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Hey everyone, most of you will know me from the Evo 4G, I am the creator of Azrael X and Stock Turbo ROMS. I loved my Evo 4G and I loved developing ROMS for it. I was due for Upgrade in July of last year, just in time to get the Evo 3D. I was excited because of the Specs of the Evo 3D and traded "up" for my "amazing Evo 3D". To be honest, I wish I had held out for the Samsung GS-II or switched to Verizon now!
Here is the issues I have had with the Evo 3D.
My first one: I take good care of my phones, I think in all the time I had my Evo 4G I dropped it once and it was in a case so no damage. One day, I went to use my Evo 3D's camera to take a picture of something funny to send to my friends. Well, my phone became unresponsive and then my phone's display got corrupted. I tried all the troubleshooting steps, redid the phone ROM, hard reset, EVERYTHING. No dice and I heard that sometimes the camera gets disconnected and you can press real hard and it will work again. Ironically I did that and it worked once, the next day I went to use the camera and it did it again, froze the phone for a few minutes and corrupted the display. So I went to a Sprint service center and they "could not fix it, my replacement would be ordered and I can pick it up in a few days." So I get my replacement and...
I get a replacement with Hboot 1.50: Hboot 1.50 really sucks, that is all there is to it. HTC lets you root your phone...for a price! You void your warranty (not completely but it's more or less at the discretion of the Sprint employee if your covered by warranty or not if you bring it in for service with an issue) and it's not even a full root! You cannot flash kernels or radios without jumping through hoops and your phone is not S-Off. There is no current method to get S-Off with Hboot 1.50 and all attempts thus far have failed. Why could they have not just fixed my camera on my original one? This is livable with but has taken away the desire from me to develop ROMS for this phone. Then there is the....
Other issues with my replacement Evo 3D: The new one likes to restart itself randomly. It actually caused me to nearly late for work one morning because my carefully set alarm went off when it decided to restart itself. Thankfully I woke up by myself and was able to rush, get ready, and barely make it! I no longer rely on it as my alarm unless there is nothing else available. This NEVER happened with my Evo 4G, it reliably served as my alarm. Then there is...
CIQ: Sprint and HTC are spying on you; even a tinfoil hat will not prevent them from logging your phone usage. I mean, I am sure there are ways that all phones and carriers can do this, but where did I sign a form that allows them to monitor my usage? Not to mention this logging still eats up memory, CPU cycles, and battery. Even if they took this out now, not to mention developers found ways to rip out CIQ innards from the phone, this is a lameness that I cannot fathom. Then there is....
Sprint:
They removed the "Sprint Premier" program, which is really stupid. Now you have to wait 2 full years to get an upgraded phone.
The Network seems worse than ever. 4G coverage around the south suburbs of Chicago is bad at best, not there at worst. There are a couple of dead spots I always hit on the way home from work on 294.
Rude employees at Sprint. I ended up talking to a lady who kept interrupting me and laughed at me when I said something about that. I have never said, "F%$ you" to a lady on the phone until then. I actually said that and hung up, I was fuming! (UPDATE: Yes I know any company has good and bad reps and it's always a chance you will get one or the other, but she took the cake for the rudest CS rep I have dealt with from any company maybe ever. It was not just what she said, it was how she handled my questions. I should also mention she is a manager.)
Other things that I do not like about the Evo 3D.
The Speakerphone: Both Evo 3D phones I have had have mediocre speakers. The first one is way quieter and has NO bass compared to my former Evo 4G. Minor but noticeable.
The signal: This may have been "early teething" problems but my Evo 4G seemed to pull in signal much better than the Evo 3D. This could be because of premature radio and PRL updates at the time but I would be interested now to see how they compare. My Evo 4G would have 5 bars while the 3D would have 1-3 bars.
The charger port: The Evo 4G was nice because the charging port was right on the bottom of the phone. This made it easy to charge it while you mess with the phone and/or want to charge and talk at the same time. The Evo 3D has the charger port on the upper-left side. If you attempt to charge and talk, you are putting stress on your cable and the port itself. Stupid placement IMO.
Less tinker friendly: Besides the already mentioned Hboot 1.5 (partial root and partial warranty breaker) you cannot use the volume or power buttons while the cover is off. This is of course REALLY being nitpicky as there is not much need for it. But when you need access to the battery, having to take the back off every time is an extra step.
Of course, the Evo 3D is a better phone than the Evo 4G as far as hardware specs and screen quality. I just wish it was better in almost all ways instead of just specs.
The good of the Evo 3D is quite numerous of course.
The specs
The 3D features are neat
Increased memory
The screen slightly better quality
No more light bleeding like on the Evo 4G
Hboot 1.5 is a stupid means of control and I cannot believe we void our warranty for the sake of a half-ass root! I had aspirations for Azrael X 3D but honestly I feel the Evo 3D has some great ROMS already and Hboot 1.5 is a big deal breaker for me.
I might have to pass on HTC and Sprint too next time around.
More on the next post, but I want to know if anyone else has buyers (and/or Sprint) remorse lately. I am thinking of moving to "Big Red" network.
