I am going out of country for 2 straight months and I might not have internet connection anywhere and I will not have roaming data. Therefore I want to make sure my phone is ready to serve me for 2 straight months with no problems;
-I need advice on the most most stable ROM out there right now, currently I am using Kingcobra 1.5.
-I have to learn how to precache an entire country on google maps, such as downloading the required map files.
-I have to know if it is possible to get full GPS support with all locations with no data.
-I need to have good battery life and no force closes on anything whatsoever.
Thanks!
Find a GB Rom, they're still the most stable Roms. I'd recommend stock kernel for battery life and stability. Heck maybe just run a stock rooted Rom if you're willing to
I'd buy a throw away mobile phone. You'd kill yourself on international data/minute fees.
Sent from my HTC Flyer using XDA Premium.
Honestly I haven't had one issues with KingCobra 1.5 so if it's working well for you, I wouldn't worry about it. GPS should work without data, as for pre-caching maps, I'm sure some apps will do it, I've heard Google Maps can now do it though I'm not sure how.
HI all,
well I dont know how far you gonna like my comment.
But i own few HTC phones and I've used lots of ROMS out there.
So far the most stable ROMs for the EVO3d are (GSM)
First LeDroid's 3D Rom -- > Super stable, had no issues, but based on Ginger Bread,
Mwakious 3d Rom (Code name : Democritus) - This sense 3.6, ICS based Rom is on version 8.6 when i checked yesterday, and I currently use this.
Its superb for international use, good signal strength, improved camera, and superb music,
Compared to king Cobra 3d ROM, mwakious rom stands out in the croud.
If you are traveling alot this is the best ROm to use,
Camera, Movies, Awsome sound, and stable Signal + WiFi
Although you will be able to pre-cache map areas using the Maps application, you will not get routing functionallity while offline! If you do only need the maps, fine, but you should consider this. If you need routing without a data plan, you might need to buy one of the commercial navigation apps on the market. BTW, if you want just maps, no routing, you're probably better off with "Locus" as pre-caching large areas with Maps can be a pain. Locus can display OSM maps, you can even download vectorized maps on your computer and then send them to your phone. There also are great OSM maps specialized on hiking/binking if you're going to need that. Just asked me if you're planning to use Locus and need some help getting started and/or finding the right maps.
In terms of battery life, I would suggest uninstalling every app that you are definitely not going to need on your trip (maybe even system apps like F***book), everything that might have some processes running in the background that could drain your battery.
Sorry, if the following is not really what you asked for, but you also might want to consider this:
It probably depends on where you're going but providers in many countries offer decent data plans with prepaid cellphone plans. Just buy one of these SIM-Cards in a local store and use that one during your stay. I remember that while I've been to the States for about month I bought myself a T-Mobile Prepaid Card that allowed me to geht 24h data flatrate for 1,29$ which I could (de)activate day-by-day. Here in Germany you could get a prepaid card with monthly data flatrate for 10€. Just try to find out what the country you're going to has to offer and consider buying a local SIM-Card if you will.
If all else fails, go to a Burger King or McDonalds somewhere, they usually do have free WiFi in most countries if you forgot to install an essential app or map tiles.
Have you tried mwakious3Drom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648407
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Ok so here is a quick question for you. I got my new device and whats better to flash on it? DCD or the new VZW release? Let me know and I will do it?
DCD is way ahead of the curb to any software release from any company, with his software it pays in spades what you originally got from the phone out of the box. GPS, PAN, DUN, sting SMS, faster better use of CPU and RAM the list is endless. hands down DCD's ROM is the industry standard.
the added value to the phone is nothing short of outstanding.
no question. dcd.
There is absolutely no way you can dobetter than DCD's Roms.
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Ok so here is a quick question for you. I got my new device and whats better to flash on it? DCD or the new VZW release? Let me know and I will do it?
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Oh boy, don't get me started. Read my rants in the thread I started about the official release. The only think worse you could do to your phone other than putting the VZW release on it is running it over with your car after pulling it out of the back of a dump truck thats filled with molten lava, uranium, and fast flying neutrino radiation. I would rather try conjuring the spirits of my dead grand mother in hopes that she could build a better ROM than this crappy, late to the game, outdated months before it came out, non supported, lacking GPS , bullsh*t ass VZW ROM.
I guess what I am trying to say is I would go with DCD's ROM ;c)
DISCLAIMER: Before anyone gets offended, this is solely my opinion (granted taken to an extreme!). Thank you for taking the time to view.
what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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Hey, that is a good point I didn't think about. We can use this to flash if we hose our phones.
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what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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LOL
Why do people continue to insist that the phone GPS is all that and a side of fries?
Has it ever occurred to you that some people dont give a rat's behind about GPS functionality on their phone? Guess what, I dont - I have a dedicated autonomous GPS which blows the crap out of anything you will get on your 6800's "gps" function.
