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Enjoy! This thing is looking amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1IhrSjMy0Q&feature=youtu.be
XxDjbluexX said:
Enjoy! This thing is looking amazing.
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thats what she...
anyway, I cant wait to get my hands on this. I wonder if sprint stores will have them at opening? I got my reserved does that guarantee I will get one?
that was a pretty good first review, he covered most of my questions.
I'll go ahead and ask, why such a dramatic difference in bench scores between the E3D and the SGS2? I know everyone says "scores don't matter", but it begs the question if they are utilizing similar hardware. Also, I understand that the current set of bench marking test probably do not account for a dual core proc.
The benchmarks also don't account for the higher resolution/pixel count on the E3d.
I think the reason he couldn't find The Green Hornet was cause I read that it came preloaded on the microsd card.... or like he said cause its a preproduction phone
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJwRH9Sc51Q
here is another new video, from radioshack
Gotta say I'm.pretty impressed..I'm even more excited..the camera and videos looked great..there is def something up with the benchmarks bc this thing flies
I heard its because quadrant is only reading one core cause they haven't updated for the new snapdragon
firmbiz94 said:
Gotta say I'm.pretty impressed..I'm even more excited..the camera and videos looked great..there is def something up with the benchmarks bc this thing flies
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very low quadrant score 2193, lg optimus 3d has got 2900, SGII 3500
very low smartbench score(game score) 1688 , lg optimus 3d-2822
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very low quadrant score 2193, lg optimus 3d has got 2900, SGII 3500
very low smartbench score(game score) 1688 , lg optimus 3d-2822
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Because a useless horribly made app that isn't even optimized for QHD High resolution screens or dual cores defines a phone in the real world...
Same goes for linpack and smartbench and any other apps that claim to "benchmark" devices
My g2x overclocked to 1.5ghz hit 5100 on quadrant yet it wasn't up to my standards or others at that
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docmalc said:
I think the reason he couldn't find The Green Hornet was cause I read that it came preloaded on the microsd card.... or like he said cause its a preproduction phone
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it was on his phone. I saw the icon when he first started talking about the apps. He mustve just missed it
not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere.. but if you go through a cashback site (fat wallet) you get $25 back from wirefly. Pre-ordered mine for 179.99 - $25 cb = $154.99 no taxt and free standard shipping.
still no answer about gorilla glass
The real reason behind the benchmarksbis not because the e3d soc is half as powerful as the others its bc its the only soc that has asynchronous cores..quadrant and other can account for the dual cores ..look at the gs2 its off the chart..but the e3d core does not run the same clock speeds on each core..its actually a benefit..an optimization..take those benchmarks.with a grain of salt..if.the processor suck its couldn't eat through 1080p video or run so smoothly..
Was anyone else impressed with the camera quality? Still shots were pretty good, but the reviewer recorded and showed a video recorded in QHD (960 x 540) resolution. It wasn't even 720p and the video quality and audio quality were pretty damn good, imo.
DesJR9 said:
Was anyone else impressed with the camera quality? Still shots were pretty good, but the reviewer recorded and showed a video recorded in QHD (960 x 540) resolution. It wasn't even 720p and the video quality and audio quality were pretty damn good, imo.
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I agree I thought they looked great..one of the best I've seen..an evo woth sick camera _phone seks
nate420 said:
Because a useless horribly made app that isn't even optimized for QHD High resolution screens or dual cores defines a phone in the real world...
Same goes for linpack and smartbench and any other apps that claim to "benchmark" devices
My g2x overclocked to 1.5ghz hit 5100 on quadrant yet it wasn't up to my standards or others at that
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I thought i read somewhere that android os wont take full advantage of multi core system untill ICS comes out? That is prob part of the reason as well.
djdisturbed said:
I thought i read somewhere that android os wont take full advantage of multi core system untill ICS comes out? That is prob part of the reason as well.
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Ice cream will take full advantage of dual core...
But even smartbench claims to be "optimized" for dual core devices... Even though they still have problems reading some dual core frequencies...
