Jellybean - Motorola Photon 4G

Will we see cm10??
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photon4glover said:
Will we see cm10??
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CM10, most likely
Official from Moto, no way in hell

doubt it unless Motorola/google are able to convince Sprint into making their existing phones (like the photon) into a "nexus" build.
They are aldready 1yr late on ICS.

Shad0wguy said:
CM10, most likely
Official from Moto, no way in hell
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I'm doubting ics from motor lol
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eh cm10? i really doubt it. we dont even know how much of a change key lime will be.
if you are talking about cm9.1 then yea prolly

I don't think it'll be cm9.1
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they just pushed cm9 rc1, for them to have to start over with graphics and all that for the changes, i dont see happening. jb is very nice and i cant wiat for it but it wasnt groudbreaking like ics was and keylime in nov will prolly be cm10

where can I get the new play store on cm9 so I can get TV shows
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where can I get the new play store on cm9 so I can get TV shows
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Since this thread is titled "Jellybean", it's probably not the best thread in which to ask about CM9 things!

I wish Motorola would just forgo ICS and just work on a JB ROM for the Photon since we have to wait for Q4 release anyways. I wouldn't mind if it didn't get released until Nov/Dec if that is what it took. I would love to use Google Now and new voice feature.

ericdabbs said:
I wish Motorola would just forgo ICS and just work on a JB ROM for the Photon since we have to wait for Q4 release anyways. I wouldn't mind if it didn't get released until Nov/Dec if that is what it took. I would love to use Google Now and new voice feature.
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I agree with this idea. Since the changes from ICS are minor, why not just go to the newest version?

ericdabbs said:
I wish Motorola would just forgo ICS and just work on a JB ROM for the Photon since we have to wait for Q4 release anyways. I wouldn't mind if it didn't get released until Nov/Dec if that is what it took. I would love to use Google Now and new voice feature.
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I agree - can't imagine that JB will take much more work than ICS.

When I was on T-mo with the MyTouch 3G 3.5 (A Year + Wait) - we were updated from Donut to Froyo.

demonotaku said:
When I was on T-mo with the MyTouch 3G 3.5 (A Year + Wait) - we were updated from Donut to Froyo.
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OK ......................

Ik lol not to be rude but kinda unrelated
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1. Can we stop hating on Motorola? Our phones are made by Motorola Mobility, which is now a part of Google. I think Google deserves a fair share of blame for capable Motorola phones not being updated with/shortly after the Nexus line. Nexus is third-party anyway. N1 was HTC, next one was either HTC or Samsung, GNex is Samsung, and N7 is Asus. First-party is the Droid line and anything else by Motorola.
2. JB should be CM10; KLP should be CM11. J is the 10th letter of the alphabet; I the 9th. CM hasn't done .n releases for major revisions of Android arbitrarily considered to be minor. CM7.2 is still Gingerbread. There is no CM8 AFAIK because that number is reserved for Honeycomb. (Maybe there is a CM8 based on HC and I'm simply misinformed. But I haven't heard of it.)
3. I don't trust Google/Motorola Mobility to upgrade us Electrify owners to anything. I do believe Photon will get ICS by the end of the year, if not sooner.
4. "Why don't they skip ICS?" Your Money. They know you... or rather the uninformed masses... will buy an ICS phone to replace their GB phone, then a JB phone to replace that.
5. There is no new Play Store. You may have heard about a new Play storefront that removes reflections. It's all server side; you have it already.

