Ahh, where to begin? I know! Does everyone remember all the many posts re: GPS, where one after another popped in to tell us how little GPS meant to them? I do. Including several heated arguments about the value of GPS on a tablet. Everyone must remember the classic "I don't need GPS on a tablet, I have my PHONE for that! " All the way to blasting people for being upset with Asus for a fairly major screw-up. That was the argument: Who needs GPS on a tablet? Like we who made a huge fuss were being "fussy"
Here's where us "Fussy GPS lovers " get a huge laugh, as all of a sudden, the majority of posts are "Bring it, Asus! " and "Can't WAIT TO TRY THIS! "
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I even remember Demandarin saying a few times "GPS is a dead issue, get over it." (which always got me steamed)
But now... everyone wants their dongle. Granted, there are still plenty who could give a rats ass about any of this. I am just having my moment of childish glee, and if you think thats immature, then all I have to say is:
Neah neah ne neah neah!!!
Oh, almost forgot - Where the hell is my GPS Kit? Wait, let me guess... They ran out (since all Asus needs to do is make enough to cover shipped units, and we all know Asus can't count) and now they are on backorder.
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Ahh, where to begin? I know! Does everyone remember all the many posts re: GPS, where one after another popped in to tell us how little GPS meant to them? I do. Including several heated arguments about the value of GPS on a tablet. Everyone must remember the classic "I don't need GPS on a tablet, I have my PHONE for that! " All the way to blasting people for being upset with Asus for a fairly major screw-up. That was the argument: Who needs GPS on a tablet? Like we who made a huge fuss were being "fussy"
Here's where us "Fussy GPS lovers " get a huge laugh, as all of a sudden, the majority of posts are "Bring it, Asus! " and "Can't WAIT TO TRY THIS! "
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I even remember Demandarin saying a few times "GPS is a dead issue, get over it." (which always got me steamed)
But now... everyone wants their dongle. Granted, there are still plenty who could give a rats ass about any of this. I am just having my moment of childish glee, and if you think thats immature, then all I have to say is:
Neah neah ne neah neah!!!
Oh, almost forgot - Where the hell is my GPS Kit? Wait, let me guess... They ran out (since all Asus needs to do is make enough to cover shipped units, and we all know Asus can't count) and now they are on backorder.
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lol +1
GPS is a not-issue for me. I'll continue to use my phone because my car is setup with a phone holder and everything.
I will tell you I'll take ANYTHING (within reason of course) for FREE! That is why I say Give Me, Give Me, Give Me. If Asus sold the GPS kit I would not buy it.
I'm just curious how a GPS dongle is supposed to fix all the other problems with the Prime? I think this is more of a gimmick than anything else. I believe Asus is trying to pull a fast one on us. Don't be fooled!!!
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GPS is a not-issue for me. I'll continue to use my phone because my car is setup with a phone holder and everything.
I will tell you I'll take ANYTHING (within reason of course) for FREE! That is why I say Give Me, Give Me, Give Me. If Asus sold the GPS kit I would not buy it.
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+1000
Let me add an analogy : It's as if we all bought brand new top of the line BMW's and come to find out they all have an oil leak, transmission leak, and a broken cigarette lighter. So when we took it to the shop to have it fixed, BMW gave us all a brand new add on cigarette lighter "for free!!!" to "fix" the broken one. And now you are all happy, even made a thread about it.
I love my prime, it's arguably the best tablet on the market. GPS is not the focal point of this product its so much more than a navigation tool. But Asus really should fix the wifi and reboots.
I didn't mean this post as disrespect to the OP.
WOW!!! So you are saying that I can now have TWO....TWO....dongles to play with while watching porn on my Prime.....
Awesome! Now my right hand wont be jealous of my left any more....
Life is good....get over it....lol....
GPS is a dead issue. Get over it.
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Let me add an analogy : It's as if we all bought brand new top of the line BMW's and come to find out they all have an oil leak, transmission leak, and a broken cigarette lighter. So when we took it to the shop to have it fixed, BMW gave us all a brand new add on cigarette lighter "for free!!!" to "fix" the broken one. And now you are all happy, even made a thread about it.
I love my prime, it's arguably the best tablet on the market. GPS is not the focal point of this product its so much more than a navigation tool. But Asus really should fix the wifi and reboots.
I didn't mean this post as disrespect to the OP.
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your analogy is flawed, the GPS dongle makes the prime not a prime, as it adds extra bulk to it.... your BMW gets everything FIXED, while keeping the initial structure, the prime doesnt. it needs a add-on dongle.
Mcoupe said:
WOW!!! So you are saying that I can now have TWO....TWO....dongles to play with while watching porn on my Prime.....
Awesome! Now my right hand wont be jealous of my left any more....
Life is good....get over it....lol....
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Wait why do you need GPS while watching....TV?
To be an accurate analogy BMW would take a large spoiler and add it too the front of the car, fill it with butane, make it detachable, make people stop driving to attach and remove it, and make it cover the headlights so you can't use both the lighter and headlights at the same time.
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ill1 said:
+1000
Let me add an analogy : It's as if we all bought brand new top of the line BMW's and come to find out they all have an oil leak, transmission leak, and a broken cigarette lighter. So when we took it to the shop to have it fixed, BMW gave us all a brand new add on cigarette lighter "for free!!!" to "fix" the broken one. And now you are all happy, even made a thread about it.
I love my prime, it's arguably the best tablet on the market. GPS is not the focal point of this product its so much more than a navigation tool. But Asus really should fix the wifi and reboots.
I didn't mean this post as disrespect to the OP.
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LOL!!!! So funny that you used BMW as an example. They are horrible.....horrible...when it comes to a recall.
I have owned 9 BMW's (5 of them ///M cars....4 M3's and an Mcoupe) and have club raced with the national BMW CCA, so I am very familiar with their Customer Service....lol.
My 2001 M3 took 3 years for BMW to recall and fix the main bearings......thats a big deal.
My 1995 M3 had the rear shocks push thru the sheet metal in the trunk due to a weak design. Never acknowledged by bmw.
My 2000 M coupe has a reputation for the spot welds in the trunk to start tearing.....never acknowledged.....also a BIG deal.
My 2002 bmw 325 has a problem with the subframe mounts tearing in the rear, and front shock towers showing stress cracks.....never recalled....lol
I could go on.....
That is why the Mcoupe is getting a rest this race season, and the Lotus Exige S is getting the crap run out of it....
BMW makes Asus look like mother Teresa.
I know, I know, it was just an example, but I just found it kinda funny.
Sorry......go on with the bora-phyll
GPS on the TFP was supposed to be a convenient feature similar to the fridge in this car
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The fridge didn't work...so Asus came up with this as the solution
Now we should ALL be happy?....hmmm ok ..sure.
You don't see the need for a gps/fridge in a tablet/car?great i'm happy for you. None of this should matter to YOU.
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GPS on the TFP was supposed to be a convenient feature similar to the fridge in this car
The fridge didn't work...so Asus came up with this as the solution
Now we should ALL be happy?....hmmm ok ..sure.
You don't see the need for a gps/fridge in a tablet/car?great i'm happy for you. None of this should matter to YOU.
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Even though I'm on the "GPS is unnecessary side", this post was hilarious.
Meh gps. There are more pressing software issues with the prime that need to be fixed asap.
