To clear my point cauz I'm not a Dev. and I know little about android .
Is there is a way to change the internal stoarge to only system ! for ex. 14 Gb
instead of only 2 gb for system , can it be extended ? reformated ?
not a link to sd apps or these things , i.e. I need repartation like in windows when I choose how much size for partation , how many partations and the extention and etc,
if it is a ROM related thing , can some one tell how I could get it done ! I guess it will be few steps if so , I just need it to be as close as it could be to stock Version ,
or is there a program on PC like android SDk thing or .pit to Odin or any other ? that should I use to repartation ?
is it possible for ex. to plug the usb to PC and get full control to Root dir ? or a repartitoning programmes on PC that could get access to my full phone storage so I reformat ?
I hope you guys got what I exactly mean and guys if I messing up some points or the whole point it is okay , I hope you Guide me to the Right place to start from to get this exactly done .
and plz guys be direct don't just link me to market apps that do this , apps are great , But I want to open my storage in setting to find it for example 12 Gb system .
thanks in advance
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I've seen in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542857
Partations :
The Android uses several partitions to organize files and folders on the device. Each of these partitions has a distinct role in the functionality of the device, but not many Android users know the significance of each partition and its contents. In this guide, we will take you on a tour of Android partitions, what they contain and what can be the possible consequences of modifying their content.
Let’s start with a list of standard internal memory partitions on Android phones and tablets. These are:
• /boot
• /system
• /recovery
• /data
• /cache
• /misc
In addition, there are the SD card partitions.
• /sdcard
this is a good info to start with , how to modifiy size of any of them ?
From your first statement, I would tell you to stay well away and don't do what you're planning on doing. You will end up with an expensive brick.
However, if you ignore that, some people had limited success changing things recently here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668994
asalah0923 said:
To clear my point cauz I'm not a Dev. and I know little about android .
Is there is a way to change the internal stoarge to only system ! for ex. 14 Gb
instead of only 2 gb for system , can it be extended ? reformated ?
not a link to sd apps or these things , i.e. I need repartation like in windows when I choose how much size for partation , how many partations and the extention and etc,
if it is a ROM related thing , can some one tell how I could get it done ! I guess it will be few steps if so , I just need it to be as close as it could be to stock Version ,
or is there a program on PC like android SDk thing or .pit to Odin or any other ? that should I use to repartation ?
is it possible for ex. to plug the usb to PC and get full control to Root dir ? or a repartitoning programmes on PC that could get access to my full phone storage so I reformat ?
I hope you guys got what I exactly mean and guys if I messing up some points or the whole point it is okay , I hope you Guide me to the Right place to start from to get this exactly done .
and plz guys be direct don't just link me to market apps that do this , apps are great , But I want to open my storage in setting to find it for example 12 Gb system .
thanks in advance
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I've seen in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542857
Partations :
The Android uses several partitions to organize files and folders on the device. Each of these partitions has a distinct role in the functionality of the device, but not many Android users know the significance of each partition and its contents. In this guide, we will take you on a tour of Android partitions, what they contain and what can be the possible consequences of modifying their content.
Let’s start with a list of standard internal memory partitions on Android phones and tablets. These are:
• /boot
• /system
• /recovery
• /data
• /cache
• /misc
In addition, there are the SD card partitions.
• /sdcard
this is a good info to start with , how to modifiy size of any of them ?
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Why do you want to repartition your sd card?
Is there a reason for having a 12 GB big system partition?
Read the thread here => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433098&highlight=change+partitions+repartition
And here more information about pit files for repartitioning => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104139
But I would recommend no to repartition your internal sd card as this can hard brick your phone.
oinkylicious said:
From your first statement, I would tell you to stay well away and don't do what you're planning on doing. You will end up with an expensive brick.
However, if you ignore that, some people had limited success changing things recently here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668994
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It depends on what expensive brick means ? hardware ? as it wont enter download mode ?
as it got bricked alot , but it still enter the Download mode , so Just pick it up , plug it with odin , flash it a new rom ! and Once I did checked Repatation and and Pit file in ODin and everything was going fine ...
I don't want to ignore that , but from previous knowledge on Windows , Repartation seems to be usual thing , no big big breaks , if just backed up and got the right stuff even BIOS in windows can fixed ...
if brick can be done by software , then it is not a big problem .
if brick means hardware or I could Not enter download mode , then I should reconsider it .
Edit :
and if so , I'm only going to repartation /system only .... and maybe /data ,,,,, I will leave the /boot , /recovery , /cache , /misc
so as to avoid risks I guess ..
but the question is how I repartation any of them !
It_ler said:
Why do you want to repartition your sd card?
Is there a reason for having a 12 GB big system partition?
Read the thread here => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433098&highlight=change+partitions+repartition
And here more information about pit files for repartitioning => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104139
But I would recommend no to repartition your internal sd card as this can hard brick your phone.
