RIL Question - Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)

Will the issues with RIL keep us from getting AOSP ROMs on this device or is it something that Devs can overcome?
Sorry for the noobish question, but I've been reading this may be an issue that can't be solved.

I don't think this will be a problem if developers makes aosp for ICS and not for jellybean. This is a big problem for Resound aosp since developers wanted to fix RIL for ICS aosp but we still haven't gotten ICS officially and HTC never released ICS source. Plus side is Samsung released their source for gs3 on att and T-Mobile so we sld see it soon for verizon
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killerT721 said:
I don't think this will be a problem if developers makes aosp for ICS and not for jellybean. This is a big problem for Resound aosp since developers wanted to fix RIL for ICS aosp but we still haven't gotten ICS officially and HTC never released ICS source. Plus side is Samsung released their source for gs3 on att and T-Mobile so we sld see it soon for verizon
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I'm confused though, I thought the RILs were only a problem when devices shifted from Gingerbread to ICS due to how different they are. I would imagine actual hardware drivers are probably the same between ICS and JB, but I could be wrong.

killerT721 said:
I don't think this will be a problem if developers makes aosp for ICS and not for jellybean. This is a big problem for Resound aosp since developers wanted to fix RIL for ICS aosp but we still haven't gotten ICS officially and HTC never released ICS source. Plus side is Samsung released their source for gs3 on att and T-Mobile so we sld see it soon for verizon
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They only released kernel source. Not the ril, from what I have seen. With the exception of the gnexus which we have the source for, no Samsung device has working aosp and 4g on Verizon. That's not saying we won't try, but I wouldn't expect cm9 this week...
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RIL will be a huge issue preventing AOSP ROMs. But this should be in the Q&A or general discussion section.

tekhna said:
RIL will be a huge issue preventing AOSP ROMs. But this should be in the Q&A or general discussion section.
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I think it's fair to say it will be our only issue. There will be many many peeps working on it though.
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Sorry about the wrong forum. I saw the Q&A one after I posted here.
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With all the variations we have of this device on AT&T, Sprint, T-Mo and Verizon utilizing the same chipset there is a definitely a possibility RIL will be cracked. I would imagine once it is figured out for a device on a specific carrier, it would be due time until that fix is ported to others.
With all the Devs I see who have picked up this device I have faith RIL will be cracked but obviously it will take time.

Pardon my ignorance of exactly how RIL works, but how different is each one for each carrier variation on a phone like this? Say someone in the Sprint community actually does the low-level dirty work and reverse-engineers their RIL line-by-line in smali. What would that mean for us? How different is a Sprint CDMA radio interface from a Verizon one on the same SoC? Obviously LTE would be a different story.
With the incredible number of people that are about to be behind this flagship phone, I have no doubt the RIL issue will be overcome regardless. This ain't no Droid Charge.

stiltzkin said:
Pardon my ignorance of exactly how RIL works, but how different is each one for each carrier variation on a phone like this? Say someone in the Sprint community actually does the low-level dirty work and reverse-engineers their RIL line-by-line in smali. What would that mean for us? How different is a Sprint CDMA radio interface from a Verizon one on the same SoC? Obviously LTE would be a different story.
With the incredible number of people that are about to be behind this flagship phone, I have no doubt the RIL issue will be overcome regardless. This ain't no Droid Charge.
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Probably not interchangeable, some parts of it maybe.
And Steve did you get a gs3. Sending this from aokp on your builds for fascinate
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Marcismo55 said:
With all the variations we have of this device on AT&T, Sprint, T-Mo and Verizon utilizing the same chipset there is a definitely a possibility RIL will be cracked. I would imagine once it is figured out for a device on a specific carrier, it would be due time until that fix is ported to others.
With all the Devs I see who have picked up this device I have faith RIL will be cracked but obviously it will take time.
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The other carriers use gsm their ril will do nothing for us.
tonu42 said:
Probably not interchangeable, some parts of it maybe.
And Steve did you get a gs3. Sending this from aokp on your builds for fascinate
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It's in route should be in my hands by Saturday or Monday. I will not use touch wiz and be happy about it. At some point you will see aokp on this device. One way or another.
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Stephen.k.spear said:
The other carriers use gsm their ril will do nothing for us.
It's in route should be in my hands by Saturday or Monday. I will not use touch wiz and be happy about it. At some point you will see aokp on this device. One way or another.
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You just made my day
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You just made my day
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Thank you for the correction about RIL as well.

