someone would suggest it as a "must buy"? did you notice quality gain in pictures and/or videos????
CaFFeiNe666 said:
someone would suggest it as a "must buy"? did you notice quality gain in pictures and/or videos????
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tried some shots with free version
photos, usually it hase lower is and faster timings, both with or without flash (sometimes razr uses so high isos with flash... 800+, camera ics uses 100 200, with no lighting difference)
some photos have a little better details in indoor, but also have a little more jpeg noise reduction... so usually better...
for videos..
couldn't set more than 1280, and 16fps, and no audio regolations (this is a huge pro for razr camera...)
probably isn't so worth, also cause i have camera zoom fx. camera advance, cameramx, camera360, if i want to shot better photos, with a lot more controls...
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I've noticed that the pictures in lower-than-normal light look a bit grainy. I've noticed that even at 8mp (3264x1840), the file size is about 1 mb. On every other camera I've used, 8mp resolution was about 4-6 mb. Is there any way to reduce the amount of compression applied to images? Can't imagine they would lock us into such a high compression rate without the ability to adjust it.
Try flashing xboarders amazing quick sense or ARHD custom roms. I'm not sure but I think most custom sense roms have zero compression in the camera app.
zellroot said:
Try flashing xboarders amazing quick sense or ARHD custom roms. I'm not sure but I think most custom sense roms have zero compression in the camera app.
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What if you haven't rooted the device?
davidktk said:
What if you haven't rooted the device?
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You may want to try ProCapture. Im taking photos with this app and it gives much nicer ones than either my stock telus camera or quiksense 1.4.1 camera.
zellroot said:
Try flashing xboarders amazing quick sense or ARHD custom roms. I'm not sure but I think most custom sense roms have zero compression in the camera app.
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Im using quick sense files still are 1-.1.5 mb.
xManMythLegend said:
Im using quick sense files still are 1-.1.5 mb.
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I used Root Explorer (Market) and altered the "media_profiles.xml" file to "100" for all compression levels for the camera. I also set the ImageDecoding Memcap to 80000000 instead of 20000000. Now my shots are all 5mb and above. HOWEVER...the problem appears to be the bit depth which is 8 and the ppi resolution is only 72. This is extremely poor for any camera. Unless the ppi resolution can be changed within the camera, I am of the opinion that there is no hope! It is a very tiny sensor compared to even a point and shoot camera so perhaps that is the best we can expect. I compared before and after picture quality and even at 5mb and up compared to 1-2mb, the exact same pictures still look the same!
frodoboy said:
I used Root Explorer (Market) and altered the "media_profiles.xml" file to "100" for all compression levels for the camera. I also set the ImageDecoding Memcap to 80000000 instead of 20000000. Now my shots are all 5mb and above. HOWEVER...the problem appears to be the bit depth which is 8 and the ppi resolution is only 72. This is extremely poor for any camera. Unless the ppi resolution can be changed within the camera, I am of the opinion that there is no hope! It is a very tiny sensor compared to even a point and shoot camera so perhaps that is the best we can expect. I compared before and after picture quality and even at 5mb and up compared to 1-2mb, the exact same pictures still look the same!
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Interesting. I did compare shots and the larger files didnt seem noticeably different.
I dont know enough about camera but that bit depth is poor for anything. Im assuming this was a tricky way to get the zero shutter lag going ?
Maybe a dev can take a gander and share his/her thoughts.
xManMythLegend said:
Interesting. I did compare shots and the larger files didnt seem noticeably different.
I dont know enough about camera but that bit depth is poor for anything. Im assuming this was a tricky way to get the zero shutter lag going ?
Maybe a dev can take a gander and share his/her thoughts.
