im thinking about getting another tablet when i want more size than out nook. is it safe to get a refurbished tablet? can enough things go wrong with a tablet that new is the only way to go. thanks
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im thinking about getting another tablet when i want more size than out nook. is it safe to get a refurbished tablet? can enough things go wrong with a tablet that new is the only way to go. thanks
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From what I have been told a refurbished item could be one that is new, but overstock factory item. Or it could be a repaired item. My concern is you never know what you are getting. I found a refurbished Lenova 10.1 tablet at frys for 249. when new it was close to 500. I was leary, but got it anyway. Installed new rom amd its been great. I have also got a refurbished item and it was junk. I just always get a warranty if possible. Typically though they won't sell refurbished with warranty though. In the end its blind luck. Good luck. what are you looking to get?
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Used wifi Xoom is my recommendation. My Xoom is a year old with EOS 2.0.0 running on it (ICS based rom) and its fantastic. Its a solid tablet with probably the most development (as its a GED).
Asus Transformer (the original one) is a decent buy as well, especially if you want the dock. The Acer Iconia A500 isn't bad but I really don't like the form factor on it.
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From what I have been told a refurbished item could be one that is new, but overstock factory item. Or it could be a repaired item. My concern is you never know what you are getting. I found a refurbished Lenova 10.1 tablet at frys for 249. when new it was close to 500. I was leary, but got it anyway. Installed new rom amd its been great. I have also got a refurbished item and it was junk. I just always get a warranty if possible. Typically though they won't sell refurbished with warranty though. In the end its blind luck. Good luck. what are you looking to get?
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i was looking at this one
Toshiba Thrive 10" 16GB tablet, model AT105-T1016
Toshiba Thrive is cool, but don't expect ICS until the end of June or the beginning of July.
I have 5 tablets, 1 has Honeycomb. Well, I haven't upgraded it to ICS because I didn't even know it had an update
I recommend you the Archos 101 Turbo. My A101 runs stock 4.0 and it's indeed fast in my opinion. It's already at the top of the food chain with Android 4.0 stock, and ROM development will likely start when Jelly Bean (Android 5.0) is released. I have the 250GB version, but you can get something smaller.
I also recommend the Galaxy Tab 2, if you really want Bluetooth.
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Toshiba Thrive is cool, but don't expect ICS until the end of June or the beginning of July.
I have 5 tablets, 1 has Honeycomb. Well, I haven't upgraded it to ICS because I didn't even know it had an update
I recommend you the Archos 101 Turbo. My A101 runs stock 4.0 and it's indeed fast in my opinion. It's already at the top of the food chain with Android 4.0 stock, and ROM development will likely start when Jelly Bean (Android 5.0) is released. I have the 250GB version, but you can get something smaller.
I also recommend the Galaxy Tab 2, if you really want Bluetooth.
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the thrive is only 239 refurbihed. thats what is enticing me. i honestly dont need a 10 inch tablet but i thought at that price i could get it. can gb tablets like our nook or the thrive ever be upgradded to ics if a cook builds a rom or does it have to be official on the tablet first? i knlw that wouldn't work for this one since were blockig the ota
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Toshiba Thrive is cool, but don't expect ICS until the end of June or the beginning of July.
I have 5 tablets, 1 has Honeycomb. Well, I haven't upgraded it to ICS because I didn't even know it had an update
I recommend you the Archos 101 Turbo. My A101 runs stock 4.0 and it's indeed fast in my opinion. It's already at the top of the food chain with Android 4.0 stock, and ROM development will likely start when Jelly Bean (Android 5.0) is released. I have the 250GB version, but you can get something smaller.
I also recommend the Galaxy Tab 2, if you really want Bluetooth.
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The next android version is not 5.0.
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The next android version is not 5.0.
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That's right, it should be 4.1 and will probably be unveiled in a week or so during Google I/O. Along with the Nexus Tablet.
Well, that is true, but 4.1 might just be a minor upgrade like Eclair (2.1) was to Pre-Eclair (2.0)
Yeah, that's what I figure, too. Also, not trying to hijack this thread or anything, but I'm torn between getting an Eee Pad SL101 or waiting for the MeMO 370T.
A device with model name ME370T passed through the FCC a few weeks ago and ASUS also let it be known that their Nexus Tablet would be shown at Google I/O. I also spoke to an ASUS customer service rep and she claimed Asus would be releasing BOTH the MeMO and the Nexus Tablet this summer, but I can't honestly put too much faith in a customer service representative. I guess I'll just have to wait for more information. I don't know why they're being so shady about it all though.
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Well, that is true, but 4.1 might just be a minor upgrade like Eclair (2.1) was to Pre-Eclair (2.0)
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Or Froyo (2.2) to Gingerbread (2.3), which I wouldn't really say was a minor upgrade. With that said, I don't think there will be any huge leaps and bounds between ICS and the upcoming version, but I'm hoping there will be a single distinguishing feature.
As for the nexus tablet, if it has an sdcard slot + decent form factor (I love the nook's form factor, its not bland like the playbook or fire) then I'll probably sell my nook and grab one.
Don't know if I'll sell the Nook but can't resist the Nexus 7 when it comes out. I just have to get it.
Also thinking of the HP Touch off ebay mainly because of the low cost and they have CM9 nightly.
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Is $250 (CAD) a good deal for this tablet?
