I recently rooted my EVO 3D running hboot 1.4.00 s-off and I am planning on flashing an ICS rom. Do I need to update the kernel to an ICS kernel before flashing an ICS ROM?
Well the ICS Roms already have ICS kernels built into them so you should be good to go unless you want a custom kernel.
gdingfrii said:
I recently rooted my EVO 3D running hboot 1.4.00 s-off and I am planning on flashing an ICS rom. Do I need to update the kernel to an ICS kernel before flashing an ICS ROM?
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Since you are on Hboot 1.4, the kernel will flash when you flash the ROM. You do not need to flash the kernel separately unless you choose a custom one (I'm digging dodova's stock kernel right now- great performance and battery life and very stable).
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coal686 said:
Since you are on Hboot 1.4, the kernel will flash when you flash the ROM. You do not need to flash the kernel separately unless you choose a custom one (I'm digging dodova's stock kernel right now- great performance and battery life and very stable).
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Wanted to clarify this post. Having Hboot 1.4 doesn't allow you to flash kernals through recovery, being S-OFF does. If you were on 1.4 and had S-On, you wouldn't be able to flash kernals through recovery with a ROM.
Also, these should really be posted in the Q/A sub forum. Just a note for next time OP.
Thanks
Appreciate the quick response from both of you and the recommendation. I'll check it out. Thank you.
Will do.
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Wanted to clarify this post. Having Hboot 1.4 doesn't allow you to flash kernals through recovery, being S-OFF does. If you were on 1.4 and had S-On, you wouldn't be able to flash kernals through recovery with a ROM.
Also, these should really be posted in the Q/A sub forum. Just a note for next time OP.
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Oops yeah when I came back into the forums I realized I started it in the wrong spot. I'll try to be more observant next time. Thanks for the clarification.
gdingfrii said:
Oops yeah when I came back into the forums I realized I started it in the wrong spot. I'll try to be more observant next time. Thanks for the clarification.
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tgruendler said:
Wanted to clarify this post. Having Hboot 1.4 doesn't allow you to flash kernals through recovery, being S-OFF does. If you were on 1.4 and had S-On, you wouldn't be able to flash kernals through recovery with a ROM.
Also, these should really be posted in the Q/A sub forum. Just a note for next time OP.
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Both thanked for not trolling each other on the misplacement of a post.
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Wanted to clarify this post. Having Hboot 1.4 doesn't allow you to flash kernals through recovery, being S-OFF does.
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I know what I meant! Chalk that one up to newborn, lack of sleep baby brain.
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Hey so I know that there was already a forum about battery life on the Rezound, but it was a bit outdated when it came to sense 4 roms. (S-OFF)
Here is so far my best combination to get the best battery!
Flash the newest leak here
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-0-3-for-the-htc-rezound-includes-new-radios/
twice by placing it in the root of your SD card and entering fastboot. Make sure to flash this twice!
Then I did a factory reset just to be safe. Flash the correct recovery you want then install the AWESOME team PkMN Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630696
MAKE SURE TO KEEP THE KERNEL from the rom! It runs smooth and super cool
So far im at 73% with 6 hours, which may not seem like much; but it was way much more than what I was getting before
codenaruto said:
Hey so I know that there was already a forum about battery life on the Rezound, but it was a bit outdated when it came to sense 4 roms. (S-OFF)
Here is so far my best combination to get the best battery!
Flash the newest leak here
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-0-3-for-the-htc-rezound-includes-new-radios/
twice by placing it in the root of your SD card and entering fastboot. Make sure to flash this twice!
Then I did a factory reset just to be safe. Flash the correct recovery you want then install the AWESOME team PkMN Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630696
MAKE SURE TO KEEP THE KERNEL from the newest leak! It runs smooth and super cool
So far im at 73% with 6 hours, which may not seem like much; but it was way much more than what I was getting before
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What did you do about the rom installing its kernel when you flashed it? You removed it?
That ROM doesn't create the phxxx file to flash so there is nothing to erase.
So in otherwords u would flash the Rom then the flash the latest update, bc if u r soff pkmn Rom installs old kernal.
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Since we are now S-OFF we no longer need the PBxxx.img file to reboot into bootloader to install the kernel.
the kernel gets installed with the ROM.
you also don't need to worry about kernels when doing a nandroid back-up from say, ICS to a GB ROM, any more.
so to the OP, you are running the older kernel, unless you installed the new leak kernel afterwards, which I would like to know if you did, because I tried running the newest leak boot.img(kernel) on the PkMn ROM and it wouldn't boot.
i believe that in scott's thread to the stock rooted version of the latest update he has the PH98IMG that is the kernel. You could just install PKMN and then install that throught the HBoot
dalvear88 said:
i believe that in scott's thread to the stock rooted version of the latest update he has the PH98IMG that is the kernel. You could just install PKMN and then install that throught the HBoot
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it wouldn't boot up for me, perhaps others will have better luck.
andybones said:
it wouldn't boot up for me, perhaps others will have better luck.
