I really do not mean to brag here but I have been reading this forum a lot since I got my prime on Thursday. And I hate to hear so many people have so many issues with the device but I honestly do not have one complaint. The wifi signal does weaken where i feel it shouldn't and I have not even tried GPS (why would I? Don't need to know the exact coordinates of my living room). But these are not even close to being dealbreakers imo. Battery lasts me over a day of use. Does not get hot when charging. Minimal light bleed only visible on boot screen. No dead pixels. I mean seriously this thing is absolutley perfect for me. Just my experience of course.
BTW. On ics version .13. Rooted. C1 serial #
And the chrome beta is lightning fast for me. This morning I tethered off my infuse 4g and it was probably the most responsive browser experience I've ever had in my entire life...mobile or otherwise (not exaggerating...it was thinking for me...haha)
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Although I have had the same experience, this could have been posted in the Positive Prime thread. Much like how every complaint should be consolidated into one complaint thread.
Thanks. Just found that thread 10 secs ago. That's was a good idea btw.
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I really do not mean to brag here
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You got lucky. Other's, not so much. The biggest problem with the Prime isn't that it has issues, it's that they're completely random and vary from device-to-device regardless of build date.
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I really do not mean to brag here but I have been reading this other forum a lot since I got my shiny new stainless steel, french door refrigerator. I hate to hear so many people have so many issues with the device but I honestly do not have one complaint. The ice cubes are a little small and there aren't really that many of them and I have not even tried the water dispenser (why would I? Don't need water when I have all that beer in there). But these are not even close to being dealbreakers imo. Case of cold beer lasts me over a day of use. Does not frost when running. Minimal light bleed only visible with door open. No dead pixels in temp display. I mean seriously this thing is absolutley perfect for me. Just my experience of course.
He is fully obligated to make his own thread also. All the complaint ones do it. Things about to start changing around here soon. This thread might be wwhat sparks it off. Read other thread on consolidation of complaints for details. Good working prime owners about to stsrt doing the ssame thing, which we have a right to. People want to make a new thread for every complaint. OK. Good prime owners will make one for every good thing about our tablet. Don't let it come to this. Good working primes have showed in every poll they outnumber complaint one, by a large margin. Not just a lil bit more. Don't make the Positive Transformer thread start expanding and assimilating everything that comes in sight! Lmfao. If the complaint ones can have loads of threads on same complaints, then the good working ones can have even more on what works great....lol. those will quickly push down all complaint threads. Except for sticky ones
So start consolidating complaint threads or else! Lmfao
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Good working prime owners about to stsrt doing the ssame thing, which we have a right to.
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I totally agree! Let the first person who has a good working Prime(definition is one which does everything Asus claimed in their original specs and descriptions, without any problems) be the first to start the "I have a good working Prime" thread. Just having Tegra 3 because Asus listed it in the specs does not make it a good working Prime, even if they were the first. After all, other products we buy are expected to perform as advertised or they are not considered good working.
Please remember good working does not mean some things work and some don't. That would be similar to being a little bit pregnant! Lmfao!
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I totally agree! Let the first person who has a good working Prime(definition is one which does everything Asus claimed in their original specs and descriptions, without any problems) be the first to start the "I have a good working Prime" thread. Just having Tegra 3 because Asus listed it in the specs does not make it a good working Prime, even if they were the first. After all, other products we buy are expected to perform as advertised or they are not considered good working.
Please remember good working does not mean some things work and some don't. That would be similar to being a little bit pregnant! Lmfao!
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I was more so joking but it has been suggested to me by several people through PM. Plus GPS is removed from Asus spec. That's a dead issue really. Plus working good prime means works good up to how the person sees fit. Just like a displeased person might see an issue because it doesn't works to how they see fit. So people really don't want to go there.
But along with others the trend will continue tl constantly report repeat complaint threads. No sense in having 80 .13 firmware update threads or battery ones. They will soon get shut down one by one. Seen plenty others get shut down like that. Its completely fine to have complaint threads. But not several ones on exact same thing. They could easily be merged. That's all I'm saying. Which is fair enough.
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He is fully obligated to make his own thread also. All the complaint ones do it. Things about to start changing around here soon. This thread might be wwhat sparks it off. Read other thread on consolidation of complaints for details. Good working prime owners about to stsrt doing the ssame thing, which we have a right to. People want to make a new thread for every complaint. OK. Good prime owners will make one for every good thing about our tablet. Don't let it come to this. Good working primes have showed in every poll they outnumber complaint one, by a large margin. Not just a lil bit more. Don't make the Positive Transformer thread start expanding and assimilating everything that comes in sight! Lmfao. If the complaint ones can have loads of threads on same complaints, then the good working ones can have even more on what works great....lol. those will quickly push down all complaint threads. Except for sticky ones
So start consolidating complaint threads or else! Lmfao
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I totally agree with this and may just make a thread about how much I enjoy using mine answer how it works great for what I need it to do. Then I can rehash the same things already in a few other threads, but at least it will help balance out some of this bias that appears to the sheer numbers of problem threads all covering the same thing
This is not a contest of whether lovers or haters can have more posts. The number of happy owner threads will never surpass the number of unhappy owner threads for one simple reason. The resolve of an unhappy customer is much greater than that of a happy owner.
As an example, a pissed-off customer will usually never in his lifetime deal with the company which slighted him in his opinion. But a happy customer may quickly lose his loyalty, and be drawn away, if another company offers a superior product at a much better price. Loyalty is for sale but disdain is much more enduring and has a much higher price.
A scorned woman is an excellent comparison!
Adding my voice to the happy customer pile. My Prime has been awesome. I've owned it for a week now and I don't have any complaints. The wifi signal certainly isn't as strong as my HTC EVO 3D but since I'm tethered to that more often than not it's never really been an issue.
The keyboard dock has REALLY increased the productivity potential of this device. Myself and my boss both got identical models within days of each other and have been testing the Primes in business applications while on the road. I can honestly say that I haven't missed my laptop yet.
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Adding my voice to the happy customer pile. My Prime has been awesome. I've owned it for a week now and I don't have any complaints. The wifi signal certainly isn't as strong as my HTC EVO 3D but since I'm tethered to that more often than not it's never really been an issue.
The keyboard dock has REALLY increased the productivity potential of this device. Myself and my boss both got identical models within days of each other and have been testing the Primes in business applications while on the road. I can honestly say that I haven't missed my laptop yet.
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I am also happy with my prime, even with a non working gps (Non issue for me) wifi works just fine so far and it is the fastest tablet I had to date. I also got the matching keyboard dock (lucky that BB had the last one in my color ) which has made the tablet that much better for me.
i don't know about that one there are people in this thread who have turned in there primes like 6 or 7 times until they get a good working one. I think people realize the potential of this tablet and are willing to put up with the minor imperfections such as the non or so so working gps.
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This is not a contest of whether lovers or haters can have more posts. The number of happy owner threads will never surpass the number of unhappy owner threads for one simple reason. The resolve of an unhappy customer is much greater than that of a happy owner.
As an example, a pissed-off customer will usually never in his lifetime deal with the company which slighted him in his opinion. But a happy customer may quickly lose his loyalty, and be drawn away, if another company offers a superior product at a much better price. Loyalty is for sale but disdain is much more enduring and has a much higher price.
A scorned woman is an excellent comparison!
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i don't know about that one there are people in this thread who have turned in there primes like 6 or 7 times until they get a good working one. I think people realize the potential of this tablet and are willing to put up with the minor imperfections such as the non or so so working gps.
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Try 12 times...yup 12 times...I went through 12 Primes lol..how's that for determination?
I don't mind the whining and complaining threads but I absolutely can't stand these happy threads and it's not because of jealousy!
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Try 12 times...yup 12 times...I went through 12 Primes lol..how's that for determination?
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Wow.. definitely determination.. There is another guy who is on this 8th looking a 9th. Could the tables be turned significantly if we measured not by happy prime owners versus non happy prime owners, but primes kept versus primes returned?? Hmmmmm... you have 12, the other guy has 8, I have 3.5 and thats just 3 of us..
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Wow.. definitely determination.. There is another guy who is on this 8th looking a 9th. Could the tables be turned significantly if we measured not by happy prime owners versus non happy prime owners, but primes kept versus primes returned?? Hmmmmm... you have 12, the other guy has 8, I have 3.5 and thats just 3 of us..
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lol I say determination but my friends think I'm in need of an intervention. I blame myself for the whole fiasco. The first one that I bought was actually good but after reading all the posts I got "paranoid" and though my wifi was weak so I tried another. Basically 2 to 11 was really bad, bad like clumps of dead pixels, horrible light bleed and so on. At one point I actually had 6 of them laid out on the floor with each one running wifi analyzer lol...Needless to say I love the Prime and don't regret going through what I did to find the "one".
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lol I say determination but my friends think I'm in need of an intervention. I blame myself for the whole fiasco. The first one that I bought was actually good but after reading all the posts I got "paranoid" and though my wifi was weak so I tried another. Basically 2 to 11 was really bad, bad like clumps of dead pixels, horrible light bleed and so on. At one point I actually had 6 of them laid out on the floor with each one running wifi analyzer lol...Needless to say I love the Prime and don't regret going through what I did to find the "one".
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Of course who wouldn't love a prime that would meet their standards, but for some there is a long journey ahead... or luck.
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You got lucky. Other's, not so much. The biggest problem with the Prime isn't that it has issues, it's that they're completely random and vary from device-to-device regardless of build date.
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The other factors would be expectations and tolerance.
