Does the North America LTE Galaxy S III also rock the Wolfson DAC?
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Wondering about this too.
I read somewhere that it does not. I will dig up the link.
daraj said:
I read somewhere that it does not. I will dig up the link.
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Please do, I tried finding out if iFixit did the North American version, but no results
I really hope they stuck with the Wolfson DAC
It seems unlikely the LTE version will have Wolfson inside, but itcan't hurt to be optimistic
Does anyone have qualcomm/snapdragon dac audio quality experience?
I don't know how accurate this site is but according to it, it looks like some of the LTE Galaxy S III versions will come with Wolfson WM1811
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3533&view=1&c=verizon_samsung_sch-i535_galaxy_s3
i heard from a few semi reliable sources that we do not have one but no source was 100% believable because I've also read that we do
x_SCOS_x_ELITE said:
i heard from a few semi reliable sources that we do not have one but no source was 100% believable because I've also read that we do
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Here is your definitive answer:
The us version does NOT have the wolfson DAC.
This has been confirmed and posted here countless times.
It uses the onboard sound from qualcomm.
A quick search on xda and you would have found the answer.
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nodstuff said:
Here is your definitive answer:
The us version does NOT have the wolfson DAC.
This has been confirmed and posted here countless times.
It uses the onboard sound from qualcomm.
A quick search on xda and you would have found the answer.
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This.
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Just a quick question would it be possible to port roms from the international note to our atat note?
Possible? Maybe. Likely? No.
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severinca said:
Just a quick question would it be possible to port roms from the international note to our atat note?
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The hardware is completely different. We would have a better chance porting from the skyrocket and/or tmobile SGS2.
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Been working on that but the resolution is all jacked up.
From what I am finding it is actually easier to kang bits and pieces from either.
A conversion is not likely in either case
Romee74 said:
The hardware is completely different. We would have a better chance porting from the skyrocket and/or tmobile SGS2.
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Or maybe a hellraiser script from skyrocket roms?
Would it not be the same as porting a i9100 rom over to i777
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Would it not be the same as porting a i9100 rom over to i777
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Absolutely not, the att s2 has the exynos as does the international while the international note has an exynos and we have a snapdragon. Skyrocket to note is probably best but I have been unable to get thingsworking in any way whatsoever (mainly from lack of knowledge, BC it's def doable).
Ok makes sence thinks ill try and work on something
The issue is the difference in resolution....its slmost more worthwhile to start from scratch
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Or maybe a hellraiser script from skyrocket roms?
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Since all the LTE Variants have identical hardware, and radio, would you deem it possible to have interchangeable roms?
It should be just like the gnex have to change a couple things in build prop and a few files and should be good
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It should be just like the gnex have to change a couple things in build prop and a few files and should be good
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Then this is extremely exciting news, UNIFIED development!
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Then this is extremely exciting news, UNIFIED development!
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I agree, finally we should have good development for both the international, and the lte version
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I agree, finally we should have good development for both the international, and the lte version
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That makes me wonder, would all (AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, Sprint, Rogers, etc) the S4, LTE Devs share the same initial repository through Github for development and just branch off with the different Init.d, and radio files?
Is this how it's done for the Galaxy Nexus?
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That makes me wonder, would all (AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, Sprint, Rogers, etc) the S4, LTE Devs share the same initial repository through Github for development and just branch off with the different Init.d, and radio files?
Is this how it's done for the Galaxy Nexus?
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It will greatly reduce the time for getting aosp up and running as many more devs will be working with the same hardware....the only thing that really needs to be different is the device tree...porting from gsm to cdma and vice versa will be easy. Replace vendor folder in system then replace apns-conf.xml with the one for your phone.edit build prop and it should boot.you may have to fix a couple things but hard work is done.like with gnex all kernels should be interchangeable.....gsm kernels work with cdma and vice versa........
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It will greatly reduce the time for getting aosp up and running as many more devs will be working with the same hardware....the only thing that really needs to be different is the device tree...porting from gsm to cdma and vice versa will be easy. Replace vendor folder in system then replace apns-conf.xml with the one for your phone.edit build prop and it should boot.you may have to fix a couple things but hard work is done.like with gnex all kernels should be interchangeable.....gsm kernels work with cdma and vice versa........
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This sounds really sweet! Thank you for your input!
I'm glad to hear this as well. I do strongly believe that S4 variant should have a completely different forum.
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I'm glad to hear this as well. I do strongly believe that S4 variant should have a completely different forum.
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And it will, as soon as it starts being delivered. Earliest possible release is for CA on the 20th of June I believe.