I have a Moto Atrix as my smartphone, rooted.
I am interested in tablet for watching videos at home and reading pdfs and ebooks and suchm, as well as playing games.
I believe it is already running g-tab-comb but I would want to update it with something more recent.
I have the opporunity to get this or a dell streak 7 (sealed) for $250.
Is there still good dev support for this tablet? How does the future of it look
i had the gtablet, but sold it. Now with the Android market not showing the G tab on the website, I am sure glad that I sold the G tablet. Get the tablet that has paid the license to Google and has the real market (imho), in otherwords not the Gtablet.
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Does that mean I wouldn't be able to access any apps from the market?
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Does that mean I wouldn't be able to access any apps from the market?
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Maybe....for now. But it appears the GTab is being fazed out of Google Market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327249
The handwriting seems to be on the wall for the GTab.....sadly
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Does that mean I wouldn't be able to access any apps from the market?
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You'd still be able to access the market via the app on the Gtablet itself. you just wouldn't be able to remotely install apps onto your tablet via the market website on a computer.
I use a GTablet (with FlashBack 10.0) I access the Market several times a day. I am able to download new apps, update older apps. No-- my device is not listed, but nevertheless I am able to use the Market.
I had been using an older version of the Market App, and with that I could not get new apps. I could update older apps just fine, but it would NOT download a new app: NO DEVICE. With the new Market App, I have no problems.
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I use a GTablet (with FlashBack 10.0) I access the Market several times a day. I am able to download new apps, update older apps. No-- my device is not listed, but nevertheless I am able to use the Market.
I had been using an older version of the Market App, and with that I could not get new apps. I could update older apps just fine, but it would NOT download a new app: NO DEVICE. With the new Market App, I have no problems.
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What version of the Market? Are you able to download to your Gtab from market.android.com ? If so, can u post the apk. The guy who I sold my Gtab to, would like that.
Thanks
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Is $250 (CAD) a good deal for this tablet?
I have a Moto Atrix as my smartphone, rooted.
I am interested in tablet for watching videos at home and reading pdfs and ebooks and suchm, as well as playing games.
I believe it is already running g-tab-comb but I would want to update it with something more recent.
I have the opporunity to get this or a dell streak 7 (sealed) for $250.
Is there still good dev support for this tablet? How does the future of it look
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I sold mine a while back also. I would put that $250.00 towards something that might have a chance at some ICS love.
The Gtab's screen is great for video, but an IPS screen on a higher end tablet is a must for extended ebook reading. Also the market issue is very minor in my opinion.
I picked mine up less than a week ago, put FB 10.0 on it and I am already selling it and moving to a Transformer or Iconia. The display has really bad viewing angles, other than that it isn't too shabby.
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Groupon has the Toshiba Thrive for 299 today. A better tablet all around
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Groupon has the Toshiba Thrive for $299 today. A better tablet all around
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I saw that today as well. (well my wife did). Still only $100 off a 16GB version, I told her not that great of a deal.
To the OP, my advise is not spend one dime with Viewsonic. They abandoned this product 3 months after it's release. Viewsonic has been nothing short of horrible regarding the GTab and it's customers that spent the $300-$400 last winter. I have a perfect one for $200 if you really want one, $225 with dock. It is rooted and running TNT lite 4.4.
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I saw that today as well. (well my wife did). Still only $100 off a 16GB version, I told her not that great of a deal.
To the OP, my advise is not spend one dime with Viewsonic. They abandoned this product 3 months after it's release. Viewsonic has been nothing short of horrible regarding the GTab and it's customers that spent the $300-$400 last winter. I have a perfect one for $200 if you really want one, $225 with dock. It is rooted and running TNT lite 4.4.
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I'm sure the shipping would be a lot of $ to Canada?
I can also get a 32gb Touchpad.. with Android. How about that
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I'm sure the shipping would be a lot of $ to Canada?
I can also get a 32gb Touchpad.. with Android. How about that
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HP Touchpad with Android? I didn't know that could be done. I know they were selling for $99 when they went belly-up. I would say go for it. Shipping would only be about $25 if you really want the GTab. I am also selling my Asus TF101 32GB getting ready for the TF201 32GB but that will be twice as much with keyboard dock.
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HP Touchpad with Android? I didn't know that could be done. I know they were selling for $99 when they went belly-up. I would say go for it. Shipping would only be about $25 if you really want the GTab. I am also selling my Asus TF101 32GB getting ready for the TF201 32GB but that will be twice as much with keyboard dock.
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Yup Cyanogen got CM7 running on it
Decisions, decisions..
Don't take it. Bunch of people complaints about HP touchpad with android on it.I pay my viewsonic $250 (4 days ago) and my friend pay $150 for his HP touchpad - I still like my deal and product more (didn't like stock tom). I can access market using Vegan rom and I can even backup apps on my phone and transfer them to g-tab.
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I'm sure the shipping would be a lot of $ to Canada?
I can also get a 32gb Touchpad.. with Android. How about that
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I all you want is a decent 10" tablet running Gingerbread or Honeycomb at a low cost then gtab is one to consider. If you want ICS then you will have to get the lastest tablet (not yet available) with a killer cpu and lots of ram.
So your choices are
1. Low price 10" or 7" (nook color II or Amazon Fire)
2. Medium price 10" like a Acer Iconia, Toshiba or Asus Transformer
3. High price 10" currently being developed for the ICS (New tranformer quadcore etc)
Good luck and have fun.