Stephen, will the RIL be the same for Sprint and US Cellular?
I hope the work is shareable across CDMA carriers.

LLStarks said:
Stephen, will the RIL be the same for Sprint and US Cellular?
I hope the work is shareable across CDMA carriers.
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US cellular possibly, Sprints lte not wimax maybe.
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Stryker1297 said:
wrong forum this is for q and a
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No, this is more or less apprpriate for this forum, during launch people would like to be able to see the status of development right away.
So you can take your 31 posts and go whine somewhere else.

I am going to be returning my iPad to get this phone outright. It has better get CM9 or AOKP.
I do wonder though concerning the LTE side how different the actual coding is per the different carriers. So like said before, for LTE, if someone cracked sprints, or AT&T's LTE coding, if it could be translated to Verizon.
Tell me if I am wrong, but don't all three carriers have identical phone hardware? All three have the same LTE chips, just set to run on different freq bands?

Forgive me if I sound skeptical, but why would the S3 be special?
Were the Strato and Charge simply not popular enough to get a healthy dev scene for RIL cracking?

LLStarks said:
Forgive me if I sound skeptical, but why would the S3 be special?
Were the Strato and Charge simply not popular enough to get a healthy dev scene for RIL cracking?
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No, cause they were all basically rebadged phones. Charge was essentially a fascinate with 4g.
Strato was a repeat epic 4g, when the droid 2/3/4 had the reigns of keyboards already.

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Will Jellybean be supported?

Will we see support? or is this solely going to be on our developers for this phone?
By AT&T? Highly doubtful.
Release a free update to JellyBean and NOT force us to buy a new phone in order to continue to be supported?
Silly.
the support we get from the developers here far exceeds the support we get from AT&T...
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wonner said:
By AT&T? Highly doubtful.
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Why doubt that AT&T will help us out? I'm sure if enough Galaxy II users call in and ask about an update it might happen. Wishful thinking but you never know.
dominuce00 said:
Why doubt that AT&T will help us out? I'm sure if enough Galaxy II users call in and ask about an update it might happen. Wishful thinking but you never know.
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Because at&t never liked to help us out
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Why doubt that AT&T will help us out? I'm sure if enough Galaxy II users call in and ask about an update it might happen. Wishful thinking but you never know.
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because AT&T would rather sell you a new, subsidized device and rope you into a new 2 year contract than to use resources to push out an update that gets them zero income and might encourage some users to live out their two years and potentially go elsewhere...
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As JB source code was released yesterday, we should see devs attempting to port JB goodness on the i777. AT&T will not push our I777 to 4.1. Highly doubt AT&T would support this device anymore...
To be fair, the Captivate saw an upgrade from Eclair to GB.... though it took forever. So, I wouldn't say it's highly unlikely, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Lawrence of a Labia said:
