Just out of curiosity:
When the prime came out it was on GB. None of the reviews I read back then before buying, or can find now, mention any kind of ANR, hangs or other issues most likely caused by the poor I/O performance.
Is this just down to every single reviewer getting lucky, shady reviewing practises, or were the issues introduced with ICS?
Anyone have a prime back then care to comment?
Actually Prime never used GingerBread it was originally shipped with HoneyComb. As to the I/O issues can't really say with complete certainty ICS is causing them. It's more likely that since ICS was much newer and significantly different under the hood when compared to HoneyComb the I/O just hasn't been properly tuned up yet.
fatski said:
Just out of curiosity:
When the prime came out it was on GB. None of the reviews I read back then before buying, or can find now, mention any kind of ANR, hangs or other issues most likely caused by the poor I/O performance.
Is this just down to every single reviewer getting lucky, shady reviewing practises, or were the issues introduced with ICS?
Anyone have a prime back then care to comment?
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I think you mean Honeycomb. I had one. I can tell you that it seemed rather sluggish in general. To the effect that typing on the keyboard even lagged pretty badly. I was very disappointed, the prime not being at all what I had pictured in Tegra 3. From my point of view ICS was a great improvement all around. That said quite a few things are still extremely disappointing. I/O performance, wifi reception, wifi b/t dropout... all the common stuff. Most of which I believe to be hardware related. Anyways, if your rooted there is a method in the development section that you can use to downgrade to Honeycomb and get your own take on it.
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I can actually say that when I flashed an pics rom on my evo 4g and on the iconia a500 both had weaker wifi reception. Pretty sure that it is related to ics
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Oops. Yeah, I meant honeycomb :O
I know I could downgrade to check it out myself, but I'm lazy and was just curious.
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Is this just down to every single reviewer getting lucky, shady reviewing practises, or were the issues introduced with ICS?
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Guess I must be like all those reviewers cause mine works great. Not even sure what people are talking about on IO issues. I've only had it a short time. took it out of the box, did clean full install of .28 and have not seen any of the issues other report. Wi fi was weak at first but a quick week to my router fixed it. Just turned off mixed mode and that cured it I get 20 to 25 Mbps consistently.
I my be lucky but I can only repot what I've seen.
Yeah, my wifi is fine to be honest. I was definitely getting i/o based issues, especially when updating stuff from the Market, but I've pretty much solved those with various tweaks from here.
It just seemed strange to me that I didn't see a single review which so much as mentioned it. I understand most people on here are on here because they are experiencing issues, so it's not a good sample of all Prime owners, but stuff like the Browser ANR's do seem so widespread I would have thought at least a couple of reviewers would have mentioned it.
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Yeah, my wifi is fine to be honest. I was definitely getting i/o based issues, especially when updating stuff from the Market, but I've pretty much solved those with various tweaks from here.
It just seemed strange to me that I didn't see a single review which so much as mentioned it. I understand most people on here are on here because they are experiencing issues, so it's not a good sample of all Prime owners, but stuff like the Browser ANR's do seem so widespread I would have thought at least a couple of reviewers would have mentioned it.
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I may not see browser ANR's because I have never really used the built in Browser. I've been using Chrome and it seems to be working well for me. About the only time I use the built in browser is when I need Flash (which is rarely) which will not work in Chrome. BTW, when google released Android 4.1 (which has Chrome as its default) Chrome lost its "Beta" status for us too. I'm pleased with it.
You should read Anand's review (or watch the video), he doesn't call it IO issues, but he doesn't describe issues that we've come to associate with IO issues.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review
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Since the latest update I've been getting random reboots and my wifi does not stay connected when i take the prime out of sleep mode (i have the setting to always stay connected checked). i never had these problems before this new update. My wifi is also half as fast now. This device is stock, never rooted. Looks like the update is breaking some primes that were working fine before.
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Since the latest update I've been getting random reboots and my wifi does not stay connected when i take the prime out of sleep mode (i have the setting to always stay connected checked). i never had these problems before this new update. My wifi is also half as fast now. This device is stock, never rooted. Looks like the update is breaking some primes that were working fine before.
