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So my ****hole of a country just announced we're getting the Samsung Galaxy S2 with the Trega 2 processors at 1.0 Ghz, but at least it's with the SAMOLED+.
It's the i9103 I'm guessing?
So are there any test or benchmarks of this version of the Galaxy S2 anywhere?
All of civilized civilization got the Exynos and obviously it a very good CPU. So all of the reviews out there are indeed of the 1.2 Ghz Exynos model.
So I can't really find a benchmark on the Terga 2 version.
Does anyone know of any tests?
UPDATE
In the end it turns out that this was just a press release mixup and Croatia is indeed getting the exynos version!
I feel you man But we'll be in the same boat when the NFC i9100 comes along...
I'd sure like to believe that... but considering that literally no one in Croatia uses NFC I doubt we'll get it at all.
It sucks. I guess that I will buy my device in Slovenija. Guess they will have exynos version?
One of my friends say:"My country-little banana"
Not a ****hole, it's a really nice country
Anyway, you can always import one from other countries, I imported mine from UK. Of course guarantee might be a problematic issue if anything goes wrong, but oh well...
I wouldn't be that concerned if I were you
Mew178 said:
So my ****hole of a country just announced we're getting the Samsung Galaxy S2 with the Trega 2 processors at 1.0 Ghz, but at least it's with the SAMOLED+.
It's the i9103 I'm guessing?
So are there any test or benchmarks of this version of the Galaxy S2 anywhere?
All of civilized civilization got the Exynos and obviously it a very good CPU. So all of the reviews out there are indeed of the 1.2 Ghz Exynos model.
So I can't really find a benchmark on the Terga 2 version.
Does anyone know of any tests?
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At least you won't have problems with playing 3D games.
valdigre said:
Not a ****hole, it's a really nice country
Anyway, you can always import one from other countries, I imported mine from UK. Of course guarantee might be a problematic issue if anything goes wrong, but oh well...
I wouldn't be that concerned if I were you
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hrcro said:
It sucks. I guess that I will buy my device in Slovenija. Guess they will have exynos version?
One of my friends say:"My country-little banana"
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Yeah problem is I don't really have 600€ or more to spend on the device I'd only get it on T-mobile because I have tons of points and I waited 6 months to renew the contract. So It would be more along the lines of 100~200€ with the contracts and stuff...
Also I live in Osijek and thats really far away from Austria, Italy or Slovenia...
It wouldn't bother me if the UK version was the Tegra 2, previously had a Optimus x2 with tegra 2 and it was nice and fast, wouldn't have concerned me either way but maybe look at some Optimus X2 benchies to give you an idea.
Before I sold the 2x to get this phone I had it clocked up to 1.4 gig without any issues but I can't for the life of me remember the quadrant score I got on it
It will probably be faster clock for clock....
valdigre said:
Not a ****hole, it's a really nice country
Anyway, you can always import one from other countries, I imported mine from UK. Of course guarantee might be a problematic issue if anything goes wrong, but oh well...
I wouldn't be that concerned if I were you
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Warranty means a lot these days...
As always, we in Croatia get crumbs...sad, real sad
At least with the Tegra 2, it will play all the new 3D HD-version games being released in the market whereas the Exynos version needs to wait for someone to hack the apk.
lol at OPs reference to his country
Anyway I had an atrix which I canned for an SGS2. I realize its not comparing apples to apples but the samsung feels a lot snappier / faster / smoother. I have the sammy powered with the exynos.
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It wouldn't bother me if the UK version was the Tegra 2, previously had a Optimus x2 with tegra 2 and it was nice and fast, wouldn't have concerned me either way but maybe look at some Optimus X2 benchies to give you an idea.
Before I sold the 2x to get this phone I had it clocked up to 1.4 gig without any issues but I can't for the life of me remember the quadrant score I got on it
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May I ask why you sold it to get the S2?
I think we can run the tegra games with the chainfire driver now cant we so that may no longer be an issue?
I also think that Exynos will start picking up support in some games anyway if it sells well enough.
I feel for you tegra lot
Performance Tests
You Can test it self download Quadrant standart from the android market
Exynos got = 3453 for me
Tegra got = ?
Just look at the tegra flash performance in web browsing. Exynos can take 1080 in web page. Can tegra do that?
We can tell: well it is not so bad, and lie to ourselves.
Do you think that all of the europe got exynos because it is worse? Do you think that they want so succeed more in Germany, France, UK or in Croatia? I think that they give best products to more "important", demanding, markets.
Seriously, the Tegra is not that far behind the Exynos, so as long as you get the SAmoled + screen and the full 1Gb Ram (which are the main differences with the optimus) you'll be fine.
If you see the benchmarks, the Tegra and the Exynos (optimus 2x vs SGS2) are pretty similar in performance, and both can be OCed if you need more power. The main difference in the benchmarks so far was the software (bloatware), and in your case, it'll be the same, no problems there. Simply wait for a good custom rom and enjoy!
Furthermore, you'll have better compatibility with games without hacks (God bless Chainfire!) and better texture support, so you'll be even better in some areas.