The dongle is great and even though i dont use GPS i'd get the dongle if its free. Its just nice to have the option.
Anyways i'm good. Prime was the best purchase i made in a long time and me and my wife are having great fun with it Basically planned our whole weeding on it Its just so much more convenient sitting on a couch and handle stuff instead of being bound to a laptop/pc on a table with mouse and everthing.
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Meh gps. There are more pressing software issues with the prime that need to be fixed asap.
The dongle is great and even though i dont use GPS i'd get the dongle if its free. Its just nice to have the option.
Anyways i'm good. Prime was the best purchase i made in a long time and me and my wife are having great fun with it Basically planned our whole weeding on it Its just so much more convenient sitting on a couch and handle stuff instead of being bound to a laptop/pc on a table with mouse and everthing.
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LOL!!!! Yeah me too! If you meant "wedding" and not "weeding".....lol.
The only time I get interested in planning the wedding is when we use the Prime together. Now if we could figure a way to use the GPS during our planning , it would be a win win....
So long to the single life my friend.....i have 40 more days till its over....
Why can't we all just be happy that the issues are ironed out with or without the dongle just be happy you have a tablet thrs people out thr that would kill for a prime...with or without gps
EDIT: and honestly its threads like this that ruined xda
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Why can't we all just be happy that the issues are ironed out with or without the dongle just be happy you have a tablet thrs people out thr that would kill for a prime...with or without gps
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The above is the best post in this whole thread. Thank you.
Oh, you are in for such a bag o'hurt with this one...
But obviously, I agree with you 100%
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Why can't we all just be happy that the issues are ironed out with or without the dongle just be happy you have a tablet thrs people out thr that would kill for a prime...with or without gps
EDIT: and honestly its threads like this that ruined xda
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You know - you're aren't forced to read threads... and you'd think with a title like one this thread has - you probably should have heard loud warning bells...
Yet you read it anyway.
*Just to complain*.. just like the guy who posted the original post in it.
In other words, you're actually making his post jump to the top - making more people read it - and actually doing what you're complaining about.
Have you considered getting councilling for this clearly self-destructive psychological problem?
EDIT: I suspect most people here don't think XDA is ruined at all or in any way by one thread or even one subject. Drama Llama much?
I'm closing this thread not because I agree or disagree with you, but because the last thing this section needs is another flame fest / spam thread. Your opinion has been stated. In the future, try posting it in one of the other dozen or so GPS threads in this section.
That is all.
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I can already feel the angry masses and people saying "you started another thread......when there already are threads......."
I am supposed to get my TFP tomorrow from BB. Along the Wifi / GPS / aluminum back issues there is one fundamental one I don't understand......Didnt the engineers test this stuff out first or think to bring up the plausibility of signal distortion before advertising this stuff. Isn't there a Quality control department that could have said hey Bluetooth and wifi radios are distorted look at this?
I do not have mine yet so I hope mine is fine, but to people on both sides who want to bash my post, even Asus is now admitting an issue and that is a big deal as it then puts doubts in potential customers minds. It was funny when it was the iPhone 4 and the antennae issue but not so funny now. At least Apple attempted to do something. I hope Asus can come up with something to save its customer base. We have to have competition for the iPad.
How did all of this slip by? I mean sheesh we are paying 500.00 plus for something we are told works out of the box.
My other questions are more pessimistic. I'm not sure even if mine works fine that it is reliable for me to keep. Am I safe in opening the box and playing with it to build up courage before returning to BB?? Or should I just return with the box sealed?? Right now the only thing I wanted was the TFP. If its not ready then I'd rather have my money back. I did as much research as I could on the iPad 2 or this and made my choice I don't want to spend my money on something I feel is second best, in fact it would be more money.
Please note I had the TF 1 for 6 months, several kernels and Roms on it and was very pleased. I havnt seen a backlash like this in a long time.
Complain about my logic or paranoia, that's fine, but this is not an Apple vs. Android War.
If it is defective, then bestbuy will let you exchange it for another one of the same model.
I'm not sure what policy BB has in the US...but here in Canada, I can return most items to Best Buy for a full refund within 30 days. I have 14 days for computers and tablets. You do not need to have any reason other than it's not the one you want.
As long as you return them in the original packaging with nothing missing...you're good to use it as you wish for that period of time.
I took advantage of this policy when buying a new tv a few years ago. It was a great way to test out different models and sizes to see what I really wanted.
I just purchased the Samsung Galaxy Tab a couple days ago...I'm giving it a good test before committing to keep it. If I can get my hands on a Transformer Prime in the next little while from BB, I will give that a whirl as well.
I returned mine last week.
Best Buy has a 14 days return policy even if the box is opened as long as it is not damaged by you.
If the device is defective then you get your postage/delivery cost refunded too.
So play with it for a week to see if everything is working, if not... return it.
I returned it due to dead pixels. GPS, WFI all worked on mine and no black light bleed.
I had 2 units with dead pixels, so make sure you check for that with apps...
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I can already feel the angry masses and people saying "you started another thread......when there already are threads......."
I am supposed to get my TFP tomorrow from BB. Along the Wifi / GPS / aluminum back issues there is one fundamental one I don't understand......Didnt the engineers test this stuff out first or think to bring up the plausibility of signal distortion before advertising this stuff. Isn't there a Quality control department that could have said hey Bluetooth and wifi radios are distorted look at this?
I do not have mine yet so I hope mine is fine, but to people on both sides who want to bash my post, even Asus is now admitting an issue and that is a big deal as it then puts doubts in potential customers minds. It was funny when it was the iPhone 4 and the antennae issue but not so funny now. At least Apple attempted to do something. I hope Asus can come up with something to save its customer base. We have to have competition for the iPad.
How did all of this slip by? I mean sheesh we are paying 500.00 plus for something we are told works out of the box.
My other questions are more pessimistic. I'm not sure even if mine works fine that it is reliable for me to keep. Am I safe in opening the box and playing with it to build up courage before returning to BB?? Or should I just return with the box sealed?? Right now the only thing I wanted was the TFP. If its not ready then I'd rather have my money back. I did as much research as I could on the iPad 2 or this and made my choice I don't want to spend my money on something I feel is second best, in fact it would be more money.
Please note I had the TF 1 for 6 months, several kernels and Roms on it and was very pleased. I havnt seen a backlash like this in a long time.
Complain about my logic or paranoia, that's fine, but this is not an Apple vs. Android War.
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If I thought the gps is important feature (which I do), I wouldn't even bother going to get it or even open it up...just say you changed your mind. The chance of it working right is slim. If I knew what I know 2 weeks ago I would not have got it at gamestop. They don't seem to have a refund policy, but some people have said they got it returned and their money back. Either wait for asus to own up and fix the problem or choose another tablet. I also own the transformer, but my son broke it. I waited to get the prime to replace it, but I rather go back to the old one, but seeing how asus is....I'm not even going to get the transformer even though it was good.
My tolerance level has dropped considerably since all this stuff started. I'll probably be looking for trouble. However I've had enough tablets that if I have one of the "defective units" then it won't be hard to find. Feels like a bad dream.