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i'm gonna try it now. I have S-off on the phone by default so i hope it works lol. i'll let ya know in a few if i have the same results. I was thinking that would work but i may be wrong....
Yes like Andy said, if you're s off the kernel is flashed from recovery when you flash the rom. That's what I was asking if you removed but that answered my question. I was thinking there was a ramdisk difference in the sense 4 kernel and the stock sense 3.6 kernel. I know you said you flashed the RUU like you would for s on, but since theres an "(S-OFF)" in your post I was thinking you were s off and flashed the pokemon kernel with the rom, which would just mean that you're loving the same kernel everybody else is running who hasn't run the lasted leak hboot update.
It's scary that people just flash away without knowing what their doing...
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it wouldn't boot up for me, perhaps others will have better luck.
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I would think it wouldnt boot for anybody. The pokemon rom is sense 4, so you need a sense 4 kernel. The latest leak is a sense 3.6 kernel. In theory it shouldnt work at all.
If you do exactly what the OP says, step by step, the pokemon rom overwrites the latest leak rom and its kernel in its entirety. so he is just running pokemon rom.
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Yes like Andy said, if you're s off the kernel is flashed from recovery when you flash the rom. That's what I was asking if you removed but that answered my question. I was thinking there was a ramdisk difference in the sense 4 kernel and the stock sense 3.6 kernel. I know you said you flashed the RUU like you would for s on, but since theres an "(S-OFF)" in your post I was thinking you were s off and flashed the pokemon kernel with the rom, which would just mean that you're loving the same kernel everybody else is running who hasn't run the lasted leak hboot update.
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^^^This^^^^ Ding Ding Ding
mjones73 said:
It's scary that people just flash away without knowing what their doing...
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I agree, but it's a lot less harmful is you're s-off. The only thing that can really hurt you are radios and bootloader. S-on is a different story.
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brando56894 said:
I agree, but it's a lot less harmful is you're s-off. The only thing that can really hurt you are radios and bootloader. S-on is a different story.
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S-on is almost completely safe ... that's why htc did the dev unlock!
With s-off there are way more ways to brick your phone it doesn't do any checking to see if things are signed or work or anything... that is not safer than s-on.
If you don't know what your doing htc dev unlock is a perfectly fine option.
If your not running the newest kernel then the radios must be what are really making the difference
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I agree, but it's a lot less harmful is you're s-off. 2
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Lol, I think you have that backwards.....
Sorry! Whoops I meant to say keep kernel from ROM. Sorry guys! Should have checked my post before
and even more,
"It turns out that this doesn't include new radios after all."
from android police
Which means that the it's just the ROM after all!
I guess this thread can be deleted then
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If your not running the newest kernel then the radios must be what are really making the difference
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unless he didn't flash the last RUU, the radios are the same from the last leak.
I keeping getting a bootloop on all ics roms and I tried a kernal that someone recommend but it kills my 3d and i get random reboots . Is there any way to fix this problem and install the ROM with everything working. I'm on hb 1.50 . S- on . Or is there a way to downgrade to hb 1.40 but i don't have a Linux . What's the easiest way ?
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I also get the same results!
You can always try 4EXT Recovery with smartflash on. It works for both S-On and S-Off
ccr515 said:
I keeping getting a bootloop on all ics roms and I tried a kernal that someone recommend but it kills my 3d and i get random reboots . Is there any way to fix this problem and install the ROM with everything working. I'm on hb 1.50 . S- on . Or is there a way to downgrade to hb 1.40 but i don't have a Linux . What's the easiest way ?
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try a superwipe. that fixed mine. Look in the dev forum for it (i think you can find it in the mean rom thread)
You could also downgrade using the instructions in the development thread. Ir doesnt require Linux, it includes a downloadable bootable CD. ITA damn near an automated process minus the brick part. And +1 for 4ext recovery it has features built just for S-on.
My other shooter is an FNAR .308
I already tired a super wipe and my netboot doesn't have a cd drive .
