I'm a little confused about this. I have a "ported" ICS ROM running and I have H-Boot 1.4 with S-Off.
Do I need to update the hboot before flashing a ICS Rom based on the new Spring release?
No, you don't need to.
luis4ever said:
No, you don't need to.
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actually yes or you will just bootloop
t3project said:
actually yes or you will just bootloop
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Yea from all the threads, it seems like you need the new hboot or the new roms don't work. I would just wait a few days, I'm sure someone will figure out how to get it to work without the new hboot
Specifically, from what MikeyXDA says, the new kernel looks for the 1.58 hboot and refuses to boot otherwise. So, you can use a ROM based on the ota if it contains the VM leak kernel, not the new kernel.
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Specifically, from what MikeyXDA says, the new kernel looks for the 1.58 hboot and refuses to boot otherwise. So, you can use a ROM based on the ota if it contains the VM leak kernel, not the new kernel.
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So with that being true. Is it ok to flip flop
Between hboot 1.40 and 1.58
mmguru22 said:
So with that being true. Is it ok to flip flop
Between hboot 1.40 and 1.58
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If you are s-off, you can switch hboot anytime you want. What I'm unclear on is if taking the new firmware keeps older ICS and GB ROMs from booting. I've yet to see a definitive answer.
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coal686 said:
Specifically, from what MikeyXDA says, the new kernel looks for the 1.58 hboot and refuses to boot otherwise. So, you can use a ROM based on the ota if it contains the VM leak kernel, not the new kernel.
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Or a custom kernel
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Or a custom kernel
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From the OP of the "custom kernel", I was under the impression that it also needs the newest hboot. So I assume you mean an older version?
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coal686 said:
If you are s-off, you can switch hboot anytime you want. What I'm unclear on is if taking the new firmware keeps older ICS and GB ROMs from booting. I've yet to see a definitive answer.
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I upgraded my firmware and I can't run older roms without bootlooping. Only thing I can run that gives me no problems is anything built off the new base.
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I upgraded my firmware and I can't run older roms without bootlooping. Only thing I can run that gives me no problems is anything built off the new base.
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And I've heard the opposite from others. They said they upgraded and everything on GB and ICS leak ROMs work fine. I'm holding off until ramjet does his testing.
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Related
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...id-4-0-build-3-11-605-22-for-the-htc-rezound/
Not the final but another leak with a new radio. Hopefully this means the OTA is close and im praying we finally get some custom kernels. Wish we could flash the radio seperatly though.
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Not the final but another leak with a new radio. Hopefully this means the OTA is close and im praying we finally get some custom kernels. Wish we could flash the radio seperatly though.
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You CAN flash the radio separately... but I believe you still need to lock the phone first and flash the firmware.img file inside a PH98IMG.zip at HBOOT.
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You CAN flash the radio separately... but I believe you still need to lock the phone first and flash the firmware.img file inside a PH98IMG.zip at HBOOT.
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I thought we needed s-off to do that? When the OTA comes i will relock and update then flash a rooted custom rom lol.t
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You CAN flash the radio separately... but I believe you still need to lock the phone first and flash the firmware.img file inside a PH98IMG.zip at HBOOT.
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no point since the radio hasn't changed only a newer build.
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I thought we needed s-off to do that? When the OTA comes i will relock and update then flash a rooted custom rom lol.t
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No.. I believe you need S-OFF to flash it from recovery, or to flash it without first re-locking your phone and doing it from HBOOT.
Can we RUU back if there are issues with this build?
Im not updating until this goes final but how do we relock the device? I assume after we upgrade we can unlock again?
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no point since the radio hasn't changed only a newer build.
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You appear to be correct... Even though it does say it includes new radios in the original post, the screenshot clearly shows the same radio versions that I currently have on my phone after updating the radio with con's PH98IMG.zip from the last OTA..
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Im not updating until this goes final but how do we relock the device? I assume after we upgrade we can unlock again?
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Yes, you would just have to go through the procedure at HTC dev again to unlock.
to relock in fast boot at a command prompt fastboot oem lock.
and that will relock it .
Sense 3.6? GTFO! I was hoping for 4.0 =[
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Sense 3.6? GTFO! I was hoping for 4.0 =[
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yep I figured they wouldn't release ever since they announced the one series of phones.
we will not see sense 4.0 because of the HTC One Series phones.
Once those are released, we have a ten fold better chance at seeing sense 4.0..Officially..
we will be getting sense 4.0 as a ROM that's stable and nice, IMO, soon.