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Yes the bit depth is horrendous! It is usually created by the hardware engine for the sensor so if that is all HTC put into it, I doubt any dev can make it better with a software patch if it truly is in the hardware. I tried my settings on all camera modes and I get around 5-7mpx for everything except the Clear Shot HDR. That locks the camera app up! I've been using Pro HDR camera anyway because it allows you to save up to an 8mpx image at full resolution. I have it in the same folder as the camera and camcorder (I love folders!) so I just select that when I want to shoot an HDR. I use my Panasonic G2 for normal shots and video anyway. The phone camera is just in case I don't have my big camera with me. I don't think HTC should even try to brag about how great this camera is. At 8mpx and 72ppi, it is a joke!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14Rle4s6tI
I'll be adding "Sony Bravia Engine" in my next ROM which increase's photo and video quality and i will be adding
ro.media.dec.jpeg.memcap=8000000
ro.media.enc.hprof.vid.bps=8000000
ro.media.enc.jpeg.quality=90 or 100
Revolution said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14Rle4s6tI
I'll be adding "Sony Bravia Engine" in my next ROM which increase's photo and video quality and i will be adding
ro.media.dec.jpeg.memcap=8000000
ro.media.enc.hprof.vid.bps=8000000
ro.media.enc.jpeg.quality=90 or 100
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That was a convincing video of what the Bravia engine can do. Hope it can do that with our Amaze
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It will work better I think because of the QHD screen .
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A different take on this: Compression applied after capturing a low-light image probably isn't what is causing the low image quality & smaller filesize you're seeing. Image quality in all digital cameras drops when light levels fall below the sensor+lens ability to capture enough light for a good picture, and you get the equivalent of using high-ISO film: a grainy image with less detail to write to the file. The Amaze is still better than most phone cams, but will still not do as well as a larger point & shoot camera in low light -- regardless of compression.
That said . . . nope, I haven't 'gone deep' into how well compression itself works on the Amaze.
brocco99 said:
A different take on this: Compression applied after capturing a low-light image probably isn't what is causing the low image quality & smaller filesize you're seeing. Image quality in all digital cameras drops when light levels fall below the sensor+lens ability to capture enough light for a good picture, and you get the equivalent of using high-ISO film: a grainy image with less detail to write to the file. The Amaze is still better than most phone cams, but will still not do as well as a larger point & shoot camera in low light -- regardless of compression.
That said . . . nope, I haven't 'gone deep' into how well compression itself works on the Amaze.
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Holy crap you waited for two years before posting THIS!!!!
lol j.k
Personally its not about having PnS quality as lens size simply wont allow it. But if picture quality can be better...then I want to know. Particularly what the trade off is and why.
I remain curious as to how PQ compares to iPhone4 and GalaxyNexus. Such a pain to find comparison pics.
Hi!
I noticed that you must hold RAZR really firmly, nearly rock solid to take sharp photo. If your hand tremble a bit, you going get blury photo.
I think that is software issue. Like tooking picture to slow or something.
Is there any way to improve it (MOD or App)?
I won't buy stand for RAZR to take sharp pics.
You'll need a faster shutter speed, the camera defaults to a low shutter speed to keep the ISO down (increasing the ISO increases the noise in the picture).
Sadly, I haven't found any apps that can control the shutter speed yet. Your chances are better with a lot of light, though!
It's not satisfiying for me. Tell me... There are chances to improve it in future, or camera hardware isn't good?
I use Camera Zoom FX instead of the camera. It's got an option for stabilizing the camera while taking the shot. Plus, I feel like the picture quality sounds better compared to the ones taken by the stock camera application.
Give it a try.
Okay. Thanks.
I'll check it out
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I use Camera Zoom FX instead of the camera. It's got an option for stabilizing the camera while taking the shot. Plus, I feel like the picture quality sounds better compared to the ones taken by the stock camera application.
Give it a try.
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Been using Camera Zoom FX too. Great replacement for stock camera so far, but in terms of Video capture, I would suggest for the default app in order to use HD capture..
I feel like the Photon has the capability to take decent pictures but with a higher rate of efficiency if maybe better software was written for it. Using the stock camera software I find it hard to take a good picture. Yes I know the photon doesn't have an amazing camera and it suffers whenever there isn't enough light.