Dark Reality said:
1. Can we stop hating on Motorola? Our phones are made by Motorola Mobility, which is now a part of Google. I think Google deserves a fair share of blame for capable Motorola phones not being updated with/shortly after the Nexus line. Nexus is third-party anyway. N1 was HTC, next one was either HTC or Samsung, GNex is Samsung, and N7 is Asus. First-party is the Droid line and anything else by Motorola.
2. JB should be CM10; KLP should be CM11. J is the 10th letter of the alphabet; I the 9th. CM hasn't done .n releases for major revisions of Android arbitrarily considered to be minor. CM7.2 is still Gingerbread. There is no CM8 AFAIK because that number is reserved for Honeycomb. (Maybe there is a CM8 based on HC and I'm simply misinformed. But I haven't heard of it.)
3. I don't trust Google/Motorola Mobility to upgrade us Electrify owners to anything. I do believe Photon will get ICS by the end of the year, if not sooner.
4. "Why don't they skip ICS?" Your Money. They know you... or rather the uninformed masses... will buy an ICS phone to replace their GB phone, then a JB phone to replace that.
5. There is no new Play Store. You may have heard about a new Play storefront that removes reflections. It's all server side; you have it already.
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google is not to blame. the "old" motorola is. at this point in time at least.

ericdabbs said:
I wish Motorola would just forgo ICS and just work on a JB ROM for the Photon since we have to wait for Q4 release anyways. I wouldn't mind if it didn't get released until Nov/Dec if that is what it took. I would love to use Google Now and new voice feature.
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No, see that makes sense, which motorola seems to be lacking. Hopefully Google can have some influence here though I doubt it.
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Well if Motorola is truly working on a new LTE phone for Sprint then I doubt Sprint would entertain the JB ROM idea for the Photon 4G. Depending on when the phone is going to be released, they might target the new LTE phone to have Jelly Bean especially if the phone won't launch until October/November.

Shad0wguy said:
No, see that makes sense, which motorola seems to be lacking. Hopefully Google can have some influence here though I doubt it.
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Google moto
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Google Chrome for Android.

According to engadget, Google has just released chrome for select ics devices. I expect, nay DEMAND a port to my DX2 in 3..2..1..
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Looks pretty slick.... ics only.... I assume they will make a version for gb phones.
Sucks it's ICS only. Any ideas on why it took them so long to get the ball going for this on Android? I assume ICS got the first release because of hardware acceleration, but you'd think they'd have a previously working version looooong ago.
Does anyone have the APK? We can try and install it anyways...
Edit:Here's a link
http://db.tt/mXhhmr4R
Does it work for anyone else?
Jubomime said:
According to engadget, Google has just released chrome for select ics devices. I expect, nay DEMAND a port to my DX2 in 3..2..1..
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All the more reason for us X2 users to ***** at Moto/VRZ to update our phones!!! Google needs to take a stand with the manufacturers and carriers over this.
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Does anyone have the APK? We can try and install it anyways...
Edit:Here's a link