Luckily I haven't experienced any of the issues you seem to be going through. I would recommend calling or stopping by sprint and have your replacement swapped out. Who knows you might get lucky and get one with 1.4, good luck man hope it works out.
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I would definitely push them to get you a replacement, it sounds like they gave you another defective one. If they give you a hard time about it showing "relocked" shoot me a PM and I may be able to help you out.
Man what's up. I remember your Roms and work for the EVO4G. Deff top notch.
Personally I don't have buyers remorse as mine has been great here no issues hardware wise.
As for the things you mentioned with sprint itself like the premier program...I'm with ya on that 100%. Hate it that they took that away. BUT according to the Sprint Advocates group that has conf calls with execs each month, Sprint has been researching a new loyalty program to replace it with to reward those of us again. Maybe the buy your upgrade back trial program is a slight form of it, though I know they have discussed more.
As for leaving sprint if you head to big red you pretty might end up with only getting Samsung phones as they have announced their stance on bootloaders and I wouldn't be shocked to see their future HTC phones not on the unlock list...
Personally i can't beat the price here and I really want to stick around with Sprint and see these NetworkVision deployments because network wise they will improve things 10 fold in many areas. The mere backhaul improvement being done at the towers is a giant leap in itself.
S4GRU.com has a ton of very very detailed info, a lot inside info too on this. Great site btw, any Sprint customer interested in the network and such I suggest heading over there and reading the enormous amount of detailed info they have, including some spectrum analysis...
Saw you mentioned Chicago specifically so I linked the two wall posts that discuss some info on that area specifically for ya.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...nd-lte-deployment-details-emerge-for-chicago/
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
As far as the customer service, that's a shame man and you really can't defend them for that.
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Hey ric, I thought you disappeared! I used to love your 4g roms. That sucks you've had so many issues. Good to see you're alive though.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Hey, I'm in the Chicago area too and I know there can be dead spots and sprint is the slowest of the carriers it seems. Where I'm at though, service is incredible. The Crestwood area. But I can't venture out too far before I see speeds drop. Signal strength seems to stay strong everywhere I go though. And I don't even bother using 4G. I can get it at home but not much anywhere else. And with wifi at home, what's the point? But I'm still happy with the service.
The phone I love too. I dropped it a couple times while in a case, no damage. Phone doesn't reboot, everything is responsive, etc. Maybe your replacement has something wrong with it.
Now, I did see lots of problems on custom roms or kernels or both for some reason. I trust the developers know what they're doing and I'm not a developer so I don't know why there were so many issues then. I didn't try every rom or kernel, but the popular ones I did always restarted and froze on my phone. It was like clock work. So I've stuck to the stock setup with some mods on top of it and have 0 problems.
As for CIQ goes, sprint removed it in the latest update I believe. But I wouldn't put it past then if there's some other way they're tracking us. Since the removal of ciq, things perform world's better too.
I won't get too into their customer service but I have had some really friendly support and I've had some that clearly don't enjoy their job but weren't rude to me. It happens everywhere.
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Sucks that you are having so many issues, my 3d has been rock solid but sprints data in my home town is horrible. Stuck in a contract til mid 2013. Hoping to see some improvement by then with the upcoming lte. Although i dont see much about florida in their upcoming deployments. Think i read awhile back about Miami, but that was it. Best wishes to you and hope things improve for all of us with sprint issues.
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CIQ is indeed removed, since the January 13th update. Most phone manufacturers and Sprint are working with eachother to remove CIQ if it hasn't been already. Be glad you didn't go with Samsung, I've had so many with issues it's not funny. If you are mad about a camera issue on HTC, wait till you see what Samsung can give you. Late (if ever updates), radio issues, physical KB keypress skips, crashing camera, you name it (depending on the model). The SII is lambasted with problems galore, google it. It sucks that the HTC is locked down more, but IMO, it's not like a Samsung so it's not entirely necessary to root because the phone itself doesn't have major experience killing issues.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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i second this what the hell is going on nothing that was said was terrible.. explain ur reasoning >:O
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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Freedom of speech does not apply on a forum.
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"Freedom of Speech" doesn't always comply with XDA forum policies.
You mind showing us the policy and how what was said went against the policy?
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PM a mod if you have any gripes.
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You mind showing us the policy and how what was said went against the policy?
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I don't know what was said here but many of the rules here could be used to limit your speech and rightfully so. For example the rule 2.4...
Regardless PM the mod or a mod and ask, and you'll likely get an answer.
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I feel compelled to reply an I never post I have like 3 maybe IDk. Reading your post you sound very frustrated I get that been there but you are/were a custom rom developer?? How many cell carriers have you been with?
I was with Verizon for years they do not give a **** about any of their customers. They are more expensive for everything and they will nickel and dime you anyway they can. Verizon does not have blazing fast data 24/7 that covers every square inch of the USA.
They dropped sprint premiere, so what if you call sales they will upgrade you almost anytime you wanna buy a new phone an lock you down for two more years. Sprint buys back phones they always have some deal or incentive goin on. You buy a Verizon phone you aren't getting an upgrade for two yrs forget it.