I would go ahead and grab the Tegra version. It may respond 0.025 seconds more slowly when browsing, but most of the phone functions will work just the same, you'll be able to play games of the Tegra zone without any glitch, and you'll get the phone at a much lower price and still have the warranty in case anything goes wrong!
edit: and just in case, to give some numbers:
h t t p : // w w w .inspiredgeek.com/2011/03/13/samsung-galaxy-sii-s2-exynos-4210-vs-tegra-2-which-version-will-be-better/
We all know that benchmarks don't really mean anything, the important thing is the response of the phone once you have it in your hands, but I don't think it'll be a bad phone for having Tegra, in any case.
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I do not realy know when I needed my warranty last time - I belive it was with the Motorolo T920 or whatever was it (one of the first "colourfull" phones mamy years ago...).
I'w got my SGSII just yesterday and my first impression is - my SGS has better contrast then the SGSII...
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Just look at the tegra flash performance in web browsing. Exynos can take 1080 in web page. Can tegra do that?
We can tell: well it is not so bad, and lie to ourselves.
Do you think that all of the europe got exynos because it is worse? Do you think that they want so succeed more in Germany, France, UK or in Croatia? I think that they give best products to more "important", demanding, markets.
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It's not like I'm not used to it, its always been like that, we're just a second rate country.
I mean look at game prices here, hell even hardware prices like consoles at stuff.
300$ for a PS3 in America, 600$ for a PS3 in Croatia.
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Seriously, the Tegra is not that far behind the Exynos, so as long as you get the SAmoled + screen and the full 1Gb Ram (which are the main differences with the optimus) you'll be fine.
If you see the benchmarks, the Tegra and the Exynos (optimus 2x vs SGS2) are pretty similar in performance, and both can be OCed if you need more power. The main difference in the benchmarks so far was the software (bloatware), and in your case, it'll be the same, no problems there. Simply wait for a good custom rom and enjoy!
Furthermore, you'll have better compatibility with games without hacks (God bless Chainfire!) and better texture support, so you'll be even better in some areas.
I would go ahead and grab the Tegra version. It may respond 0.025 seconds more slowly when browsing, but most of the phone functions will work just the same, you'll be able to play games of the Tegra zone without any glitch, and you'll get the phone at a much lower price and still have the warranty in case anything goes wrong!
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Well actually you see I'll get the phone at an inflated Croatian price thats higher then most EU prices, Exynos prices. You see Tegra isn't a lower cost alternative to Samsung but not the the countries it's being sold to, here it costs just as much as a Exynos one.
But I can't just buy/import a 600€ I don't have that money for god sakes thats the average monthly pay here, so the only way I can get it is via contract.
And via contract it will cost 100~200€ with all kinds of benifits that I have while in the UK you get a Samsung Galaxy S2 with Exynos for 0 pounds with a 35 pound monthly contract.
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Judging by these preliminary benchmarks (be they legit or not), it seems we got quite hammered.
http://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_4s_browser_benchmark_and_camera_sample_leaks-news-3257.php
Holy crap
I guess GB isn't optimized for Dual Core devices right, that's why there is so much difference between iPhone and I9100?
If NOT, then I'd sell my I9100.
Its based on 2.3.3 vs ios5 lol. See what it says when ics launches.
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ithehappy said:
Holy crap
I guess GB isn't optimized for Dual Core devices right, that's why there is so much difference between iPhone and I9100?
If NOT, then I'd sell my I9100.
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Android isn't optimised for anything,keep that in mind.Raw power might not be that much more than what we have.Let's wait for ICS and see for ourselves if things get better.
Me?Look at my signature.My device can surely mean serious competition to the iPhone!
No **** it got hammered. If a device was released close to 6 months after another one I would expect the newer device to be better. If it was close or worse than then SGS2 then crApple would really have dropped the ball on that one.
The OS are different...the SGS2 is more than fast enough for all application...basically there is nothing it can do but fast...4S is good but the SGS2 can do everything it does...dont see the issue...bench is bench, two totally different OS no doubt...
Of course it should beat it GSII was announced over 6 months ago. But bench's are bull**** just look at quadrant....
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Of course it should beat it GSII was announced over 6 months ago. But bench's are bull**** just look at quadrant....
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Do you remeber the hype ours truly (and even GS1) generated when it pwned I4 in these same benches? They weren't bull**** then.
Intratech said:
No **** it got hammered. If a device was released close to 6 months after another one I would expect the newer device to be better. If it was close or worse than then SGS2 then crApple would really have dropped the ball on that one.
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That's not what these marks underline, it's the way a lower specced system with a higher specced os comes on top. Remember last Tuesday? Everyone said the I4S is nowhere near SGS2. Why? Based on pure hardware. Would you expect an HTC or SE with the same specs as I4S and Android to get these marks?
I certainly hope Google optimise the &^%* out of IceCream or whatever system comes next, or this is the beginning of their downfall. They have been proved wrong with fragmentation of the OS and apps and now with their pumping of the hardware specs to compensate OS lackings.
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Do you remeber the hype ours truly (and even GS1) generated when it pwned I4 in these same benches? They weren't bull**** then.
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if you want you can go grow your epeen all you want with benchmark scores mate. have fun!