http://db.tt/mXhhmr4R
Does it work for anyone else?
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Just to be clear, did it or did it not work for you? I had no success on my X2 or my honeycomb tablet.
Stuckinabox said:
Just to be clear, did it or did it not work for you? I had no success on my X2 or my honeycomb tablet.
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It does not and will not work without some serious hacking from what I've been told.
It does not work.
Heh, it started for me on my cm9 galaxy tab but then forced closed when i tried to search.
Since engadget said SELECT ics devices it wouldn't surprise me if it only works on.. Galaxy nexus for now..
*edit* my mistake, they do NOT specify select ics devices just 4.0 in general.
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It does not and will not work without some serious hacking from what I've been told.
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That's because ICS was a major upgrade from Gingerbread, especially at the kernel level. It was more of a rewrite than an upgrade.
Hence, this is looking for ICS libraries. It's possibly also looking for an ICS kernel which we don't have AND won't have unless Verizon decides to release ICS for the X2.
We are at the mercy of Verizon on this one.
Remember, CM9 will still have the GB kernel, not an ICS one since we cannot replace the kernel due to the locked bootloader. Again, at the mercy of Verizon AND Motorola on the locked bootloader.
I've been waiting for Chrome on Android for the entire time I've had an Android (about a year and a half). I just came across an article about on another website, read the whole thing with excitement, and then shot a baby when I read it was only for ICS. WTF?! That's very disappointing to me. Any thoughts as to why they did that? Maybe because it's beta and wanted limited exposure at first?
If they just now started working on getting chrome out then it really doesn't make sense to release it on gingerbread and ics. I would expect that it would be released for their newer os rather than the one that is going to be phased out. Maybe once they get all the bugs worked out they will release a version usable on gingerbread, so phones that won't be updated, or even new phones that aren't as powerful as the phones sporting ics, will be able to use it.
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Works great on my stock xoom running ICS.
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I just found our also that this doesn't support flash and it never will. As far as browsers go many people are sticking to opera.
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I love, currently using it as my default browser. Switching between tabs is way too entertaining XP
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I've been able to use it on my ICS Xoom, and let me say, it is amazing. Comparable to the PC version in terms of performance. I think we should be able to use it with CM9, whenever that is released.
Adobe isn't supporting flash anymore for mobile devices so that makes sense
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swbf2lord said:
I've been able to use it on my ICS Xoom, and let me say, it is amazing. Comparable to the PC version in terms of performance. I think we should be able to use it with CM9, whenever that is released.
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Because we are stuck on the gingerbread kernel, CM9 may not work unless Motorola releases ICS for DX2. As stated earlier, apk needs libraries from the ICS kernel. The only other option is to hack the actual apk.