To be fair, the Captivate saw an upgrade from Eclair to GB.... though it took forever. So, I wouldn't say it's highly unlikely, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Most people don't want to wait that long
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It's there is a major release, I think they will put it out for us (albeit late) but not this "minor" update.
Clay
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From AT&T officially, the SII already got its two free upgrades and that was from 2.3.4 to 2.3.6 then recently to 4.0.3 so AT&T is probably going to put the SII on EOL (end of life) soon as they move on to the SIII, HOX and AtrixHD.
From XDA, it will more than likely be supported for awhile as its still one of the best devices ever created.
Even if at&t came out with an official release (highly unlikely) it would still suck compared to the work done by our devs here
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dandrumheller said:
the support we get from the developers here far exceeds the support we get from AT&T...
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AT&T has already killed off the i777. You can only buy the skyrocket in stores now. They would rather you buy new than update old. Look how long it took our phone to get "official" ICS... Dandrumheller is totally right - our faithful devs are powerhouses compared to AT&T. While AT&T wants to sell us something, our devs want to help. i'm sure 4.1 will be ported, just give the devs time to make sure things work.
I agree! The developers are still moving forward with JB for the GS II and I am hopeful that in 2-3 weeks we will begin to see progress in geting a functioning JB based ROM for I777.
Dont bet on it
I highly doubt we'll get JB. Took far too long to get a rough version of ICS, and I know AT&T won't hesitate to make any attempt to get us to purchase new devices/contracts.
xamadeix said:
Will we see support? or is this solely going to be on our developers for this phone?
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Don't so sure, it might be a while, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28809953&postcount=43
Well I'm sure it'll be a while, but jelly bean isn't the huge upgrade that ics was. I mean it's a big jump, but imo(and that's all it is, my opinion)jellybean may be just a smoothing out and bug removal of whatever they couldn't get done in time to add into ics.
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Phalanx7621 said:
Well I'm sure it'll be a while, but jelly bean isn't the huge upgrade that ics was. I mean it's a big jump, but imo(and that's all it is, my opinion)jellybean may be just a smoothing out and bug removal of whatever they couldn't get done in time to add into ics.
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I would consider smoothing out and bug removal a significant update
Irrelevant...
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I would consider smoothing out and bug removal a significant update
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Why would you want to run a stock ROM from the phone company. There are good stable custom ROMs that are better, adopt features sooner, and have better support. For example, there's no better support you can get than from ShoStock2. If you have a question, and it's not abnormal, the developer generally answers you, one-on-one. If it's a real problem, and fixable, it will prob be fixed in a couple of weeks.
If you call ATT you have to get plassed to tier-2 then to an engineer who will prob say it will be fixed in the next release - which will be 12 months.
Why wouldn't you root your phone?? That's my question.