Yea its not uncommon to talk to an idiot on the phone I myself as soon as I hear an accent not of the English language ask to speak someone else because I cannot understand them but you own a phone that they prob couldn't buy with their whole weeks paycheck.
I've had all the issues that you have with reboots freezes and whatnot no camera probs this is my 4th one. But hey they have replaced them with no hassle I've been offered other phones the photon for example which I passed on.
Idk what else you ask of them when they replace the defective product you can't justify getting mad at them for replacing a defective device with the lastest and least defective software.
THIS PHONE IS FAR SUPERIOR TO THE EVO4G which I had several of those I shattered the screen multiple times on all of them from dropping it. The speaker was a joke sure it was louder than the 3d until it blew the **** out. The 3D is sturdy and durable no problems from dropping not even a scratch on the screen I use no cases or protectors. Usb charging port is pathetic pos on EVO4g. 3D came out 1 year after 4G pretty dam good phone. There's nothing mind blowing that has come out since the 3D release I just don't get it. Were just now starting to see the next wave of technology that will soon outshine the phone.
Every other electronic device that you modify through software or hardware not provided by the OEM voids the warranty why does everyone feel cell phone manufactures/carriers shouldn't its just mind boggling. If you're fedup an rdy to tell sprint **** you kiss my ass it ain't always greener on the otherside even if its red.
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I don't care about customer service, I have dealt with good and bad reps of ANY company I have ever dealt with.
Sprint has unlimited plans but their network is mark-ably worse then when I first started using it.
Verizon has much better signal everywhere. I have a Verizon Mifi device and when my Evo 3D or Sprint Wifi device (which I returned) could not connect at work at all I was getting decent 4G with Verizon! No connection vs connection with 4G. And we all know Verizon has a much faster 4G data rate.
There are pros and cons to every carrier. I have friends who have all carriers, I have tried all of them almost (AT&T, US Cellular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cingular) and there is plus and minus to all of them. But your post has some good points as well. Thank you for your reply and I agree with a LOT of what you said.
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I have no idea what you said but I am guessing your post was a typical "retaliation" thread against mine and maybe the mods removed it so this post does not become a back and forth. But 30 posts about how they removed your threads are taking THIS thread off subject, so please stick to the subject matter.
A lot of people reply to posts with counter arguments but many go overboard. Maybe you did and they removed it? I can only speculate....
Anyhow, you can disagree with me of course but keep it clean. I opened this post with MY feelings, if yours differ offer counter arguments but no need to be rude (not saying your reply was rude, but seems there was something up with it).
I added to my first post now with more information
Loved your roms on the 4G, basically the only reason I responded to this thread (usually stay away from xda now). Sorry about the problems you are having.
Hopefully you find a phone and a carrier that treats you as well as your last phone.
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ricsim78 said:
I don't care about customer service, I have dealt with good and bad reps of ANY company I have ever dealt with.
Sprint has unlimited plans but their network is mark-ably worse then when I first started using it.
Verizon has much better signal everywhere. I have a Verizon Mifi device and when my Evo 3D or Sprint Wifi device (which I returned) could not connect at work at all I was getting decent 4G with Verizon! No connection vs connection with 4G. And we all know Verizon has a much faster 4G data rate.
There are pros and cons to every carrier. I have friends who have all carriers, I have tried all of them almost (AT&T, US Cellular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cingular) and there is plus and minus to all of them. But your post has some good points as well. Thank you for your reply and I agree with a LOT of what you said.
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Hi Ric, I also loved your roms on the EVO 4G too. I also made the switch to red, not because of the EVO 3D. I loved the phone and it's a solid phone but I didn't have a 1.5 hboot either. I might have felt differently if I had one. I as you did got tired of watching my coverage get worse. I'm not that far from you and I was paying for 4G coverage and hardly getting it . Some may disagree but I felt my 4G was better when I had my OG EVO. I'm no longer under "unlimited" data but is sprint truly "unlimited" when there's threads about guys getting cancelled for using too much data when it's "unlimited"..Just my .02. I'm sure in true XDA fashion someone will say "good riddance" or "cool story bro" but I'm a forum veteran and have seen it all on forums of all types. If it helps with your choice I'm loving the 4GLTE coverage Ric.
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So I MAY get the HOX+ when the funds are available. I'm a broke ass college student and I am really interested in getting the phone to help out more around here. However, I'm deciding on what to get. I'm on T-Mobile USA and they are almost done refarming their network in the Chicago market so I can get HSPA+ "4G" on it. T-Mobile should also be rolling out LTE next year as well.
Int'l model - Logically, much more development since it is in multiple countries
AT&T model - Warranty will be easier to do if anything happens and it'll have LTE.
Steer me to the right direction. Please and Thank you.
I don't know how it goes in the US but in Germany LTE is not widely available yet, and also the costs are much higher than with 3G.
