Do you think that the new ceo will probably change the policy of motorola and unlock the bootloader?
Some one know the mail of Dennis Woodside so we can told him that the motorola user want?
**** yes, maybe Google can put some sense into these idiots
eyriiii said:
**** yes, maybe Google can put some sense into these idiots
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We don't need SENSE, the new BLUR is good.
J/K
I hope so, but good promised to put firewall between companies. So it would not mess with motorola.
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CEO has gone maybe this mean some mind change to motorola regarding bootloaders and updating.
http://pulse.me/s/9vrWY
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pedrotorresfilho said:
CEO has gone maybe this mean some mind change to motorola regarding bootloaders and updating.
http://pulse.me/s/9vrWY
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Yes I actually read that just some seconds ago, I really hope moto unlocks their bootloaders now or at least offer the same unlock solution as HTC
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If moto unlock the bootloader finally we can use ur phone to its fullest
Let's hope that the new ceo and the new team will love us XD
the bootloader being locked is all down to the service providers wanting it locked and Motorola doing what they are told , its all about product power , take Samsung their phones sell now matter what and service providers know this hence they cant force Samsung to lock bootloaders , samsung can basically do what they want and service providers have to take it, where as motorola dont have that control over the service providers and with google being run by eliments within Us government there as alot more other agendas we have no idea about
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maniAK- said:
the bootloader being locked is all down to the service providers wanting it locked and Motorola doing what they are told , its all about product power , take Samsung their phones sell now matter what and service providers know this hence they cant force Samsung to lock bootloaders , samsung can basically do what they want and service providers have to take it, where as motorola dont have that control over the service providers and with google being run by eliments within Us government there as alot more other agendas we have no idea about
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It's against FCC policies to lock our bootloader, it stops us from putting the OS we want on our devices.
Verizons main revenue stream is Motorola droid phones, they need Motorola.
You're also thinking too small, but why is it that on all other carriers, the bootloader is locked?
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People for this bl problem they already have released a solution that is
Razr dev. Edition so they wont unlock our razr's bl
Get it!
Visit my channel on youtube
youtube.com/Therazrguy
eyriiii said:
**** yes, maybe Google can put some sense into these idiots
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+100500 as we Russians say
theZest said:
+100500 as we Russians say
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Plyus sto pyatsot. Does not make any sense.
As Russian speaking person says.
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therazrguy said:
People for this bl problem they already have released a solution that is
Razr dev. Edition so they wont unlock our razr's bl
Get it!
Visit my channel on youtube
youtube.com/Therazrguy
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Lol?
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therazrguy said:
People for this bl problem they already have released a solution that is
Razr dev. Edition so they wont unlock our razr's bl
Get it!
Visit my channel on youtube
youtube.com/Therazrguy
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Really??? No Say Sherlock - I didn't knew that...
I dunno about moto... but I bought a TF300T transformer tablet over the weekend. I remember signing a petition to unlock the bootloader the next day.
BAM. Asus has issued a bootloader unlock, telling you if you use it, you're pretty much up the creek on warranty.
But man... do I respect ASUS now. I haven't unlocked the BL yet; but if and when I want to I can, and take responsibility for the device. Now that's the way to treat a customer; give them choices, and if you have to give responsibility along with the choice, be clear about it.
Moto could take a lesson here, but I doubt they will. Asus ROX! I wish they made phones
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People for this bl problem they already have released a solution that is
Razr dev. Edition so they wont unlock our razr's bl
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CDMA? no. The still lock the bp part!
steven.rn said:
Moto could take a lesson here, but I doubt they will. Asus ROX! I wish they made phones
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+1. I had an awesome experience with theTF101.
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CDMA? no. The still lock the bp part!
+1. I had an awesome experience with theTF101.
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I Can't Wait!
I asked motorola in facebook, also did kholks and they gave to me same answer about dev razr. Looks like they'll not unlock it In any case if they dont we will count with kexec as soon as ics kernell source become availiable. And, since its not an official bl unlock and can be undone we'll not touch warranty, as usually happens to htc n others.
Just thinking loud.
