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Hi there friends, just upgraded firmware from KE8 to KF3, and have lost root. So have to root again. Pls confirm if the procedure for rooting and removing the yellow triangle after root is exactly the same as done before using CF method? Are these the kernels to use:
Kernel to flash while rooting with Odin: CF-Root-SGS2_XW_CLK_KF3-v4.0-CWM4.tar
and for reverting to stock kernel to remove yellow triangle : I9100XWKF3_Kernel.tar (Intratech's thread)
If you confirm that the above two files are the correct ones, I'll go ahead and root. Pls advice. Thanks & Cheers!
Yes just follow instructions
jje
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Ok. Done already. I guess if you've done it once, you can do it n number of times. Was just being careful Now to find out what are the changes in the new KF3 version. Will check the threads already there on KF3 now. Cheers!
Just one question, now the flashing counter would show the number as 2...right? Since this is the second time I've flashed. Does this flash counter have any significance? If so, then what? Is there any limit to the number of times I can flash or are they limitless?
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Just one question, now the flashing counter would show the number as 2...right? Since this is the second time I've flashed. Does this flash counter have any significance? If so, then what? Is there any limit to the number of times I can flash or are they limitless?
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Limitless 1 voids your warranty 2 voids your warranty etc. etc.
jje
Is there a way to root w/o upping the flash counter?
EarlZ said:
Is there a way to root w/o upping the flash counter?
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I guess, there isn't. But I believe you can set back the counter to zero again using jigs. There are much more knowledgeable people here on this forum regarding this subject, they'll correct me if I'm wrong.
Reset Binary custom rom counter post in dev sections .
basics are use the usb recovery jig to boot and it clears the counter to zero .
jje
Hi all.
My SGS2 needs to be sent in for repairs in the imminent future, and in preparation I unrooted my phone and flashed a Stock ICS build (my carrier is Optus, Australia). Before this I was running a few different GB roms. When I boot my phone I do not get the yellow triangle (I assume this is because I am running official Samsung firmware), but if I put the phone into download mode, it still shows the 8 custom flashes I did earlier.
My real question is will Chainfire's Triangle Away app remove the binary count even if the triangle isn't there?
And a better question would be, would having official firmware be enough to still claim warranty, or would I need to have both official firmware and a "0" custom flash count?
Thanks for any help!
I believe Samsung may throw a stink about the counter, even if you are on stock/official firmware. This counter would imply that you have voided your warranty previous to the current state of the phone and it's OS
To be safe I would use the Triangle away app
EDIT: Yes, the app does reset the flash counter. See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
Its always safe to clear the counter before returning it for service. yes the triangle away app will clear the counter with/without triangle.
download it for free from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
sdardz said:
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
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You are correct. Root the phone first, use the app, then unroot.
Thanks!
So it will still think it's Samsung official after that process?
You'll need a rooted ICS firmware already on your phone.
Check the Triangle Away forum to ensure its working with your firmware version.
Flash Triangle Away, this will remove Yellow Triangle and reset Custom Counter to 0.
Flash official unrooted firmware using Odin, this wont increase your Custom Counter as its official. Use a firmware thats specific to your region.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Job done.
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Thanks! This forum is full of amazing help.
So theoretically I could follow those steps then flash the stock ROM a thousand times and the flash counter would remain at 0?
If it makes you feel any better I went to Optus 3 weeks ago with a phone that wouldn't turn on with ICS for another region with root and they fixed it.
I think my USB jig cleared the counter to 0 though. I couldn't connect my phone to dl mode or anything
The app removes the triangle as well as the counter
Yeah I tried using the jig a while ago but I think I have the newer bootloader, so it didn't do anything, which was very disappointing.
I'd just hate to take it in then have them tell me to get bent because I rom'ed it.
Ok so let me know if theres a problem with my process.
I'm using ICS and the kernel is XWLP4.
There was no LP4 in Chainfires thread but I read that I could use the next closest one. So I should flash something like "CF-Root-SGS2_XW_O2U_LP3-v5.4-CWM5.zip" and then triangle away then use the Optus stock ICS?