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Of course it should beat it GSII was announced over 6 months ago. But bench's are bull**** just look at quadrant....
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+1 who realistically takes benchmarks seriously, even worse anyone who does and threatens to sell their SGSII and buy an iPhone4S just because the benchmark is higher
If the SGS2 didn't get hammered, then Moore's Law not longer applies. Nothing to see here.
Notice how in the first browser benchmark the Galaxy Tab 8.1 comes rather close to the 4S and that it is also the only device running Android 3.1? There is definately a lot more room for improvement for Android... Graphics wise, not a surprising result but it looks like they've underclocked the GPU compared to the iPad 2.
the question is will our GS2 will have ICS? or just nexus prime and gs3!!!
please enlighten me if my questions above are already answered.
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the question is will our GS2 will have ICS? or just nexus prime and gs3!!!
please enlighten me if my questions above are already answered.
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ICS will be for everyone.
What happened with Honeycomb (I'm speculating) is that the Google team used one too many workaround to get it to work on the Xoom (meeting launch deadlines and all that), so it's a bit more thank wonky. So they're not releasing it.
ICS will merge the Honeycomb and the Gingerbread builds into one unified release. Probably gonna call it Android 4.0 or something.
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the question is will our GS2 will have ICS? or just nexus prime and gs3!!!
please enlighten me if my questions above are already answered.
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They would literally kill themselves if they wouldn't provide it for SGS2.
CPU-wise, SGS2 and IP4S are pretty similar. However the dual core GPU of IP4S wins by a rather significant margin.
The browser performance (SunSpider and BrowserMark) is heavily dependent on the software and browser implementation. From what I've gathered, Android GingerBread has yet to utilise dual core CPUs fully, which will be rectified in Ice Cream Sandwich. I don't know if running stock unmodded ROMs produce similar results to that of the chart, but I've managed 98k BrowserMark and 2400ms SunSpider (0.9 version) scores on CM7 using the stock Android browser. Using SunSpider 0.91 (which I suspect the IP4S is based on), I've got a nice 1750ms value. A very large disparity compared to the chart.
You guys could try running the browser benchmarks yourselves and see how your devices fare. Be sure to list your ROMs and versions!
SunSpider (Use the old 0.9 version to compare with the chart as the newer 0.91 version will produce a lower value)
BrowserMark
Here's mine as above:
ROM: CM7 Nightlies 78
Browser: Stock Android Browser
SunSpider 0.9: ~2400ms
SunSpider 0.91: ~1750ms
BrowserMark: ~98k
Lol, how it's a threat in saying I'll sell my I9100. I just said what I'd do! Jeez!
Let ICS to come first for our GSII then we should talk about what it could do. Don't forget a Benchmark result means how your hardware is performing with the software. Only stupids can ignore it. It's not Quadrant that we could ignore it as it's not customized for Dual Cores.
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Lol, how it's a threat in saying I'll sell my I9100. I just said what I'd do! Jeez!
Let ICS to come first for our GSII then we should talk about what it could do. Don't forget a Benchmark result means how your hardware is performing with the software. Only stupids can ignore it. It's not Quadrant that we could ignore it as it's not customized for Dual Cores.
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This! x100.
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=glpro21&showhide=true&certified_only=1&D1=Apple%20iPhone%204S&D2=Samsung%20GT-i9100%20Galaxy%20S2&D3=HTC%20Sensation&D4=Motorola%20Droid%203
And as the above poster said, you can't really ignore benchmarks and only refer to them only when your device has the upper hand. This is not quadrant...
It should open Google's eyes to take the necessary measures in order for it's new OS not to flop from the beginning.
...oh well.
Benchmarking and testing apples to what? lolipops or icecreams? LOL
If there is one thing to be noticed is the not the superior hardware or HOW LOUD THE FANBOYS will scream...everyone should notice how a proper coded OS behaves on decent hardware. It reflects the real Apple and how it was built by Jobs. From the secrecy to the final product. IOS5 was uber polished and hand carved to make sure it will hammer everything. And people have slept in front of an iStore and will sleep because of that. Nice design BUT exceptional dedicated OS. Apple is living off their phone line and Ipad and thay got to the top by carefully selecting hardware and amazing software for the humble user.
With Android, we have some coders building the kernel and giving it to Samsung. At Samsung they mangle with it and perhaps they say " uhm, we need more time to get it to work properly" and the design crew saves them: the thinnest device, super amoled + with macro shots, 1.2 dualcore... No add I ever saw went to say that Android is capable of taking advantage of the dual core to save battery, nope. and after 6 months and 10 million units sold, sammy can flip us the bird and move on to the next "flexible " supermega amoled. Sadly, it has came to this times when you buy an Android phone you buy the features not the OS, which should be a decisive factor.
While on Iphone/WP7 active browsing XDA forums is optional, the moment you have an Android device you're required to spend at least 4hrs weekly browsing forums trying to get your OS to work, digg up an leaked firmware that solves A but brings C issue....