Its not all about GPS you know - imagine that? There is a universe where things other than GPS is important
I've also tried a few of dcd's roms - great stuff - no doubt about it. But for the apps I run, the stock ROM seems to be better - blows your mind, I know.
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I have a dedicated autonomous GPS which blows the crap out of anything you will get on your 6800's "gps" function.
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What will your gps do that my Titan won't?
I would like to know what apps run better on the stock ROM. Seriously... I want to know.
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What will your gps do that my Titan won't?
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Are you kidding me? Do you even own a dedicated GPS unit like a Garmin or Magellan?
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I would like to know what apps run better on the stock ROM. Seriously... I want to know.
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I have a number of dedicated business and medical applications that run better with the stock rom than a few custom roms I've tried. For what/how I use my 6800 for, stock edges out custom roms.
If you use your 6800 like a toy, than its possible that a dcd or similar rom offers benefits. But for my purposes, the custom roms werent cutting.
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Are you kidding me? Do you even own a dedicated GPS unit like a Garmin or Magellan?
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No, but I run Garmin and TomTom on my Titan, so what can yours do that mine can't? Anything?
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No, but I run Garmin and TomTom on my Titan, so what can yours do that mine can't? Anything?
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
Well, I asked. I have never ran one of those programs so I have no idea how they compare to stock/DCD roms.
I use my device like a "toy" as much as I use it for e-mail, Excel editing and other business type applications.
Thanks for educating us.
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
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I usually refrain from posting, but err wha? This confusingly senseless posts seems to have dragged me out of my cave...
Is FM not only used as a very low cost alternative to using Cell Phone Data Networks? It is the same network built out by MS to support their MSN Direct Watches that they are now leasing to services like Garmin for GPS Traffic... Since the tech you mentioned is simply there to give the "real" GPS device access to data, how is it any "better"?
Do they release updates to their non-PDA GPS setups faster? Otherwise, it should be the same (provided the cell phone has data coverage)...
Unless Garmin doesn't provide real time traffic at all on their PDA stuff?
I too am curious on the apps though... As DCD 3.2.6 is the fastest ROM I've ever touched on my Mogul (not saying much since I've only owned it 1.5 months and have only ran Stock + Stock latest + DCD 3.2.5 and 3.2.6). It runs everything faster and just "better".
I don't use my PDA as a "toy" so I'd recommend you not lump anyone who doesn't do exactly what you do into the kid with a toy category.
Depending on your applications needs you might be better off using the kitchen for DCD roms to be sure the stuff you need is included.
I had to add the Enterprise option to my ROM so it would sync with my exchange server (as my phone has to be able to enforce my corporate exchange policies).
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I usually refrain from posting, but err wha? This confusingly senseless posts seems to have dragged me out of my cave...
Is FM not only used as a very low cost alternative to using Cell Phone Data Networks? It is the same network built out by MS to support their MSN Direct Watches that they are now leasing to services like Garmin for GPS Traffic... Since the tech you mentioned is simply there to give the "real" GPS device access to data, how is it any "better"?
Do they release updates to their non-PDA GPS setups faster? Otherwise, it should be the same (provided the cell phone has data coverage)...
Unless Garmin doesn't provide real time traffic at all on their PDA stuff?...
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Its only a pointless post if you didnt go back far enough in the thread to see where someone was asking me about something specific.
Either the 6800 is capable of receiving live traffic updates or its not - it obviously cant get RDS so we know its not getting updates there. Can it get it over another network?
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I too am curious on the apps though... As DCD 3.2.6 is the fastest ROM I've ever touched on my Mogul (not saying much since I've only owned it 1.5 months and have only ran Stock + Stock latest + DCD 3.2.5 and 3.2.6). It runs everything faster and just "better".
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Sorry but I tried 3.2.5 and 3.2.6 and found the stock rom to be faster
I love how people try to tell me that the custom rom is faster and that I must be mistaken - arguing with someone over their experience with anything is completely pointless. If in your use dcd's rom was faster, then great - in my experience it was not and hence I went back to the stock rom (unhappily since at that time I had to give up RevA)
I don't use my PDA as a "toy" so I'd recommend you not lump anyone who doesn't do exactly what you do into the kid with a toy category.
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Point well taken - my apologies
Depending on your applications needs you might be better off using the kitchen for DCD roms to be sure the stuff you need is included.
I had to add the Enterprise option to my ROM so it would sync with my exchange server (as my phone has to be able to enforce my corporate exchange policies).
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EXACTLY! Thats what I've been saying all along - depending on your needs, the stock rom will be fine or you may need to go with a custom rom
Now we are back on topic
My TomTom software pulls real-time traffic. Live Search can even pull the traffic in real time..provided you have a data connection.