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This is very bad news for everyone and I saw this coming... Instead of doing the right thing and replacing the defective Primes they come up with a crazy bandaid patch that underclocks and all kinda of other BS kills our battery life and now causes lockups on Primes that were fine......... Everyone who owns a Prime now only has one choice and thats to return these defective junk units for a refund.
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This is very bad news for everyone and I saw this coming... Instead of doing the right thing and replacing the defective Primes they come up with a crazy bandaid patch that underclocks and all kinda of other BS kills our battery life and now causes lockups on Primes that were fine......... Everyone who owns a Prime now only has one choice and thats to return these defective junk units for a refund.
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Yea i was happy with it before this update but now i am having second thoughts, kinda sucks cause i love this device. I should have just kept my XOOM lol
I'm very upset about this. My prime has been one of the lucky ones, no problems since I got it. After the update yesterday i got many first random reboot. Not happy....
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I'm very upset about this. My prime has been one of the lucky ones, no problems since I got it. After the update yesterday i got many futurist random reboot. Not happy....
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Yes this further proves there is hardware differences in some primes and now they are trying to find a magical firmware that will play nice with both.... not going to happen they and we are screwed time to return for refunds.
Well i feel for you guys that had bad luck. But seriously you guys think about returning a device because of one bad patch? Well go ahead... There's one thing i learned from having an apple device once (ipod touch back in the day).
There only one rule: You NEVER apply an update unless you're 100% sure what it does and if its bad or not (Barney says: "Unless she's hot" )
If the patch has bugs in it, it will be fixed. Soon. Asus is quite fast man^^ Apple for example usually needs like half a year to get a new firmware with bugfixes out. I sticked to iOS 3.x for one YEAR after 4.x was released because there were serious battery drain problems and other bugs with wifi connection with 4.x. Just to give some comparison with the company that is known for delivering perfect software...
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Well i feel for you guys that had bad luck. But seriously you guys think about returning a device because of one bad patch? Well go ahead... There's one thing i learned from having an apple device once (ipod touch back in the day).
There only one rule: You NEVER apply an update unless you're 100% sure what it does and if its bad or not (Barney says: "Unless she's hot" )
If the patch has bugs in it, it will be fixed. Soon. Asus is quite fast man^^ Apple for example usually needs like half a year to get a new firmware with bugfixes out.
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that's fine when we can be sure a software/firmware fix will fix something but its been clearly obvious ASUS has thrown different hardware in Primes and or defective hardware.
And how do you come to this conclusion, or rather where is the evidence for that? Which parts of the hardware are different?
Every CPU/GPU's or rather any Microchip acts differently. Some act very wierd if you just OC/UV slightly and others handle massive Overclocks/Undervolts with ease. I've seen DesireHDs (1ghz Snapdragon CPU) running stable at 1.6ghz and others already have random reboots with 1.1ghz. Thats just how it is.
And btw the Chipset comes from nvidia. Its up to them to release stable drivers. Why blame this on Asus?
It really helps reading up a little on such stuff before posting on XDA because this is mainly a DEV forum and not a IMA ANGRY I WANNA SHOUT AT PEOPLE-type forum. No offense
In one month there will bootloader unlock tool, there will be custom kernels and custom software. Then you can OC/UV the hell out of your prime if you're not happy with stock values
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And how do you come to this conclusion, or rather where is the evidence for that? Which parts of the hardware are different?
Every CPU/GPU's or rather any Microchip acts differently. Some act very wierd if you just OC/UV slightly and others handle massive Overclocks/Undervolts with ease. I've seen DesireHDs (1ghz Snapdragon CPU) running stable at 1.6ghz and others already have random reboots with 1.1ghz. Thats just how it is.
And btw the Chipset comes from nvidia. Its up to them to release stable drivers. Why blame this on Asus?
It really helps reading up a little on such stuff before posting on XDA because this is mainly a DEV forum and not a IMA ANGRY I WANNA SHOUT AT PEOPLE-type forum. No offense
In one month there will bootloader unlock tool, there will be custom kernels and custom software. Then you can OC/UV the hell out of your prime if you're not happy with stock values
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i am just reporting an issue after a new update so other users are aware. i am not screaming and yelling about the prime being a piece of **** tablet, i actually love the device but the update blows. i called cust support and they told me to do a factory reset lol just have to wait for the next "fix" and deal with it until then
You did not specify the update version that you applied.