CM9 RC2.....many devices getting love except

http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-9-rc2-emerges-new-devices-stability-improvements
So its not like I didn't see it coming when samsung hired steve, but geeeeez. Samsung devices are #1 priority I guess these days. I liked it better when the love was more evenly distibuted. But its good news anyway.
I think this is more news worthy:
CM9? Bleh, who cares.
Samsung also donated some devices to the CM team a while back, and generally release source faster than HTC.
don't they also have a bigger market share?
I haven't had a Samsung smartphone, just posting from what I've seen
miguelfp1 said:
Samsung also donated some devices to the CM team a while back, and generally release source faster than HTC.
don't they also have a bigger market share?
I haven't had a Samsung smartphone, just posting from what I've seen
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Pretty sure Sammy is the biggest smart phone manufacturer in the world.
Honestly, the next phone I get, HTC and Sammy are battling for my money. I said after my Epic that I would never buy another Sammy phone, so I skipped the SII in favor Photon because I felt the 3D was useless. Now that I've played with the SIII and the EVO LTE I am fairly equally impressed by both devices.
It's going to come down to support and device build, who releases source the fastest and who updates the devices the best and which one builds the best feeling device.
Assuming there is an S4 and Sammy doesn't blow it, I could very well see my self getting it.
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I think this is more news worthy:
CM9? Bleh, who cares.
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LOL, yea I saw that. Exciting, although I don't expect to see it close to a RC for another few months.
swaze said:
LOL, yea I saw that. Exciting, although I don't expect to see it close to a RC for another few months.
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Few months for RC, yeah...hell some CM's never leave Alpha haha.
Suitable for Daily Driving in a few weeks at most I would say.
where would one find this ROM?
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where would one find this ROM?
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Not released yet. Still No Wifi and the RIL isn't playing nicely - as is almost always the case with CDMA devices - so No Voice or Data either.
Pretty much from what I gathered it boots and runs and that's about it.
We would get this if we had official support. We knew it wasn't coming for us.
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Samsung doesn't release sources quicker than HTC.
And Samsung thinks it's fun to brick our devices. Google emmc brick bug.
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MemoryController said:
Samsung doesn't release sources quicker than HTC.
And Samsung thinks it's fun to brick our devices. Google emmc brick bug.
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They have been lately.
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What? Still no 4.0.4 kernel sources
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Kcarpenter said:
Pretty sure Sammy is the biggest smart phone manufacturer in the world.
Honestly, the next phone I get, HTC and Sammy are battling for my money. I said after my Epic that I would never buy another Sammy phone, so I skipped the SII in favor Photon because I felt the 3D was useless. Now that I've played with the SIII and the EVO LTE I am fairly equally impressed by both devices.
It's going to come down to support and device build, who releases source the fastest and who updates the devices the best and which one builds the best feeling device.
Assuming there is an S4 and Sammy doesn't blow it, I could very well see my self getting it.
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Does Sammy make all of the Nexus phones? I would get that if I were you, and you're interested in getting lots of updates and development. That'll be my next phone if Sprint doesn't wait 6 months after release to sell it.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Does Sammy make all of the Nexus phones? I would get that if I were you, and you're interested in getting lots of updates and development. That'll be my next phone if Sprint doesn't wait 6 months after release to sell it.
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They don't make all of the nexus line.. HTC had one early on. Google has just chosen to go with sammy lately
MemoryController said:
Samsung doesn't release sources quicker than HTC.
And Samsung thinks it's fun to brick our devices. Google emmc brick bug.
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SIII source was available as soon as the phone was released.
Rxpert said:
SIII source was available as soon as the phone was released.
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Source for the Epic 4G Touch was also released shortly before it got its ICS update. Samsung definitely knows how to please the community.
SoraX64 said:
We would get this if we had official support. We knew it wasn't coming for us.
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Who said we weren't getting official cm? The source was just released sooooooo
eao1991 said:
Source for the Epic 4G Touch was also released shortly before it got its ICS update. Samsung definitely knows how to please the community.
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Unless you take into account they're timely updates
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Who said we weren't getting official cm? The source was just released sooooooo
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I think he just meant we should have known we weren't getting RC2 since we haven't obtained official support yet.
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Unless you take into account they're timely updates
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Samsung does update quick. Ignoring the wider user base of GSM carriers, CDMA carriers such as VZW and Sprint always tend to lag behind updates. Due to CDMA restrictions that can't be open-sourced, Samsung doesn't control the entire software update and adds to the delay. Take a look at devices that were released with Gingerbread and see how many of those have ICS. Chances are they're almost all GSM devices.The HTC Rezound on Verizon came out later than the Epic 4G Touch and has yet to see ICS. The Evo 3D and Design 4G won't see ICS till next month. Besides, the Epic 4G Touch was receiving ICS leaks since early this year.
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Who said we weren't getting official cm? The source was just released sooooooo
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No one said that. But we DON'T as of now so of course we didn't get the update.
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Waiting for CM10 thread