That is the real difference, not that it cannot get the traffic but the method it does and if it costs anything. I got the unlimited data so it is a non-issue to me, but with a limited data plan a dedicated GPS will win out based on that function alone.
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I have a number of dedicated business and medical applications that run better with the stock rom than a few custom roms I've tried. For what/how I use my 6800 for, stock edges out custom roms.
If you use your 6800 like a toy, than its possible that a dcd or similar rom offers benefits. But for my purposes, the custom roms werent cutting.
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What medical app runs better on a stock ROM than on a dcd ROM? Please name any specific app? Lexi-...? PocketMed? Harrison's? Even Epocrates?
If you're going to make this claim publicly, back it up with ANY specific app you've used which runs better on stock in your opinion so others can weigh in or test your claims. That's only fair when you're slandering dcd ROM's as better for "play" than "work." If you have "a number of..... apps that run better with the stock rom" surely you can name at least one, but I notice you don't.
I say, put up or shut up.
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
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Then why waste your time posting here then? If stock if great for you then why waste your time on a forum for making custom ROMs? I think the GPS in the Titan is just as good as any hand held. TomTom, Live Search, Google Maps and others all can receive realtime traffic through the standard data network. Also TomTom devices are Windows CE embedded devices and use bluetooth connection to a data phone for the real time traffic and other services. So for me having one unit that I can carry to do GPS, email (work and personal), Geocaching, Bible, and internet search is invaluable. Since VZW seems to want to charge for using the GPS then we have DCD. If you don't care about the internal GPS then be happy with the stock ROMs. Better or faster is a matter of opinion that is true, but if I don't have to deal with all the bloatware that comes with the stock ROM the less that will take up precious memory. For me DCD/GC has made my phone a tool that enables me to work outside of my office, it is definitely not a toy.
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Its only a pointless post if you didnt go back far enough in the thread to see where someone was asking me about something specific.
Either the 6800 is capable of receiving live traffic updates or its not - it obviously cant get RDS so we know its not getting updates there. Can it get it over another network?
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I've read every page of this thread prior to posting. I read far more than I post by a long shot. I rarely post without listening (reading) first.
I posted because FM RDS is simply a data connection. Nothing more, Nothing less. With that in mind it would mean as long as the 6800 has a data connection it should show the same exact traffic information as a standalone "real" GPS device, unless either real-time traffic isn't a provided feature or the traffic provider prioritizes one device class over another.
Sorry but I tried 3.2.5 and 3.2.6 and found the stock rom to be faster
I love how people try to tell me that the custom rom is faster and that I must be mistaken - arguing with someone over their experience with anything is completely pointless. If in your use dcd's rom was faster, then great - in my experience it was not and hence I went back to the stock rom (unhappily since at that time I had to give up RevA)
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I wasn't slamming you as being inaccurate in your usage findings. There are far too many variations of this device to be absolutely certain they don't have more than just cosmetic differences. I was just adding to the thread collective my experience of DCD being a LOT faster than stock. As I also pointed out, my experience with the Mogul doesn't run that long. I just recently moved to it from my HTC Wizard.
Although it does help if you cite specifics. Such as "App XYZ runs faster" or whatnot so someone else using it can chime in and agree or what not. Unless you wrote the app for yourself you can't assume none of us run it
Weird stuff going on with my local cell towers and the network location provider on my Aria.
For the longest time, I'd been using the Aria Liberated R012 ROM. I never had any problems with using the network location provider in various apps (HTC Date/Weather Clock, Google Maps, Yelp, etc.) until just about two weeks ago.
I noticed that on the road from home to work, I wasn't getting ANY location fix. But when I'd take a trip out to a different location for shopping, suddenly I'd get the location updates again. GPS works fine, but I don't want to keep it on all the time for simple location data.
I thought perhaps AT&T's recent slews of OTA updates might have something to do with it. So I decided I'd do something I was planning on doing for a while now anyway: load a newer ROM which might incorporate any patches that AT&T had made.
I opted for Cyanogen 7. Installed it last night. Found it ran a little sluggish on my Aria (even after overclocking), but noted that my network location provider was working again.
I ultimately decided that I couldn't deal with the sluggishness. So this morning, I installed Cyanogen 6, AND THEN I tried out the new Aria Liberated 2.2.2 ROM. What I noticed in BOTH of these Froyo builds, was that my network location provider was once again NOT working.
I know part of this puzzle involves the configuration of AT&T's local cell towers. But what about the rest of it: why would Cyanogen 7 (Gingerbread) work, while Cyanogen 6 and Liberated 2.2.2 (Froyo) fail?
And in the case of the two Cyanogen mods, might the difference have something to do with what version of the Google Apps addon I install? When I get a free minute today, I might do some further testing on this last theory. Scratch that theory. I had previously tried installing Cyanogen 6 with a version of Google Apps from 2010. But even with a Google Apps APK from May 1st, 2011, the network location provider ain't providin'.