Can we assume you applied .13?
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You did not specify the update version that you applied.
Can we assume you applied .13?
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yes, .13 is the update i am talking about
Did you factory reset and my youtube is working again. Ill keep you posted on the reboot/wifi issues
Mind telling us which batch does your Prime belong to? Thanks.
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Since the latest update I've been getting random reboots and my wifi does not stay connected when i take the prime out of sleep mode (i have the setting to always stay connected checked). i never had these problems before this new update. My wifi is also half as fast now. This device is stock, never rooted. Looks like the update is breaking some primes that were working fine before.
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Before you blame you patch, I suggest you do a factory reset. Just to be sure its not one of those that is causing your reboots. It certainly wouldn't be the cause of problems.
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After my update to .13 - my prime had a few random reboots last night for the first time since I got the tablet a month ago...and while wifi "appears" stronger (I haven't used wifi analyzer on it yet but noticed in one corner of my house, it was showing 2 bars whereas in the past it showed only 1), I did notice that upon resuming, a handful of times Wifi was no longer reconnecting. I had to go into settings, then all of a sudden wifi would come back to life.
Definitely do a factory reset. Had the sale dropout issues and it fixed it! Good luck!
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Same boat here.
I had zero issues before the update now random reboots.
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Same boat here.
I had zero issues before the update now random reboots.
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so far so good after the factory reset. wifi has been connected and no reboots yet...
Doesn't appear to be too many effected by new update as far as lockups? Maybe a couple?
Are you tired of the constant updates lately? I didn't know if it would fix my prime or break it further I was just hoping for the best with 13,14, and 15. I was also hoping someone could hack the unlock key so I could still have my warranty. Well yesterday I got irritated and decided to unlock. The entire time I had second thoughts because I am unsure if this tablet will last a year without breaking lol, so I clicked through as fast as I could (after reading all the unlock ops.) Well as soon as I was unlocked I felt a whole lot better about my prime. Maybe I have just lost faith in Asus, I don't know but as soon as I loaded virtuous I felt more secure about my purchase. I guess I have finally come to the conclusion that Asus ISNT going to have a miracle fix for the prime that fixes all the problems and after asking someone through PM twice for a refund since I was dissatisfied with the product (only to get no response what so ever..) I decided I would make the best of what I have and stop worrying.
I don't know how to explain it but now that my device is unlocked all of my uncertainties are gone. I will keep this device for the next year or so and crack flash like there's no tomorrow!
If you are undecided on unlocking I say go for it. (Assuming you read the tutorials!!) I did and I am much happier.
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what isseues did you have in each firmware ?
and what`s your sn ?
Reboots, bad wifi range, zero GPS, screen flickering, lag in the UI, bad battery life. Some of these issues would come and go depending on the update.
C10 serial.
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I have a C10 also, but with none of the issues you have mentioned other than the gps being totally useless. I'm not that bothered as i don't really need it but it does take the shine off an otherwise excellent product.
Could you let me know if installing a custom rom has made any improvement to your gps performance.
Cheers
Interesting, i was to on the fence about unlocking. I returned my Prime the other day. I've never had wifi probs on any of mine. Just got fed up with random reboot and YouTube glitches and browser freezing. One had dead pixels and light bleed.
Might have to pick up another today. Why not make it 5 lol.
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let me know how you like the virtuous rom. how is the battery life compared to stock? how is the overall speed of device now in your opinion? have you come across any shortcomings on the rom yet? I'm on the fence also but still holding on. I will at least wait till I see more roms. plus I'm really looking for a rom to bring 1.8-2.0Ghz+ speeds. then I might jump the gun if its stable and performs very well.
I think I know the feeling you talking about. its a feeling like you have more control now over the fate of your device now that you can flash new roms at will. did you use rom manager to install official updated CMW or did you use the unofficial method? or the all in one method with viperprimetime 4.5?
glad to hear you feeling more confident about device now that you have the power..lol
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let me know how you like the virtuous rom. how is the battery life compared to stock? how is the overall speed of device now in your opinion? have you come across any shortcomings on the rom yet? I'm on the fence also but still holding on. I will at least wait till I see more roms. plus I'm really looking for a rom to bring 1.8-2.0Ghz+ speeds. then I might jump the gun if its stable and performs very well.