Prime purchaser must have those set correctly.
As OP said that his Prime wifi is weak and he accepted it. And he might ignore completely non working GPS. While other users might go mad and scream out loud.
There you go, roll your dice and be prepared to accept less and / or inferior one.
Once you do that, you are definitely a happy Prime owner.
Sure, you are entitled to brag that. That's very difficult.
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I wish I get a chance to be that determined. I want to buy from local stores but they run out of stock real quick everytime the shipments get in. Boo! Maybe I have to buy online which I prefer not to.
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With all the heated debate, defense and criticism, it got me thinking as to why there’s so much emotion in some of the larger threads. It all comes down to what are reasonable expectations?
People’s expectations of the Prime come from two places: 1) the pre-launch PR, hype, and reviews, and 2) a sight-unseen comparison to other previously marketed devices, both from Asus and other manufacturers.
If you have a 2011 car, and trade it in for the evolved make and model’s 2012 version, you’d reasonably expect everything to work better and some new and improved features to be included. You’d certainly be upset if things offered previously didn’t work as well in the newer car. And while you’d be thrilled with the new higher performance engine that got better gas mileage, you’d be pissed if the brakes and headlights didn’t work. That’s what Asus is facing with the Prime. Wi-Fi and GPS don’t perform as well as its predecessor the TF1. How different the performance is can continue to be debated in other open threads.
And the lower level of performance was completely unnecessary. Those defending both Asus and the Prime consider this. The decision to deploy the Prime with an aluminum back cover was needless, narcissistic, and provides no benefit. There’s no cost savings and it may actually cost more. If there’s any weight savings it’s negligible. They could have fabricated a metallic-look plastic back cover that would have looked nearly identical. Google “HTC Sensation Wi-Fi” and you’ll see that there’s clear evidence that aluminum and mobile devices don’t mix. And HTC went to much further lengths than Asus to try and make it work by incurring the added expense of installing antennas on the back cover. So, there should be no pity felt for Asus – they did this to themselves.
I’ll probably get the new Samsung 11.6 when it comes out. If GPS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and any other core features don’t work as well as the 10.1 I’ll be pissed and very vocal about having been disappointed. I’ll also think less of Samsung. I think the same would apply to anyone purchasing any upcoming tablets. Once the bar has been set, you lower it at your own risk.
So Asus deserves props for launching a fantastic leading-edge device at an incredible price for the included features – and doing it first. No matter how much you love Asus or your new Prime, it still doesn’t excuse the situation they find themselves in though self-inflicted design choices.
If they were smart, they’d start producing Prime’s with a new plastic cover design and replace the metal back cover for owners of existing Prime’s. Doing so would make it perform as well as other devices and most likely even better considering the better quality of some its components. And doing so would make at least half of the negative postings on this forum would go away overnight. They have that choice.
Rant off. Peace out.
Good stuff. Its fair enough to say what you did. As far as the aluminum back goes. People will never be satisfied. I remember here before launch people where whinning and complaining because of rumors that the back actually wasn't metal and was more of a metallic like plastic. I remember all those posts. People were pissed thinkn Asus would release this with plastic back b not metal. Well we got metal people...lol. people got what they wanted and now gripe about it. They could've easily implemented a plastic backing. But it still stands, no matter how much deductive reasoning or user testing goes, of still wasn't confirmed to be the sole reason of GPS weakness. For all we know it could be a software issue needing a new update or drivers. What's gonna happen if we receive an update and it fixes GPS. All those people who complained so much and shot down the primw should feel silly and was ro quick to jump the gun. We have only got one uodste so far and thst was on the first day i bought the device. Not worried about wifi because everything about my wifi works fine. Same strength or better than my Ipad or Atrix4g. I say give it a lil time. Still not even 2 full weeks yetsince people had this. Let a few updates roll out to see what it fixes. Instead of making assumptions without concrete proof.
The debate is so heated because you have an even larger number of people that own the prime not having issues. So its like me and lots of others buy a nice BMW thst works perfectly or satisfied with it and you get one. But yours had some defects in it. Now you want to come telling everyone and drilling down their throats how your car sux n manufacturer sux. You just sit there n complain instead of finding a solution to the problem. When you could have easily returned to the dealer to exchange it or get them to fix or address the issue. Don't try to make the rest of us that are obsolutely happy and satisfied with product and future buyers feel its not a good investment. Especially since you had a bad one. You are the minority. People with satisfactory experience is the Majority. We don't want to here the constant nagging. Just tell us what you are going to do to remedy the situation. Either exchange or get a refund. Cause no matter what, the Prime will continue to sell like hotcakes. Preorders everywhere all over the world is showing this.
Even with my GPS being questionable, The Prime has very easily more than exceeded mY expectations as far as the hype and everything goes. Very glad I decided for myself tl get it and didn't let the negatives get to me or influence my decision. BEST Tablet ever IMO. Before I got the prime I constantly tested out other tablets and owned them. Hands down, prime bests them all out at a great price point.
Bring it on! Lol
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I think you did a good job pointing out flaws but didn't talk about any of the great features of this tablet
You really need hands on time with this bad boy to feel the power behind it and you will love it. I
If you have the cash get it I don't recommend waiting for any future tablets I'm thinking they will disappointed but who knows.
That's my 1 cent not 2 because I didn't give much detail
BarryH_GEG said:
With all the heated debate, defense and criticism, it got me thinking as to why there’s so much emotion in some of the larger threads. It all comes down to what are reasonable expectations?
People’s expectations of the Prime come from two places: 1) the pre-launch PR, hype, and reviews, and 2) a sight-unseen comparison to other previously marketed devices, both from Asus and other manufacturers.
If you have a 2011 car, and trade it in for the evolved make and model’s 2012 version, you’d reasonably expect everything to work better and some new and improved features to be included. You’d certainly be upset if things offered previously didn’t work as well in the newer car. And while you’d be thrilled with the new higher performance engine that got better gas mileage, you’d be pissed if the brakes and headlights didn’t work. That’s what Asus is facing with the Prime. Wi-Fi and GPS don’t perform as well as its predecessor the TF1. How different the performance is can continue to be debated in other open threads.
And the lower level of performance was completely unnecessary. Those defending both Asus and the Prime consider this. The decision to deploy the Prime with an aluminum back cover was needless, narcissistic, and provides no benefit. There’s no cost savings and it may actually cost more. If there’s any weight savings it’s negligible. They could have fabricated a metallic-look plastic back cover that would have looked nearly identical. Google “HTC Sensation Wi-Fi” and you’ll see that there’s clear evidence that aluminum and mobile devices don’t mix. And HTC went to much further lengths than Asus to try and make it work by incurring the added expense of installing antennas on the back cover. So, there should be no pity felt for Asus – they did this to themselves.
I’ll probably get the new Samsung 11.6 when it comes out. If GPS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and any other core features don’t work as well as the 10.1 I’ll be pissed and very vocal about having been disappointed. I’ll also think less of Samsung. I think the same would apply to anyone purchasing any upcoming tablets. Once the bar has been set, you lower it at your own risk.
So Asus deserves props for launching a fantastic leading-edge device at an incredible price for the included features – and doing it first. No matter how much you love Asus or your new Prime, it still doesn’t excuse the situation they find themselves in though self-inflicted design choices.
If they were smart, they’d start producing Prime’s with a new plastic cover design and replace the metal back cover for owners of existing Prime’s. Doing so would make it perform as well as other devices and most likely even better considering the better quality of some its components. And doing so would make at least half of the negative postings on this forum would go away overnight. They have that choice.
Rant off. Peace out.
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well said, sounds fair enough to me.
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The debate is so heated because you have an even larger number of people that own the prime not having issues. So its like me and lots of others buy a nice BMW thst works perfectly or satisfied with it and you get one. But yours had some defects in it. Now you want to come telling everyone and drilling down their throats how your car sux n manufacturer sux. You just sit there n complain instead of finding a solution to the problem. When you could have easily returned to the dealer to exchange it or get them to fix or address the issue. Don't try to make the rest of us that are obsolutely happy and satisfied with product and future buyers feel its not a good investment. Especially since you had a bad one. You are the minority. People with satisfactory experience is the Majority. We don't want to here the constant nagging. Just tell us what you are going to do to remedy the situation. Either exchange or get a refund. Cause no matter what, the Prime will continue to sell like hotcakes. Preorders everywhere all over the world is showing this.
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First of all, do you have working GPS functionality? I'm glad if you have fully functional tablet.
People aren't satisfied & are complaining because they can only guess (or to some, they have released a statement.. that's another debate) the cause of the problem. If Asus makes a comment, or acknowledge the situation.. it'll be great. However, we can only assume/guess/hypothesize/complain atm....
Also, with the current Prime status, there's no guarantee that we will receive fully functional Asus Prime, nor will we get full REFUND since some retailers like Gamestop and Office Depot have crappy return policy.
Some want to fix the issue.. but as you have pointed out.. we're all just "assuming". We can't fix an issue if we don't know the real cause behind the issue... that means, we can't really REMEDY the situation even if we wanted to. Btw, when did it become our job to fix an issue that OEMs such as Asus are making?
Btw, good read Barry.
Thanks again Barry for a reasonable summation of the situation. My only argument is that I would guess that my wifi is as good as the original TF. It is as good or better than my laptop, evo 4g, and galaxy tab. Of course, I have no idea tho if that is due to a quick opening and repairing or repositioning of my antennas as it shipped. Otherwise I tend to agree with everything you say. If they can prove the metal back is the issue with my GPS I would be willing to install a redesigned back to improve it. I don't think we have enough data from people who know what they are doing to say that all primes have weaker wifi.
