So I'm on the fence. I want to update to the 206 patch but I want to make sure I'm not going to screw myself down the road.
-Will updating to ICS through Cheesecake cause me to lose Root? (I have root backed up through VooDoo Rootkeeper)
-Will I be able to upgrade to future ICS Releases as they become available (or the official ICS if it gets released within our lifetime)?
Any input is appreciated.
Thanks
I'm pretty sure, based on how you asked your questions, that you've read the answers over and over. Why are you asking? If you haven't read the answers, go read the threads above and below this one, because they both have both answers.
qoncept said:
I'm pretty sure, based on how you asked your questions, that you've read the answers over and over. Why are you asking? If you haven't read the answers, go read the threads above and below this one, because they both have both answers.
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I've read the answers to my questions go both ways. I've read that people lost root and did not lose root and you can get OTAs and you can't and all that, so I'm asking, hoping to get an answer from someone who tried it already or may shed some light on the issue. Like I said, any input is appreciated.
aety9 said:
So I'm on the fence. I want to update to the 206 patch but I want to make sure I'm not going to screw myself down the road.
-Will updating to ICS through Cheesecake cause me to lose Root? (I have root backed up through VooDoo Rootkeeper)
-Will I be able to upgrade to future ICS Releases as they become available (or the official ICS if it gets released within our lifetime)?
Any input is appreciated.
Thanks
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Im on the 203 leak and yes you can restore root with ota.
However, i have not been able as of yet to update to any other leak. Ill know more about whether i can update through ota when it gets released.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using xda premium
As in most cases that involve modifying your phone beyond what is possible with a stock device, if you have to ask, then you probably shouldn't do it.
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I had a quick question about the new Tbolt update. I rooted my tBolt shortly after the last OTA update was pushed. This is the first update to come through since rooting and I was wondering what I needed to do to install the update. When I was looking into rooting I believe I had read that many times the formal updates are often leaked before hand anyways. Do I need to find a root version of the update somewhere (if so where would that be at?) or do I have to un-root to install it, or can I simply install it while rooted (I'm assuming this will encounter some errors). Sorry if this has been answered somewhere else already. I did look around and did not see anything answering this question. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks
If u download the update u WILL LOOSE ROOT.. give the dev time to root the update
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Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
dirtbikerr450 said:
Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Not necessarily. There are advantages to moving to a custom rom. Look over relevant stickies (at the top of subsections), review the OP of roms, read user feedback, then decide.
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so. With some minor tweaks (removal of bloatware, mostly) and the right apps, stock is working just fine for me. I'll wait until we have ICS source and some new ROMs based on it before I go custom.
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
Miami_Son said:
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so.
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LiLChris06 said:
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
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Actually until the download site problem is completely resolved, it doesn't hurt to root, then make a backup of the stock ROM to keep just in case. If you do need it, then you've got it, and it doesn't take that much space.
Yeah, considering how often download sites go boom nowadays, keeping a local backup is probably a good idea.
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
butikofer08 said:
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
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Miami_Son said:
Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
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Going back to stock is a download and Odin away.
Then you can go to the magical Official ICS that will probably not come out anytime soon.
I'm going to wait until the end of march since that is officially when Samsung says they will have it for the galaxy series. Now I know that doesn't mean squat what with carrier delays and all that crap that slows the update process down,
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
butikofer08 said:
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
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That manager wanted your money.
Hey, I am posting this thread here because XDA says I'm to 'new' to post in the dev section which i find completely stupid that I have to have 10+ bs post before i can post in the dev thread even though i have years of android and ios experience the fact that I chose not to share every last detail on this forum is now effecting me when I have minor questions about my new device. Anyway straight to the point I have a new tf201 on .21 and i want to root it just like i do all my other devices.....is there a way/program to do this yet? If so please provide a link or instructions on how to go about doing so.....Thank You in advance and sorry for the rant
not possible yet!