So the phone has to be stock, not unlocked..and I can install ics that easy? Any riskz?
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No.. I believe you need S-OFF to flash it from recovery, or to flash it without first re-locking your phone and doing it from HBOOT.
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This is my understanding as well. S-Off is just a "bonus". All other stuff can be done through Fastboot is my belief.
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Sense 3.6? GTFO! I was hoping for 4.0 =[
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That's what htc said all current phones that get ics will have. Only one series gets 4.0.
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You appear to be correct... Even though it does say it includes new radios in the original post, the screenshot clearly shows the same radio versions that I currently have on my phone after updating the radio with con's PH98IMG.zip from the last OTA..
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Just to let u guys know the screenshot is incorrect for whatever reason. I updated to the new leak and it does have new radios. I don't know how to post a screenshot but the baseband version now shows 1.22.10.0310r, 1.22.10.0308r. Also, new PRI version is 1.16_002, 2.07_002.
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This is my understanding as well. S-Off is just a "bonus". All other stuff can be done through Fastboot is my belief.
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I completely dissagree.
as unlocked is great, as we have root.
s-off is desirebale, and this is why,
with s-off, you can flash radio's in hboot, you can't do that with s-on, you must install the OTA, RUU.
but I do agree that unlocking us is a very good thing, but s-off does have many more benefits.
with s-off we could flash the new ICS firmware, and if you didn't like it flash back to GB OTA.
withs-on, if you flash that "leak" firmware, (or any other firmware, radio,hboot) you are now stuck on them.
The main things I miss from having an s-off phone was these,
1) flashing anything and everything I wanted, I could accept OTA, flash hboots, flash radios, whatever I wanted.
this was thanks to the XTC clip and having s-off.
i miss s-off.
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Just to let u guys know the screenshot is incorrect for whatever reason. I updated to the new leak and it does have new radios. I don't know how to post a screenshot but the baseband version now shows 1.22.10.0310r, 1.22.10.0308r. Also, new PRI version is 1.16_002, 2.07_002.
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hold home + power to take a screen shot, then attach the pic. in a post, by pressing "manage attachments" down below in "additional options"
Has there been any issues with this update? I heard that apps to sd card wasn't working and MMS was having issues sending. Anybody know for sure?
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I completely dissagree.
as unlocked is great, as we have root.
s-off is desirebale, and this is why,
with s-off, you can flash radio's in hboot, you can't do that with s-on, you must install the OTA, RUU.
but I do agree that unlocking us is a very good thing, but s-off does have many more benefits.
with s-off we could flash the new ICS firmware, and if you didn't like it flash back to GB OTA.
withs-on, if you flash that "leak" firmware, (or any other firmware, radio,hboot) you are now stuck on them.
The main things I miss from having an s-off phone was these,
1) flashing anything and everything I wanted, I could accept OTA, flash hboots, flash radios, whatever I wanted.
this was thanks to the XTC clip and having s-off.
i miss s-off.
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Thanks for clarifying this. So what you are saying is even with the MainVer "fix" (setting to low) we can't flash a GB RUU after we flash an ICS RUU?
If so then I was misinformed or interpreted my research improperly. I was under the impression that we could still do whatever we wanted even though doing so might require additional steps.
TIA
Edit: Apparently this is looking bleak. Doesn't appear as if you can downgrade the RUU. This was apparently tried unsuccessfully as discussed in the Scott's Rom thread. Really sucks and is a great reason why S-off is needed. Not that you would want to downgrade but this is MY phone dammit'.
Edit 2: Good News. Scrosler just flashed back to a GB Rom and had no issues other then the "SD Card" issue which he stated was an "easy" fix. This still doesn't allow for a radio downgrade but apparently the new radios are still compatible with the GB ROM's. LINK
I recently rooted my EVO 3D running hboot 1.4.00 s-off and I am planning on flashing an ICS rom. Do I need to update the kernel to an ICS kernel before flashing an ICS ROM?
Well the ICS Roms already have ICS kernels built into them so you should be good to go unless you want a custom kernel.
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I recently rooted my EVO 3D running hboot 1.4.00 s-off and I am planning on flashing an ICS rom. Do I need to update the kernel to an ICS kernel before flashing an ICS ROM?
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Since you are on Hboot 1.4, the kernel will flash when you flash the ROM. You do not need to flash the kernel separately unless you choose a custom one (I'm digging dodova's stock kernel right now- great performance and battery life and very stable).