[Q] ICS?

I know we don't have any ICS kernel sources yet but do you think we will get ICS before this August?
I thought I read somewhere that we were getting it in the next month or two. I would assume we would have a good working ICS port at the least in the next month or two. Can't speak for the devs here, but I thought that's what we were looking at. As for when ATT will push it out, that could be forever...I hate how long they take, but oh well.
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I know we don't have any ICS kernel sources yet but do you think we will get ICS before this August?
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do you think the cubs will win the world series this year? not likely but how will we know the answer either of these questions without official word...
tennockey said:
I thought I read somewhere that we were getting it in the next month or two. I would assume we would have a good working ICS port at the least in the next month or two. Can't speak for the devs here, but I thought that's what we were looking at. As for when ATT will push it out, that could be forever...I hate how long they take, but oh well.
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No, you're thinking about the i9100, not the i777
I'm sorry but just go and get a galaxy nexus ...no matter how good those roms are for all the other phones....there's no full ics google experience guaranteed on them other phones.....that's in my opinion
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njd15 said:
I'm sorry but just go and get a galaxy nexus ...no matter how good those roms are for all the other phones....there's no full ics google experience guaranteed on them other phones.....that's in my opinion
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The only thing you're gaining by going to the Galaxy Nexus is a better screen and NFC. I dont understand why people switch phones over Android versions.
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i'm a noob, but
Didn't I just read that if you remove the AT&T logo, you get ics automatically?
trell959 said:
The only thing you're gaining by going to the Galaxy Nexus is a better screen and NFC. I dont understand why people switch phones over Android versions.
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Having used ICS on the captivate, it truly is an update worth switching devices for. However, I'm pretty happy with the I777 so I will just wait. Android updates that were actually really good: Froyo, Honeycomb, and ICS. The rest were just hyped too damn much and gingerbread is the worst of all of them (imho).
Wow. Use the sticky thread.
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trell959 said:
The only thing you're gaining by going to the Galaxy Nexus is a better screen and NFC. I dont understand why people switch phones over Android versions.
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For one, it's not just ICS when Jellybean comes out, you're going to get it much quicker than anyone else. And also, it's the purest form of the Android version minus any bloatware each manufacturer puts on the phone, which can be either a pro or a con, but overall, the bloatware has been a con in the past.
IMO, Gingerbread was a very good update, Froyo didn't seem that special when I finally got it for my S7. The biggest improvement was non-broken radio firmware, which had nothing to do with Android version.
Gingerbread had significant power management improvements.
mgd76 said:
Didn't I just read that if you remove the AT&T logo, you get ics automatically?
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Im still trying to rub it off!
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Tired of waiting!!!!
I love and appreciate all the work that the Devs have done for our phone, but if we don't get ICS soon I will be leaving this phone. A lot of my friends have phones with ICS roms and it is such a improvement over GB. I don't understand how one and two year old phones have ICS and Samsung won't allow us to have it. It is ridiculous.
chadrick.7 said:
I love and appreciate all the work that the Devs have done for our phone, but if we don't get ICS soon I will be leaving this phone. A lot of my friends have phones with ICS roms and it is such a improvement over GB. I don't understand how one and two year old phones have ICS and Samsung won't allow us to have it. It is ridiculous.
