I always only have like 200mb ram available. That seems a little low to me. Are ur phones the same??
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I always only have like 200mb ram available. That seems a little low to me. Are ur phones the same??
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I usually get over 300 mb. I use Mean ROM though, that plays a factor in how much free RAM I am getting.
I normally have over 250mb free..which is perfectly fine with me except....the phone was advertised to hold 1gb of ram..I did not expect sense to take up almost have of it.
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Android phones are not the same as your PC.
How much memory you have available isnt significant.
Yea im running mean rom too. And ram is significant sometimes my app shuts down and i hate to restart it.
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Steven 1 said:
I normally have over 250mb free..which is perfectly fine with me except....the phone was advertised to hold 1gb of ram..I did not expect sense to take up almost have of it.
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Is that while using the phone ?
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Is that while using the phone ?
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I always use the phone..but if I kill all apps using task manager , I get up to 400 mb free. Then random services begin on their own and memory begins to bog down a bit.
Again, memory or lag isn't a prob for me. Just would love to use the full ram
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Steven 1 said:
I always use the phone..but if I kill all apps using task manager , I get up to 400 mb free. Then random services begin on their own and memory begins to bog down a bit.
Again, memory or lag isn't a prob for me. Just would love to use the full ram
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Linux based systems don't work the same way as windows based systems. Available RAM is not very important. I would advise not using a task manager or service killing application. Instead... Use the home button to exit an application that you intend to use again soon and the back button to exit an application that you are finished with. Allow android to handle RAM by itself.
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Linux based systems don't work the same way as windows based systems. Available RAM is not very important. I would advise not using a task manager or service killing application. Instead... Use the home button to exit an application that you intend to use again soon and the back button to exit an application that you are finished with. Allow android to handle RAM by itself.
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Actually they work highly similarly, since Vista. Both OSes use large amounts of RAM for cache, since there is literally zero reason not to. There's no performance impact. In fact, it's usually worse if you try to maintain a high level of free RAM, since it means no caching (slower app loading).
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Is it necessary to use a task killer?
Well it speed up my phone? Our Is the one included good
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To be honest been using task killer for a while and than decided that its useless. Closes the apps that I might use soon which make them start up a bit longer. Deleted it and really don't see any difference.
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To be honest been using task killer for a while and than decided that its useless. Closes the apps that I might use soon which make them start up a bit longer. Deleted it and really don't see any difference.
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Hey where did you buy your desire?
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The one included keeps important task running. Only will let you kill the ones it doesn't need in back ground.
Ive read. Yes you can use them to free up cpu usage. Three stock tk is the best.
Its official google.
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They're useless I used atk for a while... turns out when you click end all... the Apps are designed to auto start using more battery so everytime u close all those Apps more battery is used.
If you have a task manager that came with your phone like mine... use that... it disables the other apps that restart so you can't see them . Android it self is smart enough to give priority to the things your using. And after 10 - 20 minutes of not using an app android closes it auto.
So don't use those unless if its a default one by T-Mobile/Samsung
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Alanrocks15 said:
Hey where did you buy your desire?
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Internet telephone dealer. Mobilephonesdirect contract 900/500/unlimited (3gb) £25/m
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MattSkeet said:
Internet telephone dealer. Mobilephonesdirect contract 900/500/unlimited (3gb) £25/m
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Oh you don't live un the us
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Nope sorry
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I just upgraded to EVO LTE and is very nice its fast quick beautiful screen very smooth but can't figure out what's is using my ram I'm using 400 and have mabe 270 left to used but when I combine those it doesnt equal 1gb of ram
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htc sense use ram also i don't know how much but it's alot. Don't worry about the ram cause the system will end whatever you have open and not using to make more ram.
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Alright thanks
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I think the gpu probably uses some too which might be why it didn't add up to 1024mb
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I think the gpu probably uses some too which might be why it didn't add up to 1024mb
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Possibly, but when I add my used and unused ram together I only come up with
660 which is way short or 1gb ram
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Possibly, but when I add my used and unused ram together I only come up with
660 which is way short or 1gb ram
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I think I remember the EVO 3d with more ram. Like 720 something.
Well, there are plenty of hidden system settings. The number that you see in Task Manager or Settings is how much RAM that can be used for anything. The ram you do not see available is being used by things that are UNABLE to be removed from RAM because they are essential to the system running. That is the reason why we see nothing close to 1GB.same thing goes for computers, you can either see Installed Memory or you can see Usable Memory. Installed Memory on LTevo would be 1GB and Usable Memory on Stock would be around 670MB(IIRC) for me.
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I see now it makes more sense now
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I noticed this also, coming from the EVO 3d (also with 1gb of ram) vs the 4gLTE. IIRC the 3d shows 804mb total vs 680mb. I figured it had to do with the 3d running gingerbread/sense 3.5 vs the 4gLTE running ICS/sense 4.0. My friend who has a galaxy nexus also with 1gb of ram, shows around the same amount of ram in the task manager.. either way I am absolutely amazed with this phone, not one issue or hiccup so far..