My advise don't buy a phone for benchmark scores and reciews....buy it because it will suit your every day needs.... Or dreams (3d video/pictures)
Yes take reviews and benchmarks into consideration but don't base your money on other peoples bias opitions and ****ty coded apps....
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nate420 said:
Ice cream will take full advantage of dual core...
But even smartbench claims to be "optimized" for dual core devices... Even though they still have problems reading some dual core frequencies...
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I can add a bit here...
Smartbench 2011 is optimized for multi-cores (4 cores to be exact). It creates 4 identical threads that are assigned with identical workloads. Whether your phone has 2 or 4 cores, Smartbench (version 2011 only, 2010 was not designed to use multi-cores) will keep them busy, I can assure you.
I do have a problem with reading frequency though. One of the ROM developer has kindly given me some clues as to why this is happening. It is mainly around Tegra 2 devices that don't correctly report the right frequency when it is set. Also, the Sensation seems to be reporting it as zero as well. In the future versions, I will try to measure the clock speed during the run time without affecting the benchmark scores. It will be interesting to see how this works out on async processors such as the ones in the Sensation and this.
And once again, here's a article that explains facts on dual-core support for Android OS. It really doesn't require Ice Cream - Froyo with SMP will utilize both cores just fine:
http://bit.ly/jHw7Ga
I've noticed that the evo 3d has been scoring lower than the sensation, which is spec'd performance-wise. Exactly the same except for the evo having more ram. So I don't really understand why it would eb scoeing lower
Also if you're here to try and dispute the credibility of benchmarks leave now because that's not the point of this topic.
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Well, the Evo 3D does have the ability to do 3D, so I imagine it will take up some resources, but I have a feeling that the benchmark scores will only get better as HTC and Sprint release updates and fixes for it.
Probably the bloatware
Benchmarks are boo boo! For a benchmark to read correctly the cores need to be ramped up to max for the test. The app does not draw full ramp from the dual cores. Plus they are asynchronous, once we root and have kernel source for added tweeks we will blow tegra away (even with tegra tweeked)!
For the most part synthetic benchmarks are not really useful. How much are they off anyways? I'll bet you'll never notice the difference.
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because you touch yourself at night.
cordell12 said:
Benchmarks are boo boo! For a benchmark to read correctly the cores need to be ramped up to max for the test. The app does not draw full ramp from the dual cores. Plus they are asynchronous, once we root and have kernel source for added tweeks we will blow tegra away (even with tegra tweeked)!
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pretty much what I came into say. the Nexus S scores don't blow you away before you root either,but once Rooted, it is capable of truly amazing power.
pretty much every review says the Evo 3d feels much faster and much more fluid than the sensation.
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because you touch yourself at night.
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LMAO!
10 char
the processor is an ASYNC and the cores are able to run at different speeds for different task. The programs testing are better suited to your normal SYNC processor which are both always running at full all the time.
The need to write code to take advantage of the ASYNC and its methods to reach max must be included in the programming before they will ever be able to measure the full potential of the ASYNC.
you could say in those test I could garuntee you one processor is running max one is not. if at all. But if it is. its just a little as the program has not told it to run both processors at max if its a ASYNC,
ADD the qHD and the program would need to account for that.
imagine if the screen was amoled or just 800 x 480. this thing would be brutal beast.
but at the end of the day I love HTC phones.
HTC Sense is known to produce low benchmark scores. Once AOSP gets on this baby, it will fly through the irrelevant benchmarks like nothing.
Not only that but benchmarks are known to produce pointless infighting and petty bickering over measures that are not only highly suspect but also not related to actual use...
...or so the old wives tale goes...
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xdmds said:
I've noticed that the evo 3d has been scoring lower than the sensation, which is spec'd performance-wise. Exactly the same except for the evo having more ram. So I don't really understand why it would eb scoeing lower
Also if you're here to try and dispute the credibility of benchmarks leave now because that's not the point of this topic.