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I mean I understand sorta, but it doesn't help to threaten the devs that if they don't do what you want you will leave. Tbh, I don't think any dev really cares.
ryude said:
I mean I understand sorta, but it doesn't help to threaten the devs that if they don't do what you want you will leave. Tbh, I don't think any dev really cares.
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I am not threatening the devs at all. I am sick of Samsung not the devs. Read a little more careful next time.
chadrick.7 said:
I love and appreciate all the work that the Devs have done for our phone, but if we don't get ICS soon I will be leaving this phone. A lot of my friends have phones with ICS roms and it is such a improvement over GB. I don't understand how one and two year old phones have ICS and Samsung won't allow us to have it. It is ridiculous.
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I keep hearing about source being released within the next month, just wait it out
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I keep hearing about source being released within the next month, just wait it out
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I am really trying!!!
chadrick.7 said:
I love and appreciate all the work that the Devs have done for our phone, but if we don't get ICS soon I will be leaving this phone. A lot of my friends have phones with ICS roms and it is such a improvement over GB. I don't understand how one and two year old phones have ICS and Samsung won't allow us to have it. It is ridiculous.
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What the hell is your problem? Name one phone other than the Nexus line that has received ICS officially.
HTC hasn't released any updates yet.
Motorola hasn't released any updates yet.
Sony has only released betas (I applaud them for putting out prereleases)
Asus has only pushed it to one tablet (easier to port HC tablets due to HC being a newer codebase and not having to deal with the RIL) and that was an utter disaster
So far, my experience with ICS is that it's not an improvement over Gingerbread. I haven't been able to see any significant positive improvement - some parts of the UI are a bit shinier, but the gapps user interface is clunker than it was in GB. ICS has some good improvements on tablets, but for phones - not so nice.
Entropy512 said:
What the hell is your problem? Name one phone other than the Nexus line that has received ICS officially.
HTC hasn't released any updates yet.
Motorola hasn't released any updates yet.
Sony has only released betas (I applaud them for putting out prereleases)
Asus has only pushed it to one tablet (easier to port HC tablets due to HC being a newer codebase and not having to deal with the RIL) and that was an utter disaster
So far, my experience with ICS is that it's not an improvement over Gingerbread. I haven't been able to see any significant positive improvement - some parts of the UI are a bit shinier, but the gapps user interface is clunker than it was in GB. ICS has some good improvements on tablets, but for phones - not so nice.
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First of all I said that I APPRECIATE the devs!!!! And I never said that the roms were official. Almost all HTC and LG phones have ICS roms. I left t-mobile with the htc sensation and believe me that phone runs 300% better now that it is running ICS. And by the way Entropy it is no disrespect to any dev by what I said, I am rocking your Kernel right now (Excellent job). I am pissed at Samsung and them only. Our phone is supposed to be a flagship phone so what the hell is the holdup?
If you can't wait then just go get the G Nexus. These questions have been brought up and beaten to death. Just don't be surprised when Ics finally drops for our device and our Roms are superior than most. GS2 surely has the hardware to run prety much anything smoothly and dev community is strong here
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This thread is useless. Now on to something more important. When will we get jelly bean? I can't wait.
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Q4?