I bet 100 bucks to anyone that if you can get WP7 to run on SGS2 it will shutter iPhone 4s to pieces.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/mobile...ays-and-why-they-really-might-not-be-delayed/
HTC just announced one of the most highly-talked about devices during Mobile World Congress. Usually, we won’t see new phones from that show launch for several months. It’s sort of a preview of what’s to come, if you will. Today, a second report surfaced saying that TSMC, the alleged maker of the chips used for the phone, has halted production of its chips as of mid-February. So what? That’s before the phone was even announced. We don’t even have expectations yet as to when it will hit the market. Delayed? Not at all. Maybe TSMC hit a speed bump when it came to 28nm chip demand, but without a solid date provided by HTC already it’s hard to believe that there’s any delay at all. The One X will hit the market when it’s ready, and that’s good for consumers. We shouldn’t be covering stories in a negative light, which ultimately might lead consumers to think there’s something wrong with the phone, when there fundamentally isn’t.
just a shout out for people who thought it might come out soon.
there was a rumor that T-mo would be getting a Tegra 3 One X. It will be interesting to see how that is affected by these delays.
familiarstranger said:
there was a rumor that T-mo would be getting a Tegra 3 One X. It will be interesting to see how that is affected by these delays.
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that would be awesome, not sure if it would work because the reason the tegra 3 wont be in the att model is because it doesn't support atts lte. maybe it supports tmobiles 4g.. idk, samsungs exynos didn't
stratax said:
that would be awesome, not sure if it would work because the reason the tegra 3 wont be in the att model is because it doesn't support atts lte. maybe it supports tmobiles 4g.. idk, samsungs exynos didn't
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It's likely that if T-mobile gets a version, they'll get a Tegra 3 variant, instead of an MSM 8960 one. Although, Tegras actually don't have on-chip radio hardware.
I saw that on Phone GSM the phones Theoretical release date was April. IDK if it will even effect the release date. I have seen Jet Engines get halted in production and they can still roll out about a solid 1000 aircraft on release date... As to its not coming soon they could no something that we don't it could still be on a timely release.
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It's likely that if T-mobile gets a version, they'll get a Tegra 3 variant, instead of an MSM 8960 one. Although, Tegras actually don't have on-chip radio hardware.
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what makes you say that tmo will likely get it?
if they did, I would be so happy lol
TramainM said:
I saw that on Phone GSM the phones Theoretical release date was April. IDK if it will even effect the release date. I have seen Jet Engines get halted in production and they can still roll out about a solid 1000 aircraft on release date... As to its not coming soon they could no something that we don't it could still be on a timely release.
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well actually the reason I posted this is because it made me happy if anything. this makes us have time to get better development for out amaze's without people upgrading, since it is still the best HTC hardware to this date. and it will be for even longer than I expected.
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what makes you say that tmo will likely get it?
if they did, I would be so happy lol
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Would help if you read my post a little bit more closely.
...that if T-mobile gets a version...
stratax said:
well actually the reason I posted this is because it made me happy if anything. this makes us have time to get better development for out amaze's without people upgrading, since it is still the best HTC hardware to this date. and it will be for even longer than I expected.
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My point was is who's to say that it actually isn't going to be a roll out a the dates we expected. The problem could get solved or could even be solved for all we know. HTC could have a plan B...
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Would help if you read my post a little bit more closely.
...that if T-mobile gets a version...
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oh I definitely read that, I was just wanting to know why you think its likely that tmo would get the tegra version and not the s4 version
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My point was is who's to say that it actually isn't going to be a roll out a the dates we expected. The problem could get solved or could even be solved for all we know. HTC could have a plan B...
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lol true, I honestly don't care, im probably not going to buy the s4 version or even the tegra version. the mobile market is getting huge this year and the only thing on these phones that has caught my attention is the camera, software, and the polycarbonate design. other then that I have my eyes on the asus padfone, Panasonic eluga, and whenever nokia gets further into its pureview technology on upcoming WP update. im just going to wait and see what comes out later on if Sony decides to make a devices with 2012 hardware I would be sold in a heartbeat
I'd say it'd be awfully silly of nvidia not to consider designing for DC-HSDPA. LTE is understandable. This, less so.
I'm gonna wait for the next gen quads anyways, not entirely enticed by first gen anything ( I'm a hater I know )
Though I might have to reconsider if one of these new htc series drops as stock vanilla android on T-Mobile, love me the g series phones ( LG not included )
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I'm gonna wait for the next gen quads anyways, not entirely enticed by first gen anything ( I'm a hater I know )
Though I might have to reconsider if one of these new htc series drops as stock vanilla android on T-Mobile, love me the g series phones ( LG not included )
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im not going to wait for next gen, we probably wont be seeing next gen ones in a long while anyways (unless you're talking about the exynos). im a huge fan of the tegra 3 and the technology NVidia put in it. they failed with the tegra 2 but stepped up their game with this. you can stream skyrim with NO lag at all from your computer with this chip, that's pretty good. im just not a huge fan of the devices that are coming out, im gonna wait till it hits more handsets.
Yeah last I heard this phone was only coming to AT&T in the U.S. but of course that wouldnt stop people from getting it to work on T-Mobile or any other GSM carrier.
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Yeah last I heard this phone was only coming to AT&T in the U.S. but of course that wouldnt stop people from getting it to work on T-Mobile or any other GSM carrier.