I live in the city and would have LTE available here at home and when out and about, but it would be 27€ more per month for 24 month. So, my usage profile would just not make sense. I travel a lot on the high spped train ICE and 98% of the time there is only 2G available anyways, with 3G only in stations along the track when it stops. 3G is more than sufficient when I am out around town.
So, for me LTE is a waste of money (27€ x24month contract=648€ on top of my regular contract)
If the costs are closer to a regular 3G contract in the US I would go with LTE of course, just to have the latest!
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So I MAY get the HOX+ when the funds are available. I'm a broke ass college student and I am really interested in getting the phone to help out more around here. However, I'm deciding on what to get. I'm on T-Mobile USA and they are almost done refarming their network in the Chicago market so I can get HSPA+ "4G" on it. T-Mobile should also be rolling out LTE next year as well.
Int'l model - Logically, much more development since it is in multiple countries
AT&T model - Warranty will be easier to do if anything happens and it'll have LTE.
Steer me to the right direction. Please and Thank you.
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I originally was going to go with the Nexus 4 and just had it delivered but I ended up going with the One X+ (AT&T). I was the first to say LTE wasn't needed, but after a few days with the One X+, I don't know if I could go back. It is just so stupid fast, if it is in your area, I would strongly consider the AT&T version just for that...
Plus if I remember right a few forum members pitched in to get Lloir a AT&T One X+ for deving, so there should be some stuff on the way for it.
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I don't know how it goes in the US but in Germany LTE is not widely available yet, and also the costs are much higher than with 3G.
I live in the city and would have LTE available here at home and when out and about, but it would be 27€ more per month for 24 month. So, my usage profile would just not make sense. I travel a lot on the high spped train ICE and 98% of the time there is only 2G available anyways, with 3G only in stations along the track when it stops. 3G is more than sufficient when I am out around town.
So, for me LTE is a waste of money (27€ x24month contract=648€ on top of my regular contract)
If the costs are closer to a regular 3G contract in the US I would go with LTE of course, just to have the latest!
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Even if I got either HOX+, I will be stuck on 2G until T-Mobile changes part of their network.
LTE isn't out yet for T-Mobile so I can't mention on the price structure for it.
What I am really worrying about it warranty. If it's a manufacturer defect, I can send it to HTC in Texas to get it repaired. I'm pushing towards the AT&T model since it is also a bit cheaper by ~$40
You should get the AT&T one. That would be the best for development in general. Especially for you US boys
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I am getting the AT&T HOX+ over the weekend. The only difference between the two is LTE, but you have TMobile. If warranty is a big deal for you, get the AT&T.
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I originally was going to go with the Nexus 4 and just had it delivered but I ended up going with the One X+ (AT&T). I was the first to say LTE wasn't needed, but after a few days with the One X+, I don't know if I could go back. It is just so stupid fast, if it is in your area, I would strongly consider the AT&T version just for that...
Plus if I remember right a few forum members pitched in to get Lloir a AT&T One X+ for deving, so there should be some stuff on the way for it.
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I really wanna try LTE. T-Mobile has a great network so I know LTE will be a killer!
I guess I must've missed that lol. Didn't know they were pitching in for the AT&T model.
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You should get the AT&T one. That would be the best for development in general. Especially for you US boys
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Int'l models are usually more popular since it is widely available. That's why I hope the dev would be good.
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I am getting the AT&T HOX+ over the weekend. The only difference between the two is LTE, but you have TMobile. If warranty is a big deal for you, get the AT&T.
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Yeah. I was thinking about it. May just get the AT&T model when prices drop and I get more cash. I'm still far away from my goal in buying it lol
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I originally was going to go with the Nexus 4 and just had it delivered but I ended up going with the One X+ (AT&T). I was the first to say LTE wasn't needed, but after a few days with the One X+, I don't know if I could go back. It is just so stupid fast, if it is in your area, I would strongly consider the AT&T version just for that...
Plus if I remember right a few forum members pitched in to get Lloir a AT&T One X+ for deving, so there should be some stuff on the way for it.
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I got shut out of the N4 on Google's release day. But I had an S3 (sold it) and have LTE in my area so I picked up the One X+.
I am SO glad I did. It is one awesome device. Super fast and smoother than the S3. Better screen, camera, etc.
It made me realize that once you have access to LTE it makes no sense to revert back to hspa+. Take advantage of the technology as we are paying for the monthly service.
If I was not located in a AT&T LTE area, I would still pull the trigger because they are launching new markets like crazy. I have had LTE for months and they never announced it was available. They light up markets for testing sometimes months before they make it official and users.
Hope this helps.
The AT&T version seems to be the best bet! LTE is widespread
Thanks everyone!
Now, the issue is the money.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc/one-xplus-carbon-black.html
Price of phone w/o contract w/ tax included = $603.61 (549.99 * 9.75%)
PayPal balance = $15.88
Amount needed = $587.73
This is going to take some time... lol
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Even if I got either HOX+, I will be stuck on 2G until T-Mobile changes part of their network.
LTE isn't out yet for T-Mobile so I can't mention on the price structure for it.