If the metal back is the issue why not steal apples ideas and replace the Asus logo with plastic and reroute the antennas there?
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This was the smoking gun, for me anyway...
Dear Valued Customer,
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
The ASUS Transformer Prime is made from a metallic unibody design, so the material may affect the performance of the GPS when receiving signals from satellites.
Even if in testing it performed better than in real life, why risk the loss of any performance for a clearly aesthetic choice? If they offered purchasers a choice of back cover designs, a more stylish metal option and a more practical plastic one, and warned the metal one could degrade performance, which would you choose?
I've seen millions of dollars wasted and products take lengthy delays because an initially good idea didn't become a bad one until well in to the development cycle. When that happens, you have two choices: bite the bullet and make corrections, or damn the torpedoes and push the thing out the door. Being in product marketing, management, and development sucks because of the pressure and constantly dealing with unforeseen and late-stage issues in case anyone's curious. And it doesn't pay terribly well.
To add some Texan perspective, "she sure is a pretty thang, ain't she."
Haven't really tested out my GPS yet. Never gave it more than 2 mins. Of attention because it doesn't affect my tablet performance or usage. Sure I'd love it I didn't have to worry if my GPS worked or not. Its not a deal breaker for me n most others. Truth is most don't care about it or even use. Like said before its not exactly even known what caused the issue. There are theories but no facts yet. As far as everything else with my Prime goes, works perfectly. I'm sure tons of people who haven't bought prime yet did their research. If it was so problematic it wouldn't be selling out and having back orders till the end of February. If it was so flawed, all major reviewers wouldn't of held this tablet as the best out right now. Plus more n more people coming out now saying how their device satisfies them n their happy with it. I guess its like they say one bad apple spoils the bunch. These people with issues and trolls are making the majority of prime owners, who is happy with device and performance look bad. We already have some major developers whoviwn the prime and gave impressions. Despite flaws, they still love the device and look forward to developing for it. The light will eventually shine through all the b.s. if I would've listened to forum and let it influence my decision, I would've never for the prime. Glad o could think for myself and sift through all the b.s. threads. Cuz I'm very happy and satisfied with my purchase and easily would do it all over again.
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Haven't really tested out my GPS yet. Never gave it more than 2 mins. Of attention because it doesn't affect my tablet performance or usage. Sure I'd love it I didn't have to worry if my GPS worked or not. Its not a deal breaker for me n most others. Truth is most don't care about it or even use. Like said before its not exactly even known what caused the issue. There are theories but no facts yet. As far as everything else with my Prime goes, works perfectly. I'm sure tons of people who haven't bought prime yet did their research. If it was so problematic it wouldn't be selling out and having back orders till the end of February. If it was so flawed, all major reviewers wouldn't of held this tablet as the best out right now. Plus more n more people coming out now saying how their device satisfies them n their happy with it. I guess its like they say one bad apple spoils the bunch. These people with issues and trolls are making the majority of prime owners, who is happy with device and performance look bad. We already have some major developers whoviwn the prime and gave impressions. Despite flaws, they still love the device and look forward to developing for it. The light will eventually shine through all the b.s. if I would've listened to forum and let it influence my decision, I would've never for the prime. Glad o could think for myself and sift through all the b.s. threads. Cuz I'm very happy and satisfied with my purchase and easily would do it all over again.
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As an HTC Sensation owner, I couldn't agree more.
The Sensation is known for having poor and unpredictable Wifi performance. In particular, it has a very bad case of death-grip. The GPS is also imo just ok. I was the type who was led to believe that software updates would "fix" these problems, as it was my first Android device and people made it like software updates were like the appearance of some kind of angel that would solve all your problems. The Sensation also has a horrifically poor speaker, and I believed that this too would be solved by updates.
It only took me about a month to realize that all of these problems were hardware issues. I now fully embrace the fact that the Sensation's speaker is just crappy. Some people will say stuff like "install volume+, it's so much louder!" "install a ROM with Beats Audio software!" (which only affects headphone usage and, since I'm on a headphone audiophile forum, I know is just crappy bass boosting software) and all these other band-aid software fixes that don't do anything in reality. The hardware blows and software isn't going to do anything about it.
The Wifi and GPS weaknesses on my phone are also design faults. In the early days of our forum, a lot of people were attributing these things to QC. A lot of the defensive people were saying that their device was fine and everyone else should shutup about their problems. By now, however, it's pretty much universally recognized that the aluminum build of the Sensation was ultimately a design fault that affected all Sensations' Wifi and GPS performance equally. In those early days, some people either A) wanted to ignore this shortcoming of their device, B) had lower standards than most about what constitutes "good" Wifi performance, C) ran really poor tests in order to determine the quality of their Wifi performance, or D) did some combination of the above.
I personally think choice A was part of the combination for most people. Most of the people who ignored the design faults of the Sensation made really unreasonable posts. I would watch these same people make posts in threads about competing phones say stuff like the SGS2 is a pile of s*** (SGS2 is the mortal enemy of Sensation defenders). The most noticeable characteristic of these people is that they focus on the negatives of the other device and at best downplay its positives; if they at all do that, because most of the time they completely ignore the positives. On the other hand, they focus of the positives of their own device and at best downplay its negatives; if they at all do that, because most of the time they completely ignore the negatives. It's basic pick-and-choose logic. To this day you will find people in the Sensation forum that still make the most unreasonable statements about their own device and about others.
If you want a Prime, wait until Asus can PROVE that they can fix the issue. Don't buy one right now with the assumption "a software update will fix it". Don't ever rely on something like that to fix something that history has told us is often a hardware problem. Also, I don't get why people can't admit the shortcomings of something they buy. I got my Sensation and a month later (after getting over my 1st Android device orgasm) thought "geez this thing has a ton of friggen problems and isn't that special. 7.5/10 kinda device for me. I'll make a better, more informed, less impulsive decision next time." It's OK to accept the shortcomings, live on with the device, and enjoy what you can from it still.
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Haven't really tested out my GPS yet. Never gave it more than 2 mins. Of attention because it doesn't affect my tablet performance or usage. Sure I'd love it I didn't have to worry if my GPS worked or not. Its not a deal breaker for me n most others. Truth is most don't care about it or even use. Like said before its not exactly even known what caused the issue. There are theories but no facts yet. As far as everything else with my Prime goes, works perfectly. I'm sure tons of people who haven't bought prime yet did their research. If it was so problematic it wouldn't be selling out and having back orders till the end of February. If it was so flawed, all major reviewers wouldn't of held this tablet as the best out right now. Plus more n more people coming out now saying how their device satisfies them n their happy with it. I guess its like they say one bad apple spoils the bunch. These people with issues and trolls are making the majority of prime owners, who is happy with device and performance look bad. We already have some major developers whoviwn the prime and gave impressions. Despite flaws, they still love the device and look forward to developing for it. The light will eventually shine through all the b.s. if I would've listened to forum and let it influence my decision, I would've never for the prime. Glad o could think for myself and sift through all the b.s. threads. Cuz I'm very happy and satisfied with my purchase and easily would do it all over again.
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1. Thank you for "assuming" or thinking for "many others" that GPS functionality isn't a deal breaker or don't use it. Why are you making assumptions when you are calling the "complainers" out for making assumptions?
2. GPS is listed & was listed function of Asus Prime. You are sick of us making assumptions ... Is it that hard for Asus to clarify the issue to end the assumption? Better yet, are we really at fault for asking one simple CLARIFICATION? Don't we have the right to know since we paid $500 based on listed specification?
3. The reviews are based on early prototype. Heck, some tech websites such as Cnet & Anandtech did have complaints on certain aspect of the Prime. Oh, did I mention that they were on time constraint for the review from Asus.. thus, they did not have adequate time?
4. Sold out & back-ordered because Asus did a terrible job with the launch. Did that ever configure into your thought?
5. Do you work for Asus? Really, if you are happy with your Prime.. I'm REALLY glad for you. But to others who paid $500, and were expecting GPS functionality.. they absolutely have the right to complain & troll until they hear an answer. To other potential Prime purchasers & who are doing their own research.. THINK FOR YOURSELF. Better yet, I'm sure you can think for yourself.. I really don't get why Demandrin is so worried about the "image" of Transformer Prime. As Barry & other tech websites have pointed out, it's a good device.. but if you have certain expectations and IT DOES NOT MEET it.. DO NOT PURCHASE IT.
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As an HTC Sensation owner, I couldn't agree more.
The Sensation is known for having poor and unpredictable Wifi performance. In particular, it has a very bad case of death-grip. The GPS is also imo just ok. I was the type who was led to believe that software updates would "fix" these problems, as it was my first Android device and people made it like software updates were like the appearance of some kind of angel that would solve all your problems. The Sensation also has a horrifically poor speaker, and I believed that this too would be solved by updates.
It only took me about a month to realize that all of these problems were hardware issues. I now fully embrace the fact that the Sensation's speaker is just crappy. Some people will say stuff like "install volume+, it's so much louder!" "install a ROM with Beats Audio software!" (which only affects headphone usage and, since I'm on a headphone audiophile forum, I know is just crappy bass boosting software) and all these other band-aid software fixes that don't do anything in reality. The hardware blows and software isn't going to do anything about it.