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"this phone"? I'm talking about both the one x and one s "one x/s" the s is going to come to tmo and the x is coming to att that we know of. it could change and all that good stuff
Tmobile is getting the HTC One S which has a snapdragon S4 dual core processor with sense 4.0 (ICS). Also it has a 1.5 GHz processor to show off it's speed and sense 4.0
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Tmobile is getting the HTC One S which has a snapdragon S4 dual core processor with sense 4.0 (ICS). Also it has a 1.5 GHz processor to show off it's speed and sense 4.0
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not really big on pentile amoled screens, imo its a downgrade from our screens. I would love the IPS display in the one x though
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not really big on pentile amoled screens, imo its a downgrade from our screens. I would love the IPS display in the one x though
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Thats more of a opinion though, I like super Amoleds colors better than SLCD. I wouldn't call it a downgrade though that a bit of a stretch.
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Thats more of a opinion though, I like super Amoleds colors better than SLCD. I wouldn't call it a downgrade though that a bit of a stretch.
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if you ever had the atrix.... the screen was horrid, the fact that I had the first "qHD" phone made me happy but it looked worse than my old mytouch 3g. you could actually see the pixels. I honestly didn't know one person who liked it. whenever I upgraded to the sensation the difference was night and day. I don't see why htc would pick pentile. pentile displays have less sub-pixels which makes it pointless to be even called qHD.
edit: just remembered, the only good thing about pentile is that its good on battery life. id rather have not grainy pictures though. guess that my opinion. http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/2...x2-and-its-qhd-display-pentile-at-its-finest/
I haven't really been keeping up with the new phones and the ones coming out, I had no intention of selling my amaze anytime soon.. but I found this page(http://www.digitaltrends.com/highlight/t-mobile/) and saw they are still listing our amaze - I thought for sure websites would have stopped pushing it.. then I saw that tmobile is now selling the amaze for free! Damn you tmo!
But I was wondering what people thought about other phones that are coming out? I did some light researching and the galaxy s3 euro version looks pretty nice, with the quad core - why the US versions they keep pulling that out, I have no idea.. but 2100mah battery (that can be accessed!) and external sd, the camera pics and video look good(but still not as good as ours) - overall it seems a good competitor.
But rather than do tons more research, I'm sure some people here have some phones they are salivating about, or perhaps pissed off(dual core S2 for the US, wtf?!) about.. and I figured I'd say hi here rather than just stalk the development forums like usual!
So what's good?
I'm keeping it simple, first quad core HTC phone T-Mobile gets will be mine! Keeping my amaze until then
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For all phone goodies I check gsmarena.com
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Im going to wait for the Samsung note 2 with hopes that it will be sold in T-Mobile and quad-core.
fuego77 said:
I'm keeping it simple, first quad core HTC phone T-Mobile gets will be mine! Keeping my amaze until then
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that is about how I feel, but I'm not a true htc cannot yet.. so I won't discriminate yet. My old vibrant was okay, but I felt the quality was low enough I'd be hesitant to go with Samsung again..
Everyone else is fair game, if another manufacturer makes a quality quad core, that is when I'd consider a jump from the amaze.. but I haven't been doing a lot of research into what is coming out till now.
And can ANYONE explain why these manufacturers thing quad core is good over seas, but dual core is what WE want? Or do they think we'll just buy it if they just sell it!?
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And can ANYONE explain why these manufacturers thing quad core is good over seas, but dual core is what WE want? Or do they think we'll just buy it if they just sell it!?
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That's because we US folks complain about battery life all the f**** time. Many will even sacrifice performance for battery life like underclocking the Amaze from 1.5 to 1.2Ghz. Sarcastically speaking... these folks will buy a quad-core only to find themselves again complain about battery life. What do they do? They will downgrade to dual-core to have a couple of more hours of battery. Companies are hearing these folks.
Flame on folks. Lol
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xxxman999 said:
That's because we US folks complain about battery life all the f**** time. Many will even sacrifice performance for battery life like underclocking the Amaze from 1.5 to 1.2Ghz. Sarcastically speaking... these folks will buy a quad-core only to find themselves again complain about battery life. What do they do? They will downgrade to dual-core to have a couple of more hours of battery. Companies are hearing these folks.
Flame on folks. Lol
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that is true. But with the Galaxy s3 coming out with dual core here in the U.S, main reason is quad core exynos doesn't support LTE just yet.
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wait for one of the AOSP devices coming to Tmobile. Show these manufacturers that they need to stop focusing on coding unnecessary skins and leave the Android system vanilla, and instead focus on making better hardware that utilizes the power of the processing chips more efficiently in the way that WP phones do out of the box. and better cameras, better quality materials and most importantly, maximizing battery life.
i know i'll be going for whatever Jelly Bean device i'm assuming Tmobile will get. if not i'll just purchase whatever GSM unlocked one Google Play decides to sell.