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Reason : I need to install apps as much as I want without having to move them to external storage which has a slower speed (class 4 for me ) , and also in any case I unmounted the card , apps will be there , ... plus as a secure place ,micro Sdcards may just die in any time . also I encounter some bugs and lags when apps are on external card , and some apps and launchers got also bugs when it comes to external MicroSd apps .. to sum it up , Dont want apps on Microsd card .
and I 've been through some solutions , like move 2 sd card apps .. never solved the problem, it move apps to external MicroSD storage , not in internal , and apps like directoryBind , you have to install it first and have root and make some empty folders to link with and need to be loaded at boot , a way complicated and still don't work flawlessly .
Is there some solutions I didn't try ? plz let me know
I'm not the app maniac , but that is the way android is , and it will be fair in 6 months for Ex, to have a bunch of apps , some have large size , some games takes like 80 Mb . it may wind up with no space left by 100 app (10 large ) and the other codecs and players and etc... also phone becomes laggy when free space less 200 Mb in system .
that's my problem any way ! I may be messed pointing it out ,there's may be also an easy solution and I did Not know about it
if i messed something , just till me where to start again .
thanks guys
[Q] is there a customized Pit file having different partitions values anyway ?
From the looks of what you are saying and asking, I would not mess with anything you're trying to do. You're going to end up bricking you're device!
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Okay thanks for that ... Any better suggestion for having some extra space for apps ! What is the common solution here ? So I wont ran out of memory or space for apps ?
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asalah0923 said:
Okay thanks for that ... Any better suggestion for having some extra space for apps ! What is the common solution here ? So I wont ran out of memory or space for apps ?
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Honestly, all I do is delete the ones I barely use. I'm very picky about the apps I have on the phone. I find that the more I have the slower, more buggy, and higher chance that the battery will drain faster. The only thing I can see is that you can delete some apps
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kilometers4 said:
Honestly, all I do is delete the ones I barely use. I'm very picky about the apps I have on the phone. I find that the more I have the slower, more buggy, and higher chance that the battery will drain faster. The only thing I can see is that you can delete some apps
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Thanks again ...... And so true yeah .. It gets buggy and battery die fast with lots of apps...
It 's somehow a fair enough solution , I will stick to it and try to delete some of non much apps... until someone make some app or figure some safe way to repartition or extend some space .
So I guess i have to wait .
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asalah0923 said:
Thanks again ...... And so true yeah .. It gets buggy and battery die fast with lots of apps...
It 's somehow a fair enough solution , I will stick to it and try to delete some of non much apps... until someone make some app or figure some safe way to repartition or extend some space .
So I guess i have to wait .
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Any time
And I think it's the safest thing to wait and see if anyone can do it. Maybe you can ask in the cm9 thread.. Just be prepared to get flamed
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can som one tell me how i can dual boot my photon4g
lucky.79 said:
can som one tell me how i can dual boot my photon4g
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You can't, yet.
This uses a method called 2ndinit myself and peetr_ have been looking into using this option.
mof9336 said:
This uses a method called 2ndinit myself and peetr_ have been looking into using this option.
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so we can have one androidOS in the internal storage and another android OS in the external storage?? that's really really cool! Would photon 4g be the first phone to have more than 1 OS installed?
rituel said:
so we can have one androidOS in the internal storage and another android OS in the external storage?? that's really really cool! Would photon 4g be the first phone to have more than 1 OS installed?
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Check my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652411
I have used suggestions from Atrix thread and they worked fine. I have tried two or three times and each time I got some issues. I was copying stock 2.3.4 ROM onto SD card. One time USB ports were not working - no charging, no connection to computer with the cable. Next time there was problem with Play Market. I have tried different steps to reset its settings to no avail. It was giving error related to storage unavailability while downloading anything. I have removed Play Market completely, then somehow install it back, but the issue was not resolved. Now I think maybe it's a permissions issue.
Also device was really slow while running OS on sd-card (I have 32GB Transcend Class 10). It's fun to try but I don't see any practical use for it.
bloodhound_ said:
Check my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652411
I have used suggestions from Atrix thread and they worked fine. I have tried two or three times and each time I got some issues. I was copying stock 2.3.4 ROM onto SD card. One time USB ports were not working - no charging, no connection to computer with the cable. Next time there was problem with Play Market. I have tried different steps to reset its settings to no avail. It was giving error related to storage unavailability while downloading anything. I have removed Play Market completely, then somehow install it back, but the issue was not resolved. Now I think maybe it's a permissions issue.
Also device was really slow while running OS on sd-card (I have 32GB Transcend Class 10). It's fun to try but I don't see any practical use for it.
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hey can you write a detailed guide with instructions on how you got dual boot working on photon 4g please !? I cant afford to make mistakes and bork my phone >.>
And like you said as long as i can charge my phone and connect to my computer with one of the operating system its not a problem. But having dual boot will be really helpfull means I can check out more than one Rom simultaneously.
rituel said:
hey can you write a detailed guide with instructions on how you got dual boot working on photon 4g please !? I cant afford to make mistakes and bork my phone >.>
And like you said as long as i can charge my phone and connect to my computer with one of the operating system its not a problem. But having dual boot will be really helpfull means I can check out more than one Rom simultaneously.