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Try using any of Chad.Goodman's ICS Kernel after flashing an ICS ROM
1) DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK
2) USE THE RIGHT KERNEL
*credit to chad.goodman* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623646
That the kernal that I already use . It breaks my 3d and i get random reboots
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ccr515 said:
That the kernal that I already use . It breaks my 3d and i get random reboots
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Well what kernel did you use, you could be flashing the wrong one. The other option is to downgrade HBOOT ,, no linux required
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563342
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I got my ICS ROM to work by flashing RLS1
I doubt downgrading HBOOT will help, he's getting it to work with Chad's kernel. I'm exhibiting the exact same issue with bootloops with the stock kernel(in my case I used the shooter ice kernel to get it to boot) and I'm S-OFF/GSM so I'm pretty sure the issue isn't HBOOT related.
Same here
I have the same issue. I use 4ext with smartflash for recovery. I'm able to flash any GB rom I want, but when I try an ICS rom with a stock kernel I get the boot looping. Is there any other way to make this work? I don't want to dig into the brick/unbrick business if I can help it. I have also tried using Flash Img GUI and fastboot/adb to flash the kernel with the exact same results. Any information on this would help, but a solution would be fantastic!
._. I see what's going on... It's GSM users trying to flash CDMA kernels once again.
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What I did was use the new s off for 1.50 and once I got that done I was able to flash any ics Rom I want . Look for it in the development section.
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ccr515 said:
What I did was use the new s off for 1.50 and once I got that done I was able to flash any ics Rom I want . Look for it in the development section.
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+1 to this. The stock Ics kernel does not do well with 1.5 s-on. Since you cannot downgrade to 1.4 s-off, you should try the new 1.5 s-off method. Otherwise you have to use a custom kernel which is not 100% yet.
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coal686 said:
+1 to this. The stock Ics kernel does not do well with 1.5 s-on. Since you cannot downgrade to 1.4 s-off, you should try the new 1.5 s-off method. Otherwise you have to use a custom kernel which is not 100% yet.
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Seems like no stock ics kernels like 1.4 hboot period with or without s-off. None would work for me until i updated my hboot to 1.5 and had s-off.
smokin1337 said:
Seems like no stock ics kernels like 1.4 hboot period with or without s-off. None would work for me until i updated my hboot to 1.5 and had s-off.
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I've been running 1.4 s-off since the downgrade method came available and have never had an issue with any ics ROMs.
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Can someone post a link to the new S-Off method for hboot 1.5?
MakeMeFibonacci said:
Can someone post a link to the new S-Off method for hboot 1.5?
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Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585846
I recommend you read all about it first as you have to connect two contact points on your phone using insulated wire, which sounds kind of dangerous.
coal686 said:
Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585846
I recommend you read all about it first as you have to connect two contact points on your phone using insulated wire, which sounds kind of dangerous.
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The hboot downgrade seems a lot less scary for sure. In all honesty it was ez and took me less than 30 mins but to each his own
I'm a little confused about this. I have a "ported" ICS ROM running and I have H-Boot 1.4 with S-Off.
Do I need to update the hboot before flashing a ICS Rom based on the new Spring release?
No, you don't need to.
luis4ever said:
No, you don't need to.
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actually yes or you will just bootloop
t3project said:
actually yes or you will just bootloop
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Yea from all the threads, it seems like you need the new hboot or the new roms don't work. I would just wait a few days, I'm sure someone will figure out how to get it to work without the new hboot
Specifically, from what MikeyXDA says, the new kernel looks for the 1.58 hboot and refuses to boot otherwise. So, you can use a ROM based on the ota if it contains the VM leak kernel, not the new kernel.
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coal686 said:
Specifically, from what MikeyXDA says, the new kernel looks for the 1.58 hboot and refuses to boot otherwise. So, you can use a ROM based on the ota if it contains the VM leak kernel, not the new kernel.
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So with that being true. Is it ok to flip flop
Between hboot 1.40 and 1.58
mmguru22 said:
So with that being true. Is it ok to flip flop
Between hboot 1.40 and 1.58
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If you are s-off, you can switch hboot anytime you want. What I'm unclear on is if taking the new firmware keeps older ICS and GB ROMs from booting. I've yet to see a definitive answer.
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coal686 said:
Specifically, from what MikeyXDA says, the new kernel looks for the 1.58 hboot and refuses to boot otherwise. So, you can use a ROM based on the ota if it contains the VM leak kernel, not the new kernel.
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Or a custom kernel
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Or a custom kernel
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From the OP of the "custom kernel", I was under the impression that it also needs the newest hboot. So I assume you mean an older version?
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coal686 said:
If you are s-off, you can switch hboot anytime you want. What I'm unclear on is if taking the new firmware keeps older ICS and GB ROMs from booting. I've yet to see a definitive answer.