I think I know the feeling you talking about. its a feeling like you have more control now over the fate of your device now that you can flash new roms at will. did you use rom manager to install official updated CMW or did you use the unofficial method? or the all in one method with viperprimetime 4.5?
glad to hear you feeling more confident about device now that you have the power..lol
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This. Yes more control over its fate lol. I tried to use rom manager but it wouldn't work for me. I did use vipers mod to unlock and install cmw. Virtuous is great, very stock feeling and buttery smooth. Ill let you know about the battery after a week or so of testing. I do like the 1.6 ghz overclock being the new performance mode. No screen flicker anymore either! It does seem very stable in the few hours I've tested it. Will update when I can.
Edit: GPS is just as dead as before zero birds.
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I won't get the fuzzy feeling until I can unbrick with nvflash, like with my phone (only not nvflash lol)
But I absolutely understand! 20 minutes after I picked up my phone from the Post Office, it was running custom ROMs (without voiding warranty... bah!). 10 minutes after I picked up my Prime it was rooted
Until then I'm still kind of sitting on a sharp edge with the Prime.
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I won't get the fuzzy feeling until I can unbrick with nvflash, like with my phone
But I absolutely understand! 20 minutes after I picked up my phone from the Post Office, it was running custom ROMs (without voiding warranty... bah!). 10 minutes after I picked up my Prime it was rooted
Until then I'm still kind of sitting on a sharp edge with the Prime.
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Is nvflash an Asus thing or Nvidia? I seen a post asking for it from Asus but are they the right people to ask?
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*EDIT: see lol, figured I was wrong. I was mistaken, but it is what will allow us to recover from some s/w bricking.
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Its strictly a nvidia program supplied by them. I have a version of nvflash for 'Linux for tegra' that supports tegra 3. Problem is, asus's half ass unlock does not allow us to use it even though it could recover what right now would be a hard brick.
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nelly1977 said:
I have a C10 also, but with none of the issues you have mentioned other than the gps being totally useless. I'm not that bothered as i don't really need it but it does take the shine off an otherwise excellent product.
Could you let me know if installing a custom rom has made any improvement to your gps performance.
Cheers
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I'm in the exact boat you are, C1 and no issues besides GPS. Just solved that today with GPS over bluetooth pairing with my Nexus. Ive got no need to unlock with Voodoo rootkeeper, haven't had any issue with Asus' OTA's (.13 had the battery issue but it disappeared for me in .14) and if they want to provide me with frequent updates- I'll take em. To each his own I guess.
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I'm in the exact boat you are, C1 and no issues besides GPS. Just solved that today with GPS over bluetooth pairing with my Nexus. Ive got no need to unlock with Voodoo rootkeeper, haven't had any issue with Asus' OTA's (.13 had the battery issue but it disappeared for me in .14) and if they want to provide me with frequent updates- I'll take em. To each his own I guess.
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Definitely, I'm glad your having great luck with your prime! As far as battery life on vitreous rom, it seems VERY solid. Still no concrete numbers but its been on for about 12 hours with about 5 hours of usage and I have 68% battery. I've ran several benchmarks during this time as well. Seems quite a bit better!
Edit: by the way, I am in no way hating on the prime. I was so excited when I got it (one of bestbuys first batches!!!) But I've just had more problems than is normally acceptable even from a new product. I love my prime so much I'm just disappointed with a few critical features and was hoping Asus could somehow fix these issues. I am a HUGE techie and even though I can get about 27-32 mbs from my prime upstairs, all my other devices get a solid 42 mbs which makes me sad face! Lmao.
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I had the same feeling as the OP, except it was the first day the unlock tool came out.
I had wholly intended on unlocking it right away.
I also love experimenting, learning and tinkering with this, so I've flashed and reflashed about 100 things on my prime so far, and I could not ask for anything more
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Is nvflash an Asus thing or Nvidia? I seen a post asking for it from Asus but are they the right people to ask?
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Its strictly a nvidia program supplied by them. I have a version of nvflash for 'Linux for tegra' that supports tegra 3. Problem is, asus's half ass unlock does not allow us to use it even though it could recover what right now would be a hard brick.