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The instructions I followed from Atrix page are very detailed. Link is here
It takes time to have a thread where most of the common questions answered. I think it is useless effort to start similar topic here, in addition - I don't have necessary time, knowledge and wish for this.
Anyway, if you do something wrong - you should always have full backup - then you risk nothing. Remember that if you got soft-bricked and recovery doesn't work, you can always use RSD lite to load stock 198_7 ROM, unlock, write new recovery and restore from initial backup.
The only difference between Atrix and Photon, (relative to this task) that you should keep in mind is the partition sizes. Partition table by LAKSHMAN in Play Market (or any other partition tool) can show you your partition sizes. I didn't guess to use these tools when I followed the instructions. Add up some 10 GB to each partition, just in case. When you partition your SD card, you should create partitions of the following size:
system - 420 MiB (stock ROM system partition size 408 MiB)
cache - 645 MiB (my current cache size on stock ROM is 610 MiB)
data - 2.6 MiB
I would also recommend to use script manager to launch scripts that will replace boot image from one to another. In other words, it will control where you will boot next time.
Note that Windows 7 is going mad about SD card with several partitions - sometimes you can see a single ntfs partition, sometimes it shows the ext3 partition, offering to reformat it.
bloodhound_ said:
The instructions I followed from Atrix page are very detailed. Link is here
It takes time to have a thread where most of the common questions answered. I think it is useless effort to start similar topic here, in addition - I don't have necessary time, knowledge and wish for this.
Anyway, if you do something wrong - you should always have full backup - then you risk nothing. Remember that if you got soft-bricked and recovery doesn't work, you can always use RSD lite to load stock 198_7 ROM, unlock, write new recovery and restore from initial backup.
The only difference between Atrix and Photon, (relative to this task) that you should keep in mind is the partition sizes. Partition table by LAKSHMAN in Play Market (or any other partition tool) can show you your partition sizes. I didn't guess to use these tools when I followed the instructions. Add up some 10 GB to each partition, just in case. When you partition your SD card, you should create partitions of the following size:
system - 420 GB (stock ROM system partition size 408 GB)
cache - 645 GB (my current cache size on stock ROM is 610 GB)
data - 2.6 GB
I would also recommend to use script manager to launch scripts that will replace boot image from one to another. In other words, it will control where you will boot next time.
Note that Windows 7 is going mad about SD card with several partitions - sometimes you can see a single ntfs partition, sometimes it shows the ext3 partition, offering to reformat it.
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@PosterBoy : is this GB really?????? Man give some space to breathe..... lol
amitranjan said:
@PosterBoy : is this GB really?????? Man give some space to breathe..... lol
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no im sure he miss typed he meant MB like he says in his post in the other thread. ok thanks man ill play around with it a bit so you're sure the phone wont be hard bricked right? I'm a very careful person I'm pretty confident I wont make mistakes all i want to know is everything every instruction given there is detailed enough and that nothing is omitted from it(meaning i dont have to do anything different except the partition sizes you mentioned here)
rituel said:
no im sure he miss typed he meant MB like he says in his post in the other thread. ok thanks man ill play around with it a bit so you're sure the phone wont be hard bricked right? I'm a very careful person I'm pretty confident I wont make mistakes all i want to know is everything every instruction given there is detailed enough and that nothing is omitted from it(meaning i dont have to do anything different except the partition sizes you mentioned here)
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Yes, everything else from that topic applies. Be careful when you use dd. If you specify wrong drive names you might be in trouble (this will require loading sbf with RSD lite to fix partitions, I guess).
The longest part is to extract boot.img, edit the configuration file there and pack the whole thing back to andorid .img format. It requires you to install Android SDK with some tools that might not work straight away.
Hello everyone,
I've (CF) rooted my S3 only to move app data to my extSD card. The official stock firmware (JB 4.1.1) is still on it, and i would like to keep it that way (serves me good). I've tried directory bind and Link2SD.
Both of the apps don't work (or i'm to much of a noob to get it going)!
Directory bind just moves files from one location, but when i start the app, it gives me a error (in this case, tomtom).
Also the alternative management options in this app, dont give me tools to "bind".
Link2SD makes links (on the second partition of the ext.sd) but doesn't want to move the app data to the first partition of the ext.sd The error is "insufficient storage space", but there is over 27gb of (fat32) free space. The second extsd partition is 2gb of ext4.
Am I doing something wrong, or is the official stock FW just not up to the task?
Greetings, RedKingCrab
apps to ext sd
Ho Bro,
i have the same problem, but as i know this is some new bull**** in the System or maybe just on Samsung devices.