Regards,
Corporate Dog
Corporate Dog said:
Weird stuff going on with my local cell towers and the network location provider on my Aria.
For the longest time, I'd been using the Aria Liberated R012 ROM. I never had any problems with using the network location provider in various apps (HTC Date/Weather Clock, Google Maps, Yelp, etc.) until just about two weeks ago.
I noticed that on the road from home to work, I wasn't getting ANY location fix. But when I'd take a trip out to a different location for shopping, suddenly I'd get the location updates again. GPS works fine, but I don't want to keep it on all the time for simple location data.
I thought perhaps AT&T's recent slews of OTA updates might have something to do with it. So I decided I'd do something I was planning on doing for a while now anyway: load a newer ROM which might incorporate any patches that AT&T had made.
I opted for Cyanogen 7. Installed it last night. Found it ran a little sluggish on my Aria (even after overclocking), but noted that my network location provider was working again.
I ultimately decided that I couldn't deal with the sluggishness. So this morning, I installed Cyanogen 6, AND THEN I tried out the new Aria Liberated 2.2.2 ROM. What I noticed in BOTH of these Froyo builds, was that my network location provider was once again NOT working.
I know part of this puzzle involves the configuration of AT&T's local cell towers. But what about the rest of it: why would Cyanogen 7 (Gingerbread) work, while Cyanogen 6 and Liberated 2.2.2 (Froyo) fail?
And in the case of the two Cyanogen mods, might the difference have something to do with what version of the Google Apps addon I install? When I get a free minute today, I might do some further testing on this last theory. Scratch that theory. I had previously tried installing Cyanogen 6 with a version of Google Apps from 2010. But even with a Google Apps APK from May 1st, 2011, the network location provider ain't providin'.
Regards,
Corporate Dog
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While I can't help with the actual problem, cm7 has a lot of eye candy turned on by default that can be turned off. It needs a little love but you can definitely get rid of that sluggishness and it will run very smooth and snappy.
Sent from my cm7 Aria.
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While I can't help with the actual problem, cm7 has a lot of eye candy turned on by default that can be turned off. It needs a little love but you can definitely get rid of that sluggishness and it will run very smooth and snappy.
Sent from my cm7 Aria.
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Thanks! I'll probably take a second look at that cm7 thread when I get a chance, and might even try to reinstall it.
For what it's worth, the Aria Liberated 2.2.2 thread clued me in to the fact that AT&T also pushed a radio update when they pushed the OS update. It's possible they made some tweaks to my local cell towers that don't play nice with the old radio configuration. Guess I'll try to install that radio update next.
EDIT: And that's strike two.
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Corporate Dog
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Thanks! I'll probably take a second look at that cm7 thread when I get a chance, and might even try to reinstall it.
For what it's worth, the Aria Liberated 2.2.2 thread clued me in to the fact that AT&T also pushed a radio update when they pushed the OS update. It's possible they made some tweaks to my local cell towers that don't play nice with the old radio configuration. Guess I'll try to install that radio update next.
EDIT: And that's strike two.
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Corporate Dog
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Your radio only needs to be installed once. It doesn't get cleared or overwritten when you wipe/install new ROMs through Clockworkmod. You can check the version either from the HBOOT screen or from Phone settings when booted up.
It's HIGHLY recommended that you not change the radio version more than absolutely necessary as it is a very risky installation that can permanently brick your phone if it goes wrong. I'm not saying to be scared of installing it once, but just don't install it every time you install a ROM.
As for CM7 -- I find that the default launcher (ADW) lags like crazy. I always immediately switch to LauncherPro and get a much smoother experience. You should probably give that a try.
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While I can't help with the actual problem, cm7 has a lot of eye candy turned on by default that can be turned off. It needs a little love but you can definitely get rid of that sluggishness and it will run very smooth and snappy.
Sent from my cm7 Aria.
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What default options are turned on?
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What default options are turned on?
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Surface dithering, over scroll effects, and window animations are a few I can remember off the top of my head. Turn those off and drop vm heap down to 24 (or 16 if your apps allow it) and set home to persistent and you get a nice little boost. Then there's the fact that adw is set up for looks, not performance, out of the box. Scroll and opening speeds are set rather slow.
I'm not sure about adw, but launcherpro also has advanced settings to tweak for performance gains.
Sent from my cm7 Aria.
Heh. Turns out I was wrong about cm7. I must've had GPS turned on at the time, because my latest test run with it isn't producing a network location fix.
Time to go 10 rounds with AT&T tech support. Should be real fun trying to explain to the level 1 script reader that there's a problem with their local cell tower.
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A new development:
When I go into Settings and check 'Use Only 2G Networks', network-based positioning works again.