For me the update, while only 24 hours old, has made a world of difference. Gone (so far) is the browser constantly crashing, the random reboots, and the wifi signal dropping randomly. I already loved the Prime, even with those faults, knowing that at some point a ROM or one of the updates would fix those problems. This seems to have done it.
My company is on the verge of purchasing them for all of our consultants, and I had been telling them to wait a bit, I think now I can move forward with the purchase. My question is, has it made the rest of you as happy?
Interesting. What industry are you in? Im in healthcare under IT and theres only 2-3 people with company Tablets ..though they are I-pads =(. I would love to see more tablets bieng productive in the business world and pushed into them as well. THe Prime is good start with the keyboard dock and processing power.
For business consultants wouldn't it be better to have a tablet that has built in data plans? I'm guessing they'd be traveling around a lot, and to assume everyone has available wifi for them is a but presumptuous.
Unless everyone also has a dataplan smartphone for tethering !
For me it has made it much more reliable and stable. I made it through a whole day at school as a laptop replacement. Used Overskreen browser (awesome), pdfs, TED, youtube, gmail, 8tracks, music apps. Everything worked together and it never froze or crashed.
new update has made my prime that much better than the competition.
Better here too, only problem i get is browser lag. Its not totally gone, but its noticeably better to the point where its almost not bothering me now.
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Completely fixed my screen tearing problem, and haven't had any browser problems yet. But I have had one random reboot since the update.
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AnFreud said:
Completely fixed my screen tearing problem, and haven't had any browser problems yet. But I have had one random reboot since the update.
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Same for me, I was scared thinking on the .14 random re bot comebak!!
Much, much better. Screen tearing completely gone, no random reboots yet and gps is working again. Browser is much better, only get the wait or close message once in a long while.
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my prime used to just bob my knob. now it tongues the testes while it bobs the knob. so much better.
am i the only one who had a gmail problem?
i couldn't find anyone having problems with gmail... it would open and i could see the emails... but wouldnt respond to my touch... all i know is the new update fixed that problem... amongst everything else.
After the update I feel it more smooth overall. So I am happy enough with it now that I ordered a leather case for it
They updated the Asus timeline live wallpaper
They added some animation to each of the "scenes" like sun shafts and birds flying toward the sunset one on the Dusk scene.
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For me the update, while only 24 hours old, has made a world of difference. Gone (so far) is the browser constantly crashing, the random reboots, and the wifi signal dropping randomly. I already loved the Prime, even with those faults, knowing that at some point a ROM or one of the updates would fix those problems. This seems to have done it.
My company is on the verge of purchasing them for all of our consultants, and I had been telling them to wait a bit, I think now I can move forward with the purchase. My question is, has it made the rest of you as happy?
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Browsing seems really smooth now and the Splashtop Streamer works very nice as well. Also we probably got the free 8GB AsusWebstorage. And I am sure there is still lots to find. I'll let you know later
Stability really has improved a lot with this update. My browser would crash QUITE frequently before, and I had a few, albeit not many, random reboots. I've used my Prime quite a bit since the update and I haven't witnessed either of those two things yet. The browser is faster and more responsive now than ever before.
market not connecting
Light browser lag yes, and google play/market is not picking up connection...
I've actually had one reboot since updating. I never had any problems with the previous firmware at all. Hopefully that was a one off..
Prime isn't rooted and hasn't been tinkerer with at all
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Definitely has improved my experience. No more screen flickering. Some "wait/close" popups with the browser, but not nearly as many as before. In fact, I don't recall having one at all today. Things seem smoother to me. I look forward to the Prime just getting better and better with future updates.
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After update, i have been noticing that leaving the TP off and later when I pick up the TP, it feels a bit warm on the right upper side top. Also notice that the battery has gone down much quicker as well when just turned off. I don't have much installed, as I just got the TP last Saturday.
Maybe I will just do a hard reset.
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So far with the new firmware I have had the Prime just shut off once and then refuse to start up until it is plugged into charger.
I do experience the occasional hang up on the stock web browser, but everything else seems to be running smoothly so far.
I am hoping that I no longer experience random reboots or the tablet just shutting off because whenever I do I can't get the tablet to start up again until I plug it into the charger.