Oh my god.
It's not a S4 variant if it's a SGS3 LTE.
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Oh my god.
It's not a S4 variant if it's a SGS3 LTE.
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Forgive me for reading between the lines , but I think he was saying that the North American versions with the same hardware should have their own forum section for development.
Which actually makes sense.
Becoming said:
Forgive me for reading between the lines , but I think he was saying that the North American versions with the same hardware should have their own forum section for development.
Which actually makes sense.
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I didn't read the whole thing.
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Oh my god.
It's not a S4 variant if it's a SGS3 LTE.
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S4 as in the processor
I expect the North American S4 variants to receive the best developer support to date for an Android phone! As it's been explained, it's basically the exact same phone across all of Canada and the US. And with the powerful processor and 2Gb RAM, we could be in for since amazing ROMs, hacks, tweaks, and more. Can't wait!
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Oh my god.
It's not a S4 variant if it's a SGS3 LTE.
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Lol I mean dual core processor s4 variant. I hate calling it dual core variant because many people may get offended and also it does not do justice to the hardware.
It's just so much easy to call it s4 variant.
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Not all the dual-core/2gb versions are going to be exactly identical hardware.
Docomo version has a digital TV tuner, dual-mode NFC-A/NFC-F but no FM radio.
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Not all the dual-core/2gb versions are going to be exactly identical hardware.
Docomo version has a digital TV tuner, dual-mode NFC-A/NFC-F but no FM radio.
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That's the Japanese version though, a minority in the grand stake of the North American variants
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Since all the LTE Variants have identical hardware, and radio, would you deem it possible to have interchangeable roms?
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Man that would be nice. I think once us Americans get our hands on the S4 variant we'll have some brave users who'll flash them and confirm if they work or not....not sure i'm gonna be one of them
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I think he was saying that the North American versions with the same hardware should have their own forum section for development.
Which actually makes sense.
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Agreed. It's been confirmed we are infact getting our own dev forum, the layout of which is still being discussed.
I don't think the S4 version will get as nearly as much development as everyone will go for the superior quad core version. 2GB ram is useless of you have a crippled copy to begin with.
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I don't think the S4 version will get as nearly as much development as everyone will go for the superior quad core version. 2GB ram is useless of you have a crippled copy to begin with.
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You think that the entire North American market is somehow tiny from a development standpoint?
Just how many people do you expect to pony up for a more expensive international version with more limited functionality on most carriers over here?
Statements like this just confuse the hell out of me. Though I really shouldn't be responding to trolls to begin with...
Will the issues with RIL keep us from getting AOSP ROMs on this device or is it something that Devs can overcome?
Sorry for the noobish question, but I've been reading this may be an issue that can't be solved.
I don't think this will be a problem if developers makes aosp for ICS and not for jellybean. This is a big problem for Resound aosp since developers wanted to fix RIL for ICS aosp but we still haven't gotten ICS officially and HTC never released ICS source. Plus side is Samsung released their source for gs3 on att and T-Mobile so we sld see it soon for verizon
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I don't think this will be a problem if developers makes aosp for ICS and not for jellybean. This is a big problem for Resound aosp since developers wanted to fix RIL for ICS aosp but we still haven't gotten ICS officially and HTC never released ICS source. Plus side is Samsung released their source for gs3 on att and T-Mobile so we sld see it soon for verizon
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I'm confused though, I thought the RILs were only a problem when devices shifted from Gingerbread to ICS due to how different they are. I would imagine actual hardware drivers are probably the same between ICS and JB, but I could be wrong.
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I don't think this will be a problem if developers makes aosp for ICS and not for jellybean. This is a big problem for Resound aosp since developers wanted to fix RIL for ICS aosp but we still haven't gotten ICS officially and HTC never released ICS source. Plus side is Samsung released their source for gs3 on att and T-Mobile so we sld see it soon for verizon
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They only released kernel source. Not the ril, from what I have seen. With the exception of the gnexus which we have the source for, no Samsung device has working aosp and 4g on Verizon. That's not saying we won't try, but I wouldn't expect cm9 this week...
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RIL will be a huge issue preventing AOSP ROMs. But this should be in the Q&A or general discussion section.
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RIL will be a huge issue preventing AOSP ROMs. But this should be in the Q&A or general discussion section.
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I think it's fair to say it will be our only issue. There will be many many peeps working on it though.
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Sorry about the wrong forum. I saw the Q&A one after I posted here.