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coal686 said:
Since you are on Hboot 1.4, the kernel will flash when you flash the ROM. You do not need to flash the kernel separately unless you choose a custom one (I'm digging dodova's stock kernel right now- great performance and battery life and very stable).
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Wanted to clarify this post. Having Hboot 1.4 doesn't allow you to flash kernals through recovery, being S-OFF does. If you were on 1.4 and had S-On, you wouldn't be able to flash kernals through recovery with a ROM.
Also, these should really be posted in the Q/A sub forum. Just a note for next time OP.
Thanks
Appreciate the quick response from both of you and the recommendation. I'll check it out. Thank you.
Will do.
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Wanted to clarify this post. Having Hboot 1.4 doesn't allow you to flash kernals through recovery, being S-OFF does. If you were on 1.4 and had S-On, you wouldn't be able to flash kernals through recovery with a ROM.
Also, these should really be posted in the Q/A sub forum. Just a note for next time OP.
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Oops yeah when I came back into the forums I realized I started it in the wrong spot. I'll try to be more observant next time. Thanks for the clarification.
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Oops yeah when I came back into the forums I realized I started it in the wrong spot. I'll try to be more observant next time. Thanks for the clarification.
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tgruendler said:
Wanted to clarify this post. Having Hboot 1.4 doesn't allow you to flash kernals through recovery, being S-OFF does. If you were on 1.4 and had S-On, you wouldn't be able to flash kernals through recovery with a ROM.
Also, these should really be posted in the Q/A sub forum. Just a note for next time OP.
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Both thanked for not trolling each other on the misplacement of a post.
tgruendler said:
Wanted to clarify this post. Having Hboot 1.4 doesn't allow you to flash kernals through recovery, being S-OFF does.
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I know what I meant! Chalk that one up to newborn, lack of sleep baby brain.
I'm currently rooted and I'm running team viper 1.03. However, I updated previously to the leaked ICS 5-7 firmware which came with some pretty crappy radios for me. I use to get much higher 4g speeds, and I'd like to return to the gingerbread ones. I saw this thread and I was wondering if it was safe to flash these firmwares here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614366
There's no mention about s-on anywhere so I'm not sure.
Sorry, you need to be s-off to flash these
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yeah, you're going to want to use the jbear S-OFFmethod at http://unlimited.io to S-OFF your phone first
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I'm currently rooted and I'm running team viper 1.03. However, I updated previously to the leaked ICS 5-7 firmware which came with some pretty crappy radios for me. I use to get much higher 4g speeds, and I'd like to return to the gingerbread ones. I saw this thread and I was wondering if it was safe to flash these firmwares here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614366
There's no mention about s-on anywhere so I'm not sure.
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The first line on that thread. - S-OFF DEVICES ONLY
S-OFF was very easy to do and really is worth the few minutes that it takes. Just make sure you download the correct version for your firmware.
mjones73 said:
The first line on that thread. - S-OFF DEVICES ONLY
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I added that afterwards so don't blame him
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Damnit man! Just kidding.
OP, sorry about that
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I been running mean rom and now my phone is incapable of upgradeing past 3.4 do to the system update. I am debating to ruu back to stock and then take the ota so I can contenue updateing my meanrom. only issue I have with doing this. I want s-off and I don't know which may be cracked first. I suppose its better to just stay on 1.15 hboot and update if they cracked 1.19 first.
IMHO. Logic would dictate that the one that's been around longer (1.15) should be the first to cracks but you never know.
Personally I would wait giving yourself the option.
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Wait. OTAs are the devil bobby
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Wait. OTAs are the devil bobby
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nevermind I don't need to do a ota. I know my phone I can do mostly anything the a s-off person can do just have a couple more leaps to do it. Flash gui image allows me to flash radios kenals and hboots. without doing the ota. only thing I think is I cant downgrade to a previous hboot.. not worried though I just updated to the newest mean rom.
No you can't do radios or firmware.
I'd strongly recommend kernels through fastboot and not the app
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No you can't do radios or firmware.
I'd strongly recommend kernels through fastboot and not the app
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i am now on 2.13.651.1 with hboot 1.15 s-on sorry i was wrong on flashing hboot bto 1.19 did not want to do that yet thought it was my only option when I updated to 2.13.651.1 how does one know what radio I am running I thought when flashing the mean rom 3.6 all that stuff was included. I like to check what radio I am running.
I have had no issues with installing kernals with this app. I know I can take the kernel put it on my computer adb folder and install using adb interface.