The Wifi and GPS weaknesses on my phone are also design faults. In the early days of our forum, a lot of people were attributing these things to QC. A lot of the defensive people were saying that their device was fine and everyone else should shutup about their problems. By now, however, it's pretty much universally recognized that the aluminum build of the Sensation was ultimately a design fault that affected all Sensations' Wifi and GPS performance equally. In those early days, some people either A) wanted to ignore this shortcoming of their device, B) had lower standards than most about what constitutes "good" Wifi performance, C) ran really poor tests in order to determine the quality of their Wifi performance, or D) did some combination of the above.
I personally think choice A was part of the combination for most people. Most of the people who ignored the design faults of the Sensation made really unreasonable posts. I would watch these same people make posts in threads about competing phones say stuff like the SGS2 is a pile of s*** (SGS2 is the mortal enemy of Sensation defenders). The most noticeable characteristic of these people is that they focus on the negatives of the other device and at best downplay its positives; if they at all do that, because most of the time they completely ignore the positives. On the other hand, they focus of the positives of their own device and at best downplay its negatives; if they at all do that, because most of the time they completely ignore the negatives. It's basic pick-and-choose logic. To this day you will find people in the Sensation forum that still make the most unreasonable statements about their own device and about others.
If you want a Prime, wait until Asus can PROVE that they can fix the issue. Don't buy one right now with the assumption "a software update will fix it". Don't ever rely on something like that to fix something that history has told us is often a hardware problem. Also, I don't get why people can't admit the shortcomings of something they buy. I got my Sensation and a month later (after getting over my 1st Android device orgasm) thought "geez this thing has a ton of friggen problems and isn't that special. 7.5/10 kinda device for me. I'll make a better, more informed, less impulsive decision next time."
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Great point. But the flipside to it is that these issues aren't affecting everyone. More than half the prime owners here already polled and commented what these threads post about is not the case with them. Yes Asus does need better QC. YES Asus needs to address the issues "SOME" users are experiencing. But to downplay or assume just because your damn device isn't working right, everyone else's isn't also. Or try to rationlaize n be like well they didn't rub the test right. Some people are just looking and hoping others have issues. That's all I'm saying. Just because your sh#& doesn't work right, don't assume everyone else's is the same. Because for the majority of prime owners it isn't. Like I said before, I did the research on Prime and very satisfied with purchase. GPS on my is not important to me or majority of users. So no reason really to wait to buy one. Wait just because a minute/small numerous of people have issues? Come on now...obviously the consumer isn't buying it and can think for themselves because device still selling like crazy and preorders backed up.
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How did the polls prove the opposite? Is this a glass half full vs. half empty kind of thing?
Because I seem to recall the polls showing over 50% were less then satisfied.
Yes people complain easier then praise, but even then it would reflect an easy 10% of the userbase being unhappy.
Though its true there seems to be a lot of fearmongering, you cant simply deny the faults that surfaced.
Here's the thing. GPS functionality in Asus Transformer Prime is a PROBLEM (at least for me). Do I want a solution, or find a solution? I sure do.. but since Asus won't clarify & acknowledge the issue, myself and other "complainers" can only guess & *****.
If you bought Transformer Prime through Gamestop & Office Depot.. at least according to their crappy return policy, you cannot get a FULL REFUND if the box is opened. Can only be exchanged with same item... but with current Transformer status.. it's difficult to get an exchange, & aren't guaranteed of Prime with properly working GPS.
And I don't get how it is a dead issue.
I have until February to return mine, so I'm not too concerned. I didn't get what I paid for, it may or may not be a deal breaker by then, I have until then to figure it out. The only reason I'm not complaining too loudly is because I am in charge of my own own destiny with this tablet plus I'm pretty sure Asus will get this fixed, even if it means they slap different backs on these suckers and delay putting them on the shelves.
I bought into this knowing and willing to go through some growing pains with new technology in a tablet. I wasn't expecting a problem with old technology, but I'll be patient. Til I get closer to my BBRewar Zone Premium Silver deadline.
Oh - and yea, no way I return/exchange now for another unit with GPS problems
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How did the polls prove the opposite? Is this a glass half full vs. half empty kind of thing?
Because I seem to recall the polls showing over 50% were less then satisfied.
Yes people complain easier then praise, but even then it would reflect an easy 10% of the userbase being unhappy.
Though its true there seems to be a lot of fearmongering, you cant simply deny the faults that surfaced.
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you guys are doing it wrong. If you have a faulty Transformer Prime instead moping around here trolling, you should be using that time being in contact with ASUS or the retailer you bought the product from and work with them on getting a replacement. How on Earth are you guys are going to troll us who are either anxiously awaiting the arrival of our Prime tablet or have a fault-free Prime tabet?
how trolling us going to even work?
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it will be much easier for us to turn the tables on you and backfire your troll thread.
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lmao, your Transformer flopped. Sucks to be you.
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raped.
oh yes it's very simple.
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Man I'm loving your post. it's classic. that was all I was basically trying to say.
-to the guy that say as he recalled polls showed more than 50% dissatisfied, your recallation is wrong. polls showed more than that satisfied. there was a thread and poll on GPS. polls showed more than 60% had no issues and satisfied. same thing with the wifi thread and poll that primetimebro made. majority of users, over 70% last time o looked, said they had no issue n wifi worked fine. then another thread on are you satisfied with prime or do you have issues. majority of those polled no issues and happy with prime. now more n more threads popping up of people enjoying device and they saying they glad they didn't feed into negativity.
demandarin said:
Great point. But the flipside to it is that these issues aren't affecting everyone. More than half the prime owners here already polled and commented what these threads post about is not the case with them. Yes Asus does need better QC. YES Asus needs to address the issues "SOME" users are experiencing. But to downplay or assume just because your damn device isn't working right, everyone else's isn't also. Or try to rationlaize n be like well they didn't rub the test right. Some people are just looking and hoping others have issues. That's all I'm saying. Just because your sh#& doesn't work right, don't assume everyone else's is the same. Because for the majority of prime owners it isn't. Like I said before, I did the research on Prime and very satisfied with purchase. GPS on my is not important to me or majority of users. So no reason really to wait to buy one. Wait just because a minute/small numerous of people have issues? Come on now...obviously the consumer isn't buying it and can think for themselves because device still selling like crazy and preorders backed up.
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1) I'm not saying that all devices have these problems, and neither are a lot of other "complainers". I'm also not "hoping" people will have issues.
2) You don't know whether or not the majority of owners are experiencing problems. No one knows what the actual statistics are. And before you reference a poll on a forum, I suggest you take a course in statistics to know how bad and unrepresentative those are. You're saying what you want the case to be, not necessarily what it actually is (which no one knows).
3) It doesn't take a majority to make a problem serious. 35% experiencing the issue can be considered a serious problem, and other non-majority percentages can also be great enough to constitute a "serious" problem. For a lot of products, in fact, a fairly "low" percentage actually constitutes a serious failure rate.
4) The consumer isn't "buying it" (believing these issues exist) because the VAST majority of people who will buy the Prime aren't on XDA and consequently don't know anything about them before buying it.
5) Being concerned about this device is fully based on sound reasoning. I can read through this forum and determine based on the quantity and type of comments made what is likely going on. And what is going on is very similar to the design faults I have experienced with my HTC Sensation. That is why I believe there is a serious enough chance that the Prime's issues boil down to design faults to throw up the yellow flag (caution flag in auto racing) for potential buyers. I can sort out what is probably QC versus design faults, and imo it is reasonable to suggest that poor Wifi and GPS are probably the consequence of design faults, while issues that are less reported like dead pixels are probably QC issues that fewer people have. What's ultimately "unreasonable" is to have such evidence of a possible serious issue and to not tell potential buyers about those problems. If you have a Prime that has good Wifi and GPS performance, good for you. But YOU are the one who is being misleading if you tell potential buyers that there are no issues whatsoever. What you SHOULD be saying is "Hey, I like my Prime, it works perfectly for me, but there are a lot of people with Wifi and GPS issues, so I would be careful if I were you and go into this decision knowing something like that might happen". The truth is, YOU are the one who is ascribing YOUR personal situation to ALL Prime's, and consequently YOU are one of the most misleading posters out there right now.
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1) I'm not saying that all devices have these problems, and neither are a lot of other "complainers". I'm also not "hoping" people will have issues.
2) You don't know whether or not the majority of owners are experiencing problems. No one knows what the actual statistics are. And before you reference a poll on a forum, I suggest you take a course in statistics to know how bad and unrepresentative those are. You're saying what you want the case to be, not necessarily what it actually is (which no one knows).
3) It doesn't take a majority to make a problem serious. 35% experiencing the issue can be considered a serious problem, and other non-majority percentages can also be great enough to constitute a "serious" problem. For a lot of products, in fact, a fairly "low" percentage actually constitutes a serious failure rate.
4) The consumer isn't "buying it" (believing these issues exist) because the VAST majority of people who will buy the Prime aren't on XDA and consequently don't know anything about them before buying it.
5) Being concerned about this device is fully based on sound reasoning. I can read through this forum and determine based on the quantity and type of comments made what is likely going on. And what is going on is very similar to the design faults I have experienced with my HTC Sensation. That is why I believe there is a serious enough chance that the Prime's issues boil down to design faults to throw up the yellow flag (caution flag in auto racing) for potential buyers. I can sort out what is probably QC versus design faults, and imo it is reasonable to suggest that poor Wifi and GPS are probably the consequence of design faults, while issues that are less reported like dead pixels are probably QC issues that fewer people have. What's ultimately "unreasonable" is to have such evidence of a possible serious issue and to not tell potential buyers about those problems. If you have a Prime that has good Wifi and GPS performance, good for you. But YOU are the one who is being misleading if you tell potential buyers that there are no issues whatsoever. What you SHOULD be saying is "Hey, I like my Prime, it works perfectly for me, but there are a lot of people with Wifi and GPS issues, so I would be careful if I were you and go into this decision knowing something like that might happen". The truth is, YOU are the one who is ascribing YOUR personal situation to ALL Prime's, and consequently YOU are one of the most misleading posters out there right now.