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Actually, check out Anandtech's bench of the Evo 3D and Sensation from a couple of weeks ago, and the check out the same bench of those 2 devices when they tested the Droid 3 a couple of days ago.
Comparing the scores, the 3vo scored the same both times. First time it was higher than the Sensation, and second time lower. So somewhere in between, the Sensation got a software update that made it score higher on those benchmarks. I'm guessing we'll see the same kind of improvement with the 3vo in time.
leaving now. Just beating a dead horse here, this has been debated a million times.
your holding it wrong?
NewZJ said:
your holding it wrong?
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Yeah he should call up for his free rubber band.
freeza said:
HTC Sense is known to produce low benchmark scores. Once AOSP gets on this baby, it will fly through the irrelevant benchmarks like nothing.
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While I did run asop on my evo no way will an asop rom touch my evo 3d. Sense 3.0 is great and I doubt asop will supoort 3d.
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I hate people who point out benchmarks on a phone... :|
LOL if htc's scrap snapdragon duel core had good benchmarks I bet all of you would be posting about how elite your phone is and how good it does in benchmarks but since it sucks you say benchmarks don't matter. Don't fool yourself benchmarks do matter. Yes quadrant can be tricked by unlocked phones with edits but benchmarks ran on tegra 2 & crap snapdragon using smartbench 2011 (does use both cores) gives realistic performance.
evo 3d
2089 cpu
1648 gpu (lol slower then galaxy s 1)
tegra 2 (stock atrix 2.3.4 with crap motoblur)
2737 cpu
2661 gpu
tegra 2 overclocked
3989 cpu
2900 gpu
shep211 said:
LOL if htc's scrap snapdragon duel core had good benchmarks I bet all of you would be posting about how elite your phone is and how good it does in benchmarks but since it sucks you say benchmarks don't matter. Don't fool yourself benchmarks do matter. Yes quadrant can be tricked by unlocked phones with edits but benchmarks ran on tegra 2 & crap snapdragon using smartbench 2011 (does use both cores) gives realistic performance.
evo 3d
2089 cpu
1648 gpu (lol slower then galaxy s 1)
tegra 2 (stock atrix 2.3.4 with crap motoblur)
2737 cpu
2661 gpu
tegra 2 overclocked
3989 cpu
2900 gpu
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Bro its because tegra manages different. Tegra uses both cores to do one single task. While the EVO 3D chip set is asynchronous. This means when you run a benchmark only one core is being processed during that application. The other core is running other processes to keep your EVO lag free and running smoothly. Benchmark is only a number anyway.
Remember this tho forever. benchmarks are like a girl in a bikini, they show a lot but not quite everything.
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How are other android touchpads doing? W / the 1.7ghz overclock I'm hitting a Max of 98ish mflops and 3300+ on quadrant! Which makes it my fastest Droid to date. Lets see if anybody can post a better quadrant screenshot?
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How are other android touchpads doing? W / the 1.7ghz overclock I'm hitting a Max of 98ish mflops and 3300+ on quadrant! Which makes it my fastest Droid to date. Lets see if anybody can post a better quadrant screenshot?
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i overclock my touchpad to 1.782 ghz. do you know how to overclock gpu
adreno 220 is in 266 mhz original but i need to overclock it to 300 mhz because its a very good frequency or 320 mhz
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Gotcha
Think I beat you
Fastest I've gotten. Have not really tried with the latest versions.
general feeling is that as far as benchmarks go, quadrant is crap
should try antutu instead.
ive a thread in this section somewhere where some people have posted results
This discussion seems a bit flawed, in that you're gauging performance based upon benchmark software, etc. We've talked about this a lot over the past year, and most of these tests are very dependent upon specific hardware setups, usually in much older devices with older chipsets. My Nexus S w/ a single-core 1ghz UNDERCLOCKED to 880mhz scores a 3500 all the time in Quadrant. No way in hell it's better than the touchpad. It's not even a fair fight, if you compare raw specs.
Do you judge the performance of your computer based on how fast it can perform iterations of Prime 95? No, you judge it based on user experience.