Woot.com has the Motorola Xoom 32Gig Wifi for $329 today....
And Motorola has stated that the Xoom will get ICS early 2012.
Advantages over Gtablet..
32gig vs. 16gig storage
1280x800 vs. 1024x600 resolution
1 gig vs. 512 meg ram
GPS, Barometer, front and rear cameras
Better viewing angles
Official Google support/Motorola support
Android OS 3.2.1 with stated upgrade to Android OS 4.0
FYI...I have two Gtablets and an Xoom. I'd take the Xoom every day over the Gtablet.
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HP Touchpad with Android? I didn't know that could be done. I know they were selling for $99 when they went belly-up. I would say go for it. Shipping would only be about $25 if you really want the GTab. I am also selling my Asus TF101 32GB getting ready for the TF201 32GB but that will be twice as much with keyboard dock.
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I bought a Gtab from a seller in the US. shipping was about $23 BUT beware as the buyer in Canada will get hit with an extra $70 in duty fees for "importing" the tablet.
Hi,
I know the new device is still very new. Although, I'm disappointed with lack of rooting now, I'm still in favor of this over Kindle Fire for a tablet in this price range. Another disappointment is no doubt the internal storage lock, forcing users to sideload only 1GB without additional SD card. Here's a few questions for those of you that have the device and been playing with it.
1) has anyone sideload VTC's stream app? I like to be able to stream video and music to tablet
2) where is this rumor PagePerfect [improved stock] pdf reader? I was at the store briefly on Thur and I can't find this app installed??? is this a vaporware BN hasn't push out? I prefer reading pdf over epub, i can't stand reflowable text that kills design.
3) anyone think we can hope NT can run latest Android v4, if rooted [a big if right now]?
Wait for NookTab to get root then buy. Nook Color took a while before magic happen. NookTab just came out today. Give it a couple weeks top. There are plenty of smart people here.
succulent said:
Wait for NookTab to get root then buy. Nook Color took a while before magic happen. NookTab just came out today. Give it a couple weeks top. There are plenty of smart people here.
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I second this. As is it's a great tablet, but wait a few weeks for root. I think it'll happen before that though. No evidence to back this up. Just opinion.
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I returned mine and picked up a tab 7.0 plus. I have another nook tablet in the house so I will check in to see how development is going, but if you can swing it, the Samsung is worth the extra cost IMO
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I returned mine and picked up a tab 7.0 plus. I have another nook tablet in the house so I will check in to see how development is going, but if you can swing it, the Samsung is worth the extra cost IMO
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I was planing to return my NT too. I just ordered the tab 7 plus but my daughter thinks she will keep the Nook. I suggested that she look at the old tab 7 as it is a full hardware featured and rooted tab for under 300.
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I am literally sitting at my computer, trying to decide whether to take back my NT and maybe get a Tab 7, or even hold on to my DS7 until a good AND affordable 7" tablet comes out. But the NT is sitting on the table, looking at me, tempting me to open it.
Here's what I'm thinking...
1. The Tab 7 is still too expensive at this point. I've seen some online for around $300 but most are still in the $400 range. Yes, I could get it cheaper by getting it from one of the phone carriers but I don't like being locked into a 2 yr. plan, especially the way tech is changing so fast. Since I don't use stuff like cameras and GPS on my current DS7, I'm not sure the $150 difference is worth it.
2. I'm thinking about just staying with my current DS7 but there is no comparison between screens and battery life with the NT, which I found out are major considerations when it comes to tablets. The NT is (somewhat) lacking in apps compared to my full-blown DS7 tablet, but it's all about the important hardware, in my case, screen and battery life.
3. I've been playing with my wife's NT this weekend and once I found I was able to sideload apks from various Android sites, I've got hers pretty much set up the way she likes. One of the biggest problems with the NT is the lack of B&N apps. With Go Launcher and downloading apps from Onlyandroid.com, which has pretty much everything I've previously downloaded from Android Market, it's as useful as the DS7. All this and it's only been out a few days so you can only imagine what the techies are going to be able to do with the NT in a few months.
I took the bait and bought a NT earlier. I started to sideload some apps and to my surprise, I'm liking it. The only annoyance is the default interface, and once this is rooted [keeping fingers crossed], the sky is the limit I think.
IMHO, the hardware upgrade from NC makes NT much more usable.
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I returned mine and picked up a tab 7.0 plus. I have another nook tablet in the house so I will check in to see how development is going, but if you can swing it, the Samsung is worth the extra cost IMO
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It's $150 more and at a point where quad core, higher res 7-8" tabs are just around the corner. If I'm going to spend $400, I'd rather wait 2 months for a killer one at the start of a new generation.
If the Nook Tablet gets root and a stable ICS ROM, then it's a warranted, no question impluse buy. With this HW, it'd run ICS perfectly and the lack of physical buttons would work perfectly.
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It's $150 more and at a point where quad core, higher res 7-8" tabs are just around the corner. If I'm going to spend $400, I'd rather wait 2 months for a killer one at the start of a new generation.
If the Nook Tablet gets root and a stable ICS ROM, then it's a warranted, no question impluse buy. With this HW, it'd run ICS perfectly and the lack of physical buttons would work perfectly.