The only app wich is more ore less useful is the "GL to SD"..
uzsz said:
Ho Bro,
i have the same problem, but as i know this is some new bull**** in the System or maybe just on Samsung devices.
The only app wich is more ore less useful is the "GL to SD"..
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Thanks for the tip!
It seems that some versions are not well supported yet. Maybe in a couple of monts it will. I'll try again later on, including GL to SD.
So i've unrooted my S3 allready, because rooting it gave me troubles installing manual apps!
If I manualy wanted to install a apk file, i got an error (not enough memory )
RedKingCrab said:
Thanks for the tip!
It seems that some versions are not well supported yet. Maybe in a couple of monts it will. I'll try again later on, including GL to SD.
So i've unrooted my S3 allready, because rooting it gave me troubles installing manual apps!
If I manualy wanted to install a apk file, i got an error (not enough memory )
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Did you manage to figure this out?
Were you creating both partitions as primary?
What app did you wind up using: Link2SD or GLtoSD?
cheers
tryerxda said:
Did you manage to figure this out?
Were you creating both partitions as primary?
What app did you wind up using: Link2SD or GLtoSD?
cheers
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Sorry bro, didn't get it to work on stock fw.
Because of time issues i haven't been able to figure this problem out. I've unrooted the phone and flashed back with original stock.
Maybe its the way you created your partitions.
Try this link if you ever decide to go back and experiment:
http://www.thespicygadgematics.com/2012/05/how-to-create-second-partition-on-micro.html?m=1
Just use directory bind apk search here in xda this works perfectly for s3
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Hi people, I rooted my girlfriends galaxy ace & put link2sd on it to transfer as many apps as possible to free up internal memory which left her with about 45mb to play with & 2gb external sd space, I now have a problem, last night I made the mistake of downloading an official update for it & it failed instalation because the phones rooted (obviously :crying which I stupidly forgot! The problem I now have is that the failed update @ 30.1mb is hogging up the memory again with the usual "low on internal space" error residing in status bar! I managed to delete a few unneeded apps & now have about 21mb space & no warning but the failed update is still there somewhere on the internal memory & I want to find & delete it if I can using root explorer! Can someone give me its location where it's residing to delete it, or can I only use manage applications in settings to do this & delete the data in software updates? & will that give me back the space it took!?
TIA!
Anyone??
Try clearing the cache of the programs. U can use "Apps2sd" or "Titanium Backup" to clear cache and move some of the apps to sd card to free space.
:: Today is the first day of what's left of your life. ::
ChelebiTech said:
Try clearing the cache of the programs. U can use "Apps2sd" or "Titanium Backup" to clear cache and move some of the apps to sd card to free space.
:: Today is the first day of what's left of your life. ::
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I've moved most apps to sd using link2sd as previously stated in my first post, & I've cleared the cache of most programs also
The problem lies with the update that I downloaded which failed to install because of the device being rooted, it's residing in internal memory still taking up 30.1mb of space! I just need to delete it somehow but don't know where to look for it!?
The problem lies with the update that I downloaded which failed to install because of the device being rooted, it's residing in internal memory still taking up 30.1mb of space! I just need to delete it somehow but don't know where to look for it!?
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I can update apps even after rooting.
And I think everyone here can.
Gaining root access to the phone won't affect ur app update.
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amogh420 said:
I can update apps even after rooting.
And I think everyone here can.
Gaining root access to the phone won't affect ur app update.
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he isn't talking about updating apps, he is talking about updating firmware..
if phone is rooted, then ota update will fail..!!
if internal memory is around 30 mb then it is normal (i think, but not sure)
still u can try to wipe cache and dalvik cache through cwm..
or just simply update the firmware through odin...
and restore all app via titanium backup :thumbup:
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srt99 said:
he isn't talking about updating apps, he is talking about updating firmware..
if phone is rooted, then ota update will fail..!!
if internal memory is around 30 mb then it is normal (i think, but not sure)
still u can try to wipe cache and dalvik cache through cwm..
or just simply update the firmware through odin...
and restore all app via titanium backup :thumbup:
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Thanks for making that point yep the free internal memory that is left is around 28mb now, but only because I uninstalled some more apps after the update failed! I've cleared caches & dalvik cache but if I were to find & delete the failed update, I'd gain another 30mb (totalling 60mb free space!)
I think I'll just unroot it, install the ota update then root it again if I can't find where it's residing & delete it! I'm not too keen on using odiin although I have in the past on my S2 with no problems, I prefer ota or mobile odin (mobile odin doesn't support the galaxy ace unfortunately!) or cwm recovery firmware instalations!
Thanks for your reply! :good:
srt99 said:
he isn't talking about updating apps, he is talking about updating firmware..
if phone is rooted, then ota update will fail..!!
if internal memory is around 30 mb then it is normal (i think, but not sure)
still u can try to wipe cache and dalvik cache through cwm..
or just simply update the firmware through odin...
and restore all app via titanium backup :thumbup:
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Ohh
I thought he meant the update of Link2SD failed. Lol.