Actually the reason why they us in the US are getting dual cores and not quads is due to a chipset issue, apparently only qualcom has the rights/patents to make modems for US bands, mainly the HSPA+ and LTE band we use, so in order to use those bands on the original chipset that they use for the international version, they'll have to add an extra chipset, the qualcom chipset modem, which will give you the US radio, but will increase battery use, which basically no company wants, apple does this but it's kicking their ass as well with multiple chipsets in a device. So you gotta thank US patents/copyrights along with qualcom for us being stuck with a dual core and at the rate things are going, we'll be pretty much stuck with what qualcom puts out yearly in our devices for quite a few years to come. Though if T-Mobile refarms that 1900 band we should be able to start picking up a few international versions and using them on T-Mobile, though I doubt T-Mobile as a carrier is gonna offer them if they're not packing 42mbps, until they throw out LTE.
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Actually the reason why they us in the US are getting dual cores and not quads is due to a chipset issue, apparently only qualcom has the rights/patents to make modems for US bands, mainly the HSPA+ and LTE band we use, so in order to use those bands on the original chipset that they use for the international version, they'll have to add an extra chipset, the qualcom chipset modem, which will give you the US radio, but will increase battery use, which basically no company wants, apple does this but it's kicking their ass as well with multiple chipsets in a device. So you gotta thank US patents/copyrights along with qualcom for us being stuck with a dual core and at the rate things are going, we'll be pretty much stuck with what qualcom puts out yearly in our devices for quite a few years to come. Though if T-Mobile refarms that 1900 band we should be able to start picking up a few international versions and using them on T-Mobile, though I doubt T-Mobile as a carrier is gonna offer them if they're not packing 42mbps, until they throw out LTE.
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Right on! All issues can be overcome if they really want it badly. It's a matter of time. Business wise, time is what many companies cannot afford due to competition. Supply and demand in an overly competitive industry is at stake.
I haven't seen anything I'd like to upgrade to. The amaze is more then capable for what I need out of a phone, and will be plenty fast for the next year. Phones just aren't progressing as fast as they did even a couple years back. When I first got my hero there was a newer faster phone out almost monthly. Even with quad core, yes it may be faster on paper, 'woohoo quadrant drag racing my phone beat your phone', but when it comes to day to day use how much faster can you really go? My hero, when I first played with it I could see room for improvement, with the amaze, not so much.
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I haven't seen anything I'd like to upgrade to. The amaze is more then capable for what I need out of a phone, and will be plenty fast for the next year. Phones just aren't progressing as fast as they did even a couple years back. When I first got my hero there was a newer faster phone out almost monthly. Even with quad core, yes it may be faster on paper, 'woohoo quadrant drag racing my phone beat your phone', but when it comes to day to day use how much faster can you really go? My hero, when I first played with it I could see room for improvement, with the amaze, not so much.
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Actually, you made some really valid points - I was talking to someone yesterday about how technology hasn't really improved THAT much in the last 20+ years besides a few things, pretty much everything is the same and it is just getting smaller and faster.. and that is more so true at this point. Phones, computers, until they do something different or better, the increases in speed is becoming meaningless.
For me the selling point on the quad core is the 5th core with the lower clock speed that handles the non-heavy lifting and is supposed to increase battery. I would probably just shut off 2 of the cores and keep that benefit.. If you actually understand how multi-core cpus work then you know that they each handle a different thread(or task) - it has no benefit having more than 2 cores unless there are more than 2 things that need to be done at once(like processing video and audio at the same time).
The BIGGEST change I would like to see with all of these advances in technology - make a better battery. The military has several battery technologies that are far more efficient than what we have access to.. as soon as those things go public, THEN we might have some true awesomeness.. until then we can only make things faster and/or more efficient.
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I haven't seen anything I'd like to upgrade to. The amaze is more then capable for what I need out of a phone, and will be plenty fast for the next year. Phones just aren't progressing as fast as they did even a couple years back. When I first got my hero there was a newer faster phone out almost monthly. Even with quad core, yes it may be faster on paper, 'woohoo quadrant drag racing my phone beat your phone', but when it comes to day to day use how much faster can you really go? My hero, when I first played with it I could see room for improvement, with the amaze, not so much.
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I couldn't agree more !
So much, I will more than likely keep this phone till next contract, which is a year plus away. Does everything I need.
I probably stand a lone ground on this, but with what I said up top.....I would consider a BB10 phone as long as it is QWERTY. Really miss my physical keyboard. If they can bring some better apps to the table with a decent screen and still decent battery, I may switch. I don't care about market share ....I get what I want, not what is in....
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As soon as they finish setting up the 1900 service, I will be buying an iPhone. Hopefully the iPhone 5 came out by then.
hello guys...
a pleasant day, now i just found that this mobile down to cheapest price but good in specs...
is this good and worth to buy now? and on what update version of android does this one have?
im not sure which is good and difference between one x and one x+ its just like attractive with 32 gb internal..
pls help me decide on its usage and durabilty now a days...
big thanks guys...
-dennis...
Its a totally awesome phone. Most htc phones have something about them that is noticeably lacking... But not this model. Even today it is just a kick ass device.
But whatever you do, don't buy the attached version. There is a reason they are $100 cheaper on eBay. Basically ZERO Dev support. The international version gets all the goods. Sucks too because the att version works at full speed with any gsm carrier
Buy it dude!! HOX+ is one of the legendary devices.. It's camera is excellent.. on par with the current generation devices..