Having been burned on an HTC phone that never saw good developer support (HTC Amaze 4G) I am on pins and needles to learn if CM10 will be supported for this device. What about you?
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riprowan said:
Having been burned on an HTC phone that never saw good developer support (HTC Amaze 4G) I am on pins and needles to learn if CM10 will be supported for this device. What about you?
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Probably not officially supported, but I've seen CM7/9/10 on the Droid Inc (my first android phone) and CM9 plus currently working on CM10 on Rezound (my 2nd android phone).. AFAIK, thunderbolt has CM7 and CM9, and I can honestly see some Cyanogen in this phones future
Id like to see it but either way one has to wait for HTC to release the kernel to start original development right?
Yes it is supported....
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Having been burned on an HTC phone that never saw good developer support (HTC Amaze 4G) I am on pins and needles to learn if CM10 will be supported for this device. What about you?
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Search google, as I just did and there are step by step instructions available how to install CM10 on ur device....would have posted the link but as per forum rules I cannot do so bcoz I am a new to this forum
Yes there is a CM10 build available, however it does not (and probably never will) have working data. Smart phone without data equals dumb phone.
Fortunately there are a couple of talented themers who have put a lot of nice lipstick on the HTC/sense UI (EclipszeRemix) which is good but not the same thing as stock.
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riprowan said:
Yes there is a CM10 build available, however it does not (and probably never will) have working data. Smart phone without data equals dumb phone.
Fortunately there are a couple of talented themers who have put a lot of nice lipstick on the HTC/sense UI (EclipszeRemix) which is good but not the same thing as stock.
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How could you say it will never have data?? Do you develops for cm? Don't make statements that aren't true.
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How could you say it will never have data?? Do you develops for cm? Don't make statements that aren't true.
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His device is somewhat old, so that's why he assumed that it may never have data on CM. Once a device has been out for some time, it loses support as devs move on to new devices. It's the circle of life.
There has been trouble getting CM to work on the last several verizon HTC phones. Even if they get a port working, there are usually broken features due to HTC's changes to android (camera, BT stack, etc).
I guess your best bet is that if you really have to have CM10 on your device, you don't buy the device until CM10 is working to your liking. That will save everyone alot of headache of listening to users complain about not having CM10 on a phone that no one promised it for.
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Watch the attitude guys
im so waiting .:good::good::good::good:
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Probably not officially supported, but I've seen CM7/9/10 on the Droid Inc (my first android phone) and CM9 plus currently working on CM10 on Rezound (my 2nd android phone).. AFAIK, thunderbolt has CM7 and CM9, and I can honestly see some Cyanogen in this phones future
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Unfortunately the Thunderbolt only has CM7, which isn't officially supported. There is AOSP ICS but not by CM.
In regard to several posts within this thread, Th kerne source will be helpful but the true issue is the RIL(radio interface layer) that prevents aosp from being ported. If the RIL can be cracked we should have a fully functional CM10 build and it will likely be fully supported. I know for a fact that there are already devs working on this and S-off so hang tight guys things should get interesting. We have some awesome devs on this project already!
Looks like Verizon decided to lock the boot loader. http://www.talkandroid.com/141409-htc-locks-down-droid-dna-bootloader/
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Yes there is a CM10 build available, however it does not (and probably never will) have working data. Smart phone without data equals dumb phone.
Fortunately there are a couple of talented themers who have put a lot of nice lipstick on the HTC/sense UI (EclipszeRemix) which is good but not the same thing as stock.
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How could you say it will never have data?? Do you develops for cm? Don't make statements that aren't true.
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ALSO IMPORTANT: Please for the love of god do not try to install any build of CM10 you find on the internet on this device(they are designed for other devices with other chipsets and antenna pairings). YOU WILL REGRET IT, and you will likeley brick your device.(valid until we have our own port as of right now this device is completely unsupported. just trust me on this.)
And to the data being functional see my previous post!
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Looks like Verizon decided to lock the boot loader. http://www.talkandroid.com/141409-htc-locks-down-droid-dna-bootloader/
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work has already commenced on a solution to this and is expected to be released within a few days but there is no guarantee