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pedrotorresfilho said:
I asked motorola in facebook, also did kholks and they gave to me same answer about dev razr. Looks like they'll not unlock it In any case if they dont we will count with kexec as soon as ics kernell source become availiable. And, since its not an official bl unlock and can be undone we'll not touch warranty, as usually happens to htc n others.
Just thinking loud.
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You never know, some things may change over a day
eyriiii said:
You never know, some things may change over a day
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Expecially now that there is a new ceo with a lot of new member in the executive team. (and the new ceo is from google so it should know that the power of android is it personalizzation)
Unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty, but its not the only thing that does. Rooting voids it too, and you have to root to Kexec.
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It mean you can't get into recovery or download mode.
^ Basically that.
Which in-a-way blocks you from rooting your phone.
There's a method somewhere in the general seccion to root a lock bootloader. I have the link on the lap ill try post it later
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There's a method somewhere in the general seccion to root a lock bootloader. I have the link on the lap ill try post it later
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Yes, there are workarounds, but what i meant is like a locked bootloader is there usually to STOP rooting.
If people couldn't root locked bootloaders, there wouldn't be motorola phones on xda haha...
That's true
There goes my chances of getting an atrix
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They released the key to the Motorola bootloader today over Twitter, basically all motorola phones can now unlock their bootloader. Crazy thing is, the hacker gave 3 notices that he would release the exploit, but they never contacted him.
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They released the key to the Motorola bootloader today over Twitter, basically all motorola phones can now unlock their bootloader. Crazy thing is, the hacker gave 3 notices that he would release the exploit, but they never contacted him.
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What a weird coincidence that I posted this question on this day?
What do you mean they never contacted him?
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s15274n said:
They released the key to the Motorola bootloader today over Twitter, basically all motorola phones can now unlock their bootloader. Crazy thing is, the hacker gave 3 notices that he would release the exploit, but they never contacted him.
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just searched that up and haha made me laugh
he told them 3 times of it yet no response
then when he did release it they respond to him with motorola legal team hahah
Lol
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3 notices over 3 months, and nothing....
He released it as promised and within 2 hours he was contacted by Motorola Legal. That's just sad.
Wow turns out it was a joke
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http://modmymobile.com/forums/459-a...torola-agrees-unlocked-bootloaders-catch.html
So motorola has agreed to unlock the bootloaders on seemingly all their phones? Only catch is its up to the carrier to decide? Lets just hope AT&T won't be bastards on this issue!
Edit: Could a mod please move this to atrix general I put this in the wrong area.
So that's like what... a stalemate?
Ok... so now we get to wait another 6 months before they actually do..... Motorola lies too much to the point where its hard to believe them.
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i hope this happens soon. would make this phone so much better.
Late 2011=near future?
Gutterball said:
Lets just hope AT&T won't be bastards on this issue!
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If AT&T said no, in theory couldnt one just flash a Bell/Telsa bootloader on an AT&T Atrix?
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/55945
It is a good article, I think it is a good idea to spread this around. I think most of you would support this.
religi0n said:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/55945
It is a good article, I think it is a good idea to spread this around. I think most of you would support this.
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Man why is this such a hard thing to do by motorola, htc and samsung are cool with it, and lg i believe is too... why does moto have to have a stick up there asses
ericerk said:
Man why is this such a hard thing to do by motorola, htc and samsung are cool with it, and lg i believe is too... why does moto have to have a stick up there asses
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I think they feel like they would lose their business with the phone companies
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I think they feel like they would lose their business with the phone companies
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Instead consumers would be happy
KurioHonoo said:
I think they feel like they would lose their business with the phone companies
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But of course, because a locked bootloader is raking in all the cash.
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Avelnan said:
But of course, because a locked bootloader is raking in all the cash.
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Not For Long.
Time and time again people have pleaded with motorola about this issue. Motorola does not listen to it's customer's; it listen's to it's carrier's. It's up to a dev to get this thing unlocked. Period.
The x2 is kinda the redheaded step child of the dev community right now. We may be pretty SOL
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The x2 is kinda the redheaded step child of the dev community right now. We may be pretty SOL
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At least we will be getting a BAMF ROM soon, maybe then we will get some more developer love.