Seems to be some sort of problem with WCDMA versus GSM. I've managed to dig up some other threads (in this forum and others) where folks with other types of phones (N1, HTC Inspire) have reported similar issues.
I blamed AT&T in my last post, but I've also seen a suggestion that the problem might have something to do with a setting in the Google Services Framework that points to an incorrect URL for the LAC/CID to Lat/Long translation service. I may play with that when I get a chance.
That also doesn't really explain why my original Eclair mod stopped working, or why more people don't seem to have this problem.
More information as it becomes available...
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Corporate Dog
Regarding radio, i have the latest radio that was posted. It seems to have improved my reception fairly well.
Meh. The Google Services Framework fix that I found...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9576852&postcount=108
... didn't do anything for me. YMMV.
At this point, I suspect that I have to chalk this up to cell tower configuration.
Regards,
Corporate Dog
EDIT: Just got off the phone with AT&T Customer Support. I called them a few days ago, and the Level 1 support drone forewarded me to the "TeleNav" service center (despite all of my protestations). TeleNav support proceeded to tell me that they don't do support for phones (Gosh. You don't say...) Today's Level 1 drone was a bit better, and forwarded me to someone who actually seemed to be in a position to help.
He didn't have an answer for me, but he WAS willing to help me escalate this to an engineering ticket. He told me to go pick up a new sim card at my local AT&T store, and see if a new sim/device provisioning would take care of the issue. In the meantime, he's sending me a second Aria through the Warranty Exchange process, so I can try to recreate the issue on a different phone.
If I strike out on both counts, he'll escalate it. Otherwise, I'll have a solution of SOME kind sitting in the palm of my hand.
Is setting home for persistent only for adw launcher ?
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Surface dithering, over scroll effects, and window animations are a few I can remember off the top of my head. Turn those off and drop vm heap down to 24 (or 16 if your apps allow it) and set home to persistent and you get a nice little boost. Then there's the fact that adw is set up for looks, not performance, out of the box. Scroll and opening speeds are set rather slow.
I'm not sure about adw, but launcherpro also has advanced settings to tweak for performance gains.
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The new sim card didn't do anything for me.
But suddenly, completely out of the blue, at some point yesterday afternoon...? The network location provider decided that it wanted to begin working for my area again. I hadn't done a THING to the configuration on my phone all day, and when I stepped outside my office, it just worked.
I think I'll still call AT&T back, and ask them what the hell they changed with their cell tower configuration. I doubt I'll get anywhere with it, but it would be useful to know, since this seems to be a random thing that occurs from time-to-time on different carriers (the link I provided earlier described the same issue, but on Rogers Communication's network).
Regards,
Corporate Dog
UPDATE: I called AT&T today, and unfortunately, they couldn't tell me whether anything changed on their towers. It'd be nice to know what they were tinkering with, so I could just cut to the chase with tech support if it happens again, but for now, I guess I'll just be happy that it's working again.
A site I work at has no cell coverage, but does have wifi (no internet, just on-site wifi). I'd like to get a couple "portable data terminals", and while there are some very nice commercial/industrial solutions, they're ~$1-2k/pop. Looking at specs, my cheapest option is a cell phone running Gingerbread (native VOIP) and the basic mail/IM apps.
Would one of the LG Optimus S/T/V/etc phones (that I can get, non-contract, for ~$100/pop) be a good fit?
My criteria are:
1. Decent wifi support
2. At least one Gingerbread-based ROM with no major known issues
3. Battery life of (at an absolute minumum) 12 hours with moderate (VOIP + email + IM) use (please note, that's with wifi on but GPS and 1/2/3G radios off), and preferably more like 16 hours.
4. Aftermarket parts (like screen protectors and cases)
Get Opt T. Comes with Tmo's Wifi Calling. Then just flash a custom 2.3 ROM with fserves goldenleaf kernel for battery life.
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Get Opt T. Comes with Tmo's Wifi Calling. Then just flash a custom 2.3 ROM with fserves goldenleaf kernel for battery life.
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I don't think there's WiFi calling on p500 ROMs so that might be a problem.
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Your best bet, go with GingerLOL, it has the best battery life I have heard from any user who is using official gingerbread, our phones never came with the official gingerbread, atleast not that I know about, I'm in the US, figured all OpT devices that aren't rooted are still on froyo....as far as price range, I'm not sure but you might be able to grab em off eBay for alittle under a hundred bucks
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There is an unofficial port of gingerbread that has Wi-Fi calling...I can't remember the name of it but I think it's RevOpt...just go through the stickies in android development of our forum and you'll see a post by ciaox, he does a good job on of keeping up with all rom versions and updates
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247
This link will take you to ciaox one in all Opt page, great use of information...each rom is separate by version
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Jrhodes85 said:
There is an unofficial port of gingerbread that has Wi-Fi calling...I can't remember the name of it but I think it's RevOpt...just go through the stickies in android development of our forum and you'll see a post by ciaox, he does a good job on of keeping up with all rom versions and updates
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Isn't that froyo based?
