So. What now?
There is few - non-complete - ICS roms for the htc flyer, but nothing good enough for daily use.
We didn't even get android 4 before android 5 was out... :crying:
Drew Garen is apparently working on ICS. Maybe he should be asked to try to work on Jellybean instead?
What do you think? Will it be harder to get Jellybean? Will it ever be done?
I think you should just give it up. What makes you think we ll get 4.1,if like you said we don't even have a good ics Rom. If you realy want buy a nexus 7. It's 199 so the price is very reasonable
I'm pretty confident that Chaos is going to get his ICS build perfected with everything working, I mean, look how far he has gotten so far. I wouldn't count on DG though. Too many broken promises.
As for Jellybean. The source code isn't even released yet. Just the update for the galaxy nexus and the sdk. Sdk ports will never be as good as source builds so forget about that. When the source is released for JB I don't think it will be too hard to get an AOSP build going seeing as we already have a good ICS build. The leap wasn't as big from ICS to JB as it was from GB to ICS. So in theory, we will probably get JB (I can't speak for the other developers) sometime after the source is released.
So just sit back, be patient and keep track of any news
This is getting silly. Really! I think it is best to just cut the loses & buy something new. I think the turn around for new OS'a is shortening. I mean ICS isn't even a year old. I've learnt my lesson.
My next contract will only be 12 months. & I will dump the limping HTC brand for something else. That way I won't be disappointed.
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j510 said:
I think you should just give it up. What makes you think we ll get 4.1,if like you said we don't even have a good ics Rom. If you realy want buy a nexus 7. It's 199 so the price is very reasonable
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I was kind of hoping DG would actually do something...
However, I have been positively surprised with other developers before. Honestly I don't want another tablet either.
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I'm pretty confident that Chaos is going to get his ICS build perfected with everything working, I mean, look how far he has gotten so far. I wouldn't count on DG though. Too many broken promises.
As for Jellybean. The source code isn't even released yet. Just the update for the galaxy nexus and the sdk. Sdk ports will never be as good as source builds so forget about that. When the source is released for JB I don't think it will be too hard to get an AOSP build going seeing as we already have a good ICS build. The leap wasn't as big from ICS to JB as it was from GB to ICS. So in theory, we will probably get JB (I can't speak for the other developers) sometime after the source is released.
So just sit back, be patient and keep track of any news
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Yes, I suppose all hope is lost with DG. A shame he was given money to do it, when he couldn't. Anyways, I hope we get either...
MrS600L said:
This is getting silly. Really! I think it is best to just cut the loses & buy something new. I think the turn around for new OS'a is shortening. I mean ICS isn't even a year old. I've learnt my lesson.
My next contract will only be 12 months. & I will dump the limping HTC brand for something else. That way I won't be disappointed.
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I personally want to use my device as long as the hardware is okay. (I still have my HTC hero, haha.) I think the lesson here is to buy a device that has loads of rom developers.
Anyways, thanks for all the replies!
Man everyone is obsessing over jelly bean...why? It's a minor update.. its a miracle chaos got ics running on this device, asking for jelly bean is a new monster. Id rather the focus be on getting ics perfect for the tablet than start over on a new monster. And idk about jelly beans New tablet mode, Id prefer the tablet ui that was introduced with honeycomb.
Thing is google cranks out new android versions quickly. People won't keep this tab forever, including developers. So the best possible experience that takes full advantage of the flyers hardware needs to be the goal not desperately trying to scrape together parts to get another version of android on the tab. Really I'm fine with honeycomb aside from the lag, and ioiwillio is working on that and so far so good
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I think I'd rather get ICS running properly too.
Jelly Bean does not have a landscape home screen, which is weird.
The emphasis on voice and search is getting too much for me too. I feel like Jelly Bean was designed to collect information about you. It is getting too big brotherish.
It sounds great to get a Nexus 7 maybe 16g at least. I don't know if they have sdcard slot, that would awesome. The HTC EVO View still has great potential as a school tool. I take it everywhere take notes, make beats, do homework, watch movies, listen to music, text everyone and email. I hardly carry my phone to school or laptop. I think its still very functional, even the Gingerbread works fine on this device. I can even code. It's definitively not a 12 core that I treasure so much as to not carry it outside my home in sunny Southern California.