Umm, isn't that next month? Or later, cause aren't we suppose to be getting ics early q4
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A2CKilla said:
Umm, isn't that next month? Or later, cause aren't we suppose to be getting ics early q4
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We may never know. Maybe Moto could push the upgrade to 2013 so we will never get it because 2012-the end of the world is coming! Lol.
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New updated phone about to drop,probably be next year
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I think Moto will stick to the timeline they have posted. ICS has been in development for the Photon for a while now and from all I have read with the re-structuring of Moto Mobility it seems they are pushing to get devices on the latest Android releases. Sounds to me like Google wants Moto to get on an update schedule similar to what the Nexus devices are on. This should not be a problem with Moto not having to support so many devices in the future.
I do hope that if/when ICS does come to the Photon it is a better release than what other manufacturers have pushed out. Everyone I have heard from that has gotten ICS hates it and wants GB back. Of course the best bet is to wait until our developers get the proper drivers and incorporate the missing pieces into custom roms and run those.
Only thing I'm worried about is a permalocked boot loader ICS
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Only thing I'm worried about is a permalocked boot loader ICS
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Well....I think it is a good sign that the Photon Q is coming with an unlocked bootloader option right out of the box. At least that is what the Sprint guy in here posted.
Samsung Captivate Glide (same Tegra 2 chip) got its ICS leak.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831561
Maybe our devs will manage to pull drivers and other crap from that release?
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Samsung Captivate Glide (same Tegra 2 chip) got its ICS leak.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831561
Maybe our devs will manage to pull drivers and other crap from that release?
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I would PM Joker or Th3Bill with that link, just in case they missed it.
i don't care whether we get the official ICS, or even the drivers from another phone as long as the drivers are taken, and can be used towards all of the problems with the custom ICS and JB roms i will be happy. Hopefully if we cant get drivers from another phone the official ICS will get rolled out soon.
This is a seriously dead topic that's been discussed over and over and over again. 12 months in a year, 4 quarters in a year. 12 divided by 4 is 3. Each quarter is three months long. Q3 ends with September. Q4 begins with October. Atrix ICS before end of September. Photon ICS before end of December. Atrix and photon = same hardware. Meaning, our jb and ICS ROMs will be perfectly stable shortly after the atrix ICS gets released.
^^^^^^
i was just about to say. Q4 starts in october
captivate ics wont really change terribly much. look at the xoom ics or even gtab 10.1. all used diff camera sensors/wrappers so sure the chipset is the same.. but the crap that is needed for stable isnt :/
unless something has drastically changed since the last time i talked to joker the camera was the last big hurdle?
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This is a seriously dead topic that's been discussed over and over and over again. 12 months in a year, 4 quarters in a year. 12 divided by 4 is 3. Each quarter is three months long. Q3 ends with September. Q4 begins with October. Atrix ICS before end of September. Photon ICS before end of December. Atrix and photon = same hardware. Meaning, our jb and ICS ROMs will be perfectly stable shortly after the atrix ICS gets released.
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thanks for answering the post, along with a little extra info
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^^^^^^
i was just about to say. Q4 starts in october
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thanks for just answering my post
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thanks for answering the post, but being an a** at the same time -_-
thanks for just answering my post
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So if i would have left out that first sentence I wouldn't be an ass? It was a factual statement, not a shot at you. I see you actively contributing around here quite often, I was surprised that a regular such as yourself would start a thread posing a question in which there are many other threads that have the answer. A little reading wouldn't hurt is all im saying.
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So if i would have left out that first sentence I wouldn't be an ass? It was a factual statement, not a shot at you. I see you actively contributing around here quite often, I was surprised that a regular such as yourself would start a thread posing a question in which there are many other threads that have the answer. A little reading wouldn't hurt is all im saying.
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Well sir, I retract my statement, and issue an apology
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captivate ics wont really change terribly much. look at the xoom ics or even gtab 10.1. all used diff camera sensors/wrappers so sure the chipset is the same.. but the crap that is needed for stable isnt :/
unless something has drastically changed since the last time i talked to joker the camera was the last big hurdle?
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actually i read a discussion somewhere, they are not the same, cos tablets are based on Harmony board (tegra 250 T20), and mobiles on Ventana (tegra 250 AP20H) and some crappy little difference between them didnt let the devs do that.
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captivate ics wont really change terribly much. look at the xoom ics or even gtab 10.1. all used diff camera sensors/wrappers so sure the chipset is the same.. but the crap that is needed for stable isnt :/
unless something has drastically changed since the last time i talked to joker the camera was the last big hurdle?
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Those tablets use a different type of Tegra 2, that's why. Photon/ Atrix= AP20H, Xoom/ Galaxy Tabs= T20. The captivate uses the same chip set as these Moto Tegra devices. People from the Atrix forums have started looking into the captivate leaks for anything, just be patient and wait for the news
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understandable that its the same tegra chipset but that doesnt mean its the same camera module. this is a different manufacturer we are talking about (samsung at that so it actually has a decent camera unlike moto)
Unless you're stuck with a locked bootloader or fortunate enough to be in a WiMax market, head over to the developer's forum and load one of the many ICS or JB based ROMs. Joker's CM10 based ROM is as stable or better of an experience than I ever had with factory.