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Cant find failed update
amogh420 said:
Ohh
I thought he meant the update of Link2SD failed. Lol.
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Hi
I have same problem firmware update failed and I had unrooted my phone before I started update I have now lost 50mb (app) of internal storage.
You make a good point CrackDaddy "where does firmware updates reside after downloading" I have used Link2sd and Titanium to try and find this failed download but just can't find it, knowing the firmware file name or the format that it may be would help cos I have probably seen it and did not realise.
I hope some member can help us.
There is no firmware file, the firmware is like a custom rom. So there are multiple files which atayed in /system after the failed download (correct me if I'm wrong). The solution is to flash a firmware through Odin.
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mmm interesting
Android-fany said:
There is no firmware file, the firmware is like a custom rom. So there are multiple files which atayed in /system after the failed download (correct me if I'm wrong). The solution is to flash a firmware through Odin.
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Thanks for info android-fany
I was hoping the failed download would be in one place and not multiple files.
So installing updated firmware via Odin would remove / fix failed firmware and correct the storage problem ?
And can we download and install updated firmware via Odin when phone is rooted or does the phone need to be unrooted before download / install of updated firmware ??
soundacer said:
Thanks for info android-fany
I was hoping the failed download would be in one place and not multiple files.
So installing updated firmware via Odin would remove / fix failed firmware and correct the storage problem ?
And can we download and install updated firmware via Odin when phone is rooted or does the phone need to be unrooted before download / install of updated firmware ??
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it is fine if u flash fw through odin on a rooted phone..
so dont worry..just flash it :thumbup:
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soundacer said:
Thanks for info android-fany
I was hoping the failed download would be in one place and not multiple files.
So installing updated firmware via Odin would remove / fix failed firmware and correct the storage problem ?
And can we download and install updated firmware via Odin when phone is rooted or does the phone need to be unrooted before download / install of updated firmware ??
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Yes, does installing new firmware overwrite or add to the system file storage space problem
After all, I'm not as concerned about having new firmware custom or official on the phone, as I am about gaining the space back, ( it's not my phone ) so potentiality all I have to do is partition the sd card to fix the space problem, although the failed update files wiould still remain in the system!
Ok so I am in the exactly the same boat; rooted my GT-S5830i on stock rom and stupidly yesterday I downloaded a 30.14mb update which failed after installing 25% of it and now my internal memory is 30mb less!!! =( (if only I had known before hand you can't update a rooted phone!!)
Researching told me that OTA updates where stored in the cache so I tried wiping the cache in recovery and no joy. Using my ES File Explorer app the following folders show...
/data/cache/ is empty!
/cache/lost+found/ is empty!
/cache/recovery/ has a file called "last_log" which is only 7.23KB not 30mb! =(
So it would seem the failed update installed and as said above is in the system folders, so I guess unless I was told every single file/folder name and went and deleted them all all,. the only other way to get back the 30mb of internal memory would be to flash my phone back to the stock rom correct?
I really didn't want to muck about with flashing, I'm a total noob and tbh it scares me in case I muck it up and also then there is warranty issues, doesn't flashing make the bootload value increase each time, thus voiding your warranty if the value is not at the stock value of 0?! I decided to root my phone with the understanding that if I did need to do a warranty claim I could reload the bloatware apps, factory reset the phone and then unroot it thus putting it back to stock mode and more importantly the bootload value will remain the same as the phone has not been flashed!
So I am put off tbh if the only way for me to get my 30mb of internal space back is to flash it with the stock rom! =(
Does anyone know where the 30mb of files are and what they are called? Maybe it is just one file and not a lot because I understand now that when you do an OTA update it downloads the update but before installing checks the system's files and folders to check every is 100% stock and that the stock apps are there before installing the update. Well surely because this check failed on my phone then it didn't install the update and with any luck the 30mb download is still in one file?!
lol sorry to go on, this has really annoyed me, especially the fact that since it has happened yesterday I have literally spent about 7 hours on and off researching this on the net etc! =(
Thanks for your help,
James =)
lcrjames said:
Ok so I am in the exactly the same boat; rooted my GT-S5830i on stock rom and stupidly yesterday I downloaded a 30.14mb update which failed after installing 25% of it and now my internal memory is 30mb less!!! =( (if only I had known before hand you can't update a rooted phone!!)
Researching told me that OTA updates where stored in the cache so I tried wiping the cache in recovery and no joy. Using my ES File Explorer app the following folders show...
/data/cache/ is empty!
/cache/lost+found/ is empty!
/cache/recovery/ has a file called "last_log" which is only 7.23KB not 30mb! =(
So it would seem the failed update installed and as said above is in the system folders, so I guess unless I was told every single file/folder name and went and deleted them all all,. the only other way to get back the 30mb of internal memory would be to flash my phone back to the stock rom correct?