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With all the variations we have of this device on AT&T, Sprint, T-Mo and Verizon utilizing the same chipset there is a definitely a possibility RIL will be cracked. I would imagine once it is figured out for a device on a specific carrier, it would be due time until that fix is ported to others.
With all the Devs I see who have picked up this device I have faith RIL will be cracked but obviously it will take time.
Pardon my ignorance of exactly how RIL works, but how different is each one for each carrier variation on a phone like this? Say someone in the Sprint community actually does the low-level dirty work and reverse-engineers their RIL line-by-line in smali. What would that mean for us? How different is a Sprint CDMA radio interface from a Verizon one on the same SoC? Obviously LTE would be a different story.
With the incredible number of people that are about to be behind this flagship phone, I have no doubt the RIL issue will be overcome regardless. This ain't no Droid Charge.
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Pardon my ignorance of exactly how RIL works, but how different is each one for each carrier variation on a phone like this? Say someone in the Sprint community actually does the low-level dirty work and reverse-engineers their RIL line-by-line in smali. What would that mean for us? How different is a Sprint CDMA radio interface from a Verizon one on the same SoC? Obviously LTE would be a different story.
With the incredible number of people that are about to be behind this flagship phone, I have no doubt the RIL issue will be overcome regardless. This ain't no Droid Charge.
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Probably not interchangeable, some parts of it maybe.
And Steve did you get a gs3. Sending this from aokp on your builds for fascinate
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Marcismo55 said:
With all the variations we have of this device on AT&T, Sprint, T-Mo and Verizon utilizing the same chipset there is a definitely a possibility RIL will be cracked. I would imagine once it is figured out for a device on a specific carrier, it would be due time until that fix is ported to others.
With all the Devs I see who have picked up this device I have faith RIL will be cracked but obviously it will take time.
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The other carriers use gsm their ril will do nothing for us.
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Probably not interchangeable, some parts of it maybe.
And Steve did you get a gs3. Sending this from aokp on your builds for fascinate
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It's in route should be in my hands by Saturday or Monday. I will not use touch wiz and be happy about it. At some point you will see aokp on this device. One way or another.
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Stephen.k.spear said:
The other carriers use gsm their ril will do nothing for us.
It's in route should be in my hands by Saturday or Monday. I will not use touch wiz and be happy about it. At some point you will see aokp on this device. One way or another.
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You just made my day
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You just made my day
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Thank you for the correction about RIL as well.
Stephen, will the RIL be the same for Sprint and US Cellular?
I hope the work is shareable across CDMA carriers.
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Stephen, will the RIL be the same for Sprint and US Cellular?
I hope the work is shareable across CDMA carriers.
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US cellular possibly, Sprints lte not wimax maybe.
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wrong forum this is for q and a
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wrong forum this is for q and a
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No, this is more or less apprpriate for this forum, during launch people would like to be able to see the status of development right away.
So you can take your 31 posts and go whine somewhere else.
I am going to be returning my iPad to get this phone outright. It has better get CM9 or AOKP.
I do wonder though concerning the LTE side how different the actual coding is per the different carriers. So like said before, for LTE, if someone cracked sprints, or AT&T's LTE coding, if it could be translated to Verizon.
Tell me if I am wrong, but don't all three carriers have identical phone hardware? All three have the same LTE chips, just set to run on different freq bands?
Forgive me if I sound skeptical, but why would the S3 be special?
Were the Strato and Charge simply not popular enough to get a healthy dev scene for RIL cracking?
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Forgive me if I sound skeptical, but why would the S3 be special?
Were the Strato and Charge simply not popular enough to get a healthy dev scene for RIL cracking?
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No, cause they were all basically rebadged phones. Charge was essentially a fascinate with 4g.
Strato was a repeat epic 4g, when the droid 2/3/4 had the reigns of keyboards already.
Is their one or not. This was the only reason I even considered the S3 . I am not reading of any posts regarding Voodoo and Supercurio doing his Captivate majic on this device...
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Yes for international quadcore version only.
I have the international quad core version and I didn't even know it existed or if it is any good but how does it fare compared to HoX's beats? or was the beats thing an app and not hardware?
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I have the international quad core version and I didn't even know it existed or if it is any good but how does it fare compared to HoX's beats? or was the beats thing an app and not hardware?
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Beats is SW. The Wolfson DAC is a hardware chip that spanks Yamaha's Samsung used in the SGS II and Note. Supercurio worte an excellent app for it. Sounded GREAT. It was the only reason I was considering the S3. ( I buy International devices exclusively)
I am hooing the Note II uses the sane DAC. ..
According to them: In the world of Audio Purist or shall we say "Audiophile", Beats be it headphones or software sound enhancements are crap/overpriced bling2x thingy...
Yes, it has a Wolfson DAC. I wouldn't have bought it if it didn't.
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According to them: In the world of Audio Purist or shall we say "Audiophile", Beats be it headphones or software sound enhancements are crap/overpriced bling2x thingy...
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Strike audiophile, anyone who has heard decent quality sound - especially Voodoo Sound - will vouch for Beats being complete ****e in all its iterations, both software and hardware.
The One X is a lovely phone, but the S III completely trounces it sound-wise. Hopefully we'll see something from Supercurio soon, his perfectionism means it'll be worth the wait, buy it doesn't make the wait much easier.
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Thanks for the clarification, more reason to enjoy my first android smartphone since HoX fanboys are everywhere making me doubt my purchase but will the note 2 come with the wolfson dac or yamaha chip?
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Thanks for the clarification, more reason to enjoy my first android smartphone since HoX fanboys are everywhere making me doubt my purchase but will the note 2 come with the wolfson dac or yamaha chip?
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my best guess is that it will be an iteration of the Wolfson DAC very similar if not the same found in your GS III of course this is just pure speculation
their is one for international alright.
but all we get is TEASE.
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radeonxt said:
their is one for international alright.
but all we get is TEASE.
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check the official sound quality thread for more info.
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check the official sound quality thread for more info.
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someone obviously didn't get what i mean.
so for all those who understood, stop wasting your time waiting.
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radeonxt said:
someone obviously didn't get what i mean.
so for all those who understood, stop wasting your time waiting.
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Im not losing hope for it to come. Im just pissed with the attitude lately...
Hello everybody.
Sorry in advance, I suppose that this question should be a sort of XDA trending topic during these days. However after a little search, I didn't find anything similar on the matter. Hence I'm opening a new thread. Feel free to close it if necessary
I suppose that somebody is already working on a "Google Edition" of i9300. A vanilla AOSP. Would it be so different from a classic CyanogenMod or AOKP?
Thank you for your answers.
Peace.
Will just look like the nexus but with a better camera and new bootanimation
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No it is not possible to directly port it as the Google Ed. phone runs Qualcomm's Snapdragon 600. The i9300's sorry excuse of an SoC is Exynos 4.
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No it is not possible to directly port it as the Google Ed. phone runs Qualcomm's Snapdragon 600. The i9300's sorry excuse of an SoC is Exynos 4.
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What's so bad with Exynos? When this device came out it was a beast compared any other on the market. So far we have a well established base of development and mods.
There is nothing wrong with Our SOC other than its now older than the newer devices.
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What's so bad with Exynos? When this device came out it was a beast compared any other on the market. So far we have a well established base of development and mods.
There is nothing wrong with Our SOC other than its now older than the newer devices.
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Nothing wrong? No sources and no documentation and what's on Insignal is almost entirely useless.
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Nothing wrong? No sources and no documentation and what's on Insignal is almost entirely useless.
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So for you its useless but my s3 is running like a champ since day one.
And hell, I don't even like AOSP Roms anymore. My opinion OK!!
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So for you its useless but my s3 is running like a champ since day one.
And hell, I don't even like AOSP Roms anymore. My opinion OK!!
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Yes, it's your opinion and you're entitled to one, but you're wrong when you say that there's nothing wrong with Exynos 4. Though I bet no SoC is per definition "perfect".
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Yes, it's your opinion and you're entitled to one, but you're wrong when you say that there's nothing wrong with Exynos 4. Though I bet no SoC is per definition "perfect".
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Its not bad its Samsung that's being secretive about its sources.
Of course I also though tegra was good until I got this phone.
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Samsung TW is slow, i have CM10.1 based its a lot faster and longer batterij
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coolnessQ said:
Samsung TW is slow, i have CM10.1 based its a lot faster and longer batterij
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Not as fast as it could be if the sources for the Exynos based processors were available.
To answer OPs question technically it is possible but it will require a lot of time and effort ..not to mention a lot of skill as well...the reason being both are quite different phones with different SoCs ..it would be somewhat easier to do it from the AOSP source code but as everyone already knows without documentation from Samsung that is again a difficult prospect ...none of the devs want to invest time in a project which they already know will be a a failure ...this is not about which is better TW or pure Google experience but about having a choice.
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Why would you want to when there are so many alternative versions out there?
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Not as fast as it could be if the sources for the Exynos based processors were available.
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Yeah thats true
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Thread closed as its a duplicate of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43047800#post43047800