Motorola Jelly Bean Promise

Well Google buying Moto may have been a good thing, today Dennis Woodside announced that we will be upgrading all Motorola Devices we can to Jelly Bean and those that can't we will give you a $100 credit towards a new device.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/motorola-jelly-bean-upgrades/
Motorola is actually doing something for their customers? I'm shocked. Depending on what kind of phones they announce, this may be cool. A lot of people will probably not want to stick with Motorola though.
EDIT: The Droid Razr M actually doesnt look that bad.
i want to see this happen, but i'm sure there is a way to screw over x2 users...maybe if they did though the wife would get the razr m
we'll see though
I just saw this and almost cheered during class lol.
I'm excited now, can't wait to see what will come in the next couple weeks/months.
It's for phones released in 2011 and later only. When was X2 released?
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Drunkula said:
It's for phones released in 2011 and later only. When was X2 released?
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Droid X2 was released May of 2011.
It would be amazing if we got Jelly Bean. That could open a lot of doors for us. (CM10 and all JB Roms due to an updated Kernel).
The $100 is kind of a lame incentive if we don't get the JB update. Who's really going to get another Moto phone? Show of hands please?
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It's for phones released in 2011 and later only. When was X2 released?
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Where did you see the year it just states "All of its new and existing". I didn't see the keynote speech unless it was Apple style and was blog only on the day of event.
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Droid X2 was released May of 2011.
It would be amazing if we got Jelly Bean. That could open a lot of doors for us. (CM10 and all JB Roms due to an updated Kernel).
The $100 is kind of a lame incentive if we don't get the JB update. Who's really going to get another Moto phone? Show of hands please?
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Well they already said that the Droid X2 was to remain on Gingerbread. So if we get anything, it will be the 100 bucks towards a new phone.
I doubt we will get anything....
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i will raise hell for you guys to get the $100. they said it so its now in stone. since we arent getting ICS let alone JB, we MUST get it or im going back to BBB complaints. sure im not using this phone as my daily, but, hell, you guys deserve it and ill switch back for $100 lmao
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Broskis! that didnt take long! heres the link to register. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/ci/documents/detail/2/motorola-jelly-bean-rebate_en-US just enter you info, pick the droid x2 and you golden. Congratz
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Where did you see the year it just states "All of its new and existing".
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I saw/heard it on the presentation, live. Hadn't seen it in print yet.
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Broskis! that didnt take long! heres the link to register. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/ci/documents/detail/2/motorola-jelly-bean-rebate_en-US just enter you info, pick the droid x2 and you golden. Congratz
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I wonder what the "select smart phones" are.....
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I wonder what the "select smart phones" are.....
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Probably the two newest announced phones....
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Wow . That's amazing
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I wonder if moto is tracking me. I got three "random" reboots while trying to fill this out on my phone (cm9). Hahaha.
It will be interesting to see if this only applied to phones bought from the carrier. I have 0 interest in buying a carrier subsidized phone again.
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I'll take the jelly bean, they can keep the money if it means another moto phone.
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scotty1825 said:
I'll take the jelly bean, they can keep the money if it means another moto phone.
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Your not getting jellybean or ics moto hates the dx2.
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morphius2036 said:
Well Google buying Moto may have been a good thing, today Dennis Woodside announced that we will be upgrading all Motorola Devices we can to Jelly Bean and those that can't we will give you a $100 credit towards a new device.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/motorola-jelly-bean-upgrades/
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A 100.00 credit is what u will get the x2 was lucky to get official 2.3.5...if you have unlimited 3g and want to keep it you can't upgrade to a 4g phone so the 100.00 credit is useless. If you wanna loose the unlimited 3g then its a 100.00 credit and a switch to a laughable shared data plan...so either way your screwed...vzw and moto likely planned it out together
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morphius2036 said:
Well Google buying Moto may have been a good thing, today Dennis Woodside announced that we will be upgrading all Motorola Devices we can to Jelly Bean and those that can't we will give you a $100 credit towards a new device.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/motorola-jelly-bean-upgrades/
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Let's see the details. I don't trust them at all. WE will see if it makes any impact. Motorola is still cow-towing to Verizon on locked boot loaders and installing root detectors. So I'm betting its nothing but a PR gimick.
Oh ,gee thanks MOTO> I got a X2 in OCt.. 2011 and you dropped support for it 6 months later, so now I can buy another Moto from Verizon for $650 and you will give me $100 . Big woop. you screwed me once, never again..........
Just my $0.02 US - I think if Google were to publicly acknowledge the work done by the various rom devs here at XDA and elsewhere, and especially, the cyanogen Mod Team, in advancing the capabilites of the Android OS, it would put a big crinkle in Verizon/Sprint/AT&T's propaganda about not wanting to unlock bootloaders and the bloatware the carriers put on the phones.
As another poster upthread put it, why put it on the phones if nobody is gonna use it and not contribute to the carrier's coffers? Give us a OEM interface but leave the crapware off and unlock the bootloaders if you want to sell more phones!
One thing Steve Jobs hated about Android is the ability to customize the OS. I say we stick it to Apple and continue to customize our phones to OUR liking!