I really didn't want to muck about with flashing, I'm a total noob and tbh it scares me in case I muck it up and also then there is warranty issues, doesn't flashing make the bootload value increase each time, thus voiding your warranty if the value is not at the stock value of 0?! I decided to root my phone with the understanding that if I did need to do a warranty claim I could reload the bloatware apps, factory reset the phone and then unroot it thus putting it back to stock mode and more importantly the bootload value will remain the same as the phone has not been flashed!
So I am put off tbh if the only way for me to get my 30mb of internal space back is to flash it with the stock rom! =(
Does anyone know where the 30mb of files are and what they are called? Maybe it is just one file and not a lot because I understand now that when you do an OTA update it downloads the update but before installing checks the system's files and folders to check every is 100% stock and that the stock apps are there before installing the update. Well surely because this check failed on my phone then it didn't install the update and with any luck the 30mb download is still in one file?!
lol sorry to go on, this has really annoyed me, especially the fact that since it has happened yesterday I have literally spent about 7 hours on and off researching this on the net etc! =(
Thanks for your help,
James =)
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Firstly if you flash through CWM recovery & not odin your flash/binary count remains at 0, & you can easily reset the binary counter with a single click anyway if you ever needed your warranty, right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647703
Secondly as Android-fany has stated in his post, a failed update resides in the /system as multiple files & not a single file, so unless you flash either an official or custom rom/firmware, then you have no other options available, other than partitioning your sd card to make more space on internal memory!
& thirdly flashing roms/firmware REALLY isn't that difficult, look in the dev section & read the tutorials to the letter, then you should have no worries! (just remember to flash the CORRECT rom/firmware) official or custom for your particular device/model!)
CrackDaddy said:
Firstly if you flash through CWM recovery & not odin your flash/binary count remains at 0, & you can easily reset the binary counter with a single click anyway if you ever needed your warranty, right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647703
Secondly as Android-fany has stated in his post, a failed update resides in the /system as multiple files & not a single file, so unless you flash either an official or custom rom/firmware, then you have no other options available, other than partitioning your sd card to make more space on internal memory!
& thirdly flashing roms/firmware REALLY isn't that difficult, look in the dev section & read the tutorials to the letter, then you should have no worries! (just remember to flash the CORRECT rom/firmware) official or custom for your particular device/model!)
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I did a factory reset and all is good after reinstalling all my downloaded apps and putting all my settings/texts/contacts etc back on the phone, I now have 42mb more internal memory, since the failed OTA update =)
lcrjames said:
I did a factory reset and all is good after reinstalling all my downloaded apps and putting all my settings/texts/contacts etc back on the phone, I now have 42mb more internal memory, since the failed OTA update =)
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If you did a factory reset then you should have rooted & partitioned your sd card before you put everything back on mate
as you're only gonna be in the same predicament sometime soon, either through apps, msg's, media or yet another failed update taking your space!
Unfortunately the internal memory on the galaxy ace sucks period!
You can't have many apps on it then, or anything else for that matter!
CrackDaddy said:
If you did a factory reset then you should have rooted & partitioned your sd card before you put everything back on mate
as you're only gonna be in the same predicament sometime soon, either through apps, msg's, media or yet another failed update taking your space!
Unfortunately the internal memory on the galaxy ace sucks period!
You can't have many apps on it then, or anything else for that matter!
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Yeah I need to get round to partitioning my 16gb SD card (10gb is free) so all my apps are installed on that, don't suppose you know any simple guides? At the mo I am still forcing apps to install the majority part of it on the sd card from this guide I used when I first got my phone before I rooted.... http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...-force-install-apps-sd-card-without-root.html
I must admit it is very annoying that my apps positions change from what I want every time I turn my mob on and off or connect it to the PC with a cable (ie. every time it mounts and unmounts the SD card!)
Yea the galaxy ace internal memory sucks, but mine is a hell of a lot better than stock which was only about 85mb free out of the box which is quickly taken up by user apps/data etc, but I have 115mb free at the mo and I have about 25 user apps, which is fine for my use, One day I will partion my SD card though, I hope lol.
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Yeah I need to get round to partitioning my 16gb SD card (10gb is free) so all my apps are installed on that, don't suppose you know any simple guides? At the mo I am still forcing apps to install the majority part of it on the sd card from this guide I used when I first got my phone before I rooted.... http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...-force-install-apps-sd-card-without-root.html
I must admit it is very annoying that my apps positions change from what I want every time I turn my mob on and off or connect it to the PC with a cable (ie. every time it mounts and unmounts the SD card!)
Yea the galaxy ace internal memory sucks, but mine is a hell of a lot better than stock which was only about 85mb free out of the box which is quickly taken up by user apps/data etc, but I have 115mb free at the mo and I have about 25 user apps, which is fine for my use, One day I will partion my SD card though, I hope lol.