But using apps from the market like :Camera360 and Camera zoom FX, I am able to take much better pictures.
Camera360 has a "stabalization Feature" which basically waits until you stop shaking the damn camera, which has been able to produce the least blurry pics but the problem is there is much much more noise in this mode.
Has anyone had any luck with apps that maybe I haven't tried yet. I don't mind paying for it so I am not limited to free apps. Or has someone come up with a way to take good pics with the photon that I haven't tried yet.
Also does anyone know of a way to adjust the focus when in video mode? Is there an app or a mod that would allow me to adjust the focus when shooting video?
Thanks for any help or advice.
im also interested on buying one of the app but still can decide which one work better on photon
the camera zoom FX
or
Camera 360
can anyone give input ?
Personally out of the 8 or so camera apps I have 360 and Vignette are the best overall apps for taking pictures
As for video idk
sample of 360 enhance effect when I was first trying out the Photons camera
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Hi there,
i have a Xperia S with Stock Android 4.0 installed.
The phone has a good camera, but the photos are very highly compressed.
e.g. a photo with 4912x1080px is only 282KB in size.
Sony knows about the problem, but it does not look as if it will be fixed sonn.
My question:
Is there a photo app for Android with all the cool ICS-features (Sweep-Panorama and so on...)
in which i can set the JPEG compression quality by myself?
282 KB that seems a bit small, I'm getting between 2-3 MB
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normal shots:
4000x3000 shot at broad daylight: 1,74MB
4000x3000 at night: 2,05MB
4000x2250 daylight: 2,29MB
sweep panorama:
4912x1080: 376KB
4912x1080: 244KB
the normal shot qualitiy is ok, but not good.
The quality could be so much better, if i can set the jpeg quality higher / manually.
Use PROCAPTURE, its noise reducing mode is good enough, but a bit difficult to use...
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My panorama's are around 480kb, normal 12mp pics are 2-3mb like others which is indeed over / aggressively compressed it's quite a dynamic rate in terms of whats in the pic determines its size.
I have tried the camera ics+ app which has quality settings but it doesn't seem to compress any less even on 'ultra' mode which suggests the compression is done early on in the software loops
is there anyway to lose the compression, maybe sony can do it if they want..the 12mp snapper is not up to the performance when in low lights and the flash (camera flash) is really weak, some workaround for the flash ?? maybe?? i am really happy using UCAM , as the Stock camera app is really buggy and 3 out of 5 shots comes out blurred , but still the flash is really weak and causes red eye problems in low light conditons
keithwalton said:
My panorama's are around 480kb, normal 12mp pics are 2-3mb like others which is indeed over / aggressively compressed it's quite a dynamic rate in terms of whats in the pic determines its size.
I have tried the camera ics+ app which has quality settings but it doesn't seem to compress any less even on 'ultra' mode which suggests the compression is done early on in the software loops
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Using camera ics the file sizes of my images are significantly higher.
After investigating a bit, I've seen that, when using the miui camera's auto, the phone does not take photos at slower speeds than 1 / 13s, and instead of shooting at 1 / 10s or more exposure, opts to pull ISO, reaching up to 102400, which makes grains like big fists.
All this generates horrible photos at night when the phone could take much better pictures.
In theory, the reason why it does not exceed 1 / 13s is because otherwise the photos would be blurry, but the optical stabilizer that has works well enough to be able to shoot photos up to 1s of exposure without the photo being trepidated or blurry (if you have a good pulse). This allows to lower the ISO to 800,1600 or 3200, which are much more normal figures.
If anyone knows how to develop apps and that, you could easily make a camera app much better than the one that currently exists. I do not know if in 4pda or in the forums of miui there will have been talk about this. The more people who know it, the greater the likelihood of solving this.
Nobody?
Did you try Google Camera?
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Did you try Google Camera?
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Yes, I try it, and the same happens. If you take a picture in the darkness, the limit is 1/13s and 102400 ISO