I would rather use telepathy but I'm stuck in a Dark Age.
Big Bro indeed. As much as I like Google, their goal of collecting all information is frightening. Information is power - someone with too much power is a tyrant.
I would rather use telepathy but I'm stuck in a Dark Age.
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I'm pretty confident that Chaos is going to get his ICS build perfected with everything working, I mean, look how far he has gotten so far. I wouldn't count on DG though. Too many broken promises.
As for Jellybean. The source code isn't even released yet. Just the update for the galaxy nexus and the sdk. Sdk ports will never be as good as source builds so forget about that. When the source is released for JB I don't think it will be too hard to get an AOSP build going seeing as we already have a good ICS build. The leap wasn't as big from ICS to JB as it was from GB to ICS. So in theory, we will probably get JB (I can't speak for the other developers) sometime after the source is released.
So just sit back, be patient and keep track of any news
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AS Gumby said earlier i do not think it is too hard to do, i am not even sure it requires Kernel changes in order to get it working, i believe that it can share the same kernel as AOSP ICS, however don't quote me on this. I will have a look at this with whoever decides to develop
@Gumby you up for this ? ?
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lawguy said:
I think I'd rather get ICS running properly too.
Jelly Bean does not have a landscape home screen, which is weird.
The emphasis on voice and search is getting too much for me too. I feel like Jelly Bean was designed to collect information about you. It is getting too big brotherish.
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This could be fixed i believe, (Not by me) as i don't really know much about the APK's at all. But i beleive it is possible, the same code from an ICS lockscreen apk would work and also i believe a lot of the ICS APK's would work as this is not a major API level only a slight step up, however i could be incorrect.
Yeah actually the 10 inch layout for jellybean is classic honeycomb style and they've already found out on the nexus tablet its just a matter of rooting and changing the dpi
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Yeah actually the 10 inch layout for jellybean is classic honeycomb style and they've already found out on the nexus tablet its just a matter of rooting and changing the dpi
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Do you have a link for that??
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not an exact link but I have the thread where it's discussed. They cracked open the sdk and found out that info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736841
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not an exact link but I have the thread where it's discussed. They cracked open the sdk and found out that info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736841
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According to what I have been reading an ICS kernel will work with a jellybean rom so I might start working on that soon
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According to what I have been reading an ICS kernel will work with a jellybean rom so I might start working on that soon
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cool. with a jelly bean rom I might just keep the flyer and pass on the nexus all together!
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This could be fixed i believe, (Not by me) as i don't really know much about the APK's at all. But i beleive it is possible, the same code from an ICS lockscreen apk would work and also i believe a lot of the ICS APK's would work as this is not a major API level only a slight step up, however i could be incorrect.
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Yes. It seems like I am wrong about it anyway. There IS a landscape mode in the UI.
I am thinking about ordering one. It is a shame because the Flyer has better hardware in some respects (rear camera, SD slot, MHL support). But, Nexus 7 hardware is good enough and, most importantly, it has Google supporting it so we will surely get timely software updates for a while at least. Also, I am sure that there will be a ton of Dev activity becasue this is a Google product and will probably be at least moderately successful.
Hope the community of flyer grow stronger and stronger. Anyway it is not old enough to die, with all this, All the flyer will have a longer life:fingers-crossed:
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According to what I have been reading an ICS kernel will work with a jellybean rom so I might start working on that soon
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We need a ICS kernel first, and I was pretty sure the framework changes were rather intensive.
From what I can gather, the changes between HC and ICS and hell compared to the minor update from ICS to JB. If we can get a working ICS build for the Flyer, JB will seem like a piece of cake.
Back to the UI discussion, I'm actually a fan of the layout on the Nexus 7. It's actually more of a traditional phone layout which would work much better on the Flyer if the soft keys were disabled and we could go back to the hardware keys. It would free up the bottom of the screen and give us more usable space.
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From what I can gather, the changes between HC and ICS and hell compared to the minor update from ICS to JB. If we can get a working ICS build for the Flyer, JB will seem like a piece of cake.
Back to the UI discussion, I'm actually a fan of the layout on the Nexus 7. It's actually more of a traditional phone layout which would work much better on the Flyer if the soft keys were disabled and we could go back to the hardware keys. It would free up the bottom of the screen and give us more usable space.