What I am really worrying about it warranty. If it's a manufacturer defect, I can send it to HTC in Texas to get it repaired. I'm pushing towards the AT&T model since it is also a bit cheaper by ~$40
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I'm considering the same thing too. It looks T-mobile will deploy the LTE on AWS band same as AT&T, so this phone is more "future-proof" than Nexus 4. How do I get it carrier unlocked if i get one from AT&T store though?
Those of us state side need a DEV that has our device. If someone wants to start a "fund raiser" thread to get you an AT&T HOX+ you can count me in for $50.
Edit: I also have a line that is early upgrade eligible so that would be $100 off the device if that helps. If we can get the funds up I have a way I can get this too you Hasoon2000. Just PM me.
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Those of us state side need a DEV that has our device. If someone wants to start a "fund raiser" thread to get you an AT&T HOX+ you can count me in for $50.
Edit: I also have a line that is early upgrade eligible so that would be $100 off the device if that helps. If we can get the funds up I have a way I can get this too you Hasoon2000. Just PM me.
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I'd hate to burst your bubble. I'm not really a ROM dev. I know some basics. If you guys want me to learn and have it as a device to practice on, I wouldn't mind. However, do not expect quick results.
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I'd hate to burst your bubble. I'm not really a ROM dev. I know some basics. If you guys want me to learn and have it as a device to practice on, I wouldn't mind. However, do not expect quick results.
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Last time I checked. XDA didn't give out recognised dev titles to people who only knew the basics I think your being a tad modest lol
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Last time I checked. XDA didn't give out recognised dev titles to people who only knew the basics I think your being a tad modest lol
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Haha. Remember, we all have our own specialties. I'd love to learn and help you guys out. I haven't posted in the Amaze forums for a few days now. I live here instead lol
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hasoon2000 said:
Thanks everyone!
Now, the issue is the money.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc/one-xplus-carbon-black.html
Price of phone w/o contract w/ tax included = $603.61 (549.99 * 9.75%)
PayPal balance = $15.88
Amount needed = $587.73
This is going to take some time... lol
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Honestly if you were to start a donate post many would help you get one for your anti brick noob toolkit that has saved many from bricking their devices. You have contributed greatly to the android community and well deserving of the help, I myself even though not a noob have used it in the past for the convenience of it alone.
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Honestly if you were to start a donate post many would help you get one for your anti brick noob toolkit that has saved many from bricking their devices. You have contributed greatly to the android community and well deserving of the help, I myself even though not a noob have used it in the past for the convenience of it alone.
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It would be selfish if I made that type of thread. If you guys believe in it, you guys can do it for me. I'll just wait to save up money or when the price drops.
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It would be selfish if I made that type of thread. If you guys believe in it, you guys can do it for me. I'll just wait to save up money or when the price drops.
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I agree with this. The person looking for the device should NEVER start the asking. Nothing but trouble. Seen it before.
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droidiac13 said:
I agree with this. The person looking for the device should NEVER start the asking. Nothing but trouble. Seen it before.
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I completely agree. That's why I said if people would want to make a thread for me, then I'm fine with it. However, I won't ask people to give me money.
I've had the original Evo4G for 2 years and 4 months now. It has always been rooted and performs flawlessly and does everything I ask of it. When I saw the EvoLTE was coming out I really wanted one and I was/am eligible for an upgrade. I decided to wait a few months for the kinks to get worked out of the phone before getting one. Sprint offers the LTE for $99 presently and I'm tempted to grab one.
In the last few months I haven't been reading the EvoLTE forum but started reading everything a couple of days ago. I don't have a problem with the people who are critical of the LTE and are leaving it for a Samsung. The Evo4G is the best phone I've ever had and is the first HTC phone I've owned. As I said, it does everything I ask of it, is reliable, and I know everything about it.
My question to those who like their LTE's is this: Should I upgrade to the LTE?
I'm not willing to spend what it costs now for a Sprint SamsungSIII, $199-249 and have no idea if I'd like the phone if I did. I am concerned about owners here who tell of the LTE's Sense not working properly, of data problems, rebooting etc. I've never had 4G in my area and Sprint doesn't even have my area in AZ on the list of upcoming LTE service. I've paid that damn $10 monthly charge for 3G only which annoys me since I own a 4G phone that Sprint doesn't supply 4G service for. I can deal with continuing to pay the $10 for no 4g or LTE but I don't want to get rid of a phone that stays connected always, has a good download speed locally on 3g, and always works, for an EvoLTE that doesn't always work and continues to have problems.
So I guess I'm asking for encouragement to upgrade to the LTE. I'm not going to leave Sprint, the true unlimited Data is the most important feature they offer and I need the several Gigs of data each month that I continue to use. What do you owners have to say?
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Get the EVOLTE My dad has an og Evo that I rooted and played with and the difference is just amazing. We compared side by side the stock roms and its night and day. Data speeds were better, apps launched much quicker, the camera took pictures faster and higher quality, and the list just goes on.
Don't listen to the naysayers on here, the new evo is awesome. There have been some LTE issues for some but I'm in the same boat as you with no LTE in the foreseeable future in my area.