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I thaught you said you were noob & too scared to do anything with your phone?, lol! If you can follow that tutorial for using sdk tools & putting commands into cm prompt, then installing CWM zip on your sd card with root/unroot zip then rootiiing & partitioning & using Link2sd to put your apps on your sd card & never running out of space should be a doddle!
there's tons of guides, just use google, I'm sure even you can do that
Here: http://mnabil95.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-increase-internal-memory-galaxy.html
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CrackDaddy said:
I thaught you said you were noob & too scared to do anything with your phone?, lol! If you can follow that tutorial for using sdk tools & putting commands into cm prompt, then installing CWM zip on your sd card with root/unroot zip then rootiiing & partitioning & using Link2sd to put your apps on your sd card & never running out of space should be a doddle!
there's tons of guides, just use google, I'm sure even you can do that
Here: http://mnabil95.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-increase-internal-memory-galaxy.html
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Hi All, not been on here for a while to give update to my failed FW update cos was on holiday.
Anyway I have done nothing to my phone cos I was away and obviously been getting reminder regards FW update from Samsung but just keep postponing it because of problem.
I have read all the postings here since (some interesting and good points) but just a little bit confused because some members say use CWM and others say use Odin mmm, what is the best to use and do you require to have phone unrooted for both ??
Also where would I get this new FW update from because the last time I was on Sammobile (2wks ago) and I looked again when I got back from holiday it was not there.
Because I am a nooby I am just a little apprehensive lol
Just another point / if the binary counter on a phone was not at "0" would this cause new FW to fail when trying to install ??
Hi,
sorry to disturb you but I do have some little "problems" with my HTC ONE AT&T.
I bought this phone, simunlocked already, and with revone I put it SOFF and than I "converted" it to international version of it (thinking that keeping the AT&T versionI coudn't install internatinal rom...I understood I was wrong but anyway I'm from Europe so I like to have international CID).
Few strange things happened (I'm not sure if it's normal or not).
The first one is that it seems that my phone is loosing memory, it's supposed to have 32 Gb but, as you can see from the attachment, it has just 25.5 Gb, is that normal (I do use a really slim rom, just 150 Mb, but anyway it's the same with any rom I install)...is it normal? Is it possible to format ALL and restore all the memory to an initial state (where there shall be at least 30-31 Gb avaialble I think)??
The second is that sometimes, after installing a rom, exiting the aroma installer, the screen become black instead of getting me back to the recovery (actually it seems it brings me back to the recovery but the screen goes off and no way to turn it on...so force reboot and than everything works fine....but sometimes reinstalling the same rom over and over it works fine, it bring me back to recovery and I can normally reboot the system), is it normal?
Than during the boot it says that this is a test device and so on (a sentence written under the HTC logo), is there a way to remove it? I thought I could do it with revone (I thought it was the tempered flag) but I tried the following thing and isn't removing it even if it says succesfully: Re-run revone to remove TAMPERED from your HBOOT screen: ./revone -t (but maybe it's another thing).
So is there a way to remove that sentence?
Thanks,
Massimiliano
Storage size is normal to show 25.59... As android system uses the rest that you don't see
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TopoX84 said:
Storage size is normal to show 25.59... As android system uses the rest that you don't see
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Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Just go into settings and select storage. It tells you what is being used and by what.. Memory is used like a hard drive and it is formatted so the system can use it properly. That being said on 32GB you loose about 2GB to the formatting. Then the system and everything else on he phone uses it. There is also a swap file of several GB that is used when the 2GB of RAM is too full. There are also a couple of cache that use that memory as well. What you are seeing is typical storage usage of most phones running on Android. You loose around 7 to 10 GB to the system.
m.zambonelli said:
Is there a way to check if some part of the memory is lost/full from previous rom and it wasn't clean well??
I'm using this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50698141 it's realy minimal, without NOTHING, even the play store was missing...how can it use 7 Gb of memory?
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Well is like installing Linux on a computer.. The easy setup sets different partitions that the system is going to use for multiple purposes hence losing some GB in the process to be able to perform as required.
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Just go into settings and select storage. It tells you what is being used and by what.. Memory is used like a hard drive and it is formatted so the system can use it properly. That being said on 32GB you loose about 2GB to the formatting. Then the system and everything else on he phone uses it. There is also a swap file of several GB that is used when the 2GB of RAM is too full. There are also a couple of cache that use that memory as well. What you are seeing is typical storage usage of most phones running on Android. You loose around 7 to 10 GB to the system.
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Ok I do understand that but as you can see from the screenshot attached in Setting-Storage it says Total Space 25.59Gb, available 24 and something.
I would like to see/understand/access the remaining 6/7 Gb that are not showed there!
I've the feelings that the memory is decreasing every time I'm installing a rom, I also formatted EVERYTHING. loosing the operating system (than I had to push a rom in the memory) but still is like that!
Any suggestion or idea on how to see what is inside those 7 Gb "missing" from the total space?
Any way to format them?
It's not missing, open a terminal window and execute df command - that will list partitions. Data is 25.6GB, system 1.8GB, cache 600MB, etc. All 32GB are there, but are partitioned for different aspects of the OS, you can't change that.