Hey, another Canuck. I wish I bought mine from BB because my Canada Computers 14 days return is up on Friday. There's nothing wrong with opening and playing around with the tablet. That won't prevent you from returning it. If anything, playing with it will give you a sense of the limitations and let you figure out if the GPS really matters or not. Also, Ice Cream Sandwich comes January 12th, how could you pass on that?
P.S. In a couple weeks, you'll be hearing back from people like me that will be sending to RMA to "fix" the GPS. We need to see what they do about it.
They took my used one back no questions asked.
you haven't even gotten it yet let alone used it. you think n hope for the worst, that's what you will get. instead of assuming it'll be riddled with defects, at least test it out and have some hands on before passing judgement. guy got flamed in the other thread for this same thing really. he didn't even have device and was dismissing it on stuff he read n heard. Be your own person and test it out first with an open mind. don't just assume since you been reading all these b.s. threads that they're all true.
that was being nice Good luck on your Prime and performs out the box for you like its supposed to. Let us know your first impressions vs. all the stuff you been reading ln this forum.
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you haven't even gotten it yet let alone used it. you think n hope for the worst, that's what you will get. instead of assuming it'll be riddled with defects, at least test it out and have some hands on before passing judgement. guy got flamed in the other thread for this same thing really. he didn't even have device and was dismissing it on stuff he read n heard. Be your own person and test it out first with an open mind. don't just assume since you been reading all these b.s. threads that they're all true.
that was being nice Good luck on your Prime and performs out the box for you like its supposed to. Let us know your first impressions vs. all the stuff you been reading ln this forum.
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I agree. My wife and I really like this tablet. She gets pissed at me for even talking about GPS ("We already have that in the car why the hell do you need it on a tablet!"). Otherwise the only issue for me is the HDMI output. The amount of B.S. in this forum is unreal - it make me think peeps are doing it to deter Prime sales. It's been that bad.
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I agree. My wife and I really like this tablet. She gets pissed at me for even talking about GPS ("We already have that in the car why the hell do you need it on a tablet!"). Otherwise the only issue for me is the HDMI output. The amount of B.S. in this forum is unreal - it make me think peeps are doing it to deter Prime sales. It's been that bad.
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I agree, I use devices in their proper perspective. If I want to use a GPS (I will use a GPS), a mp3 player (I will use a mp3 player). I don't use my PS3 as a bluray player, I use it to play games. I use a bluray player to watch blurays. This is a tablet use it for what it is...and thats to replace a laptop or netbook!
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I agree, I use devices in their proper perspective. If I want to use a GPS (I will use a GPS), a mp3 player (I will use a mp3 player). I don't use my PS3 as a bluray player, I use it to play games. I use a bluray player to watch blurays. This is a tablet use it for what it is...and thats to replace a laptop or netbook!
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In our case, it replaces the old Dell Dimension desktop. The only problem is that my wife likes to print and I haven't found anything that resembles a network printer application. Anyone, anyone? Off topic, I know.
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I agree. My wife and I really like this tablet. She gets pissed at me for even talking about GPS ("We already have that in the car why the hell do you need it on a tablet!"). Otherwise the only issue for me is the HDMI output. The amount of B.S. in this forum is unreal - it make me think peeps are doing it to deter Prime sales. It's been that bad.
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yes. it has been that bad. I'm starting to think the same thing. all in all, its completely fair to want a fully functioning device since we paid for it. Aside from GPS, which I don't use anyways, My Prime has more than exceeded my expectations and all other aspects of it works flawlessly. including wifi
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In our case, it replaces the old Dell Dimension desktop. The only problem is that my wife likes to print and I haven't found anything that resembles a network printer application. Anyone, anyone? Off topic, I know.
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I use Printershare for network printing. It works pretty well with my Cannon MX860 Series. BTW, got my TP of 12/23 and been loving it ever sense. I loving hearing the oo's and aah's when I show it at work.
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In our case, it replaces the old Dell Dimension desktop. The only problem is that my wife likes to print and I haven't found anything that resembles a network printer application. Anyone, anyone? Off topic, I know.
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I've seen a few printer share apps on marketplace. can't recall the name but they are out there. just type in Printer share or something similar in marketplace and see what pops up. I'm not sure if the Print n Share app that was well received for Ipad is out for Android.
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I've seen a few printer share apps on marketplace. can't recall the name but they are out there. just type in Printer share or something similar in marketplace and see what pops up. I'm not sure if the Print n Share app that was well received for Ipad is out for Android.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm new to android market and sometimes I see apps and have to question their credibility. I don't know why. Maybe they look too much like shareware or something.
I use printer Share and really like it. You have to download a client for your desktop but it does it all including Remote Print.
You guys are right and I tried to note that I don't have the Prime yet, but this is almost anarchy lol. That's why I wanted to know if I was safe opening the package if I retun. This isn't me wanting something else, it was the TF or bust for now. So I'll post when I get it and will keep an open mind. Thanks
I got my TFP today on theorch bubble wrapped and white box. I don't know what to say after warming up and charging and installing updates, which went flawlessly.
1. Haptic feedback is barely noticeable but I kind of like it that way.
2. Screen is beautifully brought as is the device.
3. Camera is pretty crisp with nice Facebook integration.
4. Nice and lightweight.
5. Riptide game is Wow, Amazing. Graphics.
6. Screen transitions happen with no lag. Impressive.
7. Speakers are way better than the TF 101.
8. No dead pixels and just a hint of light bleed.
Not so great.
1. GPS my phone the Motorola atrix in my livingropm locks to 15 satellites within a minute. This can't find a single one.
2. The wifi signal about 25 feet away drops between 2 and 3 bars. However speed test are the same as the OG iPad.
3. Despite being ultra thin, when holding the TFP the edges hurt your sides of your hands. Kind of surprising.
4. The back is very smudge prone. Not that's a return issue.
While it is beauty and the screen is impressively bright and games speaker and camera are all pluses. Wifi, GPS are frustrating. Need some time to comtemplate.
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I agree, I use devices in their proper perspective. If I want to use a GPS (I will use a GPS), a mp3 player (I will use a mp3 player). I don't use my PS3 as a bluray player, I use it to play games. I use a bluray player to watch blurays. This is a tablet use it for what it is...and thats to replace a laptop or netbook!
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if thats the case wouldnt you use a laptop or netbook????? you have way to much money/gadgets ( feel free to donate some )
my first one was riddled with problems. i am much more confident that my second will be better now that they are in stock at some places. to me that means asus is starting to catch up on demand a little and hopefully will have better quality control. if not no. 3 here i come!
Well to me the issue with the GPS is not really that it doesn't work but more that its included in the price. So if they had just left it out to began with the prime may have been cheaper. So we pretty much paid for a GPS chip and parts for nothing.
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OK so I returned it and await a replacement. It is supposed to be here on the 12-14 just in time for ICS. I truly hope it works well in terms of WiFi as I love the device otherwise. Thanks so much for everyone's input. It was greatly appreciated. It allowed me to realize I could exchange it and not just return it. Again thanks to everyone for their input!!
Apologize for posting in the wrong area. This is a fairly extensive site and that JPG that was highlighted in red was from an area I wasn't familiar with. Again my apologies, if I had seen it I wouldn't of posted it here.
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Ok so I have till tomorrow to return my Transformer Prime to Best Buy. Then it will be 14 days since I received it from bestbuy.com.
I'm truly concerned about the many issues that have been found on this device. Yes, I know it's new and yes, I know ICS is coming the 12th.