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Originally Posted by KurioHonoo
I think they feel like they would lose their business with the phone companies
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Well, a few customers would be very happy. Unfortunately, the vast majority of customers have no idea what a custom ROM is, or care about even rooting their phone. Carriers like Verizon have much to gain by taking steps to insure that most of their phones in the field remain stock. I'd imagine that KurioHonoo hit it square on the head. Moto believes it more important to remain a favorite son of the carrires, rather than take a step that would please a small percentage of customers at the risk of doing anything to weaken their favored carrier status.
The fact that Moto manufactures much of the cell infrastructure equipment for the carriers probably reinforces this attitude.
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Well, a few customers would be very happy. Unfortunately, the vast majority of customers have no idea what a custom ROM is, or care about even rooting their phone. Carriers like Verizon have much to gain by taking steps to insure that most of their phones in the field remain stock. I'd imagine that KurioHonoo hit it square on the head. Moto believes it more important to remain a favorite son of the carrires, rather than take a step that would please a small percentage of customers at the risk of doing anything to weaken their favored carrier status.
The fact that Moto manufactures much of the cell infrastructure equipment for the carriers probably reinforces this attitude.
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The happy median is the "unofficial" leak. What a novel way to give something to everyone.
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At least we will be getting a BAMF ROM soon, maybe then we will get some more developer love.
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a BAMF rom does us no good with a stock kernel
I sent this in to Droid life and tweeted it to Android Police and what not. Come on guys, stop the pitty party and lets show Motorola how big that actual def community is! We're not just a small percentage, I know that for a fact. At least around here, where I live, everyone knows or at least knows the basic idea of what rooting and such is, and they are aware that HTC is supportive and Motorola is currently not.
But let's retweet this link to Motorola, and post on that forum. Let's show them how big we really are!
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We need to make Motorola realize that they cannot break promises and not expect major backlashings from their consumers. They promised to have unlocked bootloaders by the second half of 2011 if carriers let them, and guess what? Its December 31st, 2011. No unlocked bootloader. HTC has unlocked the bootloader for the Thunderbolt and other Verizon devices, so it IS NOT VERIZON. It is Motorola. Let your voice be heard: "Unlock the RAZR Bootloader!"
Motorola on Facebook
Motorola on Twitter
Quoting them will probably be the MOST effective. And mentioning HTC has unlocked their Verizon phones.
“In terms of your question – we completely understand the operator requirement for security to the end user, and as well, want to support the developer communities desire to use these products as a development platform. It is our intention to enable the unlockable/relockable bootloader currently found on Motorola XOOM across our portfolio of devices starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it.” -Motorola
Open Letter to Motorola - December 31st, 2011.
Similar thread on this forum already....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419815
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opensourcefan said:
Similar thread on this forum already....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419815
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Except, that thread includes 0 links, 0 references to Moto quotes and promises, etc.
Don't delete this thread!
People are lazy, we will never get the bootloader unlocked if no one does anything, and this thread provides links and references.
We need all the help we can get!
I second this. Motorola needs to take responsibility for its words and actions.
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I would second this but someone already did, I THIRD IT!
Sounds good I'm in
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The way information moves these days, I'm surprised that it hasn't been leaked out already. I wish someone at moto would go against the grain and do a solid for the community.
I fourth it! =D
I stand corrected, good thing the mods are smarter than me.
If anyone is interested I wrote up this complaint (http://db.tt/Z441y4yG) concerning Verizon's policy of locked bootloaders and how it violates the LTE license. I sent it to the FCC and NY senators, one of whom is looking into the matter. The complaint is written like a legal brief and has garnered the attention of at least senator. Feel free to use it and send it to FCC and your senators.
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I stand corrected, good thing the mods are smarter than me.
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Agreed X 10.
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Agreed X 10.
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Wow, kinda mean.
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I just twittered demanding them to answer for their promise. Ignored as expected.
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So i decided to ask LG if we actually do have an unlocked BootLoader and if we did how were we supposed to unlock it and this is what they responded me with....
Dear Carlos,
Thank you for contacting LG Electronics.