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Actually for your second to last sentence, I have. I've never said no one has nothing tl worry about as I know there are issues out there. I'm talking about when the various same people go on saying don't get the device because theirs is faulty and that more than likely the new owner will experience same issues. So when they come saying that in threads, I interject my experience with device. Period
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One thing you guys all need to remember is, the VAST majority of people buying tablets have no ****ing clue what XDA is. They do not have hundreds, or thousands of posts in tech forums. 60% satisfaction, or dissatisfaction, or whatever means pretty much nothing on this forum. Lets say that Asus ends up selling 2 million of these things (Random number). How many of those 2 million are going to be on XDA complaining about their tablets? Hundreds. You all need to realize that any poll done on this site has such a small sample of data that it is virtually ****.
So, can you list the "ppl" who are telling ppl not to get the device? Or are these based on assumptions as well? Or does "complaining" or sharing info on defective GPS constitutes as telling ppl not to purchase the device? Is GPS not considered a problem since it means nothing to you? Do we have to follow your act and just "let it slide"?
If you are happy with it, and do not consider your Prime to be defective.. FINE. But we do not work for Asus, nor should we care for "potential" Prime purchasers. Each person should do their own research (if they are on this forum), read the forum/threads as they fit, and decide on their OWN. I really don't get this... "complain less or ignore your minor issues so we can keep the image of PRIME prestigious" attitude.
I can already feel the angry masses and people saying "you started another thread......when there already are threads......."
I am supposed to get my TFP tomorrow from BB. Along the Wifi / GPS / aluminum back issues there is one fundamental one I don't understand......Didnt the engineers test this stuff out first or think to bring up the plausibility of signal distortion before advertising this stuff. Isn't there a Quality control department that could have said hey Bluetooth and wifi radios are distorted look at this?
I do not have mine yet so I hope mine is fine, but to people on both sides who want to bash my post, even Asus is now admitting an issue and that is a big deal as it then puts doubts in potential customers minds. It was funny when it was the iPhone 4 and the antennae issue but not so funny now. At least Apple attempted to do something. I hope Asus can come up with something to save its customer base. We have to have competition for the iPad.
How did all of this slip by? I mean sheesh we are paying 500.00 plus for something we are told works out of the box.
My other questions are more pessimistic. I'm not sure even if mine works fine that it is reliable for me to keep. Am I safe in opening the box and playing with it to build up courage before returning to BB?? Or should I just return with the box sealed?? Right now the only thing I wanted was the TFP. If its not ready then I'd rather have my money back. I did as much research as I could on the iPad 2 or this and made my choice I don't want to spend my money on something I feel is second best, in fact it would be more money.
Please note I had the TF 1 for 6 months, several kernels and Roms on it and was very pleased. I havnt seen a backlash like this in a long time.
Complain about my logic or paranoia, that's fine, but this is not an Apple vs. Android War.
If it is defective, then bestbuy will let you exchange it for another one of the same model.
I'm not sure what policy BB has in the US...but here in Canada, I can return most items to Best Buy for a full refund within 30 days. I have 14 days for computers and tablets. You do not need to have any reason other than it's not the one you want.
As long as you return them in the original packaging with nothing missing...you're good to use it as you wish for that period of time.
I took advantage of this policy when buying a new tv a few years ago. It was a great way to test out different models and sizes to see what I really wanted.
I just purchased the Samsung Galaxy Tab a couple days ago...I'm giving it a good test before committing to keep it. If I can get my hands on a Transformer Prime in the next little while from BB, I will give that a whirl as well.
I returned mine last week.
Best Buy has a 14 days return policy even if the box is opened as long as it is not damaged by you.
If the device is defective then you get your postage/delivery cost refunded too.
So play with it for a week to see if everything is working, if not... return it.
I returned it due to dead pixels. GPS, WFI all worked on mine and no black light bleed.
I had 2 units with dead pixels, so make sure you check for that with apps...
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I can already feel the angry masses and people saying "you started another thread......when there already are threads......."
I am supposed to get my TFP tomorrow from BB. Along the Wifi / GPS / aluminum back issues there is one fundamental one I don't understand......Didnt the engineers test this stuff out first or think to bring up the plausibility of signal distortion before advertising this stuff. Isn't there a Quality control department that could have said hey Bluetooth and wifi radios are distorted look at this?
I do not have mine yet so I hope mine is fine, but to people on both sides who want to bash my post, even Asus is now admitting an issue and that is a big deal as it then puts doubts in potential customers minds. It was funny when it was the iPhone 4 and the antennae issue but not so funny now. At least Apple attempted to do something. I hope Asus can come up with something to save its customer base. We have to have competition for the iPad.
How did all of this slip by? I mean sheesh we are paying 500.00 plus for something we are told works out of the box.
My other questions are more pessimistic. I'm not sure even if mine works fine that it is reliable for me to keep. Am I safe in opening the box and playing with it to build up courage before returning to BB?? Or should I just return with the box sealed?? Right now the only thing I wanted was the TFP. If its not ready then I'd rather have my money back. I did as much research as I could on the iPad 2 or this and made my choice I don't want to spend my money on something I feel is second best, in fact it would be more money.
Please note I had the TF 1 for 6 months, several kernels and Roms on it and was very pleased. I havnt seen a backlash like this in a long time.
Complain about my logic or paranoia, that's fine, but this is not an Apple vs. Android War.
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If I thought the gps is important feature (which I do), I wouldn't even bother going to get it or even open it up...just say you changed your mind. The chance of it working right is slim. If I knew what I know 2 weeks ago I would not have got it at gamestop. They don't seem to have a refund policy, but some people have said they got it returned and their money back. Either wait for asus to own up and fix the problem or choose another tablet. I also own the transformer, but my son broke it. I waited to get the prime to replace it, but I rather go back to the old one, but seeing how asus is....I'm not even going to get the transformer even though it was good.
My tolerance level has dropped considerably since all this stuff started. I'll probably be looking for trouble. However I've had enough tablets that if I have one of the "defective units" then it won't be hard to find. Feels like a bad dream.
Hey, another Canuck. I wish I bought mine from BB because my Canada Computers 14 days return is up on Friday. There's nothing wrong with opening and playing around with the tablet. That won't prevent you from returning it. If anything, playing with it will give you a sense of the limitations and let you figure out if the GPS really matters or not. Also, Ice Cream Sandwich comes January 12th, how could you pass on that?
P.S. In a couple weeks, you'll be hearing back from people like me that will be sending to RMA to "fix" the GPS. We need to see what they do about it.
They took my used one back no questions asked.
you haven't even gotten it yet let alone used it. you think n hope for the worst, that's what you will get. instead of assuming it'll be riddled with defects, at least test it out and have some hands on before passing judgement. guy got flamed in the other thread for this same thing really. he didn't even have device and was dismissing it on stuff he read n heard. Be your own person and test it out first with an open mind. don't just assume since you been reading all these b.s. threads that they're all true.
that was being nice Good luck on your Prime and performs out the box for you like its supposed to. Let us know your first impressions vs. all the stuff you been reading ln this forum.
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you haven't even gotten it yet let alone used it. you think n hope for the worst, that's what you will get. instead of assuming it'll be riddled with defects, at least test it out and have some hands on before passing judgement. guy got flamed in the other thread for this same thing really. he didn't even have device and was dismissing it on stuff he read n heard. Be your own person and test it out first with an open mind. don't just assume since you been reading all these b.s. threads that they're all true.
that was being nice Good luck on your Prime and performs out the box for you like its supposed to. Let us know your first impressions vs. all the stuff you been reading ln this forum.
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I agree. My wife and I really like this tablet. She gets pissed at me for even talking about GPS ("We already have that in the car why the hell do you need it on a tablet!"). Otherwise the only issue for me is the HDMI output. The amount of B.S. in this forum is unreal - it make me think peeps are doing it to deter Prime sales. It's been that bad.
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I agree. My wife and I really like this tablet. She gets pissed at me for even talking about GPS ("We already have that in the car why the hell do you need it on a tablet!"). Otherwise the only issue for me is the HDMI output. The amount of B.S. in this forum is unreal - it make me think peeps are doing it to deter Prime sales. It's been that bad.
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I agree, I use devices in their proper perspective. If I want to use a GPS (I will use a GPS), a mp3 player (I will use a mp3 player). I don't use my PS3 as a bluray player, I use it to play games. I use a bluray player to watch blurays. This is a tablet use it for what it is...and thats to replace a laptop or netbook!
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I agree, I use devices in their proper perspective. If I want to use a GPS (I will use a GPS), a mp3 player (I will use a mp3 player). I don't use my PS3 as a bluray player, I use it to play games. I use a bluray player to watch blurays. This is a tablet use it for what it is...and thats to replace a laptop or netbook!
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In our case, it replaces the old Dell Dimension desktop. The only problem is that my wife likes to print and I haven't found anything that resembles a network printer application. Anyone, anyone? Off topic, I know.