What my concern is, is that no matter of software tweaking will fix pogosticks in the hardware, or poor antenna placement (GPS, WiFi & BT), poor case design which interferes with the GPS signal. If it was just a GPS issue I would be like whatever I have my phone for navigation and it can determine my general location well enough for apps. The WiFi issue is a big one for me. I travel. I stay in hotels. Which don't always have the best of reception or signal strength for WiFi. I'm also disappointed that the WiFi doesn't play nice with WEP (Well, at least mine doesn't). Some offices I visit only have WEP setup. It is also troublesome it doesn't have 5 gHz Wifi, but not a deal breaker. I have typically always loved and enjoyed my ASUS products. I have been using their motherboards for years.
I don't have the money to invest into another device in 5-6 months. I'm at my wits end on this. I can see the potential but the possibility of this turning into a $500 misfit from the land of broken tablets is great. I need honest opinions and input. I have been trolling this board for weeks while waiting for it to come and i have seen people both happy and not with their Prime. I truly do not know what to do. Stick it out and take whatever lumps or bring it back and wait for the next round of Tegra 3 tablets.
Thanks in advance for your input.
I have yet to receive my Prime, so I can only speak hypothetically. There will be more Tegra 3 devices out this year. There will be many many coming out, probably soon. With CES starting this week, I wouldn't doubt that there will be some coming out around March or so. That being said, you are essentially (it sounds to me) trying to convince yourself to keep it, not the other way around. If those defects are really deal breakers for you, take it back. Keep your money for now. If you can live without a tablet for a few months, then get rid of it, especially if you need something that will actually work for what you need right now. If I were in your shoes and needed the tablet's bluetooth, GPS, and WEP wifi, I would return the thing and do one of two things: wait for new items to come out this summer, or purchase a good Tegra 2 device right now with no known issues. Like I said, it sounds more like you are trying to convince yourself to keep it rather than convincing yourself to get rid of it. It is something shiny and new with amazing specs, something that is probably causing your hesitation. But there will be numerous shiny new things out this year with equally good specs or better. Just my 2 cents. Take it how you will.
EDIT: Oh, and wrong section, btw. There's a Q&A for this.
Well put Wasabi.
I also have not received my prime (pre-ordered Champange from BB on 11/29), but personally the concerns you (the OP) bring up will not be big deals for me. The GPS thing is not a deal breaker for me. I (as well as most people) do not plan on using the thing for navigation (I have my phone for that). And as far as Wifi goes, if I were in a position where I wasn't able to receive Wifi reception or the signal strength was just too weak for my needs then I would simply turn on Wifi tethering on my phone.
So if I were in your shoes, I definitely would not return the device over the concerns that you have brought up.
I love the Prime. Sure the GPS is non-existant and the WIFI is iffy, but it's a slick deal. The feel in the hands is priceless, and the performance is excellent. What if you return it and get something else in a couple of months and then that tablet also has issues? It's a revolving door with technology today. Don't like the product you have? Wait until tomorrow and there will be something better. I say stick with it. That's what I've chosen to do, and I've even committed to the dock.
Oh, and by the way. I distinctly remember that Best Buy was offering returns until the 24th of January on all tech purchased right before Christmas.
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If there is really nothing wrong with it other than known issues, sell it on eBay and make a profit. It is obvious to me from the OP that you are not really happy with it. No reason to keep it in the hopes you will start to like it.
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I am in the same boat right now. According to best buy, anything purchased between dec 13th-dec 24th qualifies for the extended return date of jan 24.
I am hoping ICS on the 12th will help with the GPS, Wifi issues. If not my prime will be going back for sure. The wifi is a BIG issue as i am in hotels a lot also, GPS is not as big but still needed for some of the apps i run so would also be a deal killer.
Reading on other units it seems that the Toshiba Thrive 10" appears to be the most trouble free with good wifi and gps, many others seem to suffer from connection issues also. So confusing at times, spec wise the Prime is killer and the price is good but severely crippled with major problems - Lets hope ICS helps.
>it seems that the Toshiba Thrive 10" appears to be the most trouble free
For me, the Prime's #1 advantage remains the integrated keyboard dock. I need something that's light with good battery life and a good screen for writing (and straight writing of draft copies; cleanup/formatting work is done on my desktop).
If the Prime weren't available, I'd go for an ultrabook (probably a Zenbook UX31) and a Kindle Fire. Long story short: if you want to use the dock, then the Prime is the only choice. If you don't care about the dock, then there will probably be better choices available in the next few months.
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So confusing at times, spec wise the Prime is killer and the price is good but severely crippled with major problems - Lets hope ICS helps.
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Hold on. The Prime is not "severely crippled". The GPS is not a component that allows the tablet to function, it's only an accessory. If the processor had an issue, say, burning up and rendering the tablet useless, I'd say that would qualify as severely crippled. And the WIFI works. No one anywhere has said that there WIFI just simply doesn't function.
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Really this is the second or third post I've seen this on today. Someone already let the OP know his "ERROR" this is like an overused tag line.
Im in the fence as well. As I said in another thread I don't want this to be the 2012 Blackberry playbook that store are dumping 6 mos from now. If the price point were lower id be more confident. But based on anything I think im keeping it. The dock will help keep it unique. A month from now if im discouraged there will still be ebay where prices stay higher longer.
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You have a TP so make your own call. Ignoring what the internet has to say, have YOU had a problem with the wi-fi reception. Or more to the point given your experience a hotels do you feel that the TP would have problems in the hotels you go to and would it be a deal breaker? If so return it. Is WEP critical for you? If so return it. Otherwise I would keep it.
The TP seems to be very close to stock so should be inline for easy upgrades. It is a risk the Asus will stop supporting it earlier thn we like but I think with the ICS upgrade we should be good for a while. I would be more worried about picking up a tablet with a heavily customized interface. They, in my experience, would be the more likely not to support android upgrades moving forward.
My TP wifi reception is on par with my Macbook air and GN so I have no complaints there. I would guess if the TP had accessing a hotel AP chances are the rest of my equipment, with the exception of my HP laptop, would also have problems.
GPS has been a bit less predictable but it is not a showstopper for me (though it is a disappointment) . If I used the TP for navigation in car I would probably invest in a stand and a external GPS puck. Again not optimal but acceptable for me.
Overall I am pleased with my purchase and the functionality it provides, especially when you include the keyboard dock. I tend not to use the dock on the go bit when I am at my desk I find myself continuing to use the TP where the xoom basically was just charging till I left my desk.
The screen is quite pleasant and a significant factor in the system. I have not used a lot of different tablets but from what I have seen the TPs screen is superior to most androietablets and on par with the ipad2.
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There is this website like 1 Sale A Day called Woot and they had refurbished Toshiba Thrives 10" the other day with 90 day warranties. Me and my friend were looking into it but I had my heart set on this one and am glad I got the Prime. I have read people with problems and have read people who love it and have no problems at all. And GPS isn't a big deal for me on the tablet but I hope wifi is good. I have a small 1BR condo and my phone does great on wifi but sometimes has a little problem getting on my works wifi but I hope this does good when I am working. I hope I get a good tablet with nothing wrong and I can't wait to get it. I did kind of like the Toshiba Thrive cause of having a USB but I can deal with not having one here and I think I may eventually get the dock now. And I know here in 5-6 months more quad core tablets will be out but I had my Archos for a year so I plan on keeping this one for a pretty long time. LOL!