I was wrong I just got update tp 2.13.651.1 radio and hboot uneffected I am not to worried no lte here in st louis so I can wait
No, roms don't include radios. And if you are on hboot 1.15 you can't update radios so you are stuck with whatever one you got until you take the OTA (dont do that) or soff is found
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HBOOT-1.58.0000
Radio-1.09.00.0706
By downloading a lower hboot version and renaming it to PG86IMG in all caps, placing it on the root of your sdcard. Boot into bootloader and letting your phone detect the file and update. Just remember though lower hboots don't play nice with the new ics kernel so be sure you have a copy of 1.58 in case.
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By downloading a lower hboot version and renaming it to PG86IMG in all caps, placing it on the root of your sdcard. Boot into bootloader and letting your phone detect the file and update. Just remember though lower hboots don't play nice with the new ics kernel so be sure you have a copy of 1.58 in case.
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How do i get a custom rom with out downgrading hboot?
Pedro1760 said:
How do i get a custom rom with out downgrading hboot?
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You should be able to flash any custom ROM that is sense ICS. If you want AOSP, CM, or GB ROMs, you'll need to downgrade.
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Custom roms don't come with hboots in them. Do your research before you ask noob questions like that. Roms with the new ics kernel are compatible with only 1.58. For instance you flash cm9 which is a aosp Rom with your hboot 1.58 your gonna end up in a boot loop. This question has already been answered. Search the forums first because you will more than likely find the answer. That way you won't end up flooding this forum with nonsense threads. No offense.
This guy "jsparta". What's w the attitude dude. If u gonna answer a question answer it w respect or don't answer at all. Seriously. U doggin on newbs like that??? What ? U a dev? Got a rom ??
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Seriously u all up on this questions w some form of negative attitude on an answer .
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coal686 said:
You should be able to flash any custom ROM that is sense ICS. If you want AOSP, CM, or GB ROMs, you'll need to downgrade.
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Would you help me downgrade as you know im a noob i had been trying to root over the last months and barely got it
Pedro1760 said:
Would you help me downgrade as you know im a noob i had been trying to root over the last months and barely got it
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Once you find one, rename it to PG86IMG.zip and place it on the root of your sd card. Boot into bootloader and update to that hboot. You should then be able to flash the ROM you want.
EDIT: Got my hboots mixed up. :banghead:
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coal686 said:
I'm CDMA so I don't have copies of GSM hboots. Once you find one to downgrade to (someone who is GSM can tell you which), rename it to PG86IMG.zip and place it on the root of your sd card. Boot into bootloader and update to that hboot. You should then be able to flash the ROM you want.
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From what i read around cdma is sprint if so im cdma???????????
Never mind thanks for everyone who helped love yall
Pedro1760 said:
From what i read around cdma is sprint if so im cdma???????????
Never mind thanks for everyone who helped love yall
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Sorry bro. I mixed up my hboot numbers again. Chalk it up to tired brain from having a six month old. Here are the hboots for CDMA. I recommend 1.4 since that's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30014044
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coal686 said:
Sorry bro. I mixed up my hboot numbers again. Chalk it up to tired brain from having a six month old. Here are the hboots for CDMA. I recommend 1.4 since that's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30014044
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Thanks for all your time and help and i got it now with the rom and **** i want thanks again love u
one more question whats one of the best roms right now? for my hboot 1.4
Pedro1760 said:
one more question whats one of the best roms right now? for my hboot 1.4
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Depends on what you're looking for. In my opinion:
Tweaked stock look: Homebrew
Sense majorly themed: ZR3dXL
Sense with AOSP theming: Common Sense AOSP
Senseless: D3rp's Bareback ROM or Desensification
There's also SOS which uses an installer that let's you select how Senseless you want the ROM.
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Depends on what you're looking for. In my opinion:
Tweaked stock look: Homebrew
Sense majorly themed: ZR3dXL
Sense with AOSP theming: Common Sense AOSP
Senseless: D3rp's Bareback ROM or Desensification
There's also SOS which uses an installer that let's you select how Senseless you want the ROM.
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Any links please thanks man!!!!!!
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Any links please thanks man!!!!!!
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I'm on my phone so linking is a pita. My web signature has some links, but you can find them all in the CDMA development section.
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I'm on my phone so linking is a pita. My web signature has some links, but you can find them all in the CDMA development section.
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but the ones you have in your sig are for the newere version of the htc evo 3d ???
Pedro1760 said:
but the ones you have in your sig are for the newere version of the htc evo 3d ???
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All of the ones I gave you will flash on the 1.4 hboot. It's the hboot I use.
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