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I agree. My wife and I really like this tablet. She gets pissed at me for even talking about GPS ("We already have that in the car why the hell do you need it on a tablet!"). Otherwise the only issue for me is the HDMI output. The amount of B.S. in this forum is unreal - it make me think peeps are doing it to deter Prime sales. It's been that bad.
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yes. it has been that bad. I'm starting to think the same thing. all in all, its completely fair to want a fully functioning device since we paid for it. Aside from GPS, which I don't use anyways, My Prime has more than exceeded my expectations and all other aspects of it works flawlessly. including wifi
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In our case, it replaces the old Dell Dimension desktop. The only problem is that my wife likes to print and I haven't found anything that resembles a network printer application. Anyone, anyone? Off topic, I know.
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I use Printershare for network printing. It works pretty well with my Cannon MX860 Series. BTW, got my TP of 12/23 and been loving it ever sense. I loving hearing the oo's and aah's when I show it at work.
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In our case, it replaces the old Dell Dimension desktop. The only problem is that my wife likes to print and I haven't found anything that resembles a network printer application. Anyone, anyone? Off topic, I know.
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I've seen a few printer share apps on marketplace. can't recall the name but they are out there. just type in Printer share or something similar in marketplace and see what pops up. I'm not sure if the Print n Share app that was well received for Ipad is out for Android.
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I've seen a few printer share apps on marketplace. can't recall the name but they are out there. just type in Printer share or something similar in marketplace and see what pops up. I'm not sure if the Print n Share app that was well received for Ipad is out for Android.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm new to android market and sometimes I see apps and have to question their credibility. I don't know why. Maybe they look too much like shareware or something.
I use printer Share and really like it. You have to download a client for your desktop but it does it all including Remote Print.
You guys are right and I tried to note that I don't have the Prime yet, but this is almost anarchy lol. That's why I wanted to know if I was safe opening the package if I retun. This isn't me wanting something else, it was the TF or bust for now. So I'll post when I get it and will keep an open mind. Thanks
I got my TFP today on theorch bubble wrapped and white box. I don't know what to say after warming up and charging and installing updates, which went flawlessly.
1. Haptic feedback is barely noticeable but I kind of like it that way.
2. Screen is beautifully brought as is the device.
3. Camera is pretty crisp with nice Facebook integration.
4. Nice and lightweight.
5. Riptide game is Wow, Amazing. Graphics.
6. Screen transitions happen with no lag. Impressive.
7. Speakers are way better than the TF 101.
8. No dead pixels and just a hint of light bleed.
Not so great.
1. GPS my phone the Motorola atrix in my livingropm locks to 15 satellites within a minute. This can't find a single one.
2. The wifi signal about 25 feet away drops between 2 and 3 bars. However speed test are the same as the OG iPad.
3. Despite being ultra thin, when holding the TFP the edges hurt your sides of your hands. Kind of surprising.
4. The back is very smudge prone. Not that's a return issue.
While it is beauty and the screen is impressively bright and games speaker and camera are all pluses. Wifi, GPS are frustrating. Need some time to comtemplate.
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I agree, I use devices in their proper perspective. If I want to use a GPS (I will use a GPS), a mp3 player (I will use a mp3 player). I don't use my PS3 as a bluray player, I use it to play games. I use a bluray player to watch blurays. This is a tablet use it for what it is...and thats to replace a laptop or netbook!
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if thats the case wouldnt you use a laptop or netbook????? you have way to much money/gadgets ( feel free to donate some )
my first one was riddled with problems. i am much more confident that my second will be better now that they are in stock at some places. to me that means asus is starting to catch up on demand a little and hopefully will have better quality control. if not no. 3 here i come!
Well to me the issue with the GPS is not really that it doesn't work but more that its included in the price. So if they had just left it out to began with the prime may have been cheaper. So we pretty much paid for a GPS chip and parts for nothing.
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OK so I returned it and await a replacement. It is supposed to be here on the 12-14 just in time for ICS. I truly hope it works well in terms of WiFi as I love the device otherwise. Thanks so much for everyone's input. It was greatly appreciated. It allowed me to realize I could exchange it and not just return it. Again thanks to everyone for their input!!
Apologize for posting in the wrong area. This is a fairly extensive site and that JPG that was highlighted in red was from an area I wasn't familiar with. Again my apologies, if I had seen it I wouldn't of posted it here.
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Ok so I have till tomorrow to return my Transformer Prime to Best Buy. Then it will be 14 days since I received it from bestbuy.com.
I'm truly concerned about the many issues that have been found on this device. Yes, I know it's new and yes, I know ICS is coming the 12th.
What my concern is, is that no matter of software tweaking will fix pogosticks in the hardware, or poor antenna placement (GPS, WiFi & BT), poor case design which interferes with the GPS signal. If it was just a GPS issue I would be like whatever I have my phone for navigation and it can determine my general location well enough for apps. The WiFi issue is a big one for me. I travel. I stay in hotels. Which don't always have the best of reception or signal strength for WiFi. I'm also disappointed that the WiFi doesn't play nice with WEP (Well, at least mine doesn't). Some offices I visit only have WEP setup. It is also troublesome it doesn't have 5 gHz Wifi, but not a deal breaker. I have typically always loved and enjoyed my ASUS products. I have been using their motherboards for years.
I don't have the money to invest into another device in 5-6 months. I'm at my wits end on this. I can see the potential but the possibility of this turning into a $500 misfit from the land of broken tablets is great. I need honest opinions and input. I have been trolling this board for weeks while waiting for it to come and i have seen people both happy and not with their Prime. I truly do not know what to do. Stick it out and take whatever lumps or bring it back and wait for the next round of Tegra 3 tablets.
Thanks in advance for your input.
I have yet to receive my Prime, so I can only speak hypothetically. There will be more Tegra 3 devices out this year. There will be many many coming out, probably soon. With CES starting this week, I wouldn't doubt that there will be some coming out around March or so. That being said, you are essentially (it sounds to me) trying to convince yourself to keep it, not the other way around. If those defects are really deal breakers for you, take it back. Keep your money for now. If you can live without a tablet for a few months, then get rid of it, especially if you need something that will actually work for what you need right now. If I were in your shoes and needed the tablet's bluetooth, GPS, and WEP wifi, I would return the thing and do one of two things: wait for new items to come out this summer, or purchase a good Tegra 2 device right now with no known issues. Like I said, it sounds more like you are trying to convince yourself to keep it rather than convincing yourself to get rid of it. It is something shiny and new with amazing specs, something that is probably causing your hesitation. But there will be numerous shiny new things out this year with equally good specs or better. Just my 2 cents. Take it how you will.
EDIT: Oh, and wrong section, btw. There's a Q&A for this.
Well put Wasabi.
I also have not received my prime (pre-ordered Champange from BB on 11/29), but personally the concerns you (the OP) bring up will not be big deals for me. The GPS thing is not a deal breaker for me. I (as well as most people) do not plan on using the thing for navigation (I have my phone for that). And as far as Wifi goes, if I were in a position where I wasn't able to receive Wifi reception or the signal strength was just too weak for my needs then I would simply turn on Wifi tethering on my phone.
So if I were in your shoes, I definitely would not return the device over the concerns that you have brought up.
I love the Prime. Sure the GPS is non-existant and the WIFI is iffy, but it's a slick deal. The feel in the hands is priceless, and the performance is excellent. What if you return it and get something else in a couple of months and then that tablet also has issues? It's a revolving door with technology today. Don't like the product you have? Wait until tomorrow and there will be something better. I say stick with it. That's what I've chosen to do, and I've even committed to the dock.
Oh, and by the way. I distinctly remember that Best Buy was offering returns until the 24th of January on all tech purchased right before Christmas.
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If there is really nothing wrong with it other than known issues, sell it on eBay and make a profit. It is obvious to me from the OP that you are not really happy with it. No reason to keep it in the hopes you will start to like it.
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I am in the same boat right now. According to best buy, anything purchased between dec 13th-dec 24th qualifies for the extended return date of jan 24.
I am hoping ICS on the 12th will help with the GPS, Wifi issues. If not my prime will be going back for sure. The wifi is a BIG issue as i am in hotels a lot also, GPS is not as big but still needed for some of the apps i run so would also be a deal killer.
Reading on other units it seems that the Toshiba Thrive 10" appears to be the most trouble free with good wifi and gps, many others seem to suffer from connection issues also. So confusing at times, spec wise the Prime is killer and the price is good but severely crippled with major problems - Lets hope ICS helps.
>it seems that the Toshiba Thrive 10" appears to be the most trouble free
For me, the Prime's #1 advantage remains the integrated keyboard dock. I need something that's light with good battery life and a good screen for writing (and straight writing of draft copies; cleanup/formatting work is done on my desktop).
If the Prime weren't available, I'd go for an ultrabook (probably a Zenbook UX31) and a Kindle Fire. Long story short: if you want to use the dock, then the Prime is the only choice. If you don't care about the dock, then there will probably be better choices available in the next few months.
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So confusing at times, spec wise the Prime is killer and the price is good but severely crippled with major problems - Lets hope ICS helps.
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Hold on. The Prime is not "severely crippled". The GPS is not a component that allows the tablet to function, it's only an accessory. If the processor had an issue, say, burning up and rendering the tablet useless, I'd say that would qualify as severely crippled. And the WIFI works. No one anywhere has said that there WIFI just simply doesn't function.
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Really this is the second or third post I've seen this on today. Someone already let the OP know his "ERROR" this is like an overused tag line.