Posting this in the hope that it might help people who are rooted, but don't want to unlock and install a custom ROM due to the warranty issues, get the most out of their Primes. Also because this info is spread about around the forum and may not otherwise be that easy to find.
These are the 4 steps I took that made my Prime perform like I expected it should. Obviously all credit here remains with the people who did did the work to make these fixes. Thanks guys.
This is for the .21 firmware, but only step 3 should be firmware dependant, the first two should work regardless I think (tell me if I'm wrong).
1. Install this (thanks to TheOnionKnight):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25286407&postcount=61
2. Install this (thanks to saturn_de) and select the cfq scheduler:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473520
3. Install this (thanks demandarin):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647357
4. Cold boot
After these steps everything runs smoothly, even when installing Apps from the Market, I never get a browser hang with the stock browser, all games work nearly flawlessly and I have yet to have a random reboot.
It goes without saying that YMMV, but hopefully this helps someone.
I have had my prime for about a month and have not heard anything about atp tweaks. Can you tell me why I need it?
I have all them on my Prime which help my Prime flying. There is a thread that MCCANDY started for limiting numbers of background process at most 1 to help your prime more stable.
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I have had my prime for about a month and have not heard anything about atp tweaks. Can you tell me why I need it?
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its a great app. its not necessarily needed but can improve your prime. first it allows you to change the I/O scheduler on prime. You can change it to Cfq, which will improve i/o performance on prime. In other words improve the lag seen from playstore apps installing from market while you doing other things on prime. The scheduler on prime is noop by default. there are other schedulers you can test out also.
then atp tweaks also adds modules/drivers for devices not supported by prime, out the box. other things it adds support for also.
best way to make it work like it should is take it out of the box and turn it on. No root needed.
everything else done like rom flashing, kernel flashing, atp tweaks, changing schedules, build.prop tweaks is all extra to make it work better.
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its a great app. its not necessarily needed but can improve your prime. first it allows you to change the I/O scheduler on prime. You can change it to Cfq, which will improve i/o performance on prime. In other words improve the lag seen from playstore apps installing from market while you doing other things on prime. The scheduler on prime is noop by default. there are other schedulers you can test out also.
then atp tweaks also adds modules/drivers for devices not supported by prime, out the box. other things it adds support for also.
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Thanks, I am surprised nobody seems to talk about it. Even nobody in the sqlite thread has mentioned it. I was watching these boards for a couple of months before I got my prime. I knew there were problems but the solutions are the interesting part. If I wanted a tablet my 3 year old could use I would have kept my Ipad. I got a little burnt when I switched from my HD2 to an LG thrill just based on the specs. Great piece of hardware with no dev support and low interest from most people makes for a very dull device.
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Thanks, I am surprised nobody seems to talk about it. Even nobody in the sqlite thread has mentioned it. I was watching these boards for a couple of months before I got my prime. I knew there were problems but the solutions are the interesting part. If I wanted a tablet my 3 year old could use I would have kept my Ipad. I got a little burnt when I switched from my HD2 to an LG thrill just based on the specs. Great piece of hardware with no dev support and low interest from most people makes for a very dull device.
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Yeah, even though some on the other thread have said that the default noop scheduler is in theory better for these kinds of devices I find that the cfq scheduler does actually give a decent boost to responsiveness when the prime is trying to do background io.
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Thanks, I am surprised nobody seems to talk about it. Even nobody in the sqlite thread has mentioned it. I was watching these boards for a couple of months before I got my prime. I knew there were problems but the solutions are the interesting part. If I wanted a tablet my 3 year old could use I would have kept my Ipad. I got a little burnt when I switched from my HD2 to an LG thrill just based on the specs. Great piece of hardware with no dev support and low interest from most people makes for a very dull device.
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well the cfq sheduler improves the lag, but not 100%. maybe a combination of everything the OP stated does. its worth looking into but the new build is supposed to drop sometime this week, according to gary new update.
Yeah it's not completely flawless even with the cfq scheduler, but I do believe it is better.