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this phone is dope.. put this phone next to the phone next to the og evo and u will see it smokes the og evo in every way.. i had the og evo.. the evo 3d and now the evo lte.. i never had 1 single problem with this phone.. its beast! :good:
I also had the original for over 2 years and it IS an awesome phone. That said, if you are in a good signal area, the lte will run circles around it. Very comfortable to use and fast. I'm on MeanRom with mine, rooted and s-off. 3g signal reception is a full 2 bars down from OG and like you, I'm not gonna get 4g anytime soon. If you never roam in areas where signal is down to 1 or 2 bars you'll do fine. If you go into areas like that and making calls or receiving data is important I would wait a while. Personally,I hunt in remote areas a lot. If I'm going for more than a day,I just switch back to the OG for the trip and switch back when home. Good luck with your choice......
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I also had the original for over 2 years and it IS an awesome phone. That said, if you are in a good signal area, the lte will run circles around it. Very comfortable to use and fast. I'm on MeanRom with mine, rooted and s-off. 3g signal reception is a full 2 bars down from OG and like you, I'm not gonna get 4g anytime soon. If you never roam in areas where signal is down to 1 or 2 bars you'll do fine. If you go into areas like that and making calls or receiving data is important I would wait a while. Personally,I hunt in remote areas a lot. If I'm going for more than a day,I just switch back to the OG for the trip and switch back when home. Good luck with your choice......
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Honesty, my reception improved over my dads Evo... By a noticeable amount. We live in the boonies and also hunt a lot and he depends on me to get the calls on my phone because his phone doesnt even ring. It depends on where you live I guess.
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as much as i like this phone id say check out the optimous g its a really nice phone overall already cracked. and just gonna be a matter of time before some roms start flooding on to it but thats just me i want it but my girlfriend wont trade me lol.
I would definitely say upgrade to the LTE. It's far better than the previous EVOs in every way, as others have mentioned. I'm one of those who will probably be switching to the GS3, but it's more for the experience of trying something different than what I'm used to over the last three years.
Thanks to all of you for your replies. I'm really leaning towards trying the LTE. My home is in a rural area outside the city and I have excellent 3G coverage. If I can have the same result with the LTE, root it, be able to operate on wireless, and have the "Hot Spot" as I do now on the OG 4G I'll be very happy indeed.
as much as i like this phone id say check out the optimous g its a really nice phone overall already cracked. and just gonna be a matter of time before some roms start flooding on to it but thats just me i want it but my girlfriend wont trade me lol.
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I went to the Sprint website and looked at the Optimus. It looks sweet, my phone before the Evo4G was the LG Lotus. It was a great phone for it's era and never gave me any problems. I don't want to spend $199 for a phone at this time, the $99 for the LTE is in my price range.
Thanks for the suggestion, let us know how you like the Optimus if you get it.
If you want the evo is 99cent look for the tread that has the link.
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Here's the link
http://shop2.sprint.com/NASApp/onlinestore/Action/DisplayAisleLanding?ECID=vanity:99centoffer
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If you want the evo is 99cent look for the tread that has the link.
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I clicked on the link and it came up with: Access denied:
"You may be trying to access a private offer or shopping area on sprint.com. Please confirm that the link you entered is correct."
I'll look for a thread you mentioned, thanks!
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If you want the evo is 99cent look for the tread that has the link.
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I placed the order using your link. It went through as I am a long time customer. The only odd thing was after placing the order it gave me a confirmation number which I used to check on "my order". The page that came up said, "This order must be manually processed" so I'm not sure what that means.
Do you know if anyone using that link has received their phone yet? People were placing orders around 10 days ago, they should have received their phones by now. Another person on the other forum wrote that he got the "Order must be processed manually" also, he hasn't posted again saying if his phone was shipped and was delivered.
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I haven't looked, but wasn't that special for black Friday? Or cyber Monday?
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I haven't looked, but wasn't that special for black Friday? Or cyber Monday?
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On the Private Store page it didn't say anything about Black Friday or it being Cyber Monday or anything special. I messed up because the discounts they give you end up with a $49 credit you can spend as you make the order. I didn't notice this until after making my order and then went back to read other posts on the other forum and a few people talked about using the $49 credit to order accessories. :laugh:
Oh well, if I get the phone for almost nothing I'll get over not spending the credit.
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DC
The manual thing is common for the Sprint private store. I got the evo on white for my wife it took like 4 days after the order was placed. I think it took a while because I ordered on Saturday night. She loves it. I score big points thanks to that website. She thinks I bought it at 200 bucks. I (it was free) just don't tell her.
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Came from the OG EVO to the LTE recently and I love it. No complaints here
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Don't get the EVO LTE over the GS3. If and when you get LTE in your area, you will regret it.
Stick with the OG. Coworker is doing it and does just fine. Getting the ELTE is really just about ICS improvements and to be honest, there isn't that much if you happen to use custom ROMs on the OG. Plus, he gets WiMax where I'm stuck on 3G LOL (depends on your service area of course, but we have a WiMax tower across the street). I actually still use my OG at home with SWAG on it. Works great.