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Reverend_Dave said:
A site I work at has no cell coverage, but does have wifi (no internet, just on-site wifi). I'd like to get a couple "portable data terminals", and while there are some very nice commercial/industrial solutions, they're ~$1-2k/pop. Looking at specs, my cheapest option is a cell phone running Gingerbread (native VOIP) and the basic mail/IM apps.
Would one of the LG Optimus S/T/V/etc phones (that I can get, non-contract, for ~$100/pop) be a good fit?
My criteria are:
1. Decent wifi support
2. At least one Gingerbread-based ROM with no major known issues
3. Battery life of (at an absolute minumum) 12 hours with moderate (VOIP + email + IM) use (please note, that's with wifi on but GPS and 1/2/3G radios off), and preferably more like 16 hours.
4. Aftermarket parts (like screen protectors and cases)
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Judging by the phones you've listed you're in the U.S. The HTC Wildfire S is the cheapest GB Android with native WiFi calling.
1. Any T-Mobile Android includes native WiFi Calling via Kineto and works really well.
2. Gingerbread with WiFi calling on the Optimus T is a no go. Froyo only.
3. Really depends, "moderate" isn't descriptive enough.
4. Opt T has a plastic screen, screen protector is a must.
Also, consider Wifi calling via GrooveIP which uses Google Voice and is FREE. Call quality isn't top notch and receiving calls via WiFi doesn't work well. Upside, it'll work on any Android and with all carriers.
Cheapest option. A SOHO ATA with a standard cordless phone. I love my OBi100
For battery life i suggest getting an extended battery pack. Using your phone as a "data terminal" and wanting to have 12 hours is near impossible
Yes, I am US-based. I know the TMobile UMA (wifi-calling) system, it's pretty cool (works great in basements etc). Unfortunately, won't work in this case due to lack of Internet access. VOIP calling would be via a SIP server on the local network.
I'm expecting "moderate usage" to be a couple minutes of calling a day and some IM/email (again, talking to servers on the local network), it's probably "light-to-nonexistant usage" relative to the modern teenager. Goal is to replace/supplement existing walkie-talkies, which get flaky at longer ranges or when more than one person is trying to talk at the same time. (If you're wondering why I think wifi will work better... because we already use the wifi for other stuff in most of the places we send people.)
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Yes, I am US-based. I know the TMobile UMA (wifi-calling) system, it's pretty cool (works great in basements etc). Unfortunately, won't work in this case due to lack of Internet access. VOIP calling would be via a SIP server on the local network.
I'm expecting "moderate usage" to be a couple minutes of calling a day and some IM/email (again, talking to servers on the local network), it's probably "light-to-nonexistant usage" relative to the modern teenager. Goal is to replace/supplement existing walkie-talkies, which get flaky at longer ranges or when more than one person is trying to talk at the same time. (If you're wondering why I think wifi will work better... because we already use the wifi for other stuff in most of the places we send people.)
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I understand now. In that case any phone would work. However, Gingerbread is only available via an unofficial port. I'm currently using miks unofficial port of CM7 6.5.8 (Gingerbread) on my Optimus T and it's stable and bug free for daily use IMO.
The native SIP app in Android is very immature. SIPDroid is the best option available IMO. Battery life should meet your requirements, a stun server will help with battery life. My opinion of SIP on Android as a whole isn't good though. I've used it with pbxes and voip.ms. I had audio delay issues but your local setup may help reduce the affect.
I suggest you buy a couple and see how it goes. There's a 30 day return policy so you have nothing to loose (except time).
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The native SIP app in Android is very immature. SIPDroid is the best option available IMO. Battery life should meet your requirements, a stun server will help with battery life. My opinion of SIP on Android as a whole isn't good though. I've used it with pbxes and voip.ms. I had audio delay issues but your local setup may help reduce the affect.
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How would a STUN server help with battery life? If it does, it's easy to set up, but phones would all be living in the same IP space (with the SIP box), so NAT traversal isn't an issue.
I've looked at bits of the Android source associated with the SIP stack (and the API for accessing it), and yeah, it doesn't inspire awe. However, given that LTE is native(ish...) IP, and voice-over-LTE is SIP (admittedly, with a lot of extensions from the 3GPP), I'm expecting Android SIP support is going to get better.
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How would a STUN server help with battery life? If it does, it's easy to set up, but phones would all be living in the same IP space (with the SIP box), so NAT traversal isn't an issue.
I've looked at bits of the Android source associated with the SIP stack (and the API for accessing it), and yeah, it doesn't inspire awe. However, given that LTE is native(ish...) IP, and voice-over-LTE is SIP (admittedly, with a lot of extensions from the 3GPP), I'm expecting Android SIP support is going to get better.