UPDAT: I tried this method and it worked perfectly! Thanks so much to everyone who helped.
has worked like a charm for me everytime i put stock firmwares on my phone
Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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Or just flash the old bootloader.
My wife's S3 keeps getting the clipboard bug, so she finally agreed to let me root it. However I don't want to increment the flash counter or use Triangle-away. I notice the US-based S3 models have su and SuperSu injected to stock kernels/recoveries so those can be flashed directly from stock recovery, any such thing for the international i9300 (currently on 4.1.1)?
When I rooted my S2 a year ago I used heimdall (Linux) and didn't bother much about the counter, while my recent Galaxy Tab 7.7 root used the original built-in recovery and was dirt-easy (along with not modifying anything stock). Is there anyway to do similar on the S3?
Use triangle away after root to reset flash counter
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why do you care about the counter?
warranty? well, they'll deny you warranty if you're rooted anyway
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Use triangle away after root to reset flash counter
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I'm looking for a way which won't require that.
Glebun said:
why do you care about the counter?
warranty? well, they'll deny you warranty if you're rooted anyway
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They can't deny warranty if they don't know. If the counter is clean I can just delete SuperSu.apk and su and there'll be no trace.
Regardless, this isn't primarily about warranty, as I've gotten my rooted (yellow triangle) S2 warrantied here before. My wife wants as low-risk an approach as possible, and I'm simply trying not to get into trouble
you can delete supersu later, sure, but you can also reset the counter later. what's the point of doing it now? the counter had nothing to do with safety.
and triangle away is the only way to reset the counter AFAIK, what's the problem with it?
INFO Warranty items to look for Apps requiring root >> Root or its tools >> Custom rom Counter above zero >> Rom status not official >> rom Odin status Custom .
Suggest you look in Development at the various root methods one without increasing rom counter it might be via Mobile Odin .
jje
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you can delete supersu later, sure, but you can also reset the counter later. what's the point of doing it now? the counter had nothing to do with safety.
and triangle away is the only way to reset the counter AFAIK, what's the problem with it?
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As I said, I don't have a problem with it...
JJEgan said:
INFO Warranty items to look for Apps requiring root >> Root or its tools >> Custom rom Counter above zero >> Rom status not official >> rom Odin status Custom .
Suggest you look in Development at the various root methods one without increasing rom counter it might be via Mobile Odin .
jje
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Getting mobile odin on requires root in the first place I think, so that's a bit of a catch 22.
You cannot reset the counter if you don't use TA.
what's risk are you talking about?
Yeah... what's wrong with just rooting, then TA?
If ever you need warranty, odin a stock rom and you're golden.
Hi All,I'd be greatful if someone can advise me. My phones counter has changed to 1 annoyed because i wasn't on custom firmware or rooted at the time, i just reset my normal official firmware and the counter went up to 1. i need to change it back to 0 but it seems to be much harder than previous when ive done this.I rooted the s3 and have a custom firware on it just so i could install triangle away and reset the counter but the counter wont go below 1 anymore.i have tried to pull the battery just before the samsung logo s3 but its not working this time. I understand a stock recovery/bootloader would enable the counter to set to 0 without having to try and pull the battery. I am currently running team win recovery project 2.3.3.0.Anyone know where i get the stock from which I can run while rooted I assume or any other helpful tips?CheersFei
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Read the return to stock for warranty post.
jje
fatfei said:
Hi All,I'd be greatful if someone can advise me. My phones counter has changed to 1 annoyed because i wasn't on custom firmware or rooted at the time, i just reset my normal official firmware and the counter went up to 1. i need to change it back to 0 but it seems to be much harder than previous when ive done this.I rooted the s3 and have a custom firware on it just so i could install triangle away and reset the counter but the counter wont go below 1 anymore.i have tried to pull the battery just before the samsung logo s3 but its not working this time. I understand a stock recovery/bootloader would enable the counter to set to 0 without having to try and pull the battery. I am currently running team win recovery project 2.3.3.0.Anyone know where i get the stock from which I can run while rooted I assume or any other helpful tips?CheersFei
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What state do you want the phone to be in? Do you want to continue running modified with counter of 0, or do you want to return to full stock with counter of 0?