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I'm kinda thinking that too. Ideally what I think would be perfect for the flyer is a launcher with a honeycomb layout that auto rotates to both portrait and landscape and has no dock and the apps and search bar up top just like honeycomb. Then you have the notification bar up top, virtual keys disabled, and hardware keys enabled and bam perfect flyer layout!
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SO who's gonna be upgrading to the Amaze 4G ??
I wouldn't mind.. but will wait a little. Still like my MYTOUCH 4G. Just upset with t-mobile service.. highly disappointed.
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In order for me to purchase another device it has to be rooted with s off already accomplished. I love the mt4g way to much right now.
Nah, even if it was rooted. Even though the specs are a little bit better than the Sensation I'd still rather get the Sensation because all of the good devs already jumped to the Sensation.
I'd be surprised if a lot of devs went to the Amaze. Probably going to be a similar situation with the SGS4G when all of the devs were already on the Vibrant, no point in getting the SGS4G.
Good phone though, just wish that's what HTC did with the Sensation. The 1GB of RAM and better camera is nice.
Nope. The specs are all that. I'd need more to make me jump to a new phone.
ill prolly pick it up, but not when it first comes out. i love my phone but id like to have something with a little bigger screen and soft keys
The device just looks so damn good though. I'm thinking about it hard.
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I hope the reported weight is wrong.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4097&idPhone2=3922
Sensation is only 148 g, but Amaze/Ruby is 172.9 g?? Seems unwieldy.
Weight ain't an issue for me. Weight will make it feel even sturdier.
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coupetastic-droid said:
Weight ain't an issue for me. Weight will make it feel even sturdier.
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I guess everyone has their preferences. For me, a heavy phone has additional associated costs in terms of the jeans pockets that will get worn out!
cmstlist said:
I guess everyone has their preferences. For me, a heavy phone has additional associated costs in terms of the jeans pockets that will get worn out!
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Then wear dickies...kidding lol.
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I hope the reported weight is wrong.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4097&idPhone2=3922
Sensation is only 148 g, but Amaze/Ruby is 172.9 g?? Seems unwieldy.
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Could be due to the extra 210mA's in the Amaze's battery?
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Nope. The specs are all that. I'd need more to make me jump to a new phone.
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+1
Specs isn't the only important thing....The G2X had good HW, but had some hw flaws like bleeding among other things.
Personally, this close to the launch of Ice Cream Sandwich, I'd be inclined to wait until HTC's first ICS phone. Or until CM8 has a stable release for a device of choice
I'm gonna wait for the nexus prime.
cray.
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Personally, this close to the launch of Ice Cream Sandwich, I'd be inclined to wait until HTC's first ICS phone. Or until CM8 has a stable release for a device of choice
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i don't think there will be a CM8 as the developer of cyanogenmod has gone to work at Samsung.
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i don't think there will be a CM8 as the developer of cyanogenmod has gone to work at Samsung.
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Steve still works with CM, it's just a separate project now, it may have less work from cyan himself. However you can't forget that CM has a large amount of devs, Cyan has help from others so I doubt they would actually allow CM brand to die off like this.
Well perhaps working at Sammy will give Steve a chance to make sure ICS reaches other their other phones quickly
Considering that CM just announced it would support 10 new Sony Ericsson devices, I take that as a sign that we won't see CM winding down anytime soon.
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Well perhaps working at Sammy will give Steve a chance to make sure ICS reaches other their other phones quickly
Considering that CM just announced it would support 10 new Sony Ericsson devices, I take that as a sign that we won't see CM winding down anytime soon.
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Since Steve works with Sammy now I'm thinking that he could be learning new or different tweaks, Sammy should have some sort of ICS access (Sammy should have it by now) depending on his job position; so maybe he can work on CM8 slightly earlier. Personally I'm not to thrilled about ICS, after seeing that NexusS w/ "ICS"....It looked nothing like I thought, I figured Google would step it up to fend off iOS5/WP7.5(Mango). But it doesn't seem like much of a UI overhaul, but I'm sure the usability/features have been significantly changed.
I've been sitting on an upgrade since last month so I'm going to use in on the Amaze, even though I was planning to use it on the Sensation.
The announcment of ICS 4.0 was just made if anyone isn't aware. What are the thoughts of ICS comming to the Amaze, and if so, how long before its actually implemented? Im curious to see how the "integrated" buttons on the screen are going to work out with phones that have phyisical captivate buttons. Its probibaly going to require a little modding in order to remove the "buttons" from the software and remap to the phisical buttons. Just another road-block to the destination of a fairly quick update! (Pun intended HTC!)
Sounds like an easy software change really.
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Hmm.. not so sure about that. The way they show-cased it at the event makes it seem as if the "buttons" are a heavy implimintation. For example when you watch a video the buttons disappear and the screen resizes itself to increase the screen size. And there are only three buttons that seem to change funtionwise, depending on what you are doing.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/htc-were-reviewing-ice-cream-sandwich-and-determining-our-plan/
In other words: You'll know. Someday. We're going to dodge that question as long as possible. We have one of the worst histories of updating software for our devices.
For reference, the Flyer still doesn't have Honeycomb although there was a nearly fully functional leak months ago.
JaiaV said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/htc-were-reviewing-ice-cream-sandwich-and-determining-our-plan/
In other words: You'll know. Someday. We're going to dodge that question as long as possible. We have one of the worst histories of updating software for our devices.
For reference, the Flyer still doesn't have Honeycomb although there was a nearly fully functional leak months ago.
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I think HTC is way better then other companies out there when it comes to upgrades, the biggest road block are the service providers in USA
HTC is faster than RIM when it comes to updates
Don't forget that Google requires 18 months of software support from release date of their certified devices.
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HTC is faster than RIM when it comes to updates
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And Samsuck too for that matter.
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And Samsuck too for that matter.
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I'm actually curious how they'll handle it this time around. They totally boned us with the original SGS; now that they've got the lead direct from Google for the next Nexus device maybe they'll actually not be completely useless? I'm not holding my breath though.
I'm pretty sure we'll have it even when its not official. Cyanogenmod or AOSP roms will do the trick, but if you want Sense with it, I don't know...
We will have sense 3.5 ported , CM9 hopefully & AOSP hopefully .
It's looking good ICS well at least the launcher .
http://evervolv.turnertechrepair.info/Clark44/Android4.0-System-Dump.zip
I hope it get';s ported soon
JaiaV said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/htc-were-reviewing-ice-cream-sandwich-and-determining-our-plan/
In other words: You'll know. Someday. We're going to dodge that question as long as possible. We have one of the worst histories of updating software for our devices.
For reference, the Flyer still doesn't have Honeycomb although there was a nearly fully functional leak months ago.
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That's a lie flyer has sense with honeycomb
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Wait tight. Grab a comfy seat ..ics would come to amaze in around 5-6 months. Lol. Ics its Sooo frikin awesome. Can't wait to get my hands on that galaxy nexus.
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has anyone noticed this? system dump for Android 4.1 jellybean is already out. the hacking/creating custom jellybean roms has already begun.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736529
they have it deoxdexed already in that thread.
plus the Samsung galaxy nexus just got the OTA update to jellybean. someone posted the file in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737340
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Nexus 7 system dump. thanks to Zedomax
Http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739147
Could possibly be ported to prime or at least new features pulled from it and implemented into prime roms.
Mods can delete thread if it can't be ported.
Jelly Bean looks pretty dang cool, but I think I'm personally going to wait until there is a stock-based JB ROM. I've tried AOSP-based ROMs on my Prime, and the loss of functionality on the keyboard, as well as the headaches with battery monitoring on the second battery just aren't worth it.
Once Wookie can get his hands on an Asus build of JB, I bet this thing will really come alive.
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You would be far better off waiting for either:
A dump from the Nexus 7 (Which is closer hardware-wise)
Waiting for source to be pushed to AOSP in a few weeks.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/android-building/BnspdkGvgOE/YaEotqlP4OoJ
SDK ports tend to be as slow as molasses and functionally incomplete as they usually lack the driver support of the proper release.
The HTC One X port from the Galaxy Nexus image is well... As bad as you would expect.
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I've tried AOSP-based ROMs on my Prime, and the loss of functionality on the keyboard, as well as the headaches with battery monitoring on the second battery just aren't worth it
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. I am currently using CM9 and the keyboard functions equally as well as stock. Monitoring of the second battery works perfectly too. This is the case with all the recent releases of the other AOSP roms too. I do not think it will be too long before we have a JB AOSP rom for the Prime. I wish you luck in seeing the same from ASUS. Hopefully sometime next year lol.
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I'm running the Galaxy Nexus JellyBean OTA on my Gnex at the moment, and it is SWEET!
It seems that Project Butter has, for the most part, worked. My Galaxy Nexus has never been as smooth as it is now!
I can't wait for JellyBean to be released on our Primes! If I can stop myself buying a Nexus 7 that is!
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. I am currently using CM9 and the keyboard functions equally as well as stock. Monitoring of the second battery works perfectly too. This is the case with all the recent releases of the other AOSP roms too. I do not think it will be too long before we have a JB AOSP rom for the Prime. I wish you luck in seeing the same from ASUS. Hopefully sometime next year lol.
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That's been the only thing holding me back from flashing an AOSP rom on my Prime, I was worried the keyboard dock wouldn't work or with limited functionality. I might have to give CM9 a go..
Back on topic. Yes looking forward to what JB can bring to the Prime!
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Jellybean port has already hit One X, hopefully we'll get a version soon too.
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. I am currently using CM9 and the keyboard functions equally as well as stock. Monitoring of the second battery works perfectly too. This is the case with all the recent releases of the other AOSP roms too. I do not think it will be too long before we have a JB AOSP rom for the Prime. I wish you luck in seeing the same from ASUS. Hopefully sometime next year lol.
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I haven't tried CM9, but on AOKP and EOS, the extra tweaks for things like the keyboard unlock that Asus baked in are missing. I use mine for taking notes pretty frequently, and I like to be able to turn the screen on and off with the keyboard. That was never an option with AOKP or EOS. I recognize that it's a small issue for most people, but it was a deal-breaker for me. The ROMs that I was running didn't have a dual-battery guage, either, unless you wanted a big ugly widget on one of your home screens to tell you how your dock battery is doing. I also missed the quick OC settings that are in the stock-based FW.
Namidairo said:
You would be far better off waiting for either:
A dump from the Nexus 7 (Which is closer hardware-wise)
Waiting for source to be pushed to AOSP in a few weeks.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/android-building/BnspdkGvgOE/YaEotqlP4OoJ
SDK ports tend to be as slow as molasses and functionally incomplete as they usually lack the driver support of the proper release.
The HTC One X port from the Galaxy Nexus image is well... As bad as you would expect.
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Theres already a nexus 7 system dump. thanks to Zedomax. he has a nexus 7 in his possession.
Http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739147
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I haven't tried CM9, but on AOKP and EOS, the extra tweaks for things like the keyboard unlock that Asus baked in are missing. I use mine for taking notes pretty frequently, and I like to be able to turn the screen on and off with the keyboard. That was never an option with AOKP or EOS. I recognize that it's a small issue for most people, but it was a deal-breaker for me. The ROMs that I was running didn't have a dual-battery guage, either, unless you wanted a big ugly widget on one of your home screens to tell you how your dock battery is doing. I also missed the quick OC settings that are in the stock-based FW.
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Fair 'nuff. It's funny how everyone has their list of deal-breakers, myself included.
Sorry for the off-topic. Hopefully someone will be able to use this system dump to make something very cool in the not too distant future
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Jelly Bean looks pretty dang cool, but I think I'm personally going to wait until there is a stock-based JB ROM. I've tried AOSP-based ROMs on my Prime, and the loss of functionality on the keyboard, as well as the headaches with battery monitoring on the second battery just aren't worth it.
Once Wookie can get his hands on an Asus build of JB, I bet this thing will really come alive.
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i have no idea what rom you were trying but there is no loss of keyboard functionality on AOKP nor any battery problems.
demandarin
Not to push you or anything but did you take a look how we can get Jellybean for our Prime by using the Nexus 7 files?
Can we already begin porting or do we have to wait for the source code?
zummer22 said:
demandarin
Not to push you or anything but did you take a look how we can get Jellybean for our Prime by using the Nexus 7 files?
Can we already begin porting or do we have to wait for the source code?
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a port can be made but might need work. likely people will use parts of it and implement it.
There is a factory image of nexus 7 here
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasi
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ZebTheCalvinist said:
I haven't tried CM9, but on AOKP and EOS, the extra tweaks for things like the keyboard unlock that Asus baked in are missing. I use mine for taking notes pretty frequently, and I like to be able to turn the screen on and off with the keyboard. That was never an option with AOKP or EOS. I recognize that it's a small issue for most people, but it was a deal-breaker for me. The ROMs that I was running didn't have a dual-battery guage, either, unless you wanted a big ugly widget on one of your home screens to tell you how your dock battery is doing. I also missed the quick OC settings that are in the stock-based FW.
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Except keyboard wake up you have all the rest in CM9. Bt this is off-topic. Running 30th june nightly.
Just a matter of time now!! Have not unlock my prime yet but I will if a port becomes available before an official update.
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Just a matter of time now!! Have not unlock my prime yet but I will if a port becomes available before an official update.
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actually it's a matter of some dev willing to spend his spare time and sharing the result with us.
anyways we'll see. i think an official update or AOSP version is available anywhere soon.
We wait for 4.1 release tag to drop.
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I just read and saw a video of an Acer a500 getting 4.1 JB ported over.
Oh Yea!!!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/09/android-4-1-jelly-bean-released-to-aosp-right-now/
So guys since all revolves around the buck, i think that we should start a e.g kickstarter for htc flyer ICS or jelly bean update, if we get a reasonable found htc could make it for us..
I shall send them a email asking what they think about it and how much would they need, kep you updated
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So guys since al revolves around the buck, i think that we should start a e.g kickstarter for htc flyer ICS or jelly bean update, if we get a reasonable found htc could make it for us..
I shall send them a email asking what they thing about it and how much wouldbthey need, kep you updated
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Seems like a neat idea. Hope you are able to work it out.
Problem would be that they would never say that it's about cost, because they have already said that it is about performance, at least through unofficial channels.....
Best of luck!
I think something in the range of $10 million US would be a good starting point for HTC. Considering they paid $300 million for a glorified equalizer (Beats).
What are we doing exactly? I'm confused
I think the proposal is to pay HTC to support their own device !
I don't think it will work.
It will be funny to see what they say though - cos' they should be ashamed....
Top marks to the OP for taking the game back to HTC ...
Lol I don't think all 250 of us will be able to raise enough money
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Yea...um...Nexus 7 anyone?
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I'll be getting one eventually but in the meantime think its time to just make the most out of what we have with the flyer. Senseless, the best honeycomb rom, and LISBON, the only AOSP ICS Rom we have. Could be worse, we could have Views lol.
Anyway for the time being lets all just give up on Jelly bean and focus on what we have. I've complained more than anyone, but I'm over that, I'm all about helping where ever I can to make sure the flyer experience doesn't suck. And besides, the whole portrait oriented nature of Jelly bean makes me kind of want to pass on it anyway.
I gotta thank Wadegeek for calling me out for being such a crybaby. Honestly the flyer is only as bad as you make it out to be. And updates are over-rated, a perfectly fast working honeycomb is as good as any ics or jellybean rom...well minus support for chrome that is lol.
and its just beyond time to give up on htc. The writing is on the wall, HTC is done making them, done supporting them, and betting their future on the one series. Any future updates will have to come from ourselves.
And seeing how little signatures we got on the petition shows why htc gave up on it. The flyer was a flop. Like the Apple Newton, Nintendo Virtual Boy, Sega Saturn, HD Radio its a flop. but difference is its open source android so we can do something about it.
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Cor-master said:
I'll be getting one eventually but in the meantime think its time to just make the most out of what we have with the flyer. Senseless, the best honeycomb rom, and LISBON, the only AOSP ICS Rom we have. Could be worse, we could have Views lol.
Anyway for the time being lets all just give up on Jelly bean and focus on what we have. I've complained more than anyone, but I'm over that, I'm all about helping where ever I can to make sure the flyer experience doesn't suck. And besides, the whole portrait oriented nature of Jelly bean makes me kind of want to pass on it anyway.
I gotta thank Wadegeek for calling me out for being such a crybaby. Honestly the flyer is only as bad as you make it out to be. And updates are over-rated, a perfectly fast working honeycomb is as good as any ics or jellybean rom...well minus support for chrome that is lol.
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Agree，all we need is a good enough rom that we can use everyday without turning into rage.
Senseless and lisbon is getting close to that. Forget HTC, they already get ride of the flyer.....I doubt whether the flyer team exist now.
Ok people time to grow up a bit. I don't get this endless rage against HTC for "ignoring" the Flyer, I really don't. You guys act like you got burned when HTC didn't update the Flyer to ICS, but last I checked they never promised they would. Nobody ever said "Oh yeah buy a Flyer/View, it'll get ICS." If somebody had told you that I'd get the anger, but I seriously doubt they did. So enough with the *****ing, and saying "HTC should be ashamed" crap, it's pointless and worthless. This is yet another thread that has gotten de-railed with it, so unless you guys have something to add to the kickstart effort take it to your own thread or PM or something.
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Ok people time to grow up a bit. I don't get this endless rage against HTC for "ignoring" the Flyer, I really don't. You guys act like you got burned when HTC didn't update the Flyer to ICS, but last I checked they never promised they would. Nobody ever said "Oh yeah buy a Flyer/View, it'll get ICS." If somebody had told you that I'd get the anger, but I seriously doubt they did. So enough with the *****ing, and saying "HTC should be ashamed" crap, it's pointless and worthless. This is yet another thread that has gotten de-railed with it, so unless you guys have something to add to the kickstart effort take it to your own thread or PM or something.
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"MOMMY WOW, I'M A BIG KID NOW"
on a side note please throw your money at my kickstart, I'm making an ICS Rom for the Nokia 8250.
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Agree，all we need is a good enough rom that we can use everyday without turning into rage.
Senseless and lisbon is getting close to that. Forget HTC, they already get ride of the flyer.....I doubt whether the flyer team exist now.
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So should we.maby find a badass dev here at xda, pay him a few bills and let him make us a 100% working rom?
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"MOMMY WOW, I'M A BIG KID NOW"
on a side note please throw your money at my kickstart, I'm making an ICS Rom for the Nokia 8250.
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Huh? Trying to make a point or something? I don't get it...
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So should we.maby find a badass dev here at xda, pay him a few bills and let him make us a 100% working rom?
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A lot of these guys have been there and done that, look in one of the DrewGaren threads. What's wrong with being a little patient and letting Chaosz-X do his thing? I mean if anyone around here deserves donations it's him.
I love android for allot of reasons. Roms and tweaking was and is a big one. I had a captivate which I loved but I sold it when my company decided to buy me an iPhone and pay my cell bill. I hate iOS and missed android so when best buy reduced the cost on the flyer I jumped on it. The flyer has been a disappointment flashing wise to me (no fault to the developers here, work much appreciated). On the other hand my flyer has paid for itself multiple times over and is used daily for streaming and it's mhl connection.
What I have learned is that I like htc build quality but that their support sucks and that IMO sense is a way too large, bloated, laggy android skin that makes development more of an issue.
Do I regret buying my flyer, no. Would I buy another htc device, unlikely. Do I expect that I will see versions of ics/jelly bean that work for my use, no. I am ok with that now, but the device fell short of my flashing addiction
sense sucks on the flyer because it's not the full sense you get from a phone, it's a special "sense 1.1 for tablets",and honeycomb is laggy naturally, it's pretty much a throw away os google came up with for a better tablet layout and combine sense with that and it's even worse. But honestly I love sense 3.6 on my vivid, theme support, and multiple homescreen layouts make sense great.
I like my flyer honestly. Getting caught up in the update thing can easily make you hate it but we got some good developers here that are working hard to improve it.
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What I have learned is that I like htc build quality but that their support sucks and that IMO sense is a way too large, bloated, laggy android skin that makes development more of an issue.
Do I regret buying my flyer, no. Would I buy another htc device, unlikely. Do I expect that I will see versions of ics/jelly bean that work for my use, no. I am ok with that now, but the device fell short of my flashing addiction
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+1.
HTC flyer awesome potential - the device IS capable of running ICS. HTC "added value" of HTC sense etc seems to have done a dis-service in terms of future upgrades.
It is ironic that more IOS users can run Chrome than Android. Why ? Cos you need ICS or greater and the HTCs of the world just won't support their products for even 18 - 24 months after release.
18 months is a long time in the tech world, and if I had a tablet that flopped like the Flyer I wouldn't be supporting it either. It's not worth their time or money to get ICS out for it, not when it's perfectly functional as is.
The real question is why did HTC even bother making it. It was more expensive than an ipad, had gingerbread instead of honeycomb, and a single core cpu. And they didnt market it bad, they just didnt market it period. But in hindsight really every android tab that came out at that time failed, mostly due to price. Up until this year the only other android tabs I saw other people have were the nook color and cheap Chinese tablets.
I guess I don't hold it against them for abandoning the Flyer anymore. It is what it is, android came to tablets before it was ready for tablets and failure was inevitable. I'd like to see them try again, maybe a one series tablet with sense 4 and an s pen.
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Btw the chrome thing does piss me off. Google needs to make that **** work with gingerbread and honeycomb at least. Google is quick to abandon previous versions of android but you sure don't see them pushing the manufacturers for updates
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OK, so I'm no developer or anything (willing to learn, but I don't want to distract any devs ), but I wanted to get some momentum going for job on our flyers! It looks just amazing! And wth the nexus 7 coming soon, we have a chance to port it I feel! I know that the days of developing on the flyer forum are dark, especially with lee gone for a while as well as others, nut I feel like we can still pull this off! We can start discussions on this forum or merge with the dev ics one, I just felt like we needed the push to do it. God bless everyone developing the flyer, and great job so far, especially with ics Lisbon! Love it! Thanks for reading, I hope you consider this
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OK, so I'm no developer or anything (willing to learn, but I don't want to distract any devs ), but I wanted to get some momentum going for job on our flyers! It looks just amazing! And wth the nexus 7 coming soon, we have a chance to port it I feel! I know that the days of developing on the flyer forum are dark, especially with lee gone for a while as well as others, nut I feel like we can still pull this off! We can start discussions on this forum or merge with the dev ics one, I just felt like we needed the push to do it. God bless everyone developing the flyer, and great job so far, especially with ics Lisbon! Love it! Thanks for reading, I hope you consider this
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AS far as i am aware a port from the nexus 7 would be hard as it is different hardware (CPU MAINLY), this can cause difficulty however it might be worth giving a try but we need to wait until the kernel development king returns (CHAOS) so hopefully he will have some ideas
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AS far as i am aware a port from the nexus 7 would be hard as it is different hardware (CPU MAINLY), this can cause difficulty however it might be worth giving a try but we need to wait until the kernel development king returns (CHAOS) so hopefully he will have some ideas
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Yeah, I knew chaos is on vacation, plus he will have a huge demand on ics Lisbon I imagine too. Maybe future jelly bean builds will be easier to build from too, but I do think this can and should be able to be done!
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Honestly I would just wait until source is out..
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AS far as i am aware a port from the nexus 7 would be hard as it is different hardware (CPU MAINLY), this can cause difficulty however it might be worth giving a try but we need to wait until the kernel development king returns (CHAOS) so hopefully he will have some ideas
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Well, the Tegra 3 is STILL Arm Cortex A9 cores. Only the Qualcomm Snapdragons have slightly different cores like Krait (aka 8960) which might need optimization and I am sure Qualcomm has then and will release their custom kernel when their JB products are in the market.
Just to maintain focus on simpler things in life. I am sure Chaos would appreciate, the momentum of Lisbon 1.2 is there and there is not much more to go really. The only major thing is really BT but that might have restrictions on calling for those with 3G flyer. For wifi only Flyers, keyboard support and headset support would be very welcomed. For people who has used this ROM, they must admit that the experience is greatest ever for any ROM on the working parts. So, if we can get stability and a few more functions working, we are home free!.
For Pen support, I think it is of little priority since the original Pen functionality are limited, so very seldom used.
PS: I would be very keen to see a more updated kernel in the build unless someone says, there is not much in terms of functionality we can expect, nor speed, nor Free RAM. In fact, there has not been a problem with free RAM on the flyer to date that I know of. As it is, this development is already amazing! :victory:
İ will definitely not port a N7 image, very near to impossible. İ will only work on the source code of JB, not using ports.
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İ will definitely not port a N7 image, very near to impossible. İ will only work on the source code of JB, not using ports.
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I hope we get fully working ICS somday... We even dont have that with HC
JellyBean 4.1.1 got released today (winfuture.de News)
Let's ask drew garen
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Let's ask drew garen
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I really hope your joking
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