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As a user I remember battery life was better when I connected to a STUN server. I've only used SIP on Android connecting via the internet, you're right it's useless in your scenario.
Audio latency was my biggest gripe and may not have been entirely Androids fault. I think your situation is about as ideal as it gets. Lack of opposing side (internet) and your ability to control timeouts and packet size may be the answer. If you do decide to try it, please let me/us know how it works out.
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Audio latency was my biggest gripe and may not have been entirely Androids fault. I think your situation is about as ideal as it gets. Lack of opposing side (internet) and your ability to control timeouts and packet size may be the answer. If you do decide to try it, please let me/us know how it works out.
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Most of my (expected) use is to replace what goes over the walkie-talkies, stuff like "come to the office" or "Bob, go to the back gate", which tends to be short and not terribly latency sensitive. I'll probably try it, but it won't go live for a couple months.
There's a nifty spec for push-to-talk-over-cellular, which is actually a 3GPP-written SIP extension, which is way, way, way beyond anything the SIP stack in Android is capable of dealing with at this point. Oh, well...
Hey guys, I live in the suburbs of Buffalo. Notorious for Sprint having the worst service.. Everyone else is on 4G LTE, but we're stuck with BAD 3g, not even good 3g. I use the google voice app for texts/calls, I've been using it for years, and I plan on keeping my google voice # because I absolutely love the service. I have some reception questions however
- does it matter what radio I'm on? Are radio's compatible with other roms, fx: giverbread radio compatible with ICS? i'm on 1.09.00.706
- does PRL matter that much? I'm on 21090
- does it matter what ROM i'm on?
- please any tips/advice anything I can do to get better service
- also if anyone is from Buffalo/WNY and gets good reception, can you tell me your phone stats, prl, radio, rom, etc
I'm getting horrible service on my phone, reception sucks, 3g dl/upload sucks. In school I don't even dream of getting reception in class/library.. I'm just fing sick of this crap reception.
I also wanted to mention, my buddy has a sprint iphone 4s and his reception is WAY better than mine. He has one of the same classes as me, sits right next to me and he's able to go on the internet, etc on his phone just fine while I get 0 reception! Also we go to the same bar a couple times a week where I get absolutely no reception and he always does. I'm pretty sure it's something with my phone. Also I want to mention this is my 3rd evo 3d, all with the same issue, they have all always been rooted etc, so I can confirm my hardware is not faulty, the phone is practically new.
Thank you in advance for reading my thread / helping out
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Hey guys, I live in the suburbs of Buffalo. Notorious for Sprint having the worst service.. Everyone else is on 4G LTE, but we're stuck with BAD 3g, not even good 3g. I use the google voice app for texts/calls, I've been using it for years, and I plan on keeping my google voice # because I absolutely love the service. I have some reception questions however
- does it matter what radio I'm on? Are radio's compatible with other roms, fx: giverbread radio compatible with ICS? i'm on 1.09.00.706
- does PRL matter that much? I'm on 21090
- does it matter what ROM i'm on?
- please any tips/advice anything I can do to get better service
- also if anyone is from Buffalo/WNY and gets good reception, can you tell me your phone stats, prl, radio, rom, etc
I'm getting horrible service on my phone, reception sucks, 3g dl/upload sucks. In school I don't even dream of getting reception in class/library.. I'm just fing sick of this crap reception.
I also wanted to mention, my buddy has a sprint iphone 4s and his reception is WAY better than mine. He has one of the same classes as me, sits right next to me and he's able to go on the internet, etc on his phone just fine while I get 0 reception! Also we go to the same bar a couple times a week where I get absolutely no reception and he always does. I'm pretty sure it's something with my phone. Also I want to mention this is my 3rd evo 3d, all with the same issue, they have all always been rooted etc, so I can confirm my hardware is not faulty, the phone is practically new.
Thank you in advance for reading my thread / helping out
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I will be glad to help answer your questions. Since you are on latest radio firmware. GB roms are not compatible with this radio firmware. If you really like GB, you could always flash the older ruu's which will get you back onto GB.
As for prl, its a bit tricky. Prl's give instructions to tell your phone which towers to run off of and all that good stuff. Sometimes doing a prl update and or a data profile update can cure you of slow 3g speeds. (I have slow 3g speeds myself in my own home) but when i walk away from my house, it gets a little better. There are a couple things you can do. Since you have root you could open your dialer (you have to be on a sense rom for this to work) type##3282#. Under edit, type your msl code (if you know it). If not. Real easy. Download msl reader from googleplay and open the app. It will give you your msl code. No sweat right? Anyway once you enter your msl code there will be a list of option. Click on advance and scoll down to the bottom where it says something like htts or http and click on it. Once inside type these numbers in the correct spot and in the following order:
0.0.0.0
0
0.0.0.0
0
I forgot what the headings were called. Sorry. But if you enter these numbers in the correct spots like i showed you it will give you increased data speeds. After you do that just back of out epst and hit reboot to make sure the changes take place.