Is your user experience with CM7 very fast? I know mine is. Based on that, and the experience I get with gfx-intense apps like GTA3, etc, I say the performance is very good.
PS. The fact that Quadrant to this day still has the Nexus One as its top reference device says something about it being old and outdated. The Nexus One came out in Jan 2010, 2 years ago.
So i just ran a test for the antutu benchmark with just the phone and nothing else and this is what i got Ill be running quadrant bench test also and that will be in my next reply Cant wait for root and unlock!
EDIT: Heres quadrant test stock with no 4g or extra stuff
wow how is the Antutu score so high???
hairdewx said:
wow how is the Antutu score so high???
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quadcore and that 2gb of ram haha imagine if i put my 64gb sd card in there haha
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quadcore and that 2gb of ram haha imagine if i put my 64gb sd card in there haha
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Sd cards don't help performance.
I got an Antutu score of 18424 right after activation
For reference, my Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet only had scores in the 12,000 range... WOW
I just received my Galaxy Note II today and was a bit shocked that it scored a lower score in AnTuTu's benchmark than my HTC Droid DNA. Given that it has a faster CPU and less pixels to render, you would think it would be faster.
I scored 19164 with my HTC Droid DNA, which is much higher than the 18084 I got with the Galaxy Note II.
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I just received my Galaxy Note II today and was a bit shocked that it scored a lower score in AnTuTu's benchmark than my HTC Droid DNA. Given that it has a faster CPU and less pixels to render, you would think it would be faster.
I scored 19164 with my HTC Droid DNA, which is much higher than the 18084 I got with the Galaxy Note II.
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Processor is newere on the droid dna, I will always say we don't use benchmarks, so stop being disappointed in your score it by no means represents everyday use..They are both future proof for a few years..
I have to laugh at people who care about benchmark scores when they have a device with a quad core cpu in it running Android.
Haha I don't care really about benchmarks I was just impressed that's all. DNA is nice but I need sd card and something with battery life. Only got about 3/4 through a day on a full charge.
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My s3 scores 6200 on quadrant, 11000 on antutu...tells you benchmarks are worthless.
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My s3 scores 6200 on quadrant, 11000 on antutu...tells you benchmarks are worthless.
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Im guessing rooted and unlocked? lol i got mine up 12000 rooted with a different kernal. As long as the phone runs fast and smooth i could care less lol
Benchmarks are far from worthless. They are an objective indicator of how certain components perform under the exact same stress test.
Now what you can say is worthless is people who look at a final score that is rather irrational instead of looking at individual component scores.
For example, CPU scores in these benchmarks is a clear indicator of which phone has a faster processor. While the very same phone that had a slower processor may have a significantly better GPU. What this means to the end user is that expect games to perform better on the slower CPU phone, but also expect things like web browsing to perform worse on the same device.
It's all objective comparisons, certainly not something to claim as "worthless" but at the same time if you do not look at it the right way and just throw a generic total score number around, then you won't be fairly comparing any two devices properly.
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Sd cards don't help performance.
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Wrong. The higher class sdcard, the faster the read/write speeds = better performance.
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Wrong. The higher class sdcard, the faster the read/write speeds = better performance.
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thank you :victory: My 64gb sd card increased the benchmark also. :good: And ya i usually look at certain things when running benchmarks but thats usually when im rooted and unlocked is when i really look at them closely.
After running Quadrant, my phone seems to warm up and each subsequent score is somewhat lower. I started at 6500 and it bottoms out around 6000. Anyone else have this heat problem?
Make sure everything is closed out when u run a test. It's putting everything to work in the phone so it's stressed out which could cause a lot of heat
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what apps is everyone using for their benchmark tests? i did antutu and quadrant, got 24,430 and 12292 respectively. are those good scores?
edit: i also ran vellamo and got 2081 on html5 and 814 on metal...
I got 12700 in Quadrant and 25524 in AnTuTu all stock. Benchmarks really don't mean much.
Other people run 3dmark and Geekbench too. And Epic Citadel.