There are several guides here on exactly how to do this, search and read for the full info.
To my knowledge you will have to downgrade your bootloader to the ICS version before factory reset, run triangle away then immediately flash stock recovery and ROM from Odin.
I've not done the above myself, so I'd recommend you read up first.
rootSU said:
What state do you want the phone to be in? Do you want to continue running modified with counter of 0, or do you want to return to full stock with counter of 0?
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I want to return to stock because it needs to go to the shop. But the custom bootloader isnt letting the counter turn to 0 I read this is because its not stock. I tried pulling the battery before samsung logo after triangle reboots after resetting the counter but with this firmware its just not going back to zero. I understand I cant put stock firmware on until the counter is at zero because I won't be able to be rooted to use triangle.
Id just like to know what stock bootloader I should use to reset the counter. Then I can return to stock.
Thank you for replying
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There are several guides here on exactly how to do this, search and read for the full info.
To my knowledge you will have to downgrade your bootloader to the ICS version before factory reset, run triangle away then immediately flash stock recovery and ROM from Odin.
I've not done the above myself, so I'd recommend you read up first.
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Thanks that's what I thought but dont know where I get the bootloader from
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Thanks that's what I thought but dont know where I get the bootloader from
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There are 2 methods.
1) Reset with triangle away and interupt reboot (pull battery immediately after Triangle away). This may take several attempts to get right. Then you boot into download mode. If binary counter is "0" (regardless of modified status = custom) then flash via odin
2) Flash an old bootloader (4.1.1) which you can get from any 4.1.1 official ROM on sammobile.com. There is a link to an ics bootloader in my SDS thread at the very bottom of the post too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091045
rootSU said:
There are 2 methods.
1) Reset with triangle away and interupt reboot (pull battery immediately after Triangle away). This may take several attempts to get right. Then you boot into download mode. If binary counter is "0" (regardless of modified status = custom) then flash via odin
2) Flash an old bootloader (4.1.1) which you can get from any 4.1.1 official ROM on sammobile.com. There is a link to an ics bootloader in my SDS thread at the very bottom of the post too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091045
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installed the other cfw and managed to reset the counter to 0 but this is my problem having checked a few times the counter went back up to 1 . it did this when i was in stock yesterday hence why i have had to do all this. Why is it counting up on its own?
fatfei said:
installed the other cfw and managed to reset the counter to 0 but this is my problem having checked a few times the counter went back up to 1 . it did this when i was in stock yesterday hence why i have had to do all this. Why is it counting up on its own?
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Bootloaders since 4.1.2 and some 4.1.1 count the binary at every boot, which is why you must flash an ICS bootloader.
You also need to ensure you have stock kernel, stock recovery.
IMHO the best process would be:
Flash full stock with ODIN now.
Root with CF-AUTO root (must be AUTO) as this doesnt modify kernel or recovery
Then you should be able to triangle away and not go back to 1 on reboot.n ***If still not reset, flash ICS bootloader, then try triangle away again.
Flash stock again
rootSU said:
Bootloaders since 4.1.2 and some 4.1.1 count the binary at every boot, which is why you must flash an ICS bootloader.
You also need to ensure you have stock kernel, stock recovery.
IMHO the best process would be:
Flash full stock with ODIN now.
Root with CF-AUTO root (must be AUTO) as this doesnt modify kernel or recovery
Then you should be able to triangle away and not go back to 1 on reboot.n ***If still not reset, flash ICS bootloader, then try triangle away again.
Flash stock again
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I flashed with CF-Auto-Root-m0-m0xx-gti9300.tar.md5 and run triangle but everytime a remove battery successfully and restart it immediately goesinto boot loader again where i have to reboot if i want to load the rom at which point the exclamation comes back
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I flashed with CF-Auto-Root-m0-m0xx-gti9300.tar.md5 and run triangle but everytime a remove battery successfully and restart it immediately goesinto boot loader again where i have to reboot if i want to load the rom at which point the exclamation comes back
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From a completely STOCK, unrooted ROM?
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From a completely STOCK, unrooted ROM?
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Sorry i am getting so confused with firmwares, roms and bootloaders now ive got totally confused. I'll read up on everything again to try and get an understand because i don't want to waste your time and ask something silly. As it stands this is where i am. i have installed cf auto root, used triangle and pulled battery and immediatly gone into download mode where the counter is saying no. Which is good. I was now intending to install the official rom from sammy for uk
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Sorry i am getting so confused with firmwares, roms and bootloaders now ive got totally confused. I'll read up on everything again to try and get an understand because i don't want to waste your time and ask something silly. As it stands this is where i am. i have installed cf auto root, used triangle and pulled battery and immediatly gone into download mode where the counter is saying no. Which is good. I was now intending to install the official rom from sammy for uk
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Yeah have a look on teh last page. I think to give us a clean starting point, you should flash back to stock first, then CF auto root...
rootSU said:
Yeah have a look on teh last page. I think to give us a clean starting point, you should flash back to stock first, then CF auto root...
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yeah agrred. Thanks mate
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yeah agrred. Thanks mate
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Okay i re-installed the stock rom from the download mode i was already on then hard reset after from bootloader, the red exclamation mark has gone, the count says no still and the device status in settings is saying normal. so i assume this is fit to go back to the shop. I dont know why the count went up on its own in the first place, my phone just freaked out and started to reboot randomly and caused the count to go to 1 which is really annoying because i would have been blamed for something i didnt do.
Thank you so much for the assistance
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Okay i re-installed the stock rom from the download mode i was already on then hard reset after from bootloader, the red exclamation mark has gone, the count says no still and the device status in settings is saying normal. so i assume this is fit to go back to the shop. I dont know why the count went up on its own in the first place, my phone just freaked out and started to reboot randomly and caused the count to go to 1 which is really annoying because i would have been blamed for something i didnt do.
Thank you so much for the assistance
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no worries.
I remember there was a thread about this some time ago, but I can't find it anymore.
So, I have this red "1" on upper right corner of the screen when booting & charging the battery when phone is turned off.
Will TriangleAway work on it? If not, what will?
Read TA post and the return to stock for warranty posts for information .
jje
why does it bother you?
Glebun said:
why does it bother you?
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It doesn't really bother me, but if I had to take the phone for repair it could be a problem.
you have to use TA and be completely stock in every way for it to disappear
To remove this...TA doesn't always work because samsung has blocked latest updates from removing the red 1....but you could re flash stock and root it...it will not show the red 1 anymore
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To remove this...TA doesn't always work because samsung has blocked latest updates from removing the red 1....but you could re flash stock and root it...it will not show the red 1 anymore
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TA works but ICS Bootloaders set the counter up again at every boot.
But yeah ...
1) Full stock followed by CF AUTO root and triangle away will reset forever.
2) Flash ICS Bootloader and triangle away will reset forever.
3) Triangle away followed by interrupt boot > Flash stock
If you'r returning for warranty now, 1 or 3 are the best options. If you want no sign of it now, so you can return for warranty later, 2 is the best - but also the most risky
first option for returning to warranty? but it'll be rooted
rootSU said:
TA works but ICS Bootloaders set the counter up again at every boot.
But yeah ...
1) Full stock followed by CF AUTO root and triangle away will reset forever.
2) Flash ICS Bootloader and triangle away will reset forever.
3) Triangle away followed by interrupt boot > Flash stock
If you'r returning for warranty now, 1 or 3 are the best options. If you want no sign of it now, so you can return for warranty later, 2 is the best - but also the most risky
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Yeah very true...but some of the JB stock firmware also can be flashed and rooted via this method....i have personally tried it on 4.1.1 JB :angel::angel:
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first option for returning to warranty? but it'll be rooted
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Its an app and binary, they can be removed.
yeah, but it's not a recommended way to do it if you're returning it now
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yeah, but it's not a recommended way to do it if you're returning it now
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I don't see a problem. The Super SU app that is flashed with CF Auto Root has an unroot option that removes it's own binary. Can't think of any issues.
just seems like an extra step, there are easier options, you gave them yourself.
Yeah. 3 is fewer steps IF you can time boot interruption correctly which can be difficult.
I personally went with 2 which I think is the best option.
Option 1 is possibly the worst option but it is the easiest to do.
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