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True quad cores are right around the corner, but I bet you it will be at least 6-8 months before a 7" quad-core is even ANNOUNCED, yet alone released. Most people buying the NT want a smaller device anyways, so if they really want a fully functional 7" the galaxy tab is probably the best out there, and will be for a while (at least until the 7.7)
FYI, best buy is allowing returns until January 24th because of the holidays, so you can try a tab 7 plus for two months, and if you like it keep it, or sell it if something better comes out (out the NT gets rooted)
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I returned mine and picked up a tab 7.0 plus. I have another nook tablet in the house so I will check in to see how development is going, but if you can swing it, the Samsung is worth the extra cost IMO
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That's what I plan to do. Wonder why there is no Galaxy Tab 7+ forums yet here.
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FYI, best buy is allowing returns until January 24th because of the holidays, so you can try a tab 7 plus for two months, and if you like it keep it, or sell it if something better comes out (out the NT gets rooted)
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And another thing worth noting, because of the extended return policy, consider it a price guarantee too. If the Tab 7+ drops in price in the next 2 months, just go complain and I'm sure BB will give you the difference, or you could just return it and rebuy it.
I decided to keep iti
lanceot said:
I took the bait and bought a NT earlier. I started to sideload some apps and to my surprise, I'm liking it. The only annoyance is the default interface, and once this is rooted [keeping fingers crossed], the sky is the limit I think.
IMHO, the hardware upgrade from NC makes NT much more usable.
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I 100% agree. I tried the NC and didn't like it because it was too slow and the speaker was horrible. Like you, the more I'm using it, the more I'm liking it.
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True quad cores are right around the corner, but I bet you it will be at least 6-8 months before a 7" quad-core is even ANNOUNCED, yet alone released. Most people buying the NT want a smaller device anyways, so if they really want a fully functional 7" the galaxy tab is probably the best out there, and will be for a while (at least until the 7.7)
FYI, best buy is allowing returns until January 24th because of the holidays, so you can try a tab 7 plus for two months, and if you like it keep it, or sell it if something better comes out (out the NT gets rooted)
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Unfortunately quad cores only has marketing valie at the moment. most apps are still single threaded and taking advantage of multiple cores is not an easy programming task
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You didn't say what bothered you about the Kindle Fire, or that's what I'd suggest. If you spend more then you're getting into devices that were intended to be tablets in the first place, and the whole set of arguments changes.
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True quad cores are right around the corner, but I bet you it will be at least 6-8 months before a 7" quad-core is even ANNOUNCED, yet alone released. Most people buying the NT want a smaller device anyways, so if they really want a fully functional 7" the galaxy tab is probably the best out there, and will be for a while (at least until the 7.7)
FYI, best buy is allowing returns until January 24th because of the holidays, so you can try a tab 7 plus for two months, and if you like it keep it, or sell it if something better comes out (out the NT gets rooted)
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a Tegra 3 7" tablet leaked or announced between now and CES.
BTW, tablets are ineligible for that holiday return policy.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a Tegra 3 7" tablet leaked or announced between now and CES.
BTW, tablets are ineligible for that holiday return policy.
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That's not what the sales person told me when I bought my tab
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BTW, tablets are ineligible for that holiday return policy.
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This is untrue.
For holiday 2010, BestBuy's Holiday Return Policy didn't cover computers and tablets.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/2008-Gi...ns/pcmcat166500050003.c?id=pcmcat166500050003
For holiday 2011, no exception is mentioned.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Misc/null/pcmcat257800050001.c?id=pcmcat257800050001
The main stipulation is that it has to be a "gift purchase," so probably would be wise to not mention you've been using it for 2 months and got tired of it.
As I didn't root before 1.4.1 and still don't want to root I'm thinking of returning my NT. Anyone have any thoughts on some of the other 7" tabs out there as a replacement?
Acer a100.
Battery life is not as good, but it's a solid tablet for the same money
Maybe the Archos 70B Internet Tablet might interest you. I just saw an article saying it should be coming out soon. I'd post a link but my NT won't let me copy & paste. I will be seriously considering returning my NT before January 31 if things still look as they do now.
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Archos 70b to come out in a few weeks. Good preliminary reviews. Google it.
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options are out there
Yeah, I've looked at the Acer & the Lenovo ideapad a1. The archos is one that I hadn't checked out, though. Man, those first few weeks with my NT before 1.4.1 really spoiled me. I feel like my NT is broken now, and I really like the device.
Acer Iconia A100 4 hours of battery like 70 bucks more
Samsung Galaxy 10 hours 16 gb 150 bucks more
Archos 70B http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/20/archos-launches-70b-honeycomb-tablet-expected-to-ship-next-mont/ has 512 ram and a pro: HDMI for $199
I'm looking at refurbished HTC Evo View's in the area of $250-$280 when they pop up.
Also, Galaxy Tab 7 Plus that can be had for $370 brand new.
Then I missed this GREAT deal today because I was working and not at my computer... Toshiba Thrive 32gb (refurb) for.... $299 arghhhh
http://1saleaday.com/?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1SaleADay&utm_content=1SALE+12-3-11
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As I didn't root before 1.4.1 and still don't want to root I'm thinking of returning my NT. Anyone have any thoughts on some of the other 7" tabs out there as a replacement?
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I'm thinking about to replace the Tablet with a Color. It's cheaper, $199 new and 149 pre-owned. Both are with 1 year warranty. Since the Color can be dual-booted, so I don't have to root it.