Now it's your move AT&T.....

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...4-1-2-build-ls970zvb-starting-to-trickle-out/
Joecascio2000 said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...4-1-2-build-ls970zvb-starting-to-trickle-out/
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Don't hold your breath...
Also, better things are forthcoming...
Was this official ota's or just a soak test?
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tmease1 said:
Was this official ota's or just a soak test?
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It is unsure at this point.
From the link in the OP.
All with nary a word from The Now Network, which is usually pretty on top of announcing updates for devices. Ergo, at this point, we're not entirely sure if this is the start of a full-on rollout or just a "soak test" of sorts. We're thinking the former, but until official word is muttered from the lips of Sprint, it's a crapshoot.
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From having previous experience with Att and Android it could still be a while. Att gets in no hurry for updates. I don't know what is involved with their testing of new firmware but it's ridiculous.
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tmease1 said:
From having previous experience with Att and Android it could still be a while. Att gets in no hurry for updates. I don't know what is involved with their testing of new firmware but it's ridiculous.
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I think the testing isn't what kills it... I think att doesn't test at all half the time. What do they have to lose if we don't get updates. People rarely get mad at carriers when the manufacturer can be blamed.
It would not surprise me find out att won't push the update because it says "lg" at the top of the phone instead of "att"
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Snow_fox said:
I think the testing isn't what kills it... I think att doesn't test at all half the time. What do they have to lose if we don't get updates. People rarely get mad at carriers when the manufacturer can be blamed.
It would not surprise me find out att won't push the update because it says "lg" at the top of the phone instead of "att"
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and why incur the cost, if there's virtually no recourse for not releasing the updated OS. But if that's going to be the case, have the manufacturer release the upgrades, requiring that their own crapware is included in the release.
dbgeek said:
and why incur the cost, if there's virtually no recourse for not releasing the updated OS. But if that's going to be the case, have the manufacturer release the upgrades, requiring that their own crapware is included in the release.
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Guys, you've got to remember that us, the people on XDA, arent the majority. Most people don't know what jellybean is and if they do they couldn't tell you the difference in jelly bean and ICS. AT&T knows this so they don't bother with updates, they're lazy and couldn't care less about the minority. Honestly, i don't think any of the people who handle the updates at AT&T know whats new in jellybean. Maybe they should hire some xda devs to handle their updates haha
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Guys, you've got to remember that us, the people on XDA, arent the majority. Most people don't know what jellybean is and if they do they couldn't tell you the difference in jelly bean and ICS. AT&T knows this so they don't bother with updates, they're lazy and couldn't care less about the minority. Honestly, i don't think any of the people who handle the updates at AT&T know whats new in jellybean. Maybe they should hire some xda devs to handle their updates haha
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Heck, with how well this phone runs on ICS, aside from getting Google Now I'm still not entirely clear on what the JB ROMs we have give us, and I generally pay attention to these things...
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bassitone said:
Heck, with how well this phone runs on ICS, aside from getting Google Now I'm still not entirely clear on what the JB ROMs we have give us, and I generally pay attention to these things...
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I completely agree, I'm honestly kinda scared that the jellybean update could make the experience worse, at least an official update. This is the best phone I've ever used, even with ICS and little rom support. We've got great devs and even the stock experience isnt bad. Plus, google now is cool but I'm happy with this phone as is, I've got my nexus 7 for that haha
I had CM10.1 on my last phone, I really don't feel like I'm missing anything significant at all with rooted stock ics on this phone...
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I'm happy with rooted stock as well, except that I am hoping for a reduction in the excessive msm_hsic_host wakelocks that drain our batteries (seems this was fixed on the Nexus 4).
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I completely agree, I'm honestly kinda scared that the jellybean update could make the experience worse, at least an official update. This is the best phone I've ever used, even with ICS and little rom support. We've got great devs and even the stock experience isnt bad. Plus, google now is cool but I'm happy with this phone as is, I've got my nexus 7 for that haha
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It's quite a bit faster on jellybean and has Google now and a different font and a better modem.
bassitone said:
Heck, with how well this phone runs on ICS, aside from getting Google Now I'm still not entirely clear on what the JB ROMs we have give us, and I generally pay attention to these things...
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does this means that a dev could get the update rom from sprint and port it to att? or are the phones too much dissimilar to do that?
We have jelly bean already. I am running the version found in the developer section and I love it
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tnayrbj said:
We have jelly bean already. I am running the version found in the developer section and I love it
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I've been on SnowJB for a while now. It's still about the principle. Sprint released jb, even if it is just a soak test. AT&T is usually the last to get out updates for devices that have been released on multiple carriers. From my experience and research it is usually T-Mobile first, Sprint second, and ATT/Verizon tied for last.
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No update anytime soon. Trust me. Att wants you to buy new hardware. (Lgog pro)
They make money buy getting new contracts. After new og hits we get jb. I had HTC vivid there was no ICS till onex was out
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Which version of the LGOG sold world wide is closest to ours?
i'm used to the One X and Rogers&At&T being identical.
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No update anytime soon. Trust me. Att wants you to buy new hardware. (Lgog pro)
They make money buy getting new contracts. After new og hits we get jb. I had HTC vivid there was no ICS till onex was out
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That makes no sense because everyone who bought a LGOG shouldn't be anywhere close to getting another two-year contract. The LGOG is only 5 months old.
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That makes no sense because everyone who bought a LGOG shouldn't be anywhere close to getting another two-year contract. The LGOG is only 5 months old.
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Definitely. I'd like to see things out faster, too, but you hear a lot of pure speculation and conspiracy theories around here.
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