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^^^^^
This.
Even when other Teg3 tablets come out (probably even the high res Asus) the most distinguishing feature of the Prime will be its keyboard dock. And that's a real important feature for quite a few people.
Ask yourself this. How important are the following features to you:
1) GPS
2) Super Strong Wi-Fi
3) An HD display
4) More RAM
5) Higher clock speed
6) Price
If 6 is important, other tablets are probably going to be more expensive. If having the latest and greatest is important to you, than other tablets will have 3, 4, and 5. If you're willing to pay more, you'll get those extra features along with 1 and 2. If the docks important you really don't have another choice. Everyone on a public forum has different needs and priorities so you're not going to get a definitive answer to your question.
For what it's worth, ever since the case issue went viral I haven't seen any price drop on the TF201. In fact it's now gone up by over $100 at Amazon and Ebay. Go figure, imo the demand is far higher than returns. If Asus comes up with a fix that works, it will bring back the doubting fans, no doubt.
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Wohooo! Luv your smile!
These threads are so LAME. I keep sitting hear reading all these complaints, undecisiveness, this or that. while I've been sitting here with my device since 12/22 enjoying it. other than GPS, mine has no issues. if so unhappy or whatever about it, just take it back end of story. wait till next device rolls around. then hope you won't be going through same ordeal against as all devices when first released has their bugs or gripes. Don't look for XDA to hold your hand and tell you everything going to be OK. Xda just tells you like it is. its completely understandable if issues affecting your device are too much for you. remember you can always exchange it also. plus people mostly commenting on wifi issues is blowing b.s. I've extensively tested my Prime against my Ipad and Atrix4g. Prime performs right on par with those as far as wifi speeds, strength, range, and stability goes.
Maybe you should read the positive transformer prime thread. where people such as your self was conicnced of this or that wrong. People reading all these posts on negative things. Then these people realized they are so glad they didn't let the negative things spread here on XDA about the Prime influence them. just take a look at all the testimonials in there..lol
Honestly. even once new devices come out, it won't be at the great value Prime is. expect them to be alot more expensive. Also whoever said March will show new devices comparable to prime out is mistaken. only device that has the best chance of being released around d that time is Ipad3. Apple has already just announced some big press conference or show coming up to announce something. More than likely ipad3 and Ipad mini.
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For what it's worth, ever since the case issue went viral I haven't seen any price drop on the TF201. In fact it's now gone up by over $100 at Amazon and Ebay. Go figure, imo the demand is far higher than returns. If Asus comes up with a fix that works, it will bring back the doubting fans, no doubt.
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Wohooo! Luv your smile!
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no since in trying to convince the nay Sayers. Prime is already a success as its constantly selling out in preorders and price even went up on it. Prime will never be the ho touchpad or blackberry fail.....lmao.
mods should just start shutting down all these threads as they pop up or at least merge them with other ones. plus its in the wrong section..lmal
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Ok so I have till tomorrow to return my Transformer Prime to Best Buy. Then it will be 14 days since I received it from bestbuy.com.
I'm truly concerned about the many issues that have been found on this device. Yes, I know it's new and yes, I know ICS is coming the 12th.
What my concern is, is that no matter of software tweaking will fix pogosticks in the hardware, or poor antenna placement (GPS, WiFi & BT), poor case design which interferes with the GPS signal. If it was just a GPS issue I would be like whatever I have my phone for navigation and it can determine my general location well enough for apps. The WiFi issue is a big one for me. I travel. I stay in hotels. Which don't always have the best of reception or signal strength for WiFi. I'm also disappointed that the WiFi doesn't play nice with WEP (Well, at least mine doesn't). Some offices I visit only have WEP setup. It is also troublesome it doesn't have 5 gHz Wifi, but not a deal breaker. I have typically always loved and enjoyed my ASUS products. I have been using their motherboards for years.
I don't have the money to invest into another device in 5-6 months. I'm at my wits end on this. I can see the potential but the possibility of this turning into a $500 misfit from the land of broken tablets is great. I need honest opinions and input. I have been trolling this board for weeks while waiting for it to come and i have seen people both happy and not with their Prime. I truly do not know what to do. Stick it out and take whatever lumps or bring it back and wait for the next round of Tegra 3 tablets.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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You have till the 24th!!! I'm returning/swapping mine out for a nonfuckedup one too. I called bb yesterday. Its some special holiday return policy.
Lady on the phone was going to overnite me one but couldn't cuz there weren't any. Wha wha
I then called some stores....gonna get some inventory on the 9th!!! I'm in socal tho...
My GPS is botched and so is my serial number. But I LOVE this thing. Should be all good on the 9th
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Only you can make the decision. If you have doubts about your happiness with it, and your purchase isn't giving you the thrill you expected, then return it. If you like it, and don't think the issues will bother you then keep it.
Those who are trying to convince you to keep it remind me of a story many years ago. I was thinking of buying an early first generation VW diesel vehicle. An old man I knew owned one. When I asked him about it he bragged and bragged about the fuel mileage and all all the advantages. I couldn't wait to buy one. Soon after I did, all kinds of problems kept appearing, making me very unhappy, and I eventually sold it at a huge loss after several months, just happy to be rid of it. When I saw him again and told him about the problems, he agreed that he also had many. When I asked him why he had bragged on it so highly. His reply was, "Son, you know misery loves company!"
I'll never forget that. His quote does seem to be true at times.
Again im really impressed with ICS and no errors for me. Im so impressed with the speed and performance.
The camera update actually made a difference to me. Panorama is nice. I got my HDMI working and wow. Im very pleased.
I had my doubts on what to do based on a lot of rough posts on here but also legit statements from Asus on the Bluetooth and GPS and Wifi with the Honeycomb normal errors.
My Wifi is great but I've decided for GPS Im going to get the Samsung Galaxy Note when it comes out. 5.3 inch screen with GPS and all the goodies. You then get the bigger screen and a built in phone. Just gotta hold out until spring.
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I wish the Samsung galaxy note was coming to Verizon .
Is this forum a blog now?
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Again im really impressed with ICS and no errors for me. Im so impressed with the speed and performance.
The camera update actually made a difference to me. Panorama is nice. I got my HDMI working and wow. Im very pleased.
I had my doubts on what to do based on a lot of rough posts on here but also legit statements from Asus on the Bluetooth and GPS and Wifi with the Honeycomb normal errors.
My Wifi is great but I've decided for GPS Im going to get the Samsung Galaxy Note when it comes out. 5.3 inch screen with GPS and all the goodies. You then get the bigger screen and a built in phone. Just gotta hold out until spring.
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Good for you I'm glad your a happy camper like me
I have a SGII for GPS(navigation) and cant believe how upset people are over it.
ICS made me happy as well
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I too made the decision to wait for a good 8 inch tablet for my car, hopefully a nexus tablet. I love this prime but i still would like to be compensated for the gps issues.
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I too made the decision to wait for a good 8 inch tablet for my car, hopefully a nexus tablet. I love this prime but i still would like to be compensated for the gps issues.