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I'm looking at refurbished HTC Evo View's in the area of $250-$280 when they pop up.
Also, Galaxy Tab 7 Plus that can be had for $370 brand new.
Then I missed this GREAT deal today because I was working and not at my computer... Toshiba Thrive 32gb (refurb) for.... $299 arghhhh
http://1saleaday.com/?utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1SaleADay&utm_content=1SALE+12-3-11
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wow thanks for share that link have you buy from there before? i'll definitely keep an eye on it, thanks.
Htc Evo View/flyer is awful. Really slow once you start loading things onto it. Look at the new Archos tablet or perhaps an a100. Galaxy tabs are nice, but no expandable memory.
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Htc Evo View/flyer is awful. Really slow once you start loading things onto it. Look at the new Archos tablet or perhaps an a100. Galaxy tabs are nice, but no expandable memory.
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Couldn't disagree with you anymore. EVO View 4G is a kick as tab. Just got hc also.
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Utrru said:
Htc Evo View/flyer is awful. Really slow once you start loading things onto it. Look at the new Archos tablet or perhaps an a100. Galaxy tabs are nice, but no expandable memory.
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Galaxy Tab 7 Plus does have SD card slot.
Uncular1 said:
As I didn't root before 1.4.1 and still don't want to root I'm thinking of returning my NT. Anyone have any thoughts on some of the other 7" tabs out there as a replacement?
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I was in the same boat as you. I had never rooted a device, and I was worried about what rooting entailed in relation to my warranty.
However, I decided to take the plunge anyway. I rooted my NT three days ago, following Indirect's method, and I can say that I am VERY happy with my decision.
Here are some reasons for my joy:
--->I can still access the B&N store, content, and in-store reading abilities (I just tested this tonight).
--->I can load whatever I want onto my device because I have access to root privileges and numerous app stores (Android Market, Amazon, B&N (although who would ever use this horrid marketplace)
--->I have a Swype keyboard on my tablet! (I use this on my phone and I absolutely love it on my NT)
What about the warranty you ask? With the availability of easy unrooting procedures and no instances of bricking a NT, I have confidence that I can always unroot my device if I find the need to use my warranty. Although, the only bad situation that I can imagine is if I somehow damage the device to the point where I cannot boot it up to undo the root (like if I dropped it in a lake or bathtub). Despite those worst case scenarios, I am totally willing to take the risk.
Someone has mentioned elsewhere that the NT is cheaper than other comparable tablets because B&N is counting on controlling the content and user experience to make a profit. By getting around their control by rooting, we (the consumer) are able to have a high quality tablet and the freedom that B&N was counting on restricting for their benefit.
Having said all of this, if you are unable/unwilling/too concerned to root your NT, then return the bad boy.
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Couldn't disagree with you anymore. EVO View 4G is a kick as tab. Just got hc also.
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I 100% agree that the HTC Flyer/View is an amazing tablet. I owned the nook tablet for about 2 weeks until the update came out. Once I realized that B&N is going to continue to actively try and stop hacking I decided it wasn't worth the uphill battle for the life of the NT. I found a brand new Best Buy HTC Flyer on Craigslist for $280, about the same price as the NT after tax.
The HTC Flyer IMO is much snappier than the NT and I like the look and feel of it better than NT. I didn't think I would like the HTC Flyer from reviews, pics, and videos, but in person it is awesome. I really do think it is faster than the NT in general purposes. Battery life and screen are equivalent to NT. Basically, the NT is a little lighter and a little thinner but I think the build quality is better on the Flyer. The dual-core 1.0 GHz vs single-core 1.5 GHz is really a toss up, especially since the NT isn't running HC or ICS yet. HTC just released an official HC update. Also it has a fully active digitizer stylus that destroys the capacitive pens on any other tablet.
Alas, if the NT had the same hacking abilities as the NC, I would have kept it. I really like the NT and I am hoping this community outsmarts B&N. So with that, the HTC Flyer is a solid alternative if you want something similar with full android and no need for rooting.
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As I didn't root before 1.4.1 and still don't want to root I'm thinking of returning my NT. Anyone have any thoughts on some of the other 7" tabs out there as a replacement?
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Just out of curiosity, what did 1.4.1 change that was bad enough to make you want to return it? I have no idea because I rooted mine right after the first boot and removed all the B&N stuff so that it's just a regular android tablet.
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Galaxy Tab 7 Plus does have SD card slot.
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Youre right. I forgot about the 7 inch plus. My store only carries the 8.9 and 10.1. XD
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Just out of curiosity, what did 1.4.1 change that was bad enough to make you want to return it? I have no idea because I rooted mine right after the first boot and removed all the B&N stuff so that it's just a regular android tablet.
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Breaks root, loses ability to sideload apps.
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Breaks root, loses ability to sideload apps.
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Then go back to 1.4.0 and block updates.
I would just like to comment on Archos. I do not own a recent Archos device, but had one of their older media players. The firmware was garbage, the hardware sucked, and the support was non-existent. I bought it on sale from a different retailer, so unfortunately I was unable to return the device. It did have the factory warranty, however. I sent it back to get it fixed three times when the internal hard drive failed. Each time it took a month to get it back, and it broke again within four weeks. The fourth time it died, I gave up and threw the thing away. Horrible waste of money. I will never buy another Archos product again.