FMX1789 said:
Hey, I am posting this thread here because XDA says I'm to 'new' to post in the dev section which i find completely stupid that I have to have 10+ bs post before i can post in the dev thread even though i have years of android and ios experience the fact that I chose not to share every last detail on this forum is now effecting me when I have minor questions about my new device. Anyway straight to the point I have a new tf201 on .21 and i want to root it just like i do all my other devices.....is there a way/program to do this yet? If so please provide a link or instructions on how to go about doing so.....Thank You in advance and sorry for the rant
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If you're ok with voiding your waranty, you can unlock the bootloader and flash a custom pre-rooted ROM.
FMX1789 said:
Hey, I am posting this thread here because XDA says I'm to 'new' to post in the dev section which i find completely stupid that I have to have 10+ bs post before i can post in the dev thread even though i have years of android and ios experience the fact that I chose not to share every last detail on this forum is now effecting me when I have minor questions about my new device. Anyway straight to the point I have a new tf201 on .21 and i want to root it just like i do all my other devices.....is there a way/program to do this yet? If so please provide a link or instructions on how to go about doing so.....Thank You in advance and sorry for the rant
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It's to stop exactly what you are trying to do. If you read the big sticky in Dev Section that says "READ ME 1st" you would have seen this.
"If any mod, including myself, continue to find new threads about topics that have threads already existing or [Q] questions in the development forums!
The thread will be locked with no notice and/or up to a temp BAN!!."
Not having a go, just explaining
Not to bash the OP, but I spent many hours if not days researching how to root my prime .21, so my question to you is why should someone else post links, do the research for you?
I started with what the benefits, and negatives would be by rooting my prime. That took at least a day, then I researched the likely hood of me bricking my prime.
After I found "good cause" to root it, only then did I find a solution.....But nobody did this for me.
Let me know how it works for you to disrespect the rules up front, then ask for help to root your prime.
Back to doing the work for you....
Unlock ithttp://transformerprimeroot.com/tra...ow-to-unlock-bootloader-on-transformer-prime/
Flash CWM recoveryhttp://transformerprimeroot.com/tra...orkmod-recovery-5-8-2-0-on-transformer-prime/
Now flash a pre rooted ROM...(I trust you can find that yourself, or do I need to tell you which rom to install)
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
first downgrade firmware to .15 and then root
You can downgrade your firmware to .15 and then root it
Use Voodoo rootkeeper and upgrade to .21
Pm me if you need any help
Hey Sam,
Is there any disadvantage to unlocking and installing a custom rom vs downgrading and rooting then upgrading?
or does the voodoo rootkeeper not unlock the device so warranty still intact?
Thanks
K
sam_t610 said:
You can downgrade your firmware to .15 and then root it
Use Voodoo rootkeeper and upgrade to .21
Pm me if you need any help
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to downgrade do you need to unlock?
can you even downgrade with asus blob?
i thought it'll just tell you, you have the latest firmware and can't excute the firmware(.15) you want it to do
correct me if i'm wrong, =D
please tell me that i'm wrong as i needed to send my tab to RMA
so no more root ;-;
My understanding is you can't downgrade the firmware without unlocking. So for those of us who are on .21 who want root without unlocking it isn't currently possible. Correct me if I'm wrong.
No need to unlock
You just need to download .15 firmware and rename it as .21 and put in on sdcard
follow this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492887
One downloaded root and keep root using voodoo rootkeepr...do not unlock
and dont try this method on unlocked prime, it will brick
From the post you're referring to:
Requirements: root access
Sorry but don't think your method's gonna work.
svladimir said:
From the post you're referring to:
Requirements: root access
Sorry but don't think your method's gonna work.
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Correct, and this is confirmed by several users in that thread as well. Still need to wait for another way to root .21.
So if I have a new prime and it has .15 and I want root I should do using Viper and then install rootkeeper and then update to .21 ?
thekayman said:
So if I have a new prime and it has .15 and I want root I should do using Viper and then install rootkeeper and then update to .21 ?
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YES make sure you use rootkeeper BEFORE updating to .21 though that is what people seem to forget
NeoMagus said:
YES make sure you use rootkeeper BEFORE updating to .21 though that is what people seem to forget
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Thanks for the quick reply, so If I want to unroot I can use Viper too and will i be back to stock if I wanted to return? and I saw in the viper post about recovery is that reversible if I do a firmware reset?
EDIT: just worked out you can only install CWM after unlocking so I'm not going to that stage just yet and once unlocked there is no going back so makes the recovery restore question obsolete.