Im in the fence as well. As I said in another thread I don't want this to be the 2012 Blackberry playbook that store are dumping 6 mos from now. If the price point were lower id be more confident. But based on anything I think im keeping it. The dock will help keep it unique. A month from now if im discouraged there will still be ebay where prices stay higher longer.
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You have a TP so make your own call. Ignoring what the internet has to say, have YOU had a problem with the wi-fi reception. Or more to the point given your experience a hotels do you feel that the TP would have problems in the hotels you go to and would it be a deal breaker? If so return it. Is WEP critical for you? If so return it. Otherwise I would keep it.
The TP seems to be very close to stock so should be inline for easy upgrades. It is a risk the Asus will stop supporting it earlier thn we like but I think with the ICS upgrade we should be good for a while. I would be more worried about picking up a tablet with a heavily customized interface. They, in my experience, would be the more likely not to support android upgrades moving forward.
My TP wifi reception is on par with my Macbook air and GN so I have no complaints there. I would guess if the TP had accessing a hotel AP chances are the rest of my equipment, with the exception of my HP laptop, would also have problems.
GPS has been a bit less predictable but it is not a showstopper for me (though it is a disappointment) . If I used the TP for navigation in car I would probably invest in a stand and a external GPS puck. Again not optimal but acceptable for me.
Overall I am pleased with my purchase and the functionality it provides, especially when you include the keyboard dock. I tend not to use the dock on the go bit when I am at my desk I find myself continuing to use the TP where the xoom basically was just charging till I left my desk.
The screen is quite pleasant and a significant factor in the system. I have not used a lot of different tablets but from what I have seen the TPs screen is superior to most androietablets and on par with the ipad2.
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There is this website like 1 Sale A Day called Woot and they had refurbished Toshiba Thrives 10" the other day with 90 day warranties. Me and my friend were looking into it but I had my heart set on this one and am glad I got the Prime. I have read people with problems and have read people who love it and have no problems at all. And GPS isn't a big deal for me on the tablet but I hope wifi is good. I have a small 1BR condo and my phone does great on wifi but sometimes has a little problem getting on my works wifi but I hope this does good when I am working. I hope I get a good tablet with nothing wrong and I can't wait to get it. I did kind of like the Toshiba Thrive cause of having a USB but I can deal with not having one here and I think I may eventually get the dock now. And I know here in 5-6 months more quad core tablets will be out but I had my Archos for a year so I plan on keeping this one for a pretty long time. LOL!
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wynand32 said:
For me, the Prime's #1 advantage remains the integrated keyboard dock.
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^^^^^
This.
Even when other Teg3 tablets come out (probably even the high res Asus) the most distinguishing feature of the Prime will be its keyboard dock. And that's a real important feature for quite a few people.
Ask yourself this. How important are the following features to you:
1) GPS
2) Super Strong Wi-Fi
3) An HD display
4) More RAM
5) Higher clock speed
6) Price
If 6 is important, other tablets are probably going to be more expensive. If having the latest and greatest is important to you, than other tablets will have 3, 4, and 5. If you're willing to pay more, you'll get those extra features along with 1 and 2. If the docks important you really don't have another choice. Everyone on a public forum has different needs and priorities so you're not going to get a definitive answer to your question.
For what it's worth, ever since the case issue went viral I haven't seen any price drop on the TF201. In fact it's now gone up by over $100 at Amazon and Ebay. Go figure, imo the demand is far higher than returns. If Asus comes up with a fix that works, it will bring back the doubting fans, no doubt.
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Wohooo! Luv your smile!
These threads are so LAME. I keep sitting hear reading all these complaints, undecisiveness, this or that. while I've been sitting here with my device since 12/22 enjoying it. other than GPS, mine has no issues. if so unhappy or whatever about it, just take it back end of story. wait till next device rolls around. then hope you won't be going through same ordeal against as all devices when first released has their bugs or gripes. Don't look for XDA to hold your hand and tell you everything going to be OK. Xda just tells you like it is. its completely understandable if issues affecting your device are too much for you. remember you can always exchange it also. plus people mostly commenting on wifi issues is blowing b.s. I've extensively tested my Prime against my Ipad and Atrix4g. Prime performs right on par with those as far as wifi speeds, strength, range, and stability goes.
Maybe you should read the positive transformer prime thread. where people such as your self was conicnced of this or that wrong. People reading all these posts on negative things. Then these people realized they are so glad they didn't let the negative things spread here on XDA about the Prime influence them. just take a look at all the testimonials in there..lol
Honestly. even once new devices come out, it won't be at the great value Prime is. expect them to be alot more expensive. Also whoever said March will show new devices comparable to prime out is mistaken. only device that has the best chance of being released around d that time is Ipad3. Apple has already just announced some big press conference or show coming up to announce something. More than likely ipad3 and Ipad mini.
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For what it's worth, ever since the case issue went viral I haven't seen any price drop on the TF201. In fact it's now gone up by over $100 at Amazon and Ebay. Go figure, imo the demand is far higher than returns. If Asus comes up with a fix that works, it will bring back the doubting fans, no doubt.
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Wohooo! Luv your smile!
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no since in trying to convince the nay Sayers. Prime is already a success as its constantly selling out in preorders and price even went up on it. Prime will never be the ho touchpad or blackberry fail.....lmao.
mods should just start shutting down all these threads as they pop up or at least merge them with other ones. plus its in the wrong section..lmal
secret_skwerl said:
Ok so I have till tomorrow to return my Transformer Prime to Best Buy. Then it will be 14 days since I received it from bestbuy.com.
I'm truly concerned about the many issues that have been found on this device. Yes, I know it's new and yes, I know ICS is coming the 12th.
What my concern is, is that no matter of software tweaking will fix pogosticks in the hardware, or poor antenna placement (GPS, WiFi & BT), poor case design which interferes with the GPS signal. If it was just a GPS issue I would be like whatever I have my phone for navigation and it can determine my general location well enough for apps. The WiFi issue is a big one for me. I travel. I stay in hotels. Which don't always have the best of reception or signal strength for WiFi. I'm also disappointed that the WiFi doesn't play nice with WEP (Well, at least mine doesn't). Some offices I visit only have WEP setup. It is also troublesome it doesn't have 5 gHz Wifi, but not a deal breaker. I have typically always loved and enjoyed my ASUS products. I have been using their motherboards for years.
I don't have the money to invest into another device in 5-6 months. I'm at my wits end on this. I can see the potential but the possibility of this turning into a $500 misfit from the land of broken tablets is great. I need honest opinions and input. I have been trolling this board for weeks while waiting for it to come and i have seen people both happy and not with their Prime. I truly do not know what to do. Stick it out and take whatever lumps or bring it back and wait for the next round of Tegra 3 tablets.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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You have till the 24th!!! I'm returning/swapping mine out for a nonfuckedup one too. I called bb yesterday. Its some special holiday return policy.
Lady on the phone was going to overnite me one but couldn't cuz there weren't any. Wha wha
I then called some stores....gonna get some inventory on the 9th!!! I'm in socal tho...
My GPS is botched and so is my serial number. But I LOVE this thing. Should be all good on the 9th
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Only you can make the decision. If you have doubts about your happiness with it, and your purchase isn't giving you the thrill you expected, then return it. If you like it, and don't think the issues will bother you then keep it.
Those who are trying to convince you to keep it remind me of a story many years ago. I was thinking of buying an early first generation VW diesel vehicle. An old man I knew owned one. When I asked him about it he bragged and bragged about the fuel mileage and all all the advantages. I couldn't wait to buy one. Soon after I did, all kinds of problems kept appearing, making me very unhappy, and I eventually sold it at a huge loss after several months, just happy to be rid of it. When I saw him again and told him about the problems, he agreed that he also had many. When I asked him why he had bragged on it so highly. His reply was, "Son, you know misery loves company!"
I'll never forget that. His quote does seem to be true at times.
Not meant to single out fruit fans or others at all. The more I read threads here, the more I can only think that the forum is getting cluttered with crap from non-Prime owners, so that folks researching steer clear of the device, as if it were a concerted effort...
Then again, I could just be taking the conspiracy theorist avenue here, unwittingly. Who knows?
In reality, some have GPS issues, BT, Wifi, light bleed. I don't, so maybe that's tainting me. ICS was a fantastic upgrade for me as well, so maybe I'm just tainted toward the positive...
Anybody else?
lmfao this is almost as bad as the whiners and complainers here already, a conspiracy??
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Probably. Seems like something Apple would do.
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lmfao this is almost as bad as the whiners and complainers here already, a conspiracy??
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Not trying to convince anybody, but have thought it for weeks now, and I keep seeing threads and posts that have bolstered my hypothesis (to me).
This is an awful assumption. These issues are real. I would almost think the opposite of your opinion, that people are on here to make the Prime SOUND LIKE THERE ARE NO ISSUES!
All of the people with Perfect Primes, Perfect Screen, Perfect Wifi, Perfect GPS, No Screen Lifting, etc. I have a hard time believe ALL of them, not some of them.
Also, I have seen quotes like "Asus is trying to make it right!" "Asus is a great company." Etc.
Those have to be the biggest LOL statements to say about Asus right now.
I think Asus is behind it. They hate making money.
Lots of the plants seem a bit simple to be prime owners too. Maybe just needs more active moderation now the initial burst of activity is done.
Conspiracy is a strong word! I am sure just about every company highlights the weaknesses of their competitors. An Apple employee once seriously told a friend of mine that Android was unsecure, and it would be easy for bad persons to steal his credit card information if he used that OS. I doubt Apple told this employee to say that, but that kind of stuff goes on everywhere.