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I would just like to comment on Archos. I do not own a recent Archos device, but had one of their older media players. The firmware was garbage, the hardware sucked, and the support was non-existent. I bought it on sale from a different retailer, so unfortunately I was unable to return the device. It did have the factory warranty, however. I sent it back to get it fixed three times when the internal hard drive failed. Each time it took a month to get it back, and it broke again within four weeks. The fourth time it died, I gave up and threw the thing away. Horrible waste of money. I will never buy another Archos product again.
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That's a shame. I bought an Archos 20gb Jukebox Recorder back in 2002. I replaced the firmware with Rockbox opensource firmware, upgraded the batteries over time, and eventually put a larger HDD in it. It still runs and I use it as an external harddrive. I'd still be using it as my music player except I replaced it with a video iPod with Rockbox software a little while back.
Well for me the Nexus 7 is just too small on the storage and lack of connectivity through HDMI and micro SD so I am probably gonna stick with the Prime which has served me pretty well. Since ASUS made the Nexus 7, is it likely we will see them release JB on the rest of their android lineup?
As the hardware seems to be fairly identical this should be no problem...
I believe it has a mhl port though so there is hdmi
Well I guess, I really just wish though it had a micro SD card and some more storage.
I'm pretty sure it will. I mean... come on, it debuted just six months ago in the US, even later in Europe... And no updates already? It would be crazy.
Since the Nexus 7 is also a Tegra 3 and they had the chance to work with JellyBean for a while now I would expect an update not to far away.
I'm just curious if the UI of the Nexus 7 is a new tablet UI of JB or they just did it to push the Store a bit more into the front on the Nexus 7.
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Since the Nexus 7 is also a Tegra 3 and they had the chance to work with JellyBean for a while now I would expect an update not to far away.
I'm just curious if the UI of the Nexus 7 is a new tablet UI of JB or they just did it to push the Store a bit more into the front on the Nexus 7.
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Yes, it seems a little interesting that they used the phone sort of Android 4 for the 7" tablet. Most 7" tablets I know of use the tablet version of the OS.
I think ASUS will not make jellybean for prime! Way?? Here is 2 new tablets TF300 and TF700..marketing gimmick it is same with Tegra 3 and overclocking prime 1.3GHz, infinity 1.6Ghz
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I think ASUS will not make jellybean for prime! Way?? Here is 2 new tablets TF300 and TF700..marketing gimmick it is same with Tegra 3 and overclocking prime 1.3GHz, infinity 1.6Ghz
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Of course they will. The TF101 got ICS after... a year or so?
They would be CRAZY to dump the 201.
I think they will
I think they will release Jellybean for the Prime and the reason is simple, they seem to not want to dedicate too much time to fix the issues on Prime with ICS, and maybe the experience is smoother with Jellybean, and since hey are already developping for Jellybean it will be more cost effective to work on one OS since the Nexus have about the same hardware as Prime.
i think they will, but im really doubting if asus is ever gonna be able to fix issues with prime
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I think they will release Jellybean for the Prime and the reason is simple, they seem to not want to dedicate too much time to fix the issues on Prime with ICS, and maybe the experience is smoother with Jellybean, and since hey are already developping for Jellybean it will be more cost effective to work on one OS since the Nexus have about the same hardware as Prime.
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Thought about the same. And I bet we are going to get JB before all other Android devices besides Nexus series.
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The Prime will get JB at some point. The real question is whether it will be perform any better than the Prime performs w/ ICS. I doubt it, considering how incompetent Asus has proved to be.
the ICS issues are fixed with androwook
Simple answer - hell yes
Even if not from Asus, which I bet they will, from the dev community for sure. No doubt in my mind.
If I were Asus, I would just bail out on any more ICS efforts... what's the point now that JB is available throw your resources at that and forget ICS for the TF201.
Yes it will come to prime and probably to tf101 too.
Asus actually mentioned this some months ago , they want to be the first again. unfortunally i cant remember where.
Since we have almost the same hardware it will be piece of cake for asus to get it to the prime.
Hopefully a better base!
Didn't had much problems with my prime so far.
We also shouldn't forget that the Google Staff is using the Prime as well for their weekly App & Game review shows. As far as I've read the Nexus 7 doesn't support MHL adapter for HDMI out so they might stay with the Prime for their show and I doubt they want so use old ICS
So far I'm happy with the updates ASUS is giving us. Sure, I had the screen flickering issue for a long time and it took them a while, but at least they give us updates and try to fix the problems which not many companies in the current tablet market do.
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The Prime will get JB at some point. The real question is whether it will be perform any better than the Prime performs w/ ICS. I doubt it, considering how incompetent Asus has proved to be.
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Well, if the current problems are related to software, as in ASUS can't get ICS to work properly on the hardware (T3 SoC), there is now a very good working copy of JB on the same hardware.
One would think it would be far easier for ASUS to take that software, add some ASUS stuff but leave the inner workings the same (and working properly).
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i think they will, but im really doubting if asus is ever gonna be able to fix issues with prime
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Yeah.. It's weird because even that i have a few issues with my Prime i will still say it's the best product i ever touched!