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I was thinking the same thing. Has Asus commented on that at all? I really don't care if the GPS works, but the fact that they charged this much and it's supposed to have GPS, and it's NOT going to have it...then they owe people I think.
I'm seriously thinking of returning just because I'm kind of disgusted with the whole GPS issue and now I can't tether anymore since I've updated to ICS. I'm kind of fed up.
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Is this forum a blog now?
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Jerk.
I was just trying to give others who are really struggling the prime, another option. The longer I have it, the more I love it.
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Jerk.
I was just trying to give others who are really struggling the prime, another option. The longer I have it, the more I love it.
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Except your subject is pretty damn misleading. GPS solved? How is that solved? Go buy another device is solved? When the GPS is working with the prime it is solved. When asus issue a refund for the device it is solved. Me spending more money to get GPS function is not solved.
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I was thinking the same thing. Has Asus commented on that at all? I really don't care if the GPS works, but the fact that they charged this much and it's supposed to have GPS, and it's NOT going to have it...then they owe people I think.
I'm seriously thinking of returning just because I'm kind of disgusted with the whole GPS issue and now I can't tether anymore since I've updated to ICS. I'm kind of fed up.
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I think there are many who would agree with you. I think my main question is, when people say "GPS" are they meaning specifically for navigation purposes? I think the fact that geotagging and weather updates are accurate proves that the GPS works in some form right?
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I think there are many who would agree with you. I think my main question is, when people say "GPS" are they meaning specifically for navigation purposes? I think the fact that geotagging and weather updates are accurate proves that the GPS works in some form right?
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When you log onto a wifi network, it can determine your general location from your ISP by using the IP address. It's not accurate like a true GPS. GPS works anywhere globally, hence the global positining system. If you were to be off the network it wouldn't know where you are. GPS can be use for many things...navigation being the main reason for it.
stupid thread.
even worse title.
Feel free to have it deleted. Not trying to be mean or poke fun. Dont know why people have to be asses
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I was thinking the same thing. Has Asus commented on that at all? I really don't care if the GPS works, but the fact that they charged this much and it's supposed to have GPS, and it's NOT going to have it...then they owe people I think.
I'm seriously thinking of returning just because I'm kind of disgusted with the whole GPS issue and now I can't tether anymore since I've updated to ICS. I'm kind of fed up.
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That GPS Chip had to cost money, they are not free. I am sure ASUS passed the cost of the GPS down to consumers, however, it doesn't work. You would think they would offer SOMETHING!!!
Yeah, it did cost them money, but i think they should be more concerned about future earnings that they will be loosing do to bad publicity. i know it has changed my view of them.
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Again im really impressed with ICS and no errors for me. Im so impressed with the speed and performance.
The camera update actually made a difference to me. Panorama is nice. I got my HDMI working and wow. Im very pleased.
I had my doubts on what to do based on a lot of rough posts on here but also legit statements from Asus on the Bluetooth and GPS and Wifi with the Honeycomb normal errors.
My Wifi is great but I've decided for GPS Im going to get the Samsung Galaxy Note when it comes out. 5.3 inch screen with GPS and all the goodies. You then get the bigger screen and a built in phone. Just gotta hold out until spring.
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I too made the decision to wait for a good 8 inch tablet for my car, hopefully a nexus tablet. I love this prime but i still would like to be compensated for the gps issues.
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Yeah, I am in the same boat... Even if the Prime's GPS did work, I think it would be too big to place in the car. Waiting on a 7/8 inch tablet for the car.
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I was thinking the same thing. Has Asus commented on that at all? I really don't care if the GPS works, but the fact that they charged this much and it's supposed to have GPS, and it's NOT going to have it...then they owe people I think.
I'm seriously thinking of returning just because I'm kind of disgusted with the whole GPS issue and now I can't tether anymore since I've updated to ICS. I'm kind of fed up.
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+1 on getting compensated and them owing us something for making it a selling point and then pulling that spec out from underneath us... Apple even offered covers when there reception thing came out.... Throw us a bone, Asus...
I like the ICS update and everything works better than I expected; GPS is not important for tablet since I will not put that in my car for navigation purpose, I will use my Galaxy Nexus, 4.6" screen is perfect to put on a phone holder. If you know this forum, I think you must own a Android or iphone, right?
I received an email from Asus Germany support yesterday where I had asked about switching to the TF700T, and all they offered for the broken GPS design was another 6 months of warranty. As I'm out of my 2 week return window, I've contacted the vendor to return the device as flawed or to get a partial reimbursement.
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Nope. Mine doesn't even do that.
Theres a lot of primes with GPS completely and utterly dead.
Buying a device to get around the issue is not solving but avoiding.
Greetings all,
There seems to have been alot of confusion on the Prime's status in the market. I for one can state that Best Buy has NOT fully removed it from their system, and it can still be ordered and exchanges can be made!
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This was done two days ago, and ask you can tell, the CS rep was able to locate it in their system, to send me a new one. I really love this product, and I will post this in the positive Prime thread as well.
Also, of course new models will come out. I personally would take a 201 of the 700. Why? The design is amazing. I don't use GPS unless I am on a internet connection, and I never have before. (Besides, I don't know if its just me, but Maps won't even open for me if I don't have a internet connection. It just says please connect to use Maps, and the app closes.). The Wifi and Bluetooth issues that existed has been fixed. While GPS is lackluster, at least it was included. Just look at the 183206 views of this Apple topic about no GPS in the Wifi iPad 2. (http://bit.ly/wSuep7). People were furious! Apple did "****" to announce why it was not included. At least ASUS made a public statement, said the type of metal was not giving GPS the proper performance it needed.
I believe ASUS's plan WAS to included GPS all along, and it was NOT to be used as a MAIN feature. If you caught in the middle of no where, without internet, it was your last resort. If you had an iPad, you were SOL. So thank you ASUS for including it.
Hell, if you are gonna wait for the 700, the iPad 3 will be out by then. And when it doesn't have GPS and its lacluster, here have the iPad 3.5 with a .5 more megapixals in the camera. But then CES 2013 is only a few more months away, lets wait till then. Catchin my drift? Make use of that quad core goodness you have, and feel safe that just cause a new item comes out does not render your device useless.
While I don't call this a "rant", I do hope I explained it to the best ability I can, in my view, of this whole issue. Please post your comments below, and make them constructive. I don't come to XDA to post on what the hell you think of ASUS. This is forum is for general discussion, not taking advantage of insurance exchanges, *****ing out people that are just trying to help you, etc.
I plan to use my dock, Prime, and case for my Prime for a good two years during school.
ASUS lover, and non-fanboy,
Timothy
The Champagne was completely removed from BestBuy.com (as of a week ago). The Grey one was never removed (except for a week or two back in early December if I remember correctly).
Rumour is that there won't be an iPad 3 this year, just an iPad 2.5 with enhanced screen and processor. Don't expect a ground breaking release from Apple.
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Rumour is that there won't be an iPad 3 this year, just an iPad 2.5 with enhanced screen and processor. Don't expect a ground breaking release from Apple.
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I know which panel they are using.. cough cough..
When I looked on best buy's site they didn't show any were available to order about 2 weeks ago. The CSR told me that for some reason they had plenty of stock in their warehouse but for some reason the website never showed they were available to order. Mine is coming on Tuesday according to my UPS tracking number. It is the gray version which is fine with me, I just hope it is a bug free one.
