Hi everyone, have a quick question. I flashed the UCLE2 ICS rom to my phone and was wondering why both the Wifi and 4g icons are on at the same time? According to my data usage, 4g isn't being used but the 4g icon still gets the orange bands indicating that it's being used. Should I reflash? Thanks!
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Yes try reflashing. That shouldn't be happening unless you're sending a mms or group sms.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
I'm having this trouble on stock ICS, I've wiped since updating.
>> I solved my problem it was the AT&T messages app that I use for visual voicemail. I uninstalled and reinstalled to no avail. I force quit it and it worked.
And also it happens when your sending or receiving mms
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nellycruzz said:
And also it happens when your sending or receiving mms
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that is normal though...You cannot do mms over WiFi, so it turns on cell data to send/receive them then switches it off.
AT&T messages and AT&T visual voicemail both only use network data connections. They do not use WiFi at all, so if you're getting a new message or voicemail in the background, your 4g icon will appear even if you have WiFi on.
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AT&T messages and AT&T visual voicemail both only use network data connections. They do not use WiFi at all, so if you're getting a new message or voicemail in the background, your 4g icon will appear even if you have WiFi on.
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Exactly what I was saying
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well we need clarification from the OP if they stay on CONSTANTLY, as in literally all the time
if not , then yeh probably MMS or voicemail in action
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lactardjosh said:
AT&T messages and AT&T visual voicemail both only use network data connections. They do not use WiFi at all, so if you're getting a new message or voicemail in the background, your 4g icon will appear even if you have WiFi on.
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um what are "AT&T messages"??
because text messages dont require data
just MMS
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well we need clarification from the OP if they stay on CONSTANTLY, as in literally all the time
if not , then yeh probably MMS or voicemail in action
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um what are "AT&T messages"??
because text messages dont require data
just MMS
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I meant constantly with the AT&T Messages app. I force close and relaunch it and I'm good then. 4G notification turns off.
The AT&T Messages app is a replacement app for SMS, MMS, Call Log, Voicemail/Visual Voicemail.
That shows you that on wifi your cellular/data modem is on standby ready to receive the mms or vvm. Having the icon showing doesn't mean it is using your data allowance.
You can put phone in airplane mode then turn wifi on. You won't see the 4g icon, but you won't receive any mms or vvm's.
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Does Data Roaming include text messages, or just 'data' (like Gmail, internet, etc)?
I am traveling outside the country and my Data Roaming is checked off, I have no intention of paying AT&T their outrageous fees for data, but I also do NOT want to receive any text messages. How do I disable receiving unwanted text messages while abroad?
Thanks.
I believe you just uncheck the package data option and no data can be used.
I don't think disabling data will block incoming SMS. You would need to call AT&T and have them disable incoming texts, then re-enable when you return.
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Most messaging apps have auto retrieve while roaming box to check or uncheck in main settings.Not sure what it does or doesn't do when left unchecked.
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Most messaging apps have auto retrieve while roaming box to check or uncheck in main settings. Not sure what it will or won't doi if not checked.
Anything that isn't a phone call is considered data. Text messages within your plan shouldn't count, but you never know once you leave the country.
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Anything that isn't a phone call is considered data. Text messages within your plan shouldn't count, but you never know once you leave the country.
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I believe this is the case, in that my mother in law gets miniscule data usage reported on her bill on the random occasions she gets a SMS message. However, I believe SMS are carried strictly over the cellular voice network, so I don't think they will be blocked from coming in if the OP only blocks data. As I use GV for texts and don't have an SMS plan, I don't wanna pay to test this myself (yeah I'm a cheapskate, it's only 20 cents). Try shutting off packet data and have someone send you an SMS..
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Most messaging apps have auto retrieve while roaming box to check or uncheck in main settings. Not sure what it will or won't doi if not checked.
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Thanks. Funny, I didn't even think about checking the settings.
The only setting that I believe refers to general messaging (as oppose to specific text or specific MMS) is Push Messages - Receive push messages from network. Obviously there is no explanation as to what it means
Any idea?
BTW - if I do find a 'market' messaging app which allows to shut it off when roaming, how do I completely disable messaging on the stock app? Do I need to remove it from the phone? I kind'a like the stock messaging app (probably because I don't know what I'm missing).
Installing a new messaging app should disable the stock one.
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Installing a new messaging app should disable the stock one.