But on the other side, HOX+ will eventually lose its battery backup capacity easily.. and it becomes hot on continuos usage.. so think carefully before you buy..
'Be careful what you wish for'
Good luck:laugh:
shodenskie said:
hello guys...
a pleasant day, now i just found that this mobile down to cheapest price but good in specs...
is this good and worth to buy now? and on what update version of android does this one have?
im not sure which is good and difference between one x and one x+ its just like attractive with 32 gb internal..
pls help me decide on its usage and durabilty now a days...
big thanks guys...
-dennis...
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Dont even bother buying this device , i have the AT&T version 64 GB , camera sucks on both INT and At&t , and the device also heats up on games. I have rooted and using custom rom. Buy some new cellphones. Further it had Tegra3 for which there are no more updates available. Its processor is based on 40nm die architecture which is old. Dont buy cellphones with Nvidia Chipsets.
Optimus said:
Dont even bother buying this device , i have the AT&T version 64 GB , camera sucks on both INT and At&t , and the device also heats up on games. I have rooted and using custom rom. Buy some new cellphones. Further it had Tegra3 for which there are no more updates available. Its processor is based on 40nm die architecture which is old. Dont buy cellphones with Nvidia Chipsets.
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It's a great phone, I've always loved it. But there are better phones, many.
True about the Tegra 3, it heats up while gaming. Battery life is not that great (especially on mine, 2yo).
Camera is acceptable, but I wouldn't call it great. The screen however, is like one of best out there.
Differences between the One X and the One X+ is the internal memory and an upgraded Tegra 3 (for the +).
Additionally also Glosnass support for the +
It's old tech, wouldn't buy it right now. Buy a new generation phone with a newer processor, because the nVidia chipset in this one is outdated.
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Dont even bother buying this device , i have the AT&T version 64 GB , camera sucks on both INT and At&t , and the device also heats up on games. I have rooted and using custom rom. Buy some new cellphones. Further it had Tegra3 for which there are no more updates available. Its processor is based on 40nm die architecture which is old. Dont buy cellphones with Nvidia Chipsets.
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You must be sick to be recommending not buying Nvidia chipsets. Tegra 3 is one of the best GPUs available right now leaving alone the Tegra 4 which is only available on the Nvidia Shield and other limited number of devices.
I've used some varieties of cell phones and i've found the camera quality one of the best in this device. Running a quad core clocked at 1.7 Ghz and expecting it to not heat up? You must be bull****ting here.
Please dont defame a good phone just because you don't like it for some frickin reason.
Buddy you should update yourself since this phone is stuck at 4.2.2 while Samsung S3 is getting kitkat updates. Further huawei P7 doesnt even heat up on games like San Andreas since my friend and i compared it. One x + no doubt is a lovely phone but please in 2014 dont buy it. Further game experience is laggy. I am using it so i know better..
Goodluck.
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You must be sick to be recommending not buying Nvidia chipsets. Tegra 3 is one of the best GPUs available right now leaving alone the Tegra 4 which is only available on the Nvidia Shield and other limited number of devices.
I've used some varieties of cell phones and i've found the camera quality one of the best in this device. Running a quad core clocked at 1.7 Ghz and expecting it to not heat up? You must be bull****ting here.
Please dont defame a good phone just because you don't like it for some frickin reason.
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Dude, Dont buy.
buy Tegra only with nexus devices otherwise screw NVIDIA.
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Whatever! It's a very nice device.. Just buy it..! :laugh:
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You must be sick to be recommending not buying Nvidia chipsets. Tegra 3 is one of the best GPUs available right now leaving alone the Tegra 4 which is only available on the Nvidia Shield and other limited number of devices.
I've used some varieties of cell phones and i've found the camera quality one of the best in this device. Running a quad core clocked at 1.7 Ghz and expecting it to not heat up? You must be bull****ting here.
Please dont defame a good phone just because you don't like it for some frickin reason.
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It's actually one of the worst now. There are better devices than the X+ by miles. It's based on 2/3? Year old technology. The device is now pretty much classed low or barely middle class, due to no more driver support also we are running on an old kernel with little hope of seeing a recent one... IMO if someone has a choice of devices to get, this one wouldn't be on that list.
Not really
Lloir said:
It's actually one of the worst now. There are better devices than the X+ by miles. It's based on 2/3? Year old technology. The device is now pretty much classed low or barely middle class, due to no more driver support also we are running on an old kernel with little hope of seeing a recent one... IMO if someone has a choice of devices to get, this one wouldn't be on that list.
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You are bound to make such remarks when you compare old technologies with the new ones. If adopting your terminologies, it should imply that every device should be called as "low class" and/or "worst" at some point of time which is very inappropriate and misleading. You make it sound like upgrading a desktop computer all the time whenever a new hardware peripheral arrives.
In 2004, a set of several devices were released namely HTC Magician, I-Mate JAM, O2 XDA II-Mini and others which took about 3-5 years for them to develop. Later on, upgrading and upscaling to newer models took hardly 1-2 years. Apple's Iphone has had a similar story. In this respect, we should appreciate the older devices more in terms of advent and innovation, otherwise we woudn't have been here fiddling with our quad-cored phones( And Octas ). Personally, I-Mate JAM and Nokia Communicator 9500 are the best devices i've ever had and the older technology does not make it any different. Also, i believe that the older devices had some undefined quality which many people agree with.