Hey guys. I am a bit worried. The phone seems to be running fine but my RAM is constantly bellow 250 MB... I am killing everything possible and constantly using advanced task killer but still. I even saw a point where I had 90mb ram left... sometimes I can see that temple run also runs choppy. I find this extremely strange ... any help would be appreciated ...
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damn dude just use the search button!!! there are a lot of same posts!
Stop using f*ckin advanced task killer.
It hasn't been needed since 2.1.
It does more harm than good.
250mb free ram is fine, touchwiz likes ram, deal with it.
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Stop using f*ckin advanced task killer.
It hasn't been needed since 2.1.
It does more harm than good.
250mb free ram is fine, touchwiz likes ram, deal with it.
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This..
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Hey guys. I am a bit worried. The phone seems to be running fine but my RAM is constantly bellow 250 MB... I am killing everything possible and constantly using advanced task killer but still. I even saw a point where I had 90mb ram left... sometimes I can see that temple run also runs choppy. I find this extremely strange ... any help would be appreciated ...
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Have you tried de-bloating your phone? It would also be good to disable application that auto-starts.
Hey. You don't have to worry about the available RAM being low. Android manages RAM usage differently than most other Operating Systems like OSX and Windows. Essentially, having RAM used up in Android is good because it caches apps in the background which allows you to have fluid multitasking.
If you are worried about performance then the best thing to do would be to install an app called Watchdog. This app will monitor the CPU usage of apps. These truly affect the performance of the phone. In general though don't worry about the RAM. And whatever you do, don't use a Task Killer for RAM purposes. This can be damaging because it can corrupt files and processes and inevitably cause more harm than good.
Hope that helps
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Yep, 3rd party memory management sw use more power than they save so uninstall it at your earliest convenience please As you know ICS handles memory beautifuly. IT clears memory as needed so don't waste your time on memory-peeping and enjoy your phone
Thanks for the fast reply guys . I just removed the task manager . Did not know that it actually does more harm than help. How can I stop applications from autorstarting? Also I can't remove the bloatware unless a root the phone which at this point I am not that interested in doing ...
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Thanks for the fast reply guys . I just removed the task manager . Did not know that it actually does more harm than help. How can I stop applications from autorstarting? Also I can't remove the bloatware unless a root the phone which at this point I am not that interested in doing ...
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You cannot stop apps from autostarting without root.
You do not need root to remove bloatware.
Go to settings and apps, and then click on what you don't want and disable it.
how about this, this is really worst, i don,t have much bloatware running, still ram is very low
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there are threads with options for this.
ROOTED anyway.
edit your build prop, change the delvik heap size to 128....freed up ram for me, though i honestly dont need it. i only have around 100mgb of free ram and my phone still multie tasks like a champ.
but there are options.
The story about ram management being different on android or linux is a common explanation used with regard to why ram consumption is not something to be worried about, but it is not entirely true. The truth is, ram and cpu speed work hand in hand. If your ram is full, then the cpu has to constantly open and close background processes, and this will slow the phone down if the cpu is slow. For example, on the Galaxy S, the phone starts to lag when ram falls below 100mb. However, there is no such problem on the Galaxy S3. This is due to the quad core cpu which is able to open and close processes fast enough that there is no noticeable lag. With that said, ram consumption is nothing to be worried about on multi-core phones, despite the fact that it was a problem on older single core phones. The only way the ram on the Galaxy S3 would be limited enough to cause problems is if a single app or process requires more than the 780mb available, which is extremely unlikely.
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The story about ram management being different on android or linux is a common explanation used with regard to why ram consumption is not something to be worried about, but it is not entirely true. The truth is, ram and cpu speed work hand in hand. If your ram is full, then the cpu has to constantly open and close background processes, and this will slow the phone down if the cpu is slow. For example, on the Galaxy S, the phone starts to lag when ram falls below 100mb. However, there is no such problem on the Galaxy S3. This is due to the quad core cpu which is able to open and close processes fast enough that there is no noticeable lag. With that said, ram consumption is nothing to be worried about on multi-core phones, despite the fact that it was a problem on older single core phones. The only way the ram on the Galaxy S3 would be limited enough to cause problems is if a single app or process requires more than the 780mb available, which is extremely unlikely.
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This is assuming that what the cpu is processing is not in RAM, which is the point of it anyway
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
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That is false. The US versions have 2GB of RAM because of their processor using more RAM. Jellybean runs just fine on the Galaxy nexus with 1GB of RAM and only a dual core processor.
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
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That's bull****.
People need to stop spreading this retarded rumour from the verge.
Your version of the story is after taking on new facts as well, this is like Chinese whispers.
The nexus s is getting it, the nexus s has 512mb of ram of which 360mb is usable.
End. Of. Story.
I have JB on my gnex and its using 300mb ram with 400 free and I have loads of apps open.
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That's bull****.
People need to stop spreading this retarded rumour from the verge.
Your version of the story is after taking on new facts as well, this is like Chinese whispers.
The nexus s is getting it, the nexus s has 512mb of ram of which 360mb is usable.
End. Of. Story.
I have JB on my gnex and its using 300mb ram with 400 free and I have loads of apps open.
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The nexus s is also single core.
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The nexus s is also single core.
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Exactly!
JB will be absolutely fine on the S3.
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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Okay so I have five days uptime but have noticed this since two days uptime. I dont ever restart my phone because im an uptime junkie. But when I use stock task killer and remove everything from the list im still using 1gb which doesnt help me at all. Any thoughts? I know if I reboot itll be fine but I dont want to.
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Okay so I have five days uptime but have noticed this since two days uptime. I dont ever restart my phone because im an uptime junkie. But when I use stock task killer and remove everything from the list im still using 1gb which doesnt help me at all. Any thoughts? I know if I reboot itll be fine but I dont want to.
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also forgot to mention stock unrooted locked, etc, just high ram hog. sometimes randomly when i end all tasks i can get it to go down to like 600-800mb usage. but lately no matter how many times you end it, its at like 1gb, and it sucks because phones 1.75gb ram, and when i open a few things it starts to get really slow because theres not much free to play with.
what does it matter? you have 1.75gb available and your using 1.11 so it leave you with 640mb free... No matter if there is 1gb free or 640mb you wont be able to tell the difference performance wise since you have more than enough ram to cover it. If you want about bunch of extra ram just laying around not being used then try a aosp rom, but you will lose all the fancy touchwiz features.
I use fast reboot. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastreboot it works pretty good for me
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Okay so I have five days uptime but have noticed this since two days uptime. I dont ever restart my phone because im an uptime junkie. But when I use stock task killer and remove everything from the list im still using 1gb which doesnt help me at all. Any thoughts? I know if I reboot itll be fine but I dont want to.
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Touchwiz is a pig.
That app doesn't do anything for me. Stock killer works the same. Kill and 1gb in use
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As I said before, Touchwiz is a pig. You can clear ram in task manager all day long and literally watch the usage climb as it restarts services and apps you killed (and shouldn't have).
Touchwiz is a bigger pig than even Sense. We literally have 1gb less of internal storage than the Droid DNA, and they have the same amount of carrier crapware.
You have 2gb of ram, so I don't see the issue. Unused ram is wasted ram. You clearly aren't running out of ram, so what does it matter? The same amount of electricity powers unused ram as used.
I say this because I notice when using snote with spen its really laggy sometimes because I have like no ram available and gotta kill apps.
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I say this because I notice when using snote with spen its really laggy sometimes because I have like no ram available and gotta kill apps.
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The thing is, according to the task mangler you aren't out of ram, per this thread.
My ram usage at any given time is close to 1.3gb and higher. I have no lagginess in the s-pen. So if you are sitting at 1gb free and having issues with the s-pen, I'd look elsewhere to your problem.
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The thing is, according to the task mangler you aren't out of ram, per this thread.
My ram usage at any given time is close to 1.3gb and higher. I have no lagginess in the s-pen. So if you are sitting at 1gb free and having issues with the s-pen, I'd look elsewhere to your problem.
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your use is that high because the rom itself is, same as on a computer. wanna lessen it rom the phone, ive never seen my phone lag.
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your use is that high because the rom itself is, same as on a computer. wanna lessen it rom the phone, ive never seen my phone lag.
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I never said I saw phone lag???
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So I went into recovery and wiped the system partition cache, this was one of the options I've been looking for I hope this works and I'm not setting my self up for disappointment again every time I try something new I think I might have it but I got a good feeling about this one this time or am I crazy ?.
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did u check ram usage?
Yeah its not low on ram .
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Yeah its not low on ram .
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I think this is the reason...
Think what is the reason ? I said it's not low on RAM .
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I think when ram usage rising up to % 85 maybe device shutting itself.
I thought thst because when i trying a rom, i was having same issue. When device laggy i was checkink ram usage and see high usage and than device freezes.
That could be...
That s my opinion, not a technical info
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I know a device gets laggy when it's low on ram but I said it wasn't so I think you need to review my reply,
My belief is that it's got some sort of system data issues and I've been trying to give it a clean wipe but Motorola doesn't seem to have the proper options for this like Sony does I've so far gone into recover factory reset and wiped all user data and system partition cache and re-flashed the firmware if there's not much more I can do then it may be the hardware and if so at least I have a hole new motherboard to throw in it but it's from the GSM version and only runs ICS not sure if it will let me flash JB on it and probably not.
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Hi!
I had the same issue and I agree that's because the low RAM available.
I have tried the Greenefy app from the play store and the problem was solve... More or less, it happens that when I'm doing a heavy use of the phone, he colapse and make a reboot (not all the time).
Regards.
It is weird,
I have been using Bmm instead of Safestrap for 1 month. Until this time, I have never seen reboot issue.
(Maybe rom i have beem using good)
I am not sure, but it could be
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Ok but when I check the ram usage it's usually around 50% which is pretty normal and that's close to what you get out the box since the system uses up most of it I remember the last update on Gingerbread fixed the issues I was having with it at the time could there be a problem with the T map processor that Moto chose to go with over the typical Qualcomm processor who knows but I bet it would run awesome on Kat Kat.
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