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So I installed Handcent SMS (it has a settings for enabling/disabling Roaming auto retrieve and tested it, but when I checked the stock app my test messages (both in/out) were there. There was no notification of a new SMS, but once I opened the stock, the messages were there.
If you don't open it does it still count just because you received the notification?
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If you don't open it does it still count just because you received the notification?
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Yes. It counts because of the traffic through the server, not whether you read it or not. Just like a phone call counts as a minute even if you don't answer it. Any use of the network counts.
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If you don't open it does it still count just because you received the notification?
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There is no notification in the stock, I can see the message only if I open it.
I am on the Saurom 7/7.1 on my ATT Galaxy Note I717 and whenever I turn WiFi on the 4GT cuts out (at least the icon disappears from the status bar). Is it possible to have both on simultaneously? Is this only on Saurom or is it normal for any GB ROM? And, is there a fix?
I was unable to find anything in search relating to the GNote on this subject though I did see one post for a Galaxy sII but on Tmobile and there was no fix.
Why would you want to waste battery on 4G when you're connected to wifi?
It'll turn on when needed, i.e. picture messages, visual voicemail. Like the other guy said, why would you want both and run your data up?
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Curious what are you looking to fix?
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What I'm Concerned About is..
I'm a fireman and I receive text message alerts via SMS and/or I need to call Fire HQ in order to let them know that I am responding. So if I'm on WiFi, can I still do the following even though I don't see the 4G in the status bar:
1. Get SMS text messages
2. Make phone calls
3. Receive phone calls
:facepalm: ...
Sigh
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I'm a fireman and I receive text message alerts via SMS and/or I need to call Fire HQ in order to let them know that I am responding. So if I'm on WiFi, can I still do the following even though I don't see the 4G in the status bar:
1. Get SMS text messages
2. Make phone calls
3. Receive phone calls
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That would be a yes
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docfreed said:
I'm a fireman and I receive text message alerts via SMS and/or I need to call Fire HQ in order to let them know that I am responding. So if I'm on WiFi, can I still do the following even though I don't see the 4G in the status bar:
1. Get SMS text messages
2. Make phone calls
3. Receive phone calls
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As long as you have bars of signal and not a circle with a slash you're good to go. 4g is strictly data type stuff, like picture messaging, downloading visual voicemail and googling stuffs on the inner webs. Signal bars software whether or not you'll get texts and phone calls
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I'm sorry but does anyone find it hilarious that he has the knowledge to root/flash...but doesn't realize he can get/send texts/phone calls while on wifi?!
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Lmao...wow
Are you serious ?...you should unroot ....do yourself a favor and research....
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I'm sorry but does anyone find it hilarious that he has the knowledge to root/flash...but doesn't realize he can get/send texts/phone calls while on wifi?!
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Yes!!!!!!!! Lmao no pun intended but damn!! Lol
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Any time you enable wifi it will disable 3g or 4g it overides the system to save provider data,since using wifi dosent use your data plan...wifi is also the fastest data I believe over anything,as I understood from many techs but but quote me I could be wrong...though it is fast...
3g,4g,lte,hspa wifi. However you would like to call it. Is for DATA transfer (interent)... Voip is kinda like phone calls in laymens terms...You could technically disable data and wifi and still get phone calls.. hope it helps a little bit
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_over_IP
Anyone else having this issue? I can send MMS just fine when i get a data signal. Also calls and SMS are working great over wifi calling....just cant seem to send a MMS.
I use Handcent and have no problem.
Have this issue too
I have this issue as well, when WiFi Calling is activated I cannot send or receive MMS messages.
I'm still completely stock.
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I have this issue as well, when WiFi Calling is activated I cannot send or receive MMS messages.
I'm still completely stock.
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I think is the way the tmobile sets it up to turn of the wireless radio but wifi, I seem that on my one s, but if you use another app im like Handcent it uses it wifi so you dont have the problems, again thats my experience on one s, Im waiting for my galaxy s 3 still
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Tried handcent with no luck. Still can't send or receive MMS.
I have an s3 and also have this issue - anyone find a solution?
Google a little bit. Sounds like this is a known issue for T-Mobile on many different devices. :-(
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Google a little bit. Sounds like this is a known issue for T-Mobile on many different devices. :-(
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Really? I never had the problem while texting
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Unfortunately this is an issue, but I don't know if the blame can be placed on TMobile, as the stock messaging app will allow me to send an MMS over WIFI. The reason being is that MMS is sent using the carrier's data connection. With the stock app, while using wifi, it disconnects from the wifi connection just long enough to send the MMS. However, when using a third party, it does not register and therefor isn't sent until you disconnect from the wifi or resend through the stock app.
Works for me bro. But then again, my data is always on...
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This is a pretty crap issue.
I have no damn signal in my house (even though I really should), so Wifi Calling is a godsend (even though it likes to randomly turn off).
But I've got five MMS pending download because of a group text, and I can't reply. I would have to go up the street to get them.
I'm on Verizon and have the same problem. Only solution to sending and receiving is to clear data, but have to do that every time i send or receive an MMS on stock. tried Go SMS and Handcent, and get the same issues.
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I'm on Verizon and have the same problem. Only solution to sending and receiving is to clear data, but have to do that every time i send or receive an MMS on stock. tried Go SMS and Handcent, and get the same issues.
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This worked for me at work and at home. Just need to do this for every wifi access point you use. I found this on Rootzwiki.
Long press on your Wifi connection
Press "Modify Network"
Scroll down to IP Settings and change that from "DHCP" to "Static"
Scroll down to DNS and enter the following information:
DNS 1 - 8.8.4.4
DNS 2 - 8.8.8.8
Press Save
REBOOT YOUR PHONE! This is important.
I would love to be able to send SMS through my WiFi because I get crap signal in my room.... is there a WiFi calling app for att?
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My phone is not rooted, haven't changed the APN at all, using GoSMS Pro as my texting app of choice......the problem is that I can send, but can't receive any MMS messages. Any idea what I can look for to see if it's a phone setting issue? I have confirmed with AT&T that things are setup up properly...i'm stumped
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My phone is not rooted, haven't changed the APN at all, using GoSMS Pro as my texting app of choice......the problem is that I can send, but can't receive any MMS messages. Any idea what I can look for to see if it's a phone setting issue? I have confirmed with AT&T that things are setup up properly...i'm stumped
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Are you getting an error message?
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Are you getting an error message?
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I can send them just fine, I just can't receive them for some reason. No error message, I just don't get the mms at all.
Have you check the stock app and are you on wifi?
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I usually turn of mobile data when I'm on WiFi and I've realized that you cannot receive them on WiFi (not sure about sending). I had to turn mobile data on, while on WiFi, in order to receive MMS.
APN issue?
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I usually turn of mobile data when I'm on WiFi and I've realized that you cannot receive them on WiFi (not sure about sending). I had to turn mobile data on, while on WiFi, in order to receive MMS.
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I learned that when I had my Atrix 2, so thats not the problem....APN is set to the stock settings, have not been messed with at all. Stock messaging app is the same, will send but wont receive mms. I got a call from an AT&T tech in Atlanta today telling me they have rectified the network issue. We tried it again but still no go, he said it sounds like I have a defective device cause everything in my account is set how it should be, no more network issues bit the problem remains. Gonna swap it out this evening.
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I have a unrooted s4 and it will not send mms messages when connected to wifi. I have to turn wifi off for the mms to send. I looked for some auto retrieve/send mms setting but couldn't find any. Anybody have any ideas what I can do?
Can anyone else confirm this???? If so, please do, so i can submit this bug to Samsung.
I can't really test it myself, i have poor signal in my apt. The few times i have received at home it's worked fine. Haven't tried sending.
last time i checked, MMS dont send via wifi. it goes via cell signal/data never worked when i was on my nexus. even now, when using Go SMS on my S4 i notice when i send a MMS while on wifi i can see the 3G/4G icon turn on just to send the picture then turn off
I have used it at home while on Wi-Fi.
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dansan382 said:
last time i checked, MMS dont send via wifi. it goes via cell signal/data never worked when i was on my nexus. even now, when using Go SMS on my S4 i notice when i send a MMS while on wifi i can see the 3G/4G icon turn on just to send the picture then turn off
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The OP was not expecting it to use Wi-Fi. He was expecting it to work while Wi-Fi was connected.
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My MMS is working while WiFi is on, but the MMS doesn't actually use WiFi to send the message, it is sent via the cell/data signal.
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I have used it at home while on Wi-Fi.
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The OP was not expecting it to use Wi-Fi. He was expecting it to work while Wi-Fi was connected.
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the problem may be when using the stock SMS app it may not send over wifi. when you're connected to wifi the phone defaults to sending everything it can via data that can be sent. are you using the stock SMS app?
i just tried to do it with stock SMS and the second i went to attach a photo, it disconnected my wifi to grab 3G/4G to send the photo. once it was done, it jumped back on wifi
Cell tower issue....low signal issue? Dont contact Samsung until you try your phone in other places. Drive...if your old enough down the road like 5 miles...see if the mms goes through. Call Verizon and see if they are having issues with that tower.