Where's The Love

I have notice that the sprint htc one is getting movement on the ROM front but at&t has not what's up with that
All the.international roms work on this phone so there's that
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All the.international roms work on this phone so there's that
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THIS !!!!
gunnyman said:
All the.international roms work on this phone so there's that
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Didn't know that ty
I really wish someone make ATT based roms, because im having really bad LTE speeds and signal with International Roms
We can just go ahead and flash any international roms? No workarounds to worry about or anything?
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We can just go ahead and flash any international roms? No workarounds to worry about or anything?
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Most I've had to worry about is changing all the European units/measurements/dates to be more American.
Here's a checklist:
Set "English (United Kingdom)" to "English (United States)"
In weather, change Celsius to Fahrenheit
In date and time, disable military time
In date and time, set the date from DD/MM/YYYY to MM/DD/YYYY
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We can just go ahead and flash any international roms? No workarounds to worry about or anything?
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Yep. And mike1986 specially adds at&t build. Prop support on his roms
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Yep. And mike1986 specially adds at&t build. Prop support on his roms
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Awesome, I haven't used his roms in a long time. Is that the best international one out presently for our phones? Just looking for your opinion.
Only used his arhd and a rom called renovate. Like you I used mike1986 roms years ago.
I've been a long time sprint customer
And I recently switched over to AT&T. The one thing I would definitely admit missing is the guys over at the Sprint development especially on the HTC front.
I'm new to AT&T and I sure hope they have some talented Dev on here because they did on the Sprint side.
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I've been a long time sprint customer
And I recently switched over to AT&T. The one thing I would definitely admit missing is the guys over at the Sprint development especially on the HTC front.
I'm new to AT&T and I sure hope they have some talented Dev on here because they did on the Sprint side.
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Most of the people here are from the AT&T One X community and it was such a friendly place to be. The developers are great.
Oppps my bad.
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I really wish someone make ATT based roms, because im having really bad LTE speeds and signal with International Roms
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Must be an issue with your area. I get 50 down 13 up easy on my att one running trickdroid.
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Do to the fact that the international Roms fully work for our phones we get plenty of love!
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Most of the people here are from the AT&T One X community and it was such a friendly place to be. The developers are great.
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Hands down, the best forum on XDA, that I have been involved with was the Evita forum.
Being a bastard child in the phone world brought us together I guess
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Do to the fact that the international Roms fully work for our phones we get plenty of love!
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I sure hope that's the case. That's the reason me getting this phone was a no brainer over the Sprint version.
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I really wish someone make ATT based roms, because im having really bad LTE speeds and signal with International Roms
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ARHD 6.1 added AT&T specific options in Aroma, users have reported improved LTE speeds after the update. I was seeing ok LTE speeds but low signal bars on prior to the update, it definitely improved the bar display but not sure about the speeds because I don't have that much data to compare it to.
My LTE speeds are excellent though:
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Most of the people here are from the AT&T One X community and it was such a friendly place to be. The developers are great.
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its true. people in the samsung forums are angry bastards. especially Task i cant stand that mofo. must have got raped in jail 5 dozen times :laugh:
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Ahhh. That's cute. It always amazes me how sensitive people are on the internet. Try doing what I do for a while and I think you might be able to better understand why I don't put up with lazy users that refuse to even read an OP of a development thread before flashing something to their expensive device. And then they blame me for it when the information is right in front of their face. Until you can do that. You really have no room to talk dude. Either way. Just keep contributing the highschool "behind the back" talk to start the drama here in development website. That really makes a ton of sense. :good: :highfive:
P.S- I think I might go and pick one of these devices up today.
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I for one welcome a Task650 AOSP HTC One release