There are real issues with the Prime for many people. They are not happy about them, so they are complaining. My Prime has been great, except for a semi-weak GPS. (I can get 9-12 satellites outdoors without wi-fi OFF, but it takes a long time to lock compared to my phone and probably won't work in a moving vehicle.) The wi-fi is probably weak also, but I've never had trouble with it, so I'm fine. I'm sure Asus would love to have this whole Prime development/release to do over! I knew the issues ahead of time (as I am not a super early adopter), but I decided to buy the Prime anyway ... I have a phone for GPS navigation ... and probably would never have used the Prime for that, anyway.
I have no hard feelings toward Asus and feel they are doing their best to make things right. I will buy their products in the future without hesitation. However, since the product design is flawed in the wi-fi / gps arena, they can only do so much ... many people will remain unhappy because Asus really can't make this one completely right.
The prime forums make me want to give up on XDA. No matter what the device if you give two identical ones to two different people they will have different issues. The prime simply has some flaws that may or may not affect you. So does nearly every other product of any kind on the market. So what if they are releasing a another prime device? It's fairly in line with there development cycle. Hell the entire tablet industry is on a short dev cycle right now like smartphones have been.
I know I really enjoy my prime despite the fact it seems to have poor wifi reception and I dislike the power button & charge port placement.
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Lots of the plants seem a bit simple to be prime owners too. Maybe just needs more active moderation now the initial burst of activity is done.
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I agree, just need a few more Mod's that have time to work here on this forum. One guy isn't enough to work with 50+ threads a day on the same topic...
Get this guy a tinfoil hat, pronto!
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I agree, just need a few more Mod's that have time to work here on this forum. One guy isn't enough to work with 50+ threads a day on the same topic...
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+1000000000000000 That's probably more like it. There are blatant troll treads, but you're right about redundant gripe threads, to the point of it seeming like and utter spamfest of a hundred identical threads... by the same people, thread after thread.
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Get this guy a tinfoil hat, pronto!
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Lemme guess.. you reside in, or around, Cupertino?
There's just too many "should I buy it? I hear it sucks" threads for me to think there might be a smear effort going on... and I don't wear kleenex boxes on my feet.
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I've been reading all the different posts about issues with the Prime ranging from backlight bleed (#1 issue to me) to WiFi issues to GPS issues (obvious) to shotty craftmanship to bad pogo pins and so forth.
Let's be honest, with the recent thread concerning investigating the pogo pins and the fault aux wifi connection, there isn't a whole lot of confidence in our primes and so far it seems every batch from BB to BC to C1 all have flaws. If you have a prime that has good Wifi (and most are coming out are that way) or GPS (rare) I'm afraid that eventually, after normal use, those pogo pins will stop contacting the ribbon that connects to the antenna, and over a period of time we'll continue to see the prime get worse. Add on top of backlight bleed that continued to get worse for me (I just got rid of the second prime) as well as other issues, I'm wondering as a community the kind pull we have in order to Asus to straighten up.
They is no beating around the bush for them now concerning the intricacies of the prime and its internals -- those have already been exposed and two threads concerning perfect primes like this don't offset the headaches that a majority of us share (at first I doubted if there was ever a prime that worked completely). 3/4ths of the topics are problems/negatives and we're all left wondering what to do; mitigating the risks in our minds based on the opinions of others.
Due to the pogo pins discovery alone, I think it should warrant a mass RMA. Or atleast get ASUS to admit on faulty design. Or have they gone down the rabbit hole too far to get back out?
Please ASUS, pogo pins don't work, we're experiencing that now, we want the TF200 to work, we don't want the TF300.
None the less, what are the options for us, and what do you think we'll see down the line with regards to the TF200? How do we see ASUS reacting? With the press squarely focused on the XDA forums for Prime discoveries (now more than ever), let's leverage this opportunity to do something...
agreed...I shipped mine back today to the RMA Dept. Hopefully, they will fix GPS problem and wifi.
This table would be the LAST TABLET I weould ever buy from Asus.
I would love a TF300 if it is the same specs and they same color backplate!
I don't care about aluminum vs plastic.
This entire forum for the Prime is riddled with negativity and common issues because the vast majority of Prime owners have no reason to post about their lack of problems.
For example, the iPad 1 had a large issue with poor 3G reception because of its metal backplate. There was no mass RMA.
The iPad 2 had a large number of reported incidents of very very bad light bleed. No mass RMA.
The majority of people with iPads and Primes are perfectly content and have no severe issues.
I find it unfortunate that number of people with issues such as poor wifi and light bleed is so large, but Asus seems to be trying.
..there are people using the devices in different ways.
I am sure that 80-90% of those using WiFi and BT will see that it does not work, while those not using a BT headset, never discover the problem., and believe they got what they paid for.
People uses also router of different kinds and date. The result may vary and that is acceptable, but here all are hits more or less the same way, and it does not look like a coincidence.
I like the Prime I have, and I would send it back ONLY if this is the last resort.
But when you spend 626€, you expect quality, and the issues here, also those I do not have myself" are not caused by "usage", but bad quality control in the first place.
A car will be recalled if the company realize that the brakes are bad built, or electrical part are faulty.
I only expect a 100% working tablet than can be used with ALL the features I paid for. GPS, well I do not care, but WiFi or BT on a tablet is like "fuel" on a car.
Yeah but the Problem is, there are many Primes out there that work perfectly and are totally awesome.
I feel for everyone that has gotten a bad one and ASUS should try to improve quality assurance.
BUT there are many users (the vast majority i'd say) that dont have problems. I'm one of those lucky bastards. Full wifi speeds wherever i am (same as with my other devices), GPS working outside, perfect screen, perfect dock, endless battery power, BT connects to anything i have and works even better than on my phone... (HTC sucks BTwise)
And i cant be the only one since everywhere i checked its sold out immediately.
My Prime works perfectly and is totally awesome.
Hope this helps
I doubt this is the first device to use those pins
I'll just keep returning and exchanging until I get one that works or Samsumg or other manufacturer releases a better tablet.
Poll the users of this board
I keep seeing posts that state "The Majority Of Users Are Happy With The Prime" and just the opposite, stating "The Majority of Users Are Having Problems And Unhappy". Can someone post a survey on here asking the question and lets put it to bed to see where it stands? If I knew how to do it, I'd do it myself.
Personally, I returned mine because the Wifi didn't work well 10 feet, 2 walls away from the router, browser lockups, general lockups, Asus's failure to respond to my support request, and Asus's response to the community did not make me feel confident they would fix the issues.
I'll do a vote. Let's see if I get flamed.
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I keep seeing posts that state "The Majority Of Users Are Happy With The Prime" and just the opposite, stating "The Majority of Users Are Having Problems And Unhappy". Can someone post a survey on here asking the question and lets put it to bed to see where it stands? If I knew how to do it, I'd do it myself.
Personally, I returned mine because the Wifi didn't work well 10 feet, 2 walls away from the router, browser lockups, general lockups, Asus's failure to respond to my support request, and Asus's response to the community did not make me feel confident they would fix the issues.
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Its not even needed...take a look at majority of polls steady made. Almost all in favor of prime. Plus there is one already like you said n the majority in it shows happy owners. The ultimate would be tl look at all the different users in the Positive transformer prime thread. All different posters clearly outnumber those with issues. Most of the time people with issues make mulitple threads on same issues. Most are the same ones posting n posting over again. So another poll would be useless n probably closed down because a few already made along those lines.
A look at the link in my thread will make it clear as day. Plus why do you think those who come with silly negative posts get flamed so much by so many people already satisfied with device?
Learn how to use the search function for a poll already made on same subject...
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I keep seeing posts that state "The Majority Of Users Are Happy With The Prime" and just the opposite, stating "The Majority of Users Are Having Problems And Unhappy". Can someone post a survey on here asking the question and lets put it to bed to see where it stands? If I knew how to do it, I'd do it myself.
Personally, I returned mine because the Wifi didn't work well 10 feet, 2 walls away from the router, browser lockups, general lockups, Asus's failure to respond to my support request, and Asus's response to the community did not make me feel confident they would fix the issues.
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Lol, right after reading this I was going to post a poll but I also cannot figure out how to do it. I see the check box for a poll but when you check it nothing happens. Maybe you need like 1000 posts first or something.
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I'll do a vote. Let's see if I get flamed.
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Actually you will..lmfao you've been warned n won't even be taken seriously afterwards. Your credibility on the line..lmao. plus it will get shut down fast.
I could care less about my credibility on XDA...lol. I just want to fuel discussion about the prime. I bought two of them in the short time (brought both of them back) and in that time I never came on XDA because I had the tablet.
In short, as soon as I get a satisfactory tablet, you won't see a post from me again.
clouds5 said:
everywhere i checked its sold out immediately.
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Many stores are receiving shipments of 1, or 5 ... many of the newly shipped items could be gobbled up by people returning due to issues, and exchanging for a new replacement. Just because stores don't have any, doesn't mean its popular.
BostonDan2 said:
Can someone post a survey on here asking the question and lets put it to bed to see where it stands? If I knew how to do it, I'd do it myself.
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The answer is NO .. because if you do, someone will close it, delete it, or flame you. For 2 reasons:
1) this is a developer only forum and not a customer service board, or complaint board, etc ... read the rules
2) because only positive posts/threads actually survive around here due to the recent fanboy'ish nature of some people. i.e. "omg another post bashing wifi, just go return it already!!" x100 = mods delete thread.