Biggest issue is that sometimes my keyboard dock wont work.. I have to use the tablet without the dock for like 5-10 min. and then connect it to the dock again to get it working
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I think they will release Jellybean for the Prime and the reason is simple, they seem to not want to dedicate too much time to fix the issues on Prime with ICS, and maybe the experience is smoother with Jellybean, and since hey are already developping for Jellybean it will be more cost effective to work on one OS since the Nexus have about the same hardware as Prime.
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Saying that the Nexus 7 has about the same hardware is not that true, the processor, for example, is not the same : our prime has a T30 the nexus a T30L with lower CPU and GPU clock and problably a slower RAM (DDR2) ... http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review
Whatever the hardware are similar, the prime is not just a 10 inch Nexus 7 : there is a dock, microSD/SD and USB port and probably more we don't know ....
Since our Tegra 3 is better than the nexus 7 one, I think JellyBean will be amazing in our Prime :laugh:
Well, I may have hit the jackpot last night. My wife said she would like to have a tablet for doing simple stuff like checking her email and lite web surfing without having to haul out her laptop. She then suggests that she really likes my Prime and maybe she could use that and I could get a new one
...Ding, ding, ding, ding....jackpot! Of course I'm having a charging issue with it at the moment so all of this depends on making that work...but thats a separate issue.
The thing is now I have to decide what to get for me to replace the prime and I actually really like my prime. What I love about the prime largely comes from the keyboard dock. Besides the physical keyboard which is a must for me:
1. Extra battery in the dock
2. SD card slot in the dock.
3. USB port in the dock. I use all kinds of things here. USB flash drives, USB wired ethernet, external hard drives, USB input devices, and even multiple devices at the same time with a USB mini hub.
By Prime is unlocked and running Hairy Bean 2.3.1. So I want somthing new that gives me all that functionality I get from the ASUS keyboard dock, is running at least Android 4.2 out of the box, and has the potential to root, unlock and custom ROM later (probably after the warranty expires).
Ideas?
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Well, I may have hit the jackpot last night. My wife said she would like to have a tablet for doing simple stuff like checking her email and lite web surfing without having to haul out her laptop. She then suggests that she really likes my Prime and maybe she could use that and I could get a new one
...Ding, ding, ding, ding....jackpot! Of course I'm having a charging issue with it at the moment so all of this depends on making that work...but thats a separate issue.
The thing is now I have to decide what to get for me to replace the prime and I actually really like my prime. What I love about the prime largely comes from the keyboard dock. Besides the physical keyboard which is a must for me:
1. Extra battery in the dock
2. SD card slot in the dock.
3. USB port in the dock. I use all kinds of things here. USB flash drives, USB wired ethernet, external hard drives, USB input devices, and even multiple devices at the same time with a USB mini hub.
By Prime is unlocked and running Hairy Bean 2.3.1. So I want somthing new that gives me all that functionality I get from the ASUS keyboard dock, is running at least Android 4.2 out of the box, and has the potential to root, unlock and custom ROM later (probably after the warranty expires).
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I wouldn't touch Asus tablets again after the mess they made of the Prime.
I know you want a dock so this doesn't really apply but if I was buying a new tablet any time soon I would probably get the new Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition. The specs look great and I like the s-pen and the multitasking.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/2014galaxynote10.1/
I suggest Nexus 10, but it has no dock as far as i know.
the only tablets with propitiatory docks are:
1. asus transformer series
2. iPad (BT though)
3. Microsoft surface (LAGGY)
4. Windows tablets (e.g. the lenovo yoga,dell XPS, sony ,etc)
personally, i would get
ONE: Asus PadFone just cause its technically the only tablet you can make 2/3G calls with
(and the asus padfone has 3 "transformable" states [phone --> tablet --> laptop/ultrabook)
PRICE: 1000
TWO Razer Edge PRO, its windows based, and we're android users, but that I7 core and dedicated grpahics is just amazing
PRICE: 1000-3000
I believe HP has just announced a new android tablet with a detachable keyboard as well. I think it is sporting a tegra 4 chip.
http://www8.hp.com/ca/en/ads/x2/slatebook-x2.html
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Not the TF700?
woot.com (and its various woot-ettes) have been running sales on TF300s and TF700s of late. They only do one item per day, but they have like ten thousand sites now, so you might get lucky.
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I believe HP has just announced a new android tablet with a detachable keyboard as well. I think it is sporting a tegra 4 chip.
http://www8.hp.com/ca/en/ads/x2/slatebook-x2.html
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Thanks for all the replies. I was looking hard at the HP with Android and the Tegra 4. Specs wise it looks really good. But....my wife ended up deciding she wanted a Windows based tablet. Not RT but a full Windows. So she ended up buying an HP Envy X2 which is really pretty nice (though a bit pricey at $619 on Amazon). I actually kind of like the thing though...she doesn't much like it now that she has it. Doesn't like Windows 8 at all even though we had been over it using a Surface Pro I have for work. Soooooo, today I downloaded Stardock's Start 8 which puts the Windows 7 start menu back where it belongs and lets you start directly to the desktop where most of her work is anyway. Basically I made it look as much like Windows 7 as I could without actually installing Windows 7.
Oh well. Looks like I'm sticking with my Prime for the foreseeable future. Which actually isn't a bad thing. I've got the latest and greatest from flumpster on there (HB 2.31) and it really works better than ever...actually it works the way Asus should have made it work in the first place. So, not a bad thing at all other than that I spent $619 on something my wife doesn't really like (hope she likes it better when she gets home today and sees how I Windows 7ized it for her).