Unfortunately in USA models boot loader cannot be unlocked as a carrier request. USA models, even though they look similar to the international modes, have carrier specifications on their software. Due to their request that’s why we are not able to unlock it.
Once again thank you for contacting LG. In case you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again either via email, or by calling our customer service division at your convenience. Have a wonderful day.
Lorraine D.
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LG Customer Service
Toll Free number: 1-800-243-0000
LGEAI | Customer Interactive Center
Monday- Sunday
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Yeah, it sucks. Can we get the original unlocking bootloader guides back please? I want PACMAN tonight. /: You did have a nice find though with the whole official thing.
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Yeah, it sucks. Can we get the original unlocking bootloader guides back please? I want PACMAN tonight. /: You did have a nice find though with the whole official thing.
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Was there a better guide than the one found here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198114
That makes sense why when I called LG and he told me that I needed to call T-Mobile for further information on the unlocking process....
Probably gunna give a call tomorrow...
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Was there a better guide than the one found here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198114
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Yeah the Unlocking Guide for Noobs. He's making a video he said, and I'd be glad to help in any way I can.
T-Mobile petition?
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T-Mobile petition?
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Good idea.
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T-Mobile petition?
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I'm for the idea of the petition.
This sucks. I was so expecting to try Paranoid Android on my phone. Ah, well.... at least it's rooted. I also deodexed and zipaligned and removed the bloatware.
If you disable the lockscreen and use Widgetlocker.... along with Nova Launcher, it does give it a Nexus feel.
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You really got my hopes up with the whole "official" thing, Carlos. But I appreciate all your efforts and that you were man enough to clear the record. Thanks.
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I'm for the idea of the petition.
This sucks. I was so expecting to try Paranoid Android on my phone. Ah, well.... at least it's rooted. I also deodexed and zipaligned and removed the bloatware.
If you disable the lockscreen and use Widgetlocker.... along with Nova Launcher, it does give it a Nexus feel.
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Dont you have to unlock the bootloader to root?
No, you can root if you downgrade to ICS, 10G. And then keep root while you update to JB.
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EDIT: Looks like theres a root method for JB, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338816
EDIT: Looks like theres a root method for JB, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338816[/QUOTE]
There is, and it does.
Tmobile rooted LG- P769 V20d, keeping sharp eyes out for "real" bootloader unlock
what about canadian model for wind mobile ?
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what about canadian model for wind mobile ?
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For rooting? It's the same I believe. For the bootloader, I'm not sure. I think you still need to unlock the way we do if you have a P769.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2242239
cmahendra made this great Start Guide and I swear it answers over half the questions asked here repeatedly. :good:
Meda808 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2242239
cmahendra made this great Start Guide and I swear it answers over half the questions asked here repeatedly. :good:
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I know, and it's sad to see how many people that don't take the time to read the first couple of threads.
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I know, and it's sad to see how many people that don't take the time to read the first couple of threads.
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If not for cmahendra, I would have never learned how to offline flash. And his Infobank is awesome.
I just hope a better way to unlock the bootloader comes along eventually.
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I know, and it's sad to see how many people that don't take the time to read the first couple of threads.
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That's true, kuma.. Personally I read for a couple of weeks, over and over all that was needed and how to recover from mistakes.. It helped so much reading all the posts, what works, what doesn't. I'm very greatful to everyone that went before, and the crazy devs for pushing the envelope and figuring things out.
The current unlocking process may be complicated, but it works, if you take time to read(and read again).
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I want to unlock SO BADLY but I get stuck after I flash, I don't know what to do ahaha xD
The current unlock method for TMO P769 is so convoluted and it seems rather risky... Risky and destructive enough, I will probably not bother. How likely do you think a decent/proper unlock method will be found before the end of the year? I really dislike the stock UI and limited theming options/etc, came from PACMan on my previous phone and this is rather disappointing for a phone with such solid hardware.
Its looking pretty unlikely and I think I might just sell this phone and go back to Samsung where they tell the carrier where to shove it when they ask for a locked bootloader. Shame on LG for complying with this... Sure, they aren't Apple or Samsung but I think they could have pulled it off. At the very least they could have snuck some hidden method like HTC with the wire trick for S-OFF into the US version.