In the same principles, there are some devices which some users like and prefer regardless of the fact that whether the company has stopped providing updates and/or support or not. There are too many factors to take into account other than the technology. Speaking in terms of benchmark and power, my preferred devices would easily give up before yours.
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You are bound to make such remarks when you compare old technologies with the new ones. If adopting your terminologies, it should imply that every device should be called as "low class" and/or "worst" at some point of time which is very inappropriate and misleading. You make it sound like upgrading a desktop computer all the time whenever a new hardware peripheral arrives.
In 2004, a set of several devices were released namely HTC Magician, I-Mate JAM, O2 XDA II-Mini and others which took about 3-5 years for them to develop. Later on, upgrading and upscaling to newer models took hardly 1-2 years. Apple's Iphone has had a similar story. In this respect, we should appreciate the older devices more in terms of advent and innovation, otherwise we woudn't have been here fiddling with our quad-cored phones( And Octas ). Personally, I-Mate JAM and Nokia Communicator 9500 are the best devices i've ever had and the older technology does not make it any different. Also, i believe that the older devices had some undefined quality which many people agree with.
In the same principles, there are some devices which some users like and prefer regardless of the fact that whether the company has stopped providing updates and/or support or not. There are too many factors to take into account other than the technology. Speaking in terms of benchmark and power, my preferred devices would easily give up before yours.
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Well to expand on we have both said, when a new "high end" device comes out, the older one goes to the low/mid of the high scale then just drops down.....It's how I view it anyway, like the ONE X that was king once upon a time....Now that and with the X+ it's essentially great for a backup (Also the X+ is great for backup). But this is all my opinion on it all, everyone will have different takes on it so I don't want to force my view point. In a way though we are both right.
But hey my devices are a
Nokia 3310
HTC Desire C
X+
Find 5
all have their pro's and con's though more con's for the 1st two
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Well to expand on we have both said, when a new "high end" device comes out, the older one goes to the low/mid of the high scale then just drops down.....It's how I view it anyway, like the ONE X that was king once upon a time....Now that and with the X+ it's essentially great for a backup (Also the X+ is great for backup). But this is all my opinion on it all, everyone will have different takes on it so I don't want to force my view point. In a way though we are both right.
But hey my devices are a
Nokia 3310
HTC Desire C
X+
Find 5
all have their pro's and con's though more con's for the 1st two
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That is very understandable. Different people look at different things differently. Depends on the user's perception because many would support your beliefs and many would mine as well. And we should expect that from a benchmark-hungry developer like you. Developments in technology open gates for you, so yes you should be craving for better devices now and then.
I feel ashamed, knowing the fact that i own more devices than you but am not really a developer. As they say, quantity deceives quality. BTW my old man still loves his Nokia 5190.
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That is very understandable. Different people look at different things differently. Depends on the user's perception because many would support your beliefs and many would mine as well. And we should expect that from a benchmark-hungry developer like you. Developments in technology open gates for you, so yes you should be craving for better devices now and then.
I feel ashamed, knowing the fact that i own more devices than you but am not really a developer. As they say, quantity deceives quality. BTW my old man still loves his Nokia 5190.
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I used to have a lot more, but I sold them, including my Nexus 5 my One V HTC Desire HTC Wildfire ZTE BLADE Iphone 3gs to name a few victims in my quest for not being bored
Also benchmarks? PFFFT fcuk those, the real benchmarks come from using the device properly not from some stupid app(s)
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I used to have a lot more, but I sold them, including my Nexus 5 my One V HTC Desire HTC Wildfire ZTE BLADE Iphone 3gs to name a few victims in my quest for not being bored
Also benchmarks? PFFFT fcuk those, the real benchmarks come from using the device properly not from some stupid app(s)
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Is it just me or do you really sound like a kid?
Haha, yes i mean "Power-hungry" by "benchmark" because that is exactly what keeps some people going!
Electronic hobbyists like me have entirely different tastes.
BTW, i just flashed your latest nightly yesternight and need to take my precious ass over that CM11 thread there to discuss some issues.
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Is it just me or do you really sound like a kid?
Haha, yes i mean "Power-hungry" by "benchmark" because that is exactly what keeps some people going!
Electronic hobbyists like me have entirely different tastes.
BTW, i just flashed your latest nightly yesternight and need to take my precious ass over that CM11 thread there to discuss some issues.
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I'm a kid at heart and always will be, can't be doing with the whole growing up thing
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I'm a kid at heart and always will be, can't be doing with the whole growing up thing
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So, how old are you and what are you doing professionally? Should never judge a book by it's cover - for both of us.
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So, how old are you and what are you doing professionally? Should never judge a book by it's cover - for both of us.
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28 and soon to be a Network/Computer security person.
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28 and soon to be a Network/Computer security person.
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That is great. :good:
Just want you to know something. Don't always be so full of yourself and be nice to those who are nice to you.