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I upgraded my firmware and I can't run older roms without bootlooping. Only thing I can run that gives me no problems is anything built off the new base.
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I upgraded my firmware and I can't run older roms without bootlooping. Only thing I can run that gives me no problems is anything built off the new base.
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And I've heard the opposite from others. They said they upgraded and everything on GB and ICS leak ROMs work fine. I'm holding off until ramjet does his testing.
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This my request to someone that have try ICS custom ROM please share your experience here, what H-Boot for booting up the ROM...
So please be specific with custom ROM name and version, will be great if you also give release date...
This will help, cuz sometimes even we read whole thread we can't find what h-boot needed. And if we post question, sometime nobody reply your question cuz your question to nooblish..
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I think this belongs in the General section since you are not asking a question!
spirithandler said:
I think this belongs in the General section since you are not asking a question!
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Hope anyone can share here, and if moderator want move this topic, so be it... Lolz
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This thread has a lot of information on hboots:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817513
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coal686 said:
This thread has a lot of information on hboots:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817513
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I think we have a miss understand here, maybe my English is not good. I use e3d just 1 month so i to afraid playing with hboot, here i ask for custom ROM that be used on hboot 1.40, i have try newest of meanROM, viper/venom, ARHD, and no of that custom rom can be booted up even i use custom kernel..
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cupliz said:
I think we have a miss understand here, maybe my English is not good. I use e3d just 1 month so i to afraid playing with hboot, here i ask for custom ROM that be used on hboot 1.40, i have try newest of meanROM, viper/venom, ARHD, and no of that custom rom can be booted up even i use custom kernel..
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Any Rom can be used on 1.4 as long as it doesn't include the newest kernel. The bootloops are probably caused by being s-on.
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coal686 said:
Any Rom can be used on 1.4 as long as it doesn't include the newest kernel. The bootloops are probably caused by being s-on.
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That the problem, i have try alot of custom rom that based on official ics with custom kernel with no luck. the one can booted up greatly is homebrew ROM.
Im on revolutionary s-off hboot 1.40.
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cupliz said:
That the problem, i have try alot of custom rom that based on official ics with custom kernel with no luck. the one can booted up greatly is homebrew ROM.
Im on revolutionary s-off hboot 1.40.
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I'm on the same hboot s-off. I use homebrew, negalite, zr3dx, Meanrom, and common sense.
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I'm on the same hboot s-off. I use homebrew, negalite, zr3dx, Meanrom, and common sense.
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Strange, im try venom/viper, meanrom, arhd, with no luck (after flash rom, i wipe d-cache+cache than flash custom kernel) still boot looping...
Ps: just using common sens and love it..
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Because I am an S-On with Hboot 1.15 unlocked, will I have to flash MeanRom 3.4 or earlier to successfully flash the rom? Sorry if this has been discussed, but I looked through and couldnt find this or an answer. I am new to the EVO LTE, as I am coming off the 3VO and only two days into ownership of my LTEvo.
Thanks
GLand49 said:
Because I am an S-On with Hboot 1.15 unlocked, will I have to flash MeanRom 3.4 or earlier to successfully flash the rom? Sorry if this has been discussed, but I looked through and couldnt find this or an answer. I am new to the EVO LTE, as I am coming off the 3VO and only two days into ownership of my LTEvo.
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the latest rom is fine, just be sure to let it finish completely, it will hang on flash when installing kernel and then boot and it may hang again but wait for it to reboot on its own, this is when kernel is installed, then it will hang once more, just let it do its thing
GLand49 said:
Because I am an S-On with Hboot 1.15 unlocked, will I have to flash MeanRom 3.4 or earlier to successfully flash the rom? Sorry if this has been discussed, but I looked through and couldnt find this or an answer. I am new to the EVO LTE, as I am coming off the 3VO and only two days into ownership of my LTEvo.
Thanks
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And if you want to OC to 1.7 (why wouldn't you) you have to either use flash image gui or fastboot to flash the custom kernel, it will be located on your internal sd in the "Mean rom " folder. If you need any more help shoot me a pm
Thanks for help, I'm always a little skeptical to flash and this being my first on a brand new phone made me nervous. So thanks again, I did flash 4.5 and running smooth as ever (OC 1.7 of course).
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GLand49 said:
Thanks for help, I'm always a little skeptical to flash and this being my first on a brand new phone made me nervous. So thanks again, I did flash 4.5 and running smooth as ever (OC 1.7 of course).
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No problem bro