My guess is they are keeping the remaining stock as mostly replacements to the people who already have bought them. When they get the stock with the updated boxes to reflect no GPS they will start selling those in the stores.
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I know which panel they are using.. cough cough..
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Hmm, that would mean not as big of a resolution increase as some people seem to think. It would also mean that Asus is going to have a hard time keeping the TF700 in stock.
I wish I could find a champagne or grey here in Atlanta so I can get accidental coverage for my wife. Them putting back online will be cool too.
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I know which panel they are using.. cough cough..
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Ha ha...NICE!
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My guess is they are keeping the remaining stock as mostly replacements to the people who already have bought them. When they get the stock with the updated boxes to reflect no GPS they will start selling those in the stores.
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Hmm, that would mean not as big of a resolution increase as some people seem to think. It would also mean that Asus is going to have a hard time keeping the TF700 in stock.
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By the time A700 is out, they won't be the only one with 1080p screens. Acer has a prototype, so do Lenovo.
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I know which panel they are using.. cough cough..
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is really going to be the ridulous high Res. screen rumored or more closer to prime or new model tf-700?
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is really going to be the ridulous high Res. screen rumored or more closer to prime or new model tf-700?
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Rumours are of a 2048 x 1536 resolution panel. That's 50% more pixels than the Tf700. Might be out of date news though.
I work for Best Buy and in our internal inventory system, they took alot of stuff related to the Prime out of the system, like the Grey 32GB. It makes for a bad experience when someone asks me where to get one and I have the SKU and I know where to find it in the backend of the system too and it's INTENTIONALLY removed. Now I can't even look at what other stores in the district might have it. Awesome.
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By the time A700 is out, they won't be the only one with 1080p screens. Acer has a prototype, so do Lenovo.
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I meant more that Apple seems to be in bed with suppliers and if ASUS is using the same display Apple has chosen then ASUS is most likely the company that is going to have a hard time getting supplied with them.
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1080p?
I just wish that they had a replacement for me. I asked for a replacement, I really wanted a replacement. They didn't have any and she couldn't find one for me.
If I could have had my last Prime, Minus the "Serial Number Unknown" Problem, I would have been so happy. I would have taken a replacement in a minute, they just didn't have one.
Now, the problem is, I have $140 in Gift Cards at Best Buy, all gifts from the holidays, and I basically have to buy it at Best Buy cause there is nothing else there I want to spend my money on.
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I work for Best Buy and in our internal inventory system, they took alot of stuff related to the Prime out of the system, like the Grey 32GB. It makes for a bad experience when someone asks me where to get one and I have the SKU and I know where to find it in the backend of the system too and it's INTENTIONALLY removed. Now I can't even look at what other stores in the district might have it. Awesome.
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do you know if best buy finally got some cases in for the prime? last time I checked they only had ipad2, Samsung galaxy 10.1, and Toshiba thrive cases. I might have to end up ordering one online if I can't find one in a store. I ended up by a Targus netbook style case but its more of a travel pouch. I need a case to slip this into that I can leave it on it. I still find myself being extra careful as not to drop it. Any case I get would being able to go onto the prime and also fit inside the Targus netbook style case/pouch.
I'm still trying to find a keyboard dock.. maybe I'll be able to find one eventually..
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Do tell....lol! A big welcome and thanks Gary. It would be great to have ya stay around.
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demandarin said:
do you know if best buy finally got some cases in for the prime? last time I checked they only had ipad2, Samsung galaxy 10.1, and Toshiba thrive cases. I might have to end up ordering one online if I can't find one in a store. I ended up by a Targus netbook style case but its more of a travel pouch. I need a case to slip this into that I can leave it on it. I still find myself being extra careful as not to drop it. Any case I get would being able to go onto the prime and also fit inside the Targus netbook style case/pouch.
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Atleast in my store, we haven't gotten any in. You're honestly going to be better off getting it from somewhere else because of lack of inventory.
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-viperboy- said:
I work for Best Buy and in our internal inventory system, they took alot of stuff related to the Prime out of the system, like the Grey 32GB. It makes for a bad experience when someone asks me where to get one and I have the SKU and I know where to find it in the backend of the system too and it's INTENTIONALLY removed. Now I can't even look at what other stores in the district might have it. Awesome.
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When was it "removed"? It clearly was there 48 hours ago for me. lol
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When was it "removed"? It clearly was there 48 hours ago for me. lol
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In RSS or online?
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I really do not mean to brag here but I have been reading this forum a lot since I got my prime on Thursday. And I hate to hear so many people have so many issues with the device but I honestly do not have one complaint. The wifi signal does weaken where i feel it shouldn't and I have not even tried GPS (why would I? Don't need to know the exact coordinates of my living room). But these are not even close to being dealbreakers imo. Battery lasts me over a day of use. Does not get hot when charging. Minimal light bleed only visible on boot screen. No dead pixels. I mean seriously this thing is absolutley perfect for me. Just my experience of course.
BTW. On ics version .13. Rooted. C1 serial #
And the chrome beta is lightning fast for me. This morning I tethered off my infuse 4g and it was probably the most responsive browser experience I've ever had in my entire life...mobile or otherwise (not exaggerating...it was thinking for me...haha)
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Although I have had the same experience, this could have been posted in the Positive Prime thread. Much like how every complaint should be consolidated into one complaint thread.
Thanks. Just found that thread 10 secs ago. That's was a good idea btw.
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ryanbmw51 said:
I really do not mean to brag here
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You got lucky. Other's, not so much. The biggest problem with the Prime isn't that it has issues, it's that they're completely random and vary from device-to-device regardless of build date.
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I really do not mean to brag here but I have been reading this other forum a lot since I got my shiny new stainless steel, french door refrigerator. I hate to hear so many people have so many issues with the device but I honestly do not have one complaint. The ice cubes are a little small and there aren't really that many of them and I have not even tried the water dispenser (why would I? Don't need water when I have all that beer in there). But these are not even close to being dealbreakers imo. Case of cold beer lasts me over a day of use. Does not frost when running. Minimal light bleed only visible with door open. No dead pixels in temp display. I mean seriously this thing is absolutley perfect for me. Just my experience of course.
He is fully obligated to make his own thread also. All the complaint ones do it. Things about to start changing around here soon. This thread might be wwhat sparks it off. Read other thread on consolidation of complaints for details. Good working prime owners about to stsrt doing the ssame thing, which we have a right to. People want to make a new thread for every complaint. OK. Good prime owners will make one for every good thing about our tablet. Don't let it come to this. Good working primes have showed in every poll they outnumber complaint one, by a large margin. Not just a lil bit more. Don't make the Positive Transformer thread start expanding and assimilating everything that comes in sight! Lmfao. If the complaint ones can have loads of threads on same complaints, then the good working ones can have even more on what works great....lol. those will quickly push down all complaint threads. Except for sticky ones
So start consolidating complaint threads or else! Lmfao
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Good working prime owners about to stsrt doing the ssame thing, which we have a right to.
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I totally agree! Let the first person who has a good working Prime(definition is one which does everything Asus claimed in their original specs and descriptions, without any problems) be the first to start the "I have a good working Prime" thread. Just having Tegra 3 because Asus listed it in the specs does not make it a good working Prime, even if they were the first. After all, other products we buy are expected to perform as advertised or they are not considered good working.