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Mr Frog said:
I have a unrooted s4 and it will not send mms messages when connected to wifi. I have to turn wifi off for the mms to send. I looked for some auto retrieve/send mms setting but couldn't find any. Anybody have any ideas what I can do?
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I've never been able to send MMS through WIFI. So I always just thought it was something Verizon did to make you use more Data. If anyone knows a way around this. Would love to know as well.
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I am having the same issue when i am connected to WiFi in my house. No MMS will send. Once i turn off WiFI the MMS will go through. I have Data turned on as well) My tower strength is fine. Any ideas how to solve this? I am running a Verizon GS4.
oh thank god someone else is having this issue. it's DRIVING ME NUTS!! sorry to not have any additional information but you are not alone :-/
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I've never been able to send MMS through WIFI. So I always just thought it was something Verizon did to make you use more Data. If anyone knows a way around this. Would love to know as well.
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MMS messages never traverse the "internet" which is the reason why A) it cannot be sent/received over WiFi and B) using VZW data cannot be circumvented.
My wife has had the GS4 for a couple of days and ran into this yesterday. She tried sending me a picture but didn't notice that it didn't go. She asked my son if I rec'd the picture and showed him and obviously I didn't so she sent it to him as well. That's when she realized the one to me was still "Sending...". His never went either. When she tried to send to me, she was in a store and probably NOT on WiFi (unless it was "open").
This morning, she asked about it and I told her "turn off WiFi" but that didn't kick it in. I then tried sending her a picture (a trick I learned on the Thunderbolt with AOSP ROMs) - when her phone toggles off WiFi to receive mine, it should also see pending, outgoing messages on hers and send it. Didn't work....
I then used Handcent SMS and chose "Edit" on each message, did NOTHING to them, and hit Send - and they went. WiFi was ON as well. She also sent an MMS moments later that went.
Even if it were a "tower" issue, she should have come along to multiple other towers while out driving.
I uninstalled the caller id app, and that solved this.
Isn't that a system app ? I haven't rooted her phone (yet)...
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Yes, but it is deletable. My wife's not rooted either.
I cancelled the trial in the app then went to Application Manager and instead of the "Uninstall" button, it was a "Disable" button. I hit it, nothing obvious happened, but the app is gone from the app drawer now.
Still Not working
I have disabled the Caller ID app and still no go. I see the 4G icon pop up when i go to send, then it disappears and the MMS message just sits there, never sends. Does anyone else have any suggestions or ideas to solve this?
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Also having this issue
Yes we know MMS does not utilize the internet via wifi. Yes, we know MMS must travel over your carrier's cellular data connection.
While connected to wifi, with the 4g/3g Icon NOT showing, this issue comes up. You go to send an MMS, the 4g/3g Icon pops up for a short time, say 30 seconds, and then disappears. But the message never sends. If I turn wifi off, MMS then send flawlessly, sitting in the exact same spot I was previously. Signal strength is not an issue, or it would not work without fail when wifi is off in the same location, and then suddenly stop working when Wifi is back on.
A third party SMS app did not mitigate the issue for me. Which has been suggested by some as a solution.
Can anyone provide any additional insight on this issue? VZW tech support is a joke.
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Also having this issue
Yes we know MMS does not utilize the internet via wifi. Yes, we know MMS must travel over your carrier's cellular data connection.
While connected to wifi, with the 4g/3g Icon NOT showing, this issue comes up. You go to send an MMS, the 4g/3g Icon pops up for a short time, say 30 seconds, and then disappears. But the message never sends. If I turn wifi off, MMS then send flawlessly, sitting in the exact same spot I was previously. Signal strength is not an issue, or it would not work without fail when wifi is off in the same location, and then suddenly stop working when Wifi is back on.
A third party SMS app did not mitigate the issue for me. Which has been suggested by some as a solution.
Can anyone provide any additional insight on this issue? VZW tech support is a joke.
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Any ideas? Still an ongoing issue. I can not send group mms at all when connected to wifi. I have to disconnect from wifi, copy message text, delete message, paste, and resend with wifi disconnected.
Sometimes if I reboot my phone it will be able to send a MMS over Wifi but eventually it will not be able to...
I'm gonna install a custom touchwiz rom and see if that helps.
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