Lack development on the HTC DNA

I am curious as to why there is a lack of develoment on a quadcore/1080p spec phone? Is it in large part to HTC being stingey with it's kernel source code?
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What are you talking about, there's plenty of development on this device.
My biggest issue with the DNA is having to pick a rom to flash...
Might I suggest checking out the development and original development threads?
You can currently follow along with joelz while they trouble shoot a new port.
AOSP
CM10
MIUI
Sense 4
Sense 5
Several kernels
Looks like development to me.
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cuseme said:
I am curious as to why there is a lack of develoment on a quadcore/1080p spec phone? Is it in large part to HTC being stingey with it's kernel source code?
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Hmm... Can't tell if serious or troll
shobon said:
What are you talking about, there's plenty of development on this device.
My biggest issue with the DNA is having to pick a rom to flash...
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You may be blind sir...
cstrife999 said:
You may be blind sir...
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Im thinking that may be the case
Bigandrewgold said:
Im thinking that may be the case
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In that case it's impressive that he or she was able to spell correctly lol.
cstrife999 said:
In that case it's impressive that he or she was able to spell correctly lol.
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Braille
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skeet43169 said:
Braille
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... Of Course!!! I'm dumb.
cstrife999 said:
... Of Course!!! I'm dumb.
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Seriously, is there something you want that is not developed such as a specific rom, kernel, recovery, etc?
I think there is plenty of development for the DNA. What could you possibly want? Everything has already been listed. It's leagues ahead of the Droid Razr I used to have. Let's not forget that a new method for S-off is still pretty new. That's the major reason why development was lagging behind and since then it's been booming. You already have several different 4.2.2 AOSP roms to choose from. Then you have the Sense 4+ and 5 roms that are perfect. I personally don't see how development is so bad.
Mnorton1228 said:
I think there is plenty of development for the DNA. What could you possibly want? Everything has already been listed. It's leagues ahead of the Droid Razr I used to have. Let's not forget that a new method for S-off is still pretty new. That's the major reason why development was lagging behind and since then it's been booming. You already have several different 4.2.2 AOSP roms to choose from. Then you have the Sense 4+ and 5 roms that are perfect. I personally don't see how development is so bad.
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Cause some people like 40+ copies of the same rom with different names. lol
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Cause some people like 40+ copies of the same rom with different names. lol
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There are no two ROMs that are the same right now in the original android development section.
If you go try each one out you will see that they really are very different.
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Is it because they are mostly built from the same base? I can see that being confusing to some, thinking there is no real development going on.. However, the same base != the same rom. There is real development going on for our device and all other devices on these forums.. I for one feel we have plenty to choose from and things are only going to get better and easier down the road... May have an official Sense 5 rom for the devs to play around with if Verizon gets things going.. I love it here!! Am I wrong? :good: :highfive::highfive:
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There are no two ROMs that are the same right now in the original android development section.
If you go try each one out you will see that they really are very different.
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That was sarcasm. In other words most of our roms have a completely different feel. On the GNex there were a lot of dups for sure.
Considering that this is a Verizon exclusive, locked bootloader, low popularity, CDMA phone, I'd say that delopement here is going pretty good. We have plenty of Roms, consisting of stock Sense 4 based, Sense 5 based, and CM/AOSP based. We even have an alpha build of Sense 5 4.2.2! We also have decent kernel development, 2 or 3 for AOSP and several for Sense. I've come to trust @.torrented and @pio_masaki for giving you the best overall user experience and working with the user to fix and repair not only their ROMs but miscellaneous bugs completely unrelated to them. These two have made it a truly great dev community. Because of these two, I am perfectly fine with the stage of development on our devices. If either of you are reading this, I love you guys!
If extensive development is what you want, get off Verizon and buy a Nexus 4 or a Google Edition HTC One/SGS4
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We also have MIUI!!!
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_phoey said:
Considering that this is a Verizon exclusive, locked bootloader, low popularity, CDMA phone, I'd say that delopement here is going pretty good. We have plenty of Roms, consisting of stock Sense 4 based, Sense 5 based, and CM/AOSP based. We even have an alpha build of Sense 5 4.2.2! We also have decent kernel development, 2 or 3 for AOSP and several for Sense. I've come to trust @.torrented and @pio_masaki for giving you the best overall user experience and working with the user to fix and repair not only their ROMs but miscellaneous bugs completely unrelated to them. These two have made it a truly great dev community. Because of these two, I am perfectly fine with the stage of development on our devices. If either of you are reading this, I love you guys!
If extensive development is what you want, get off Verizon and buy a Nexus 4 or a Google Edition HTC One/SGS4
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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Don't get me wrong, its an amazing phone that could easily compete with the SGS4, but it's Verizon exclusive so it never made it to that status. It was a mistake on Verizons and HTCs part to make this beast a carrier exclusive.
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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well, considering that verizon sells the iphone and the SGS4 (and the SGS3 if you want to talk about 2012), will them having close to 50% and 30% market share, respectively, i dont really see how the DNA could have been anywhere near a top seller. not to mention the note 2 and others. i would probably label this phone "unpopular". most people have never even heard of this phone. i'm glad they are making the "droid" branding exclusive to motorola. the DNA's exclusivity to Verizon killed the awesome potential this phone had. but still, i think we have awesome development. except, i dont understand why we have 5 million aosp roms.

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