No patience?? theres only one way
Whats the big deal about unlocking....
If you want your device rooted, unlock...install cwm.....flash prerooted rom....
Why so many people trying strange methods, i dont understand.
You would rather risk BRICKing your device trying to bypass the UNLOCK??
I just thinks people are odd, why not just unlock to get a root.....
or
WAIT till a root method is developed for .21....
Not everyone wants to unlock.. perfectly fine here using stock rom instead of hacked roms keep in mind if you do unlock instead of wait for a new exploit you WILL lose the ability to OTA (so then theres no need for rootkeeper obviously), so all your future updates youll have to do yourself thru CWM, not to mention your warranty
sam_t610 said:
You can downgrade your firmware to .15 and then root it
Use Voodoo rootkeeper and upgrade to .21
Pm me if you need any help
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actually i dont think this is true, to downgrade you need root access... you have to run console as SU and enter some commands, unless you know a way to do it without root in which case PLEASE share!
Also, OP couldnt you find that theres no root yet just by hitting the search button? Seriously, once theres a root for .21 it will be posted everywhere...
pileot said:
Also, OP couldnt you find that theres no root yet just by hitting the search button? Seriously, once theres a root for .21 it will be posted everywhere...
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No need for that, if you read the thread, YOU WOULD KNOW
he has already been warned by a mod.....
No need to bash him any more....
Why dont you post something useful.
The OP has already unlocked his Prime, I am helping him to get a prerooted rom on it.....
So yeah... I was in a rush to fix my phone and I followed this tut due to its simpleness (don't know if that word actually exists.)
http://www.blogotechblog.com/2012/03/samsung-galaxy-s2-i777-official-ice-cream-sandwich/
Thing is it actually fixed the phone and installed the OTA ICS. But it goot unrooted again...
Now, I know I deserve it for wandering out of your ever mercyful xda-comunity noob poultry yard. But I was wondering if you guys know a way to root this thing again.
Tho, I do like the interface I'm curious about the full and pure Google experience.
Thanks in advance my fellas. I'm counting on you as always.
gillmanguera said:
So yeah... I was in a rush to fix my phone and I followed this tut due to its simpleness (don't know if that word actually exists.)
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Next time, stop rushing and do some research first. There is no official "OTA ICS". You used a leaked unfinished build, and the wrong one at that. If you found XDA, you should've been able to find all the info you needed in the Development forum.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using Tapatalk
You should probably Odin back to stock first. Then if you want the AT&T ICS leak, use my guide to install a ClockworkMod Recovery enabled kernel, then flash the UCLD3 leak package by Task650.
No, the OTA ICS cannot be rooted because you can't root that which DOES NOT EXIST.
In anticipation of ICS coming out. as it was just released for the atrix 2. I was wondering how do i go about rolling my phone back to stock to get ICS or Can i just got straight on with an OTA?
djshadowxm81 said:
In anticipation of ICS coming out. as it was just released for the atrix 2. I was wondering how do i go about rolling my phone back to stock to get ICS or Can i just got straight on with an OTA?
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1) wrong forum
2) no you cant get an OTA with nottach (use search feature to find a stock rom)
3) when an update is made available there is a 99% chance someone will post a CWM/TWRP flashable zip within hours/days.
4) use search feature to find things before making posts in the wrong forum.
Random Canadian said:
1) wrong forum
4) use search feature to find things before making posts in the wrong forum.
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1 Didn't know...
4.. I did quite a bit. thank you
either way thanks that all the information ineeded
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30540799&postcount=2
djshadowxm81 said:
In anticipation of ICS coming out. as it was just released for the atrix 2. I was wondering how do i go about rolling my phone back to stock to get ICS or Can i just got straight on with an OTA?
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Wait, what country is your phone from? There's different versions of the Atrix, but there's next to no visible differences. They can't take the same firmware without a fix.
Any blur based ROM can receive updates from Motorola. However, this is not a good idea if you have an unlocked bootloader since there is a high risk of hard bricking your device. This happened with the 4.5.141 update, and the same could happen again (assuming we ever get ICS).
The safest option is to wait until an ICS fruit cake is available.