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Thanks for all the replies. I was looking hard at the HP with Android and the Tegra 4. Specs wise it looks really good. But....my wife ended up deciding she wanted a Windows based tablet. Not RT but a full Windows. So she ended up buying an HP Envy X2 which is really pretty nice (though a bit pricey at $619 on Amazon). I actually kind of like the thing though...she doesn't much like it now that she has it. Doesn't like Windows 8 at all even though we had been over it using a Surface Pro I have for work. Soooooo, today I downloaded Stardock's Start 8 which puts the Windows 7 start menu back where it belongs and lets you start directly to the desktop where most of her work is anyway. Basically I made it look as much like Windows 7 as I could without actually installing Windows 7.
Oh well. Looks like I'm sticking with my Prime for the foreseeable future. Which actually isn't a bad thing. I've got the latest and greatest from flumpster on there (HB 2.31) and it really works better than ever...actually it works the way Asus should have made it work in the first place. So, not a bad thing at all other than that I spent $619 on something my wife doesn't really like (hope she likes it better when she gets home today and sees how I Windows 7ized it for her).
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How can you call a $600 tablet a "replacement" for a tf201? You can buy three tf201s for that and have a lot of change left over. I hate it when people compare the advantages of a $600 item with one that can be had for well under $200. Would you talk about Jaguars when looking for a Chevy replacement?
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How can you call a $600 tablet a "replacement" for a tf201? You can buy three tf201s for that and have a lot of change left over. I hate it when people compare the advantages of a $600 item with one that can be had for well under $200. Would you talk about Jaguars when looking for a Chevy replacement?
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It depends if you was comparing a brand new Chevy to a Jaguar coming to the end of its life cycle.
I hate it when people make analogies and try to make it suit their need. Do you think the Prime was under $200 when brand new?
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It depends if you was comparing a brand new Chevy to a Jaguar coming to the end of its life cycle.
I hate it when people make analogies and try to make it suit their need. Do you think the Prime was under $200 when brand new?
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BS. A 1960's Jag is still worth far more than a Chevy that's being "replaced". (Obviosly the Chevy isn't new either.) And anyone who paid the original price for a tf201 has probably replaced it long ago. There are new 10" tab;ets hitting the market regularly that sell for under $300.
But personally, I'm perfectly happy with my tf201. It is running Android 4.3, gets very good battery life and has an Antu benchmark of 14,562. You'd have a hard time finding a brand new tablet for under $400 that could match those specs.
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BS. A 1960's Jag is still worth far more than a Chevy that's being "replaced". (Obviosly the Chevy isn't new either.) And anyone who paid the original price for a tf201 has probably replaced it long ago. There are new 10" tab;ets hitting the market regularly that sell for under $300.
But personally, I'm perfectly happy with my tf201. It is running Android 4.3, gets very good battery life and has an Antu benchmark of 14,562. You'd have a hard time finding a brand new tablet for under $400 that could match those specs.
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Are you still trying to make that analogy work ?
I paid original price for the tf201 and still have it and so do many others. There has been nothing until now that has really made me want to upgrade.
When people replace things it doesn't have to be the same value as what the old one is worth. I'm pretty sure he can spend what he wants.
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Are you still trying to make that analogy work ?
I paid original price for the tf201 and still have it and so do many others. There has been nothing until now that has really made me want to upgrade.
When people replace things it doesn't have to be the same value as what the old one is worth. I'm pretty sure he can spend what he wants.
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Agree completely. Comparing what I could pay now for a two year old item with what a brand new one costs, doesn't make any sense. You basically have to compare what I originally paid for the Prime, new VS what I would pay today to get a similar new item. I just pulled up my Amazon.Com order for when I originally got my Prime to refresh my memory. Here was what was on it:
Prime: $474.99
Keyboard dock: $110.86
Case: $17.95
32GB Micro SD: $19.49
Shipping: $15.96
Total: $639.25 and I remember thinking I was getting a reasonably good deal at the time.
Take out the SD card and the case and it comes out to $601.81, or about the same price we paid for my Wife's new HP machine which came with the keyboard as standard. Everyone can decide for themselves if they like Windows 8. Hardware wise the Envy X2 is way faster than the Prime and it gets better battery life (similar configuration to the prime with a battery in both the tablet part and the keyboard).
But performance comparisons are not fair either. Of course the brand new Atom out performs the two year old Tegra 3. If I were buying an Android tablet today, I'd be looking for a Tegra 4 or similar,
Here is another way the analogy brakes down. Forget about an old Jag vs an old chevy. A better example is that I just bought a new 2013 Nissan truck. Now those have not changed all that much since introduced in 2005. I could probably buy two or three 2005's for what I paid for the 2013, but hey, I wanted a new one.
One final place where the analogy brakes down. A 1960's Jag qualifies as a "classic"/"vintage" where an outdated piece of computing hardware counts as "land fill" in pretty much everyone's book.
By the way, the whole purpose of this thread was not how much a prime or a windows tablet costs. The Idea was to find a newer, faster, better tablet that would also have all the features I like about the prime. Just saying.
PS: Flumpster, thanks for all your work on HB. It is because of you that the Prime is still relevant at all rather than (as I mentioned above) "land fill". It is also because of you and HB that I don't fee bad about hanging onto the Prime for a while.