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It's not missing, open a terminal window and execute df command - that will list partitions. Data is 25.6GB, system 1.8GB, cache 600MB, etc. All 32GB are there, but are partitioned for different aspects of the OS, you can't change that.
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Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff and then in some way restore it to a "default" (I don't know what I'm actually saying, I hope you understood what I mean...mainly like in any windows pc you can just remove all the partition, format all and reinstall the OS from zero).
Thanks a lot,
Massimiliano
p.s. I'm including the screenshot of my df result
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Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff
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It looks normal, you can't delete all of the partitions it would brick the phone. Flashing roms doesn't leave old files, because the install wipes the system first.
m.zambonelli said:
Thank you so much for your answer, I'm slowly understanding how this is working
I am than wondering if it's possible that multiple install of things (updating hboot, recovery, different rom and so on) can leave some "dirty" file or folder meaning that some not necessary files are still there taking space for nothing.
This is my df results, can you check if, for your opinion, everything is fine or if there is some folder too big as it shall be?
Another question is if it's possible to just delete ALL the 32Gb, removing all the partition and stuff and then in some way restore it to a "default" (I don't know what I'm actually saying, I hope you understood what I mean...mainly like in any windows pc you can just remove all the partition, format all and reinstall the OS from zero).
Thanks a lot,
Massimiliano
p.s. I'm including the screenshot of my df result
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I don't want to sound like an ass but what you have is normal so you are going to have to live with it. There is no way to get more memory cleared up unless you have absolutely nothing but the ROM running and nothing else downloaded and installed. Everyone who has the 32GB version of this phone has the same amount of memory as you. Some have less as they have installed other apps. added music, movies, and pictures.
The ONLY way you could get more memory is to get the 64GB version of this phone. I knew it did not have a card slot so I took that into account and bought the 64GB version so I would have plenty of space for anything I wanted.
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It looks normal, you can't delete all of the partitions it would brick the phone. Flashing roms doesn't leave old files, because the install wipes the system first.
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Ok, Thanks
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I don't want to sound like an ass but what you have is normal so you are going to have to live with it. There is no way to get more memory cleared up unless you have absolutely nothing but the ROM running and nothing else downloaded and installed. Everyone who has the 32GB version of this phone has the same amount of memory as you. Some have less as they have installed other apps. added music, movies, and pictures.
The ONLY way you could get more memory is to get the 64GB version of this phone. I knew it did not have a card slot so I took that into account and bought the 64GB version so I would have plenty of space for anything I wanted.
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If I knew that 32 Gb meant 25 I would consider to buy the 64 Gb too ... but other than te space I just wanted to understand IF it was normal that, after just flashed a really basic clean rom (just 156 mb of rom) it was normal to have just 25 Gb free (no other additional apps, no photo and so on) ... it's normal, ok, I'll be happy with that and next phone I'll consider a 64Gb version of it.
Thanks everyone for the reply
Hi, I'm new with this galaxy GT-S5830i and have to try to flash a new rom but I don't know this mobile and its characteristics.
I only understood the recovery is temporary but no, beetween many things, when to root/unroot it if is necessary. I'd like to know even the possibility to install apps in sd ext( I read many way to proceed). And all I' ve forgotten to write down.
Very very thanks who will give me a hand.
@ Giobio, well this post has been considered a good start. Possibility of moving your applications apk + dex + lib files through app such as link2sd ( rooting is required/works on stock/custom mod) is always possible. You can freely move your application to the second partition and creates symbolic links in the original locations on internal storage with ease mate. Even you could remove /data/data directory in paid version, but it would slow down your SD card non-FAT file system, not recommended. Integrate update into system is also accessible in your rooted device. and so much more you could accomplish,,,Instruction was given here was quite simple for start.
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Hi, I'm new with this galaxy GT-S5830i and have to try to flash a new rom but I don't know this mobile and its characteristics.
I only understood the recovery is temporary but no, beetween many things, when to root/unroot it if is necessary. I'd like to know even the possibility to install apps in sd ext( I read many way to proceed). And all I' ve forgotten to write down.
Very very thanks who will give me a hand.
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Please tell that what the actual problem that your facing so that i can help you accordingly
Raakib zargar said:
Please tell that what the actual problem that your facing so that i can help you accordingly
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Thanks to reply me but I think I've already solved. I gave back the phone to my friend...
Giobio said:
Hi, I'm new with this galaxy GT-S5830i and have to try to flash a new rom but I don't know this mobile and its characteristics.
I only understood the recovery is temporary but no, beetween many things, when to root/unroot it if is necessary. I'd like to know even the possibility to install apps in sd ext( I read many way to proceed). And all I' ve forgotten to write down.
Very very thanks who will give me a hand.
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For your problem To move apps to SD Card i can help you
*Download Link2Sd plus and set it up to move all your 3rd party apps to Sd Card even Whats App Moves to Sd card.
You can type *#9900# to free some memory on your device.