The one I'm surprised that isn't more discussed is browser2ram. As far as I can see it's just buried on page 5 of a thread or something and for me it completely resolved the most annoying issue I had, which was the stock browser hangs.
just installed and did a quick test using cfq (after a reboot) installed 7 updates in record time. Hmm
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fatski said:
Yeah it's not completely flawless even with the cfq scheduler, but I do believe it is better.
The one I'm surprised that isn't more discussed is browser2ram. As far as I can see it's just buried on page 5 of a thread or something and for me it completely resolved the most annoying issue I had, which was the stock browser hangs.
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It does make the other browsers usable, that's for sure. I hate the tiny font on the best browser (opera mobile) my corneas are hardening.
When the .28 update arrives, should we replace the modded build.prop with the stock one before updating? Or will we be okay to update with it?
whycali said:
Thanks, I am surprised nobody seems to talk about it. Even nobody in the sqlite thread has mentioned it. I was watching these boards for a couple of months before I got my prime. I knew there were problems but the solutions are the interesting part. If I wanted a tablet my 3 year old could use I would have kept my Ipad. I got a little burnt when I switched from my HD2 to an LG thrill just based on the specs. Great piece of hardware with no dev support and low interest from most people makes for a very dull device.
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CFQ was actually noticed, however this has nothing to do with Sqlite.
In fact CFQ does not improve sqlite performance nor does it improve IO performance in terms of speed. OK it removes part of the lag when installing stuff an browsing the web. But at the end operations will take just as long since it just priorizes stuff differently.
what of step #3...? which build prop do i download. tried downloaded one directly onto the prime & it wouldn't allow me to unzip it. first two steps went great though. lol
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xTRICKYxx said:
When the .28 update arrives, should we replace the modded build.prop with the stock one before updating? Or will we be okay to update with it?
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it should be fine but you can put back the original one to be on the safe side.
jussumguy88 said:
what of step #3...? which build prop do i download. tried downloaded one directly onto the prime & it wouldn't allow me to unzip it. first two steps went great though. lol
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if you running the stock rom, you download whatever version matches your prime. for example if your version is U.S., you download the first one. yes it is a zip file. you download it. then unzip it and the modded build.prop file should be inside. then make sure you put it in /system. But you do need root to use this mod and make sure to set permissions of new build.prop correctly. then make sure to rename old build.prop(by it looking like this"build.prop.bak") & backing it up to somewhere safe(just in case it needs to get pushed back in). then reboot and the modded build.prop should take effect. just make sure to read instructions in first post of my thread thoroughly.
but you might as well wait for update to drop. I will be updating that thread eventually with a build.prop that reflects the new update coming. if you don't plan on updating, feel free to try it out then.
I've been waiting to see how this Jelly Bean update is working out for people. I'm unlocked and rooted very close to jumping in.My biggest gripes has been the browser ANR's and sub par Wifi. However I'm good with my Prime for the most part...Which is why I've been reluctant to flash new any of the latest Jelly Bean Roms. I'm aware I can NFlash and revert back ((I think) but prefer to get the feedback anyways.
I know there's a few forums about what people think since the update but this thread is basically to see who updated to Jelly Bean and wished they stayed on ICS because they have new issues, or just hasn't noticed much of a difference. Moderators feel free to fix anything I may have missed since its a poll.
Thanks
I had many many browser ANRs on ICS and after moving to CM10 they are all gone . As you are unlocked I think you should try it by yourself if it fits you (do nvflash before just in case). Wifi seems to me unchanged (ie not better).
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My Prime never had that much problems to begin with, but sometimes I had some ANR and my Wifi didnt download stuff fast and sometimes disconnected, but rarely. Since JB I never got ANR and in the beginning I was getting some reboot, I still have an issue with my ADW Launcher it was working correctly before update, but now sometimes icons are weirdly displayed, but I blame them cause now its listed as incompatible and before it was listed compatible with the Prime. Yesterday I installed Bards Tale and downloaded the 3.5 Gig version and the download of tha additional data was very fast.
SO overall my tablet is better with JB
I'm not fully satisfied with the actual upgrade process as it bricked my Prime. But I am satisfied with Asus RMA service who fixed it very quickly (at no charge).