IF LTE is not going to be available before your next contract (2 years if you buy evo lte), then I would upgrade to the EVO LTE.
My main gripe is the LTE connection issues.... it's incredibly frustrating knowing there is 5-15 Mbit data speeds available... but to get them you really have to fight with the phone's software to access the LTE at times.
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IF LTE is not going to be available before your next contract (2 years if you buy evo lte), then I would upgrade to the EVO LTE.
My main gripe is the LTE connection issues.... it's incredibly frustrating knowing there is 5-15 Mbit data speeds available... but to get them you really have to fight with the phone's software to access the LTE at times.
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We never got 4G service in my area of Arizona. Sprint doesn't even list us on future areas for LTE service. Strange, we're a metropolitan area of over 1 million and never even got 4G. :crying:
It's safe to say there will not be LTE service in the next two years so the EvoLTE will be a good upgrade for me on 3G only.
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Let me start by saying i've loved the Evo 4G LTE, but I cannot handle having my data connection cut out on the regular.
So, I called into Customer Care after reading about some others on here doing it, to get my 4G connectivity issue fixed once and for all. I explained my situation, and I was told to take it into a service center and they will verify that there is no physical/water damage, and they will discuss comparable phones with me.
I took it into the service center yesterday evening. I called about it today, and they told me that ,"It is connecting to 4G right now. But there are improvements being made to the towers, so it may be intermittent." I wasn't going to fall for this line and informed them that i'd like to switch over to a phone that gets a consistent connection. They gave me the standard crap about having to have 3 or 4 replacements before they'll consider another phone. They could order me a refurb EVO if i'd like. (This was all despite informing them what Customer Care had told me.) I got slightly rude because i was angry, but told her to order the phone.
I then called back into customer care, and they took care of me. She ordered me a Galaxy SIII over the phone.
Moral of the story, call into Customer Care and you should be able to get a replacement if the 4G LTE connectivity is an issue for you as well.
Cool story lol. Doesn't 4G connectivity issues mean 4G connectivity issues? Either way, see ya and thanks for your contributions!
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Let me start by saying i've loved the Evo 4G LTE, but I cannot handle having my data connection cut out on the regular.
So, I called into Customer Care after reading about some others on here doing it, to get my 4G connectivity issue fixed once and for all. I explained my situation, and I was told to take it into a service center and they will verify that there is no physical/water damage, and they will discuss comparable phones with me.
I took it into the service center yesterday evening. I called about it today, and they told me that ,"It is connecting to 4G right now. But there are improvements being made to the towers, so it may be intermittent." I wasn't going to fall for this line and informed them that i'd like to switch over to a phone that gets a consistent connection. They gave me the standard crap about having to have 3 or 4 replacements before they'll consider another phone. They could order me a refurb EVO if i'd like. (This was all despite informing them what Customer Care had told me.) I got slightly rude because i was angry, but told her to order the phone.
I then called back into customer care, and they took care of me. She ordered me a Galaxy SIII over the phone.
Moral of the story, call into Customer Care and you should be able to get a replacement if the 4G LTE connectivity is an issue for you as well.
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Dude I get data disconnection all the time. I will have to toggle airplane mode just to get a signal and sometimes a reboot is required. Long did you have the EVO? Do you have insurance thru Sprint? What happened to your EVO? Everytime I've called Sprint they would make you do a factory reset and hell if I'm doing that. the disconnection happens maybe every other day for me.
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Dude I get data disconnection all the time. I will have to toggle airplane mode just to get a signal and sometimes a reboot is required. Long did you have the EVO? Do you have insurance thru Sprint? What happened to your EVO?
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Yep, that's the exact same problem I was having. From everything I've read on here, many EVO 4G LTE owners have the same issue. I got to the point where i was fed up with it though. I had that 2nd one for ~4 months. I've been on the EVO 4G LTE since mid October though.
Yes, I had the rip-off $11/month insurance through Sprint. After talking to customer care, they are going to send me an SIII and I will be mailing my EVO back to them. Picking it up from corporate repair store this afternoon after their "fix", which was basically telling me that it connects to 4G and work on the towers is the reason for intermittent connection.
Please update the OP once you get the SIII and tell us if its any improvement.
Im curious to know.
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Yep, that's the exact same problem I was having. From everything I've read on here, many EVO 4G LTE owners have the same issue. I got to the point where i was fed up with it though. I had that 2nd one for ~4 months. I've been on the EVO 4G LTE since mid October though.
Yes, I had the rip-off $11/month insurance through Sprint. After talking to customer care, they are going to send me an SIII and I will be mailing my EVO back to them. Picking it up from corporate repair store this afternoon after their "fix", which was basically telling me that it connects to 4G and work on the towers is the reason for intermittent connection.
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Well I don't have insurance thru Sprint anymore. After they raised it I went thru a 3rd party company GoCare.com. So I guess I can't get a different phone like you then....
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Please update the OP once you get the SIII and tell us if its any improvement.
Im curious to know.