Please remember good working does not mean some things work and some don't. That would be similar to being a little bit pregnant! Lmfao!
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I totally agree! Let the first person who has a good working Prime(definition is one which does everything Asus claimed in their original specs and descriptions, without any problems) be the first to start the "I have a good working Prime" thread. Just having Tegra 3 because Asus listed it in the specs does not make it a good working Prime, even if they were the first. After all, other products we buy are expected to perform as advertised or they are not considered good working.
Please remember good working does not mean some things work and some don't. That would be similar to being a little bit pregnant! Lmfao!
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I was more so joking but it has been suggested to me by several people through PM. Plus GPS is removed from Asus spec. That's a dead issue really. Plus working good prime means works good up to how the person sees fit. Just like a displeased person might see an issue because it doesn't works to how they see fit. So people really don't want to go there.
But along with others the trend will continue tl constantly report repeat complaint threads. No sense in having 80 .13 firmware update threads or battery ones. They will soon get shut down one by one. Seen plenty others get shut down like that. Its completely fine to have complaint threads. But not several ones on exact same thing. They could easily be merged. That's all I'm saying. Which is fair enough.
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He is fully obligated to make his own thread also. All the complaint ones do it. Things about to start changing around here soon. This thread might be wwhat sparks it off. Read other thread on consolidation of complaints for details. Good working prime owners about to stsrt doing the ssame thing, which we have a right to. People want to make a new thread for every complaint. OK. Good prime owners will make one for every good thing about our tablet. Don't let it come to this. Good working primes have showed in every poll they outnumber complaint one, by a large margin. Not just a lil bit more. Don't make the Positive Transformer thread start expanding and assimilating everything that comes in sight! Lmfao. If the complaint ones can have loads of threads on same complaints, then the good working ones can have even more on what works great....lol. those will quickly push down all complaint threads. Except for sticky ones
So start consolidating complaint threads or else! Lmfao
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I totally agree with this and may just make a thread about how much I enjoy using mine answer how it works great for what I need it to do. Then I can rehash the same things already in a few other threads, but at least it will help balance out some of this bias that appears to the sheer numbers of problem threads all covering the same thing
This is not a contest of whether lovers or haters can have more posts. The number of happy owner threads will never surpass the number of unhappy owner threads for one simple reason. The resolve of an unhappy customer is much greater than that of a happy owner.
As an example, a pissed-off customer will usually never in his lifetime deal with the company which slighted him in his opinion. But a happy customer may quickly lose his loyalty, and be drawn away, if another company offers a superior product at a much better price. Loyalty is for sale but disdain is much more enduring and has a much higher price.
A scorned woman is an excellent comparison!
Adding my voice to the happy customer pile. My Prime has been awesome. I've owned it for a week now and I don't have any complaints. The wifi signal certainly isn't as strong as my HTC EVO 3D but since I'm tethered to that more often than not it's never really been an issue.
The keyboard dock has REALLY increased the productivity potential of this device. Myself and my boss both got identical models within days of each other and have been testing the Primes in business applications while on the road. I can honestly say that I haven't missed my laptop yet.
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Clockwerks77 said:
Adding my voice to the happy customer pile. My Prime has been awesome. I've owned it for a week now and I don't have any complaints. The wifi signal certainly isn't as strong as my HTC EVO 3D but since I'm tethered to that more often than not it's never really been an issue.
The keyboard dock has REALLY increased the productivity potential of this device. Myself and my boss both got identical models within days of each other and have been testing the Primes in business applications while on the road. I can honestly say that I haven't missed my laptop yet.
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I am also happy with my prime, even with a non working gps (Non issue for me) wifi works just fine so far and it is the fastest tablet I had to date. I also got the matching keyboard dock (lucky that BB had the last one in my color ) which has made the tablet that much better for me.
i don't know about that one there are people in this thread who have turned in there primes like 6 or 7 times until they get a good working one. I think people realize the potential of this tablet and are willing to put up with the minor imperfections such as the non or so so working gps.
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This is not a contest of whether lovers or haters can have more posts. The number of happy owner threads will never surpass the number of unhappy owner threads for one simple reason. The resolve of an unhappy customer is much greater than that of a happy owner.
As an example, a pissed-off customer will usually never in his lifetime deal with the company which slighted him in his opinion. But a happy customer may quickly lose his loyalty, and be drawn away, if another company offers a superior product at a much better price. Loyalty is for sale but disdain is much more enduring and has a much higher price.
A scorned woman is an excellent comparison!
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i don't know about that one there are people in this thread who have turned in there primes like 6 or 7 times until they get a good working one. I think people realize the potential of this tablet and are willing to put up with the minor imperfections such as the non or so so working gps.
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Try 12 times...yup 12 times...I went through 12 Primes lol..how's that for determination?
I don't mind the whining and complaining threads but I absolutely can't stand these happy threads and it's not because of jealousy!
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Try 12 times...yup 12 times...I went through 12 Primes lol..how's that for determination?
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Wow.. definitely determination.. There is another guy who is on this 8th looking a 9th. Could the tables be turned significantly if we measured not by happy prime owners versus non happy prime owners, but primes kept versus primes returned?? Hmmmmm... you have 12, the other guy has 8, I have 3.5 and thats just 3 of us..
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Wow.. definitely determination.. There is another guy who is on this 8th looking a 9th. Could the tables be turned significantly if we measured not by happy prime owners versus non happy prime owners, but primes kept versus primes returned?? Hmmmmm... you have 12, the other guy has 8, I have 3.5 and thats just 3 of us..
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lol I say determination but my friends think I'm in need of an intervention. I blame myself for the whole fiasco. The first one that I bought was actually good but after reading all the posts I got "paranoid" and though my wifi was weak so I tried another. Basically 2 to 11 was really bad, bad like clumps of dead pixels, horrible light bleed and so on. At one point I actually had 6 of them laid out on the floor with each one running wifi analyzer lol...Needless to say I love the Prime and don't regret going through what I did to find the "one".
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lol I say determination but my friends think I'm in need of an intervention. I blame myself for the whole fiasco. The first one that I bought was actually good but after reading all the posts I got "paranoid" and though my wifi was weak so I tried another. Basically 2 to 11 was really bad, bad like clumps of dead pixels, horrible light bleed and so on. At one point I actually had 6 of them laid out on the floor with each one running wifi analyzer lol...Needless to say I love the Prime and don't regret going through what I did to find the "one".
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Of course who wouldn't love a prime that would meet their standards, but for some there is a long journey ahead... or luck.
BarryH_GEG said:
You got lucky. Other's, not so much. The biggest problem with the Prime isn't that it has issues, it's that they're completely random and vary from device-to-device regardless of build date.
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The other factors would be expectations and tolerance.
Prime purchaser must have those set correctly.
As OP said that his Prime wifi is weak and he accepted it. And he might ignore completely non working GPS. While other users might go mad and scream out loud.
There you go, roll your dice and be prepared to accept less and / or inferior one.
Once you do that, you are definitely a happy Prime owner.
Sure, you are entitled to brag that. That's very difficult.
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I wish I get a chance to be that determined. I want to buy from local stores but they run out of stock real quick everytime the shipments get in. Boo! Maybe I have to buy online which I prefer not to.