JB itself seems slightly snappier, but not significantly so. Also what I'm seeing may be more the factory reset and less the actual Project Butter. And it feels like they slightly shortened some animation times (something I already did on some phones before, by using Settings -> Development options), which of course makes it feel slightly faster. Google Now is a bit lackluster so far, but it's not something I intended to use anyway. Voice-based keyboard is a nice touch, and great that it works offline, but more gimmicky than useful to me.
There's nothing really wrong with it so far though. In that regard, I'm satisfied with the update and don't need ICS back. However, judging from the lack of real improvements, I think I'm not going to update my S3 to JB any day soon - I'm not missing out on anything really, and don't want to risk any compatibility issues.
Sjaakbanaan said:
I'm not fully satisfied with the actual upgrade process as it bricked my Prime. But I am satisfied with Asus RMA service who fixed it very quickly (at no charge).
JB itself seems slightly snappier, but not significantly so. Also what I'm seeing may be more the factory reset and less the actual Project Butter. And it feels like they slightly shortened some animation times (something I already did on some phones before, by using Settings -> Development options), which of course makes it feel slightly faster. Google Now is a bit lackluster so far, but it's not something I intended to use anyway. Voice-based keyboard is a nice touch, and great that it works offline, but more gimmicky than useful to me.
There's nothing really wrong with it so far though. In that regard, I'm satisfied with the update and don't need ICS back. However, judging from the lack of real improvements, I think I'm not going to update my S3 to JB any day soon - I'm not missing out on anything really, and don't want to risk any compatibility issues.
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My Prime on JB is way faster. But, JB on my S3 is amazing. So smooth. I'm running AOKP and i dont regret it.
I appreciate this. Especially since I had forgot where I had read somewhere else about some of the apps aren't compatible..Yet. Overall per the poll though I, MOST ppl are happy with the update. I'm considering figuring out how to flash this NVflash to be able to give this a shot and revert back if I'm not happy. I actually flashed CM10 art 1 point but didnt like the fact it didnt stream audio via HDMI.
I also just read the WIFI Tether is not working with Transformer Prime? Is this true for anyone else..That would be a deal breaker for me. I like having WIFI wherever I bring the tablet.
Keep the feedback coming!
I also just read the WIFI Tether is not working with Transformer Prime? Is this true for anyone else..That would be a deal breaker for me. I like having WIFI wherever I bring the tablet.
Wifi tether does work with jellybean I use it when I'm out to play the shadow gun beta you have to have internet connection.
I absolutely hate the JB update After flashing and doing the factory reset, there is noticable sluggishness on the launcher and app drawer without forcing GPU rendering. Feel like the whole point of "Project Butter" is that it should just work.
The onscreen keyboard responsiveness is awful and a huge step back from ICS. I'm no longer able to touch type quickly as trying to do so on JB will result in many missed characters. I became proficient at typing on the keyboard, I shouldn't have to step back in order to just be able to type words without missing characters.
Losing the ability to use my synched bookmarks from Chrome is a pain in the neck.
Game performance is hugely impacted by JB on the Prime. GTA3 is pretty much unplayable on JB!
Looking now into unlocking and flashing to an ICS rom as I feel like my tablet is now in the worst state it's ever been. The stability of the browser is great don't get me wrong but for all of the functionality I've essentially lost to get that, it just isn't worth it.
My prime experience with jelly bean has been great. Not perfect, but in comparison to ICS, it has been great
Well, when I updated to JB with a locked bootloader and lost root, JB wasn't all that great: still some ANRs and a lot of lag. I just recently unlocked, regained root, and installed all my mods: since then JB really is a godsend. Browser is ridiculously quick and scrolling is unbelievable (browser2ram). Overall feel is definitely improved.
Biggest gripe is the HDMI out got porked, and the backspace issue isn't fun either. But dear lord it's so much smoother than ICS (all my animations are set to .5x), in all respects. Still lags when installing apps, but doesn't come to a halt like ICS.
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good info! Also seems ppl are more happy with the update by the poll. I guess I've been paranoid for nothing. Although I can also see why it may still be a good idea to have NVFlash.
Lyvewire said:
good info! Also seems ppl are more happy with the update by the poll. I guess I've been paranoid for nothing. Although I can also see why it may still be a good idea to have NVFlash.
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Same boat. Thanks for the thread.
no doubt, JB is better (especially HB) :angel: