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http://www.sprintspecialoffers.com/everything/?id12=UhpChp_Billboard_SimplyEverythingPlan
dam wrong thread
well put up the right one then
only IDEN network only?
Dc_striker said:
http://www.sprintspecialoffers.com/everything/?id12=UhpChp_Billboard_SimplyEverythingPlan
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Can someone confirm this:
after a recent call to change my plan to the Simply Everything, i was told this is only for Nextel(IDEN) network. can someone confirm this. thanks
torankusu said:
Can someone confirm this:
after a recent call to change my plan to the Simply Everything, i was told this is only for Nextel(IDEN) network. can someone confirm this. thanks
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I don't think that's accurate. Here's the fine print from the offer. It doesn't mention IDEN at all, and seems to indicate that it works with Sprint's network just fine.
May require up to a $36 activation fee/line, credit approval, deposit and $200 early termination fee/line. Simply Everything Plan: Offer ends 5/31/08. Premium content/downloads (games, ringers, songs, etc.) are an additional charge. Texts to third parties to participate in promotions or other may result in additional charges. Sprint Music includes 150 radio channels. Sprint TV includes over 20 available channels. GPS Navigation includes Sprint Navigation or TeleNav GPS Navigator. GPS reliability varies by environment. International services are not included. E-mail includes use of ActiveSync, MICROSOFT Windows Mobile with Direct Push™, VersaMail, IBM Lotus Notes Traveler® or Blackberry Internet Services (BIS). Direct Connect and Group Connect (20 maximum participants) allows connection to other Nextel Direct Connect subscribers. Offer and service plan features not available in all markets/retail locations or for all phones/networks. Sprint may terminate service if a majority of minutes or a majority of kilobytes in a given month are used while roaming. Services are not available for use as a modem, in connection with server devices or host computer applications, other systems that drive continuous heavy traffic or data sessions, or as substitute for frame relay connections. Other Terms: The Nationwide Sprint Network reaches over 262 million people. The Nextel National Network reaches over 274 million people. The Sprint Mobile Broadband Network reaches over 230 million people. Coverage not available everywhere. Not combinable with other discounts. Other restrictions apply. See store or sprint.com for details. ©2008 Sprint. ©2008 NFL Properties LLC. NASCAR® and the NASCAR logo are registered trademarks of the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing, Inc.
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One caveat though:
Sprint may terminate service if a majority of minutes or a majority of kilobytes in a given month are used while roaming. Services are not available for use as a modem, in connection with server devices or host computer applications, other systems that drive continuous heavy traffic or data sessions, or as substitute for frame relay connections.
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Looks like they reserve the right to kick us off if we use too much data. That just turned me off from the whole idea.
drew826 said:
I don't think that's accurate. Here's the fine print from the offer. It doesn't mention IDEN at all, and seems to indicate that it works with Sprint's network just fine.
One caveat though:
Looks like they reserve the right to kick us off if we use too much data. That just turned me off from the whole idea.
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I think that they state that for ALL their plans that they have the right to kick you off if you use too much data. You might as well go for the $99 plan if you need or want unlimited voice calls to go with your "unlimited" data.
And speaking of "unlimited" data, I need to find a thread here about how NOT to get charged while tethering before I start tethering with the new ROMs.
if that makes you love sprint, get on the sero plan. www.sprint.com/sero
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if that makes you love sprint, get on the sero plan. www.sprint.com/sero
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thats for employees
Unless you know a way for us all to get on it
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=526998
enjoy...
As of last friday I have this plan with my Mogul. Had to call in and argue a bit, but it freakin' rocks. EVDO works, SMS, Email, voicemail... all as advertised.
E-mail Addy?
Does any one happen to have the e-mail address of someone I could use?
http://networxcontract.sprint.com/fedreps.html
I used one from there and it worked. LOL.
Rapheal said:
Does any one happen to have the e-mail address of someone I could use?
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Look at the section labled 4: HOW DO I SIGN UP FOR SERO? on the 1st post of the SD SERO thread. Below is the link to the newest SERO SD thread that hasn't been retired yet.
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=716694
[EDIT] OOPS Virgin Mobile US targetted... sorry... [/EDIT]
My initial investigation into Virgin mobile USA turned up no charge other than minutes for calls in the US/Canada, however recently it appears that VMUSA has changed their tune and now are charging $0.10/m for callt o Canada which is ENTIRELY ridiculous FFS since they're charging MUCH less than that to freaking Mexico City(and other area/countries) and they're a FREAKING F^CKING MAJOR backbone carrier in the US?!
BEWARE of Virgin Mobile and their HIGHLY malleable terms of service. i.e. I purchased their Optimus V on the data that Canada calls were included like US(like MOST reasonable carriers), however upon eventually trying it they appear to have since turned to an ONEROUS per minute rate for calls to Canada while allowing south americans to have their cheap calls to Mexico City and elsewhere.
BEWARE of whom you chose otherwise a seemingly good deal WILL bite you on the @SS. (As much as I REALLY do HATE to say it, stay with reliable, if highly priced carriers like Verizon for coverage and overall rates or PAY the CONSEQUENCES, unfortunately!)
(Best you can do with some ****e like VMUSA is VOIP calls... and you'll be stuck with their extra crap phone offerings while, for example, VM Canada even has iPhones FFS! But lesser calling plans but still overall it's lose-lose-lose...)
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Stay away from androidcentral, bunch of uselss b*stards anyways...
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They craftily phail to list Canada in their sh!tty little pamphlet(US) and they seem to have since 3w agao change ALL of their online page to reference a HORRIFIC $0.10/m charge or calls to Canada in ADDITION to YOUR minutes...
Might be better off in the North to buy a Virgin Canada phone with (MANY)MORE choices and better overall rates than subsidising something else...
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Can these guys REALLY be selling in the US?! ROFLMAO(I wish)....
...so no good REAL plans for the US unless for some reason you want to call Mexico and the US only... *giggle*
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BTW my 3G data rates have been MUCH BELOW optimal, 120kbps up/down (at various times/locations in a "good" coverage area), with ONE time in which I hit 370kbps down/ 320kbps up with speed test pretty crap overall...
This IS Virgin Mobile USA, not Sprint, etc. so your rates will/should likely be higher with those more responsible carriers even IF they have more onerous fees, however they should consequently have MUCH better service...
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Since ICQ is removed now the latest update gave us a smith app. From the looks of it they track data use like the amount of usage . It's more like a throttle to help keep towers from gettin overloaded ..
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Smith.apk is the updated version of htcloggers.apk I broke back end of September - http://infectedrom.com/showthread.ph...rity-Elevation
I'm guessing it may never have been HTC's program, new signatures are not HTC's on the APK. Besides the signature change it looks like the main change was it is not using TCP ports anymore but Unix domain sockets. Everything else is essentially the same app with just a new name.
By default it looks like it looks at battery and CPU speeds? I noted this in the previous apk version as well. It has the capability of enabling System & Battery log collection it appears but I have not dug into it completely still.
It has an option to upload to FTP, but its disabled by default and the only codepath to update it ive seen so far is by dialing a secret code *#*#SMITH#*#* and enabling it.
I do not see anything to do with throttling or anything network related - for now it looks semi harmless outside of wasting some cycles - it just looks like its capable of uploading full system logs if a user checks the box in the menu accessible only by key combo and fills in an FTP address. I do not see a remote enable as of now...
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Smith Micro Software, Inc. (NASDAQ: SMSI), a leading provider of wireless and mobility solutions, today announced that Sprint has selected Mobile Network Director™ to provide traffic management between networks (3G/4G /WiFi) while maintaining a high-quality experience for its subscribers.
Mobile Network Director helps Sprint meet today’s unprecedented growth in mobile data services. The precise, intelligent device controls provided by the solution can selectively manage data traffic in targeted locations during peak traffic periods. Mobile Network Director provides Sprint the ability to adjust network selection on subscribers’ devices as they move between coverage areas, enabling automated and seamless transitions between networks. Battery life on devices is increased since Mobile Network Director can turn on and off device radios as needed.
“While the majority of mobile operators have switched smartphone users to tiered data plans, Sprint is committed to offering our customers the best unlimited data plan in the industry,” said Fared Adib, Vice President of Product Development for Sprint. “Our relationship with Smith Micro Software is instrumental in the execution of that strategy, helping us to optimize our network resources while ensuring the best possible user experience. We’re looking forward to rolling out Mobile Network Director.”
“Improving the customer experience is the motivating force behind Sprint’s choice of our new solution,” said William W. Smith, Jr., President and CEO at Smith Micro Software. “We are excited to provide Sprint with a solution that automatically selects the best network option for the customer. Mobile Network Director makes the use of WiFi much simpler, which is a great convenience for the customer at home and in office environments. Testing has proven that WiFi management can actually improve battery performance as well.”
Sprint conducted extensive end users trials to evaluate the impact of using Mobile Network Director with customers utilizing multiple networks. The analytics proved that Sprint could improve the customer’s network experience through this unique approach and the trial results have been very positive.
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so now we gotta be pissed about that
Mr.Esp said:
so now we gotta be pissed about that
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Gonna see what trev says about it . But from what I have read on there site it looks like a throttle control to keep folks from whoreing a tower like big city's. I live in the sticks lol with great data speeds lol. Never had a issue. Lookin more into it.
Pissed? I think it's a great idea
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I deleted all that junk from the new OTA.
bloodrain954 said:
Pissed? I think it's a great idea
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It looks like a throttle control to keep bandwidth open for everyone not to slow u down just when not in use it shuts ur 3g off when your phone is asleep . To keep data from gettin overloaded with everyone hammering a tower.
Before I removed all of it, I forced it to stop. I lost connectivity for the second before it restarted itself. Same when I deleted it and all its junk. Lost cell service for a second and it came right back.
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Before I removed all of it, I forced it to stop. I lost connectivity for the second before it restarted itself. Same when I deleted it and all its junk. Lost cell service for a second and it came right back.
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So all is functional without it?
(Sprints probably like, "fuhkin hackers and their mods.")
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Rydah805 said:
So all is functional without it?
(Sprints probably like, "fuhkin hackers and their mods.")
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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Yeah, all day I haven't had any issues.
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Wow i also removed the app and speeds are fast i hates the connection time out i was getting those all day and for some odd reason was making not have calls
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So is that the "better battery life" ?
It just shuts off he radio?
Definitely not updating this time either..LOL
I'll go ahead and try things without smith, but better battery is also from removing CIQ
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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I'll go ahead and try things without smith, but better battery is also from removing CIQ
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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Ya there are roms out with the CIQ removed and without the Smith thing. The Smith helps keep things rolling smooth network wise to keep the towers from getting hammered.
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Ya there are roms out with the CIQ removed and without the Smith thing. The Smith shuts off 3g and data when your phone screen is off to keep the towers clutter free till your using it. From the looks of things on there site.
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No it doesn't. Don't spread things about the app like that if your not sure what its doing on our phone. The interface of it is just like htcloggers app that was removed before.
Also if its shutting off 3g data with screen off then no one would get email notifications less screen was on which hasn't been the case here for me at all.
It's best to let TrevE have a few days with this sucker and let him report his findings before anyone starts making claims.
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No it doesn't. Don't spread things about the app like that if your not sure what its doing on our phone. The interface of it is just like htcloggers app that was removed before.
Also if its shutting off 3g data with screen off then no one would get email notifications less screen was on which hasn't been the case here for me at all.
It's best to let TrevE have a few days with this sucker and let him report his findings before anyone starts making claims.
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It does manage bandwidth to keep towers accessible to everyone. Of course, this could only be half the story. Frankly, I don't care seeing as how its nowhere to be found.
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Pandora ran fine with the screen off with smith, but songs did load slower, thus bandwidth management?
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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Pandora ran fine with the screen off with smith, but songs did load slower, thus bandwidth management?
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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Read up on it smithmicro http://www.smithmicro.com/solutions/mobile-cable-operators.aspx
http://www.smithmicro.com/products/mobile-network-director.aspx
http://www.financialpost.com/market...+Smith+Micro+Software+Help/5966368/story.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Micro_Software
So read up and you tell me what you think from what I gathered it is a throttle control .
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No it doesn't. Don't spread things about the app like that if your not sure what its doing on our phone. The interface of it is just like htcloggers app that was removed before.
Also if its shutting off 3g data with screen off then no one would get email notifications less screen was on which hasn't been the case here for me at all.
It's best to let TrevE have a few days with this sucker and let him report his findings before anyone starts making claims.
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Read up on it man Also the folks that clamied 3g shut off probably due to there powersave anyways. I have been testing the new stuff on a unrooted phone. I am also waiting to see what Trev has to say about it.
Im not spreading nothing but facts from the info I found on google
Part of the info from the main post.
Battery life on devices is increased since Mobile Network Director can turn on and off device radios as needed
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Read up on it man Also the folks that clamied 3g shut off probably due to there powersave anyways. I have been testing the new stuff on a unrooted phone. I am also waiting to see what Trev has to say about it.
Im not spreading nothing but facts from the info I found on google
Part of the info from the main post.
Battery life on devices is increased since Mobile Network Director can turn on and off device radios as needed
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I know believe me, I'm just saying the way you worded it made it seem like it deff was going on which is far from fact less you know something I dont. And with that kinda talk ppl will assume it is and start *****ing when in fact there could be nothing wrong at all going on.
Just think its best to wait for TrevE to report on it all.
I know what their stuff can do but we don't even know really what it is set up to do right now.
Off hand the director sounds better to be dealing with how networkvision works with the phones. It says it only shuts off 3g when it can be offloaded to WiFi and 4G too anyway.
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I got a Photon 4g, and I wanna know if there's anyway I can have simultaneous voice/data on 3G, I know its possible over "4G" (Wimax), and I really don't wanna buy a new phone outright. Will SVDO work on the Photon anywhere?
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I got a Photon 4g, and I wanna know if there's anyway I can have simultaneous voice/data on 3G, I know its possible over "4G" (Wimax), and I really don't wanna buy a new phone outright. Will SVDO work on the Photon anywhere?
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To my knowledge this is not possible. Would be hella useful though.
only way is if "voice" if via VOIP such as google voice, skype or SIP provider.
I do it all day! WiFi and I talk and di email and FB! L
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i still don't get it, how in the world is this actually useful? should you focus be to the other person you're talking to?
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i still don't get it, how in the world is this actually useful? should you focus be to the other person you're talking to?
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Smartphones have so many features nowadays that it is honestly difficult for any given person to make use of every one of them. Hence, there are some features that are diamonds to some and useless to others. Just because you in particular don't have a use for said feature, it can be be extremely useful to someone else. For instance, my girlfriend now lives a good 150 miles away. So a lot of our casual conversations are done for long periods of time over our phones. Should I be focusing on our conversation? Sure. Do I also wanna check xda, read an article with her to keep the conversation rolling, maybe watch a funny YouTube clip or something? Definitely. My point is, its not a feature that is visibly useless for everyone. You just don't have a use for it.
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i still don't get it, how in the world is this actually useful? should you focus be to the other person you're talking to?
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you might have an email, or be in your car using it as the GPS with the phone on speaker or bluetooth, or wanna check an email you're talking to someone about, etc. A lotta times, when I've been on the internet with the Photon, I've missed calls, and that includes using my Strava cycling app, which simply maps where I'm going.
Calls/texts will interrupt downloads which is annoying when trying to download large files over 3g
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As others have mentioned, if you have VoIP service independently of Sprint, there's nothing to stop you from using it on your phone. You can do a complete end-run around Sprint and cobble your own adhoc SVDO-ish work-around today. Your battery life will totally suck, and you'll be paying more money for VoIP from some thirdparty provider, but you can do it. Just run the client, forward your calls to your VoIP number, and you're in business.
So, why can't SPRINT do it? Simple. The service we all call "Call Forwarding" is heinously inefficient. It was invented ~25 years ago, and only works for its intended purpose (adhoc forwarding of calls to arbitrary numbers) because there are just a few people using it at any given point in time. If EVERYBODY (or even a large plurality of Android owners) tried doing it at once, Sprint would hit a hard limit beyond which no more users serviced by a given switch could forward calls until somebody else discontinued forwarding to free up a circuit (remember, ESS voice calls are circuit-switched, regardless of any packet-switched magic that might occur at the backhaul and trunk level. You'd be amazed how much metaphorical WD-40 and duct tape still gets used behind the scenes at Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile to glue 21st-century wireless and 19th-century wired phone circuits together & make wireless calls look like landline calls to the PSTN).
To implement large-scale SVDO that's cost-effective, scalable, and sustainable, Sprint has to make much bigger changes that involve their switches (enabling them to terminate calls directly to VoIP instead of relying on adhoc ESS-type call forwarding) and signaling (sending notifications via the same mechanism used now to notify the phone of incoming calls, deliver text messages, and carry Google & Apple's push notifications). That way, instead of forcing your phone to establish and maintain an EVDO or LTE connection 24/7 and use it to poll for incoming calls, it can still use the more power-efficient 1x method, and simply notify the onboard VoIP app that there's an incoming call when it happens.
At the end of the day, it's one of those cases where it's easy for nimble, tech-savvy, and highly-motivated individuals willing to spend a few days learning and experimenting to take matters into their own hands and hack something into working for themselves, but it's a much bigger job to make it viable for the unwashed masses who want it to "just work" transparently without disclaimers, gotchas, and devastated battery life. It's the same reason why iPhones don't have wimax on Sprint. Apple point blank refused to even consider implementing something where users have to toggle it manually and be aware of their connectivity options at all times to really make it work right. Think I'm kidding? Find a nontechnical Sprint customer with wimax-capable phone, and check out their 4G settings. 95 times out of 100, they'll have 4G disabled, even in cities where there's been 4G service for more than a year. They went to the Sprint store, complained about not being able to "surf the web" (WE know their phone was probably thrashing back and forth between 3G and 4G & kept spending 5-20 seconds at a time in "no network connection" limbo), the employee toggled 4G off, handed the phone back to them, and they never had any clue what the employee actually DID. They were just happy that their phone quit endlessly saying they had no internet connection. ;-)
hi community, i got my usa version of 1 iv and worked with mint-mobile (using t-mobile's network) to connect/activate. Calling/word text worked fine (image via text did not work), but no internet/data connection over 5g/LTE while browsing. Tech support could not get it working and escalated ... wondering if anyone would know how/what could be done. Thx!!
You must be missing the APN config on your device for TMobile. also, check if mobile data is enabled.
Here is T-Mobile info on how to setup Tmobile USA APN:
Tutorials | T-Mobile Support
Not related to the post (getting T-Mobile service) on any of the Asian firmwares at the moment.
I flashed the Euro, US firmwares and no signal at all. The radio power in hidden menu shows as off.
Does anyone know if crossflashing with this model also flashes the radio modem?
Seems to have worked naturally for Xperia 1 II and Xperia 1 III.
Not sure why this doesn't work now aside from intentionally restricting the phone to the intended region model.
Mine is XQ-CT72 global version on US T-Mobil.
I'm getting 800+, but US version should be better because of better band selection.
Mine goes that fast only certain places.
xperialiker said:
hi community, i got my usa version of 1 iv and worked with mint-mobile (using t-mobile's network) to connect/activate. Calling/word text worked fine (image via text did not work), but no internet/data connection over 5g/LTE while browsing. Tech support could not get it working and escalated ... wondering if anyone would know how/what could be done. Thx!!
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I own the USA variant of the phone and I have absolutely no issues with 5G data nor wi-fi. The only issues I am experiencing is the fact that voice over Wi-Fi has not been provisioned. Coincidentally my phone also tells me within engineering mode that video over Wi-Fi is also not implemented. Sony wants to point the finger at T-Mobile and T-Mobile wants to point the finger at Sony.
Other than that I love this phone.
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You must be missing the APN config on your device for TMobile. also, check if mobile data is enabled.
Here is T-Mobile info on how to setup Tmobile USA APN:
Tutorials | T-Mobile Support
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I have the correct APN that you mentioned and still no luck for voice over Wi-Fi. I spent over half an hour with a T-Mobile troubleshooting technician and she was not able to remedy the scenario. They have created a trouble ticket and forwarded up the food chain. They claim you will take about 3 days for them to get back to me so cross your fingers (VoWifi).
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I have the correct APN that you mentioned and still no luck for voice over Wi-Fi. I spent over half an hour with a T-Mobile troubleshooting technician and she was not able to remedy the scenario. They have created a trouble ticket and forwarded up the food chain. They claim you will take about 3 days for them to get back to me so cross your fingers (VoWifi).
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Ah, that is a different question. that means you are able to get data and your problem is only with VoWiFi which is expected. your original post question was totally different.
Sony blocks TMO VoWiFi in their software by blocking the network code in their settings. You will never get VoWiFi with Sony and TMO together unless you root and hack your sony build settings to enable it.
Your next best option is to move to GoogleFi that uses TMO network and you will be able to get the full VoWiFi service there since it has different network code.
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Ah, that is a different question. that means you are able to get data and your problem is only with VoWiFi which is expected. your original post question was totally different.
Sony blocks TMO VoWiFi in their software by blocking the network code in their settings. You will never get VoWiFi with Sony and TMO together unless you root and hack your sony build settings to enable it.
Your next best option is to move to GoogleFi that uses TMO network and you will be able to get the full VoWiFi service there since it has different network code.
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Rats. I've been looking to upgrade from my Note 10+ on T-Mobile, and the Xperia 1 IV looked promising, but VoWiFi being nerfed is a non-starter for my needs. Curse the manufacturers for moving away from expandable storage!
T-Mobile basically did a bunch of farting around and could not provision Wi-Fi calling on my phone. I have confirmed from at least three people on XDA developers that the workaround is to jump on board with Google fi since they do support Wi-Fi calling provisioning.... Or somehow root your phone and find an engineering workaround.
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T-Mobile basically did a bunch of farting around and could not provision Wi-Fi calling on my phone. I have confirmed from at least three people on XDA developers that the workaround is to jump on board with Google fi since they do support Wi-Fi calling provisioning.... Or somehow root your phone and find an engineering workaround.
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It is Still a good attempt from TMO to try to help, It is really not TMO fault here as nothing they can do. Sony is at fault blocking TMO network code in their VoWiFi software.
Sony has decided to block this service from the second largest US carrier, wondering why Sony sales not picking up in the US
seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
kinggo2 said:
seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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Since WCDMA and GSM are sunset, if you want to call someone or receive calls with your phone, you need VoLTE or VoNR. TG and Whatsapp are not that popular in the US, and imagine someone wanting to use their phone as a phone....
well, I get that. We still have 3G and GSM. And every time I work on new rollout things are more and more complicated because of all generations are still in use. Connecting to a unknown wifi every time seems very not practical and if it is not opened public network (which again is not great) how does that work then? I get it if you are at home/family/friends but my question is more like, no cell signal, jut some random wifi. To me it looks more like a patch then an actual service/solution for the lack of cell signal. Or is that something that you really can rely on?
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seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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The issue is when I'm in my local public supermarket there is no T-Mobile coverage in the building. There is Wi-Fi and I do use Google meet and other apps over Wi-Fi but if someone calls my phone number my phone will not receive the call. That is the point.
Someone would have to actually know that I'm in a no coverage area and utilize one of those other apps to reach me. If not businesses, job offers, local businesses that don't know me personally, someone new that I've met etc etc would never get through to me and I would eventually receive some type of voicemail message indication. That is unacceptable when you have children and other family members and friends that need to get in contact with you immediately.
igotroot said:
but if someone calls my phone number my phone will not receive the call. That is the point.
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Exactly the point, your phone number is the primary way many reach you. if your phone does not have any 3G\4G\5G coverage, then WiFi might be your only other option that gives people the ability to call you directly with your phone.
OK, but who provides wifi? I get that is is just a voip, but you still need internet connection. So instead of cellular it uses wifi.
Here, in many big business buildings or malls we have indoor base stations, sometimes it is combo indoor and out door. Indoor usually is set up as MIMO so all of the providers share the same indoor infrastructure.
Also, many of public places have a wifi but since we are covered with cell signal, nobody really cares about it. Mostly because you can't just connect to it. you need a pass from your bus ticket or your bill in bars or are greeted with front page of the mall that wants you to register and so on. So using wifi here is PITA, that's why I wonder how all that works there and why is it such a big deal.
kinggo2 said:
OK, but who provides wifi? I get that is is just a voip, but you still need internet connection. So instead of cellular it uses wifi.
Here, in many big business buildings or malls we have indoor base stations, sometimes it is combo indoor and out door. Indoor usually is set up as MIMO so all of the providers share the same indoor infrastructure.
Also, many of public places have a wifi but since we are covered with cell signal, nobody really cares about it. Mostly because you can't just connect to it. you need a pass from your bus ticket or your bill in bars or are greeted with front page of the mall that wants you to register and so on. So using wifi here is PITA, that's why I wonder how all that works there and why is it such a big deal.
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There are many places that I have frequented where cellular data and cellular calling will not go through. In those places Wi-Fi is available. While you can use WhatsApp and other individual applications to make video calls and even voice calls you will not be able to receive native incoming calls when someone calls your regular phone number nor will you be able to use your native dialer to make a regular phone call if Wi-Fi calling is not provisioned on your phone. Unfortunately our phones do not get provisioned for T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling apparently due to some issue between the Sony and T-Mobile. So by switching to another carrier or mvno, Wi-Fi calling will be enabled reportedly.
UPDATE: Switched to Google Fi.... Problem solved. Wi-Fi calling now enabled.
That part I get, but still don't know which wifi do you use for that. For mobile network, there is a SIM that handles the connection between cells. Phones can't connect to any available wifi, right. So..... I get what it is, but as someone who works on cell towers installations and from perspective of wifi networks here and my knowledge I still don't get which wifi do you use in that case.
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That part I get, but still don't know which wifi do you use for that. For mobile network, there is a SIM that handles the connection between cells. Phones can't connect to any available wifi, right. So..... I get what it is, but as someone who works on cell towers installations and from perspective of wifi networks here and my knowledge I still don't get which wifi do you use in that case.
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It can work on any Wi-Fi network that has adequate bandwidth. I can go to my local Publix supermarket....no cellular signal in there: I turn my WiFi on, I can make/receive calls with the native phone dialer. No cellular tower needed.
Even tested this at home.... I turned Airplane mode on, then afterwards I ONLY turn wi-fi on.... Calls can be made/received.