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Will do. Many of my co-workers here in Chicago have SIII's and have an almost constant connection to 4G. I'll update my experience with it once I've used it for a few days
What do you think the odds are that HTC would give me a replacement device even after I unlocked thru HTCdev?
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Please update the OP once you get the SIII and tell us if its any improvement.
Im curious to know.
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Trust me when I say switching to a different phone made all the difference in the world with my 4G/data dropping issues I had with the Evo LTE...it's really no comparison, something was really wrong with the Evo..Keeping my eye on the next HTC device though,cant beat HTC build quality..
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BrianBaker said:
Trust me when I say switching to a different phone made all the difference in the world with my 4G/data dropping issues I had with the Evo LTE...it's really no comparison, something was really wrong with the Evo..Keeping my eye on the next HTC device though,cant beat HTC build quality..
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Looks like I'm screwed. If the data dropping was a constant issue then I'd file a claim with GoCare. It happens maybe every other day and if I send them my phone the odds this happens within the hour they determine something is wrong is very slim. That sucks tho because they told me I could possibly pay my $50 deductible and I could choose my replacement phone. I'd go Note 2 all the way!
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I called Sprint and I'm getting an S3 for $50 and sending them my EVO. So happy this problem will not apply to me anymore!
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I live in San Antonio, which has had LTE for a while now, and I've never had a problem connecting to LTE except in the building I work in. I'm on wifi at home, but if I don't have my wifi on, I don't have this problem...
..maybe it's not all of the phones, just some?
Anyway, I'd like an update too, from the OP in this thread, just to see what he thinks. New phones are coming out all the time, and I'd hate to switch when the one I've got is still pretty good.
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I live in San Antonio, which has had LTE for a while now, and I've never had a problem connecting to LTE except in the building I work in. I'm on wifi at home, but if I don't have my wifi on, I don't have this problem...
..maybe it's not all of the phones, just some?
Anyway, I'd like an update too, from the OP in this thread, just to see what he thinks. New phones are coming out all the time, and I'd hate to switch when the one I've got is still pretty good.
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Well when I called Sprint and pled my case they said there are notes in there system about this problem so they are aware of it. I have screenshots to prove it. I wonder of ill get faster speeds on the S3 as well...
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There are other threads one could post this in...
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My contract has been over for a while now and im thinking about getting the htc one from verizon
What do you guys think ? Are there any better htc phones coming out that i should wait for ?
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My contract has been over for a while now and im thinking about getting the htc one from verizon
What do you guys think ? Are there any better htc phones coming out that i should wait for ?
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The One is a good phone, although if I was going to get a new phone on Verizon today it would be the LG G2 without any hesitation, it is clearly the leading phone for hard core Android users right now stuck on Verizon. The HTC One would not disappoint though.
Also note that the HTC One Max just started being silently sold by Verizon today, it's a monster though.... 5.9" screen and 3300mAh battery will make it large and heavy, but if you really like HTC and can live with the $300 contract renewal price tag... well, your call I guess.
Are you really tied to Verizon? If not, consider the Nexus 5 and a GSM prepaid SIM... not only is it an amazing phone but it would save you up to $55 per month for comparable service over Verizon.
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The One is a good phone, although if I was going to get a new phone on Verizon today it would be the LG G2 without any hesitation, it is clearly the leading phone for hard core Android users right now stuck on Verizon. The HTC One would not disappoint though.
Also note that the HTC One Max just started being silently sold by Verizon today, it's a monster though.... 5.9" screen and 3300mAh battery will make it large and heavy, but if you really like HTC and can live with the $300 contract renewal price tag... well, your call I guess.
Are you really tied to Verizon? If not, consider the Nexus 5 and a GSM prepaid SIM... not only is it an amazing phone but it would save you up to $55 per month for comparable service over Verizon.
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I was thinking about the one max but the reason I want to get it is because some of the devs from here are switching over to the one and one of the devs from my thunderbolt days also has the one and ive always had an htc phone its what im used to really. I dont go for the aosp look I wouldnt stray from htc. Another reason is because ive never had any problems with there phones EVER with the thunderbolt I heard there were many issues of random reboots on sense but I never experienced any with the rezound it was overheating issues and mine hasent done that either.
I tried pageplus since ive heard that they use verizons towers but the reception was bad... I dont live in mesa AZ anymore I live out in the country in CA now and verizon is the only carrier that works out here.
Wish that was true where I live... With anything other than Verizon you'll have crap signal if your not in your car on the main roads.
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Wish that was true where I live... With anything other than Verizon you'll have crap signal if your not in your car on the main roads.
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my Friend has a samsung s3 and his reception is always spotty ... Ive heard that since the antenna on htc phones is in the cover itself and that it gets better signal but others say that htc always exaggerate the signal you may have..
Another part of the equation is do you currently have unlimited data and if so do you want to keep it...
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Another part of the equation is do you currently have unlimited data and if so do you want to keep it...
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I lost it when i upgraded to the incredible 2 a while ago ...
Never had unlimited so that's not a problem. I also live half an hour out of town lol. No Verizon=no service.
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