Now as to which rom you are on. Sometimes that does matter. Some roms have 3g speeds already tweaked like I had shown you. Generally roms that were built from source or specifically built for that phone have better speeds than ones that were ported from another device. (Due to moderator preference I cannot tell you which ones are the best) So you will have to test them out yourself. You could also try the v6 turbocharge script. Heres the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276.Please read the instructions carefully and get the latest script. I recommend being on a deodexed rom. Make sure you make a nandroid first before attempting this. The script will take you step by step. Also, wipe cache (not dalvik) before you run the script. I forgot to mention, to run this script I recommend smanager from google play. Just remember to enable the app as root and when you get ready to run the script, you have latest busy box and enable su on the script by highlight the skull and crossbone icon. When the script takes you to drive options, there is an option where you can enable 3g tweaks. Turn it on and see if that helps you. (just remember to do a superclean and restart when your done running the script) There was another another script by itself called 3g turbo if you want to give that a shot as well. Its located on the link I provided you. If none of these things work for you, you can always run the scripts again and turn them off plus reboot. If it causes your phone to freeze up or not boot, just restore your nandroid. I hope this helps you out.
awesome response! I will surely to try these options when I get home, I really appreciate it!
No problem.
Hi Guys,
I know that a lot of people hate verizon's skype. I like it because it has the BT working and is using a phone not data.
Minutes are not considered toward monthly cap and it is very reliable as far as a connection goes .
Unfortunately it says not supported by this device. Use the other.
The normal skype app is not that good, resource consuming BT does not work, and it eat up a lot of data.
Esp bad when moving or insinde some buildings where signal is poorer.
My questions is if it could be modded to work on note 2.
On my GN works fine.
Many thanks
Abe
abe_cedar said:
Hi Guys,
I know that a lot of people hate verizon's skype. I like it because it has the BT working and is using a phone not data.
Minutes are not considered toward monthly cap and it is very reliable as far as a connection goes .
Unfortunately it says not supported by this device. Use the other.
The normal skype app is not that good, resource consuming BT does not work, and it eat up a lot of data.
Esp bad when moving or insinde some buildings where signal is poorer.
My questions is if it could be modded to work on note 2.
On my GN works fine.
Many thanks
Abe
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Im sure if u found an older version of skype mobile it will i had to do that with my droid 4
will try
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Im sure if u found an older version of skype mobile it will i had to do that with my droid 4
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It could also b that vzw does not support it in jb. I cant find the app with my nexus on the market but installed and it worked on a custom rom.
I am hoping once custom rom will b released I can try.
I have an OG droid. I can extract the app from there.
I did install several apps 1.6.0.0 and the latest. None of them work.
One tells me that this app works only on verizon the others that there is a better version of skype.
My gripe is with the main skype app. Poor. Heavy on resources, a lot of data, battery, cpu, does not have BT working.
I cannot use when moving it sounds horrible and I am in a very good LTE area. That app works fine while still in a spot with good LTE connection or WiFi.
I love the original skype because is a simple verizon "phone call". No, it does not uses minutes since is a in network call, and the BT works. It always did. Also there is not data used almost at all
I use skype a lot with people abroad and is as good as any phone call but free and I can get the reliability of VZW network.
Now I have my GN with me and the Note 2 as well. Not a pleasant solution
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Abe
Wow, I totally forgot about this.
Yeah, that would be cool as hell to use minutes and bluetooth.
Wonder if there are any existing XDA modded versions.
Some google searching is turning up repeated mentions of such a mod .apk.
So infuriating that newest skype doesn't support bluetooth.
GRRR
Some people point to mono audio app in market as a way to force routing audio to bluetooth. This may be a partial solution fwiw.
I have RAZR Maxx HD and when I was on ICS there was a way to do it... when I tried to send an IM using Skype, it was automatically loading "Verizon's version" of Skype and then I could call anybody and anyone could call me using verizon's cellular network (not data)... not anymore... JB plugged the hole and many other. Courtesy of Verizon wireless, where customer comes last and primary goal is to milk us and generate hefty profits and bonuses... darn it.
JB vs ICS
I might be JB vs ICS. I have a Gnexus ( toro) with custom JB on it and it works fine.
I am hoping that some aosp rom would make this app work again.
I have tried in a store all the motorola and the S3 not of them would run this light Skype.
I think it has to do with the model number.
Ok. I found a way to do it. Uninstall new Skype and install "Verizon's" skype.
Next click on People and choose IM and person's nick you wanna call (it has to be assigned as skype contact) it will take you to "Verizon" skype and no need to use data.