....why don't Asus follow suit and compete with them? Surely they have their customers' best interests at heart?
I'm probably way off the mark here, being an amoeba in the Android pond. Not trying to stir emotions, just interested if anyone has a view on this.
acricketer said:
....why don't Asus follow suit and compete with them? Surely they have their customers' best interests at heart?
I'm probably way off the mark here, being an amoeba in the Android pond. Not trying to stir emotions, just interested if anyone has a view on this.
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In most people's opinions who are big into Android, custom roms on every device work better. It's for a variety of reasons. One really big reason is because as developers and custom android enthusiasts we can take risks. As a developer, we can customize a really nice rom, build to suit the needs of most of our users. It's always a give and take. You can bump up clock speeds, tweak frequencies, etc. Our users want performance, so we take some from the battery life category and give to the performance category. Or maybe we are building a slim rom with amazing battery life that doesn't have nearly as much eye candy and has auto sync settings modified, etc.
Asus doesn't have that ability. They have to build one piece of software that does everything pretty good and not much perfect. They can't release an update, and three days later release another update, and then another. Most people who buy an Android device aren't custom rom enthusiasts and don't give a darn what version of Android they are running as long as it's working like they want it too.
So Asus has to do months of testing, and tweaking, and testing more before they release something. And then that one something has to try to satisfy their entire population of users. So a manufacturer can't take the same risks that developers take all the time, because they have way more on the line and are catering to a buyer group that is largely going to run bone stock and doesn't know what a rom or kernel is, and may get really mad if they have better performance and a faster loading browser but their screen goes black for a second when they rotate orientation. Or if the lock/unlock button doesn't work, they will write nasty reviews about how their update just to make a browser that worked before work a little better, took away features that they had before.
With us, one screwup, even a big one, can cause us to need to update the rom version and add a few lines to the change log. With a company like asus, it can cost them millions in warranty claims and RMA's. Personally, I'm with you. Asus should slap a wookie rom on the prime and HTC should throw a bamf rom on their phones from the start, and we would have MUCH better phones, and updates ready the day they're legally allowed to go public. But their's a lot more at stake when you have to worry about bottom lines, warranties, R&D, quality control, etc.
Then their is also sales and marketing that effect things. Lets say a company like Asus has a tablet like the prime. And they have the new tfp 800 set to go on sale with Jelly Bean and because of technology and cost limitations, it has slightly better battery life and a better screen than the prime, and other than that it's almost the same tablet. But, they've been advertising the tfp 800 as the first 10 inch quad core Official Jelly Bean tablet. The developers may have already finished the beta testing on the prime, but if they release jelly bean on the prime, 6 weeks before the big TFP 800, then they will make a bunch of their prime customers happy and realize there's not much difference. But if they weight two months to drop jelly bean, they will have a lot of prime owners that have heard all the great jelly bean hype and don't want to wait that will go out and buy the TFP 800 plus all these new potential customers that want jelly bean on a 10 inch tablet when it launches and so they are required to buy the new tfp800 from asus, where if they would have released a jelly bean update and fixed all the issues on the prime before the 800 launched, a lot of their potential customers would just buy a secondhand prime that had the jellybean update, or decided it wasn't a big deal since the prime had it a few months ago and not make that impulse buy, etc.
Well then I guess we won't be seeing this anytime soon.
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Dammitz texstar, your pic was the first thing I saw when I opened this thread, my blood pressure went through the roof. Until I saw the context...
*cries*
Its a quite normal that custom ROMs work 'better' than stock roms
Problem in this case is: the stock rom is malfunctioning... users are forced to void warranty to fix it theirselves ....
why is asus not on the case?
I sure hope they are!!!
jellybean surprise around the corner, thats my guess ...
Tempie007 said:
Its a quite normal that custom ROMs work 'better' than stock roms
Problem in this case is: the stock rom is malfunctioning... users are forced to void warranty to fix it theirselves ....
why is asus not on the case?
I sure hope they are!!!
jellybean surprise around the corner, thats my guess ...
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In my personal experience, most custom ROMs have bugs and other peculiarities that most average users wouldn't want to deal with on a day to day basis. I am not saying that there aren't some great ROMs out there, but I agree with CharliesTheMan in that no ROM is without its trade-offs and often those trade-offs.
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Sony confirms Xperia Play will not get Android 4.0, cites stability concerns
By Chris Welch 05.25.2012
A day after word spread that Sony's Xperia Play had vanished from its list of incoming Ice Cream Sandwich upgrades, the company has come forward and confirmed that the gaming-centric handset will not be making the jump to Android 4.0. "After extensive in house testing with our developer teams and working with our partners, we have concluded that a consistent and stable experience, particularly with gaming, cannot be guaranteed for this smartphone on Ice Cream Sandwich," says the post at Sony's Xperia Product Blog. "Therefore, we will not make the Android 4.0 upgrade available for Xperia Play."
According to Sony, a beta test conducted on unlocked Play units brought about similar concerns from users and developers. The news doesn't bode well for a product once heralded as the company's flagship PS Suite hardware —and the only such device to offer physical gaming controls. It's hard to see how Sony could add much in the way of new features if it's cautiously leaving owners behind on Gingerbread in hopes of preserving a consistent user experience. Despite what's presented as good intentions, we doubt Sony's explanation will provide much solace to those who are now forever bound to Android 2.3.
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That's because they're not content in making a proper kernel and optimizing ICS for it's hardware. This is bogus.
They're plan of making cheapo ICS for the 2011 line of Xperia's failed because they know it just won't be up on par with Gingerbread.
They've done a terrible job with ICS for the other 2011 devices but it was permited at least for those as they're not gaming devices.
What I would like to know now is, if they'll bring 2.3.7 at least through an update with some fixed to the ROM. It's the least they could do after eating **** for almost an year with promises and bogus
Shame on you sony.
(F U C K S O N Y)
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Every single one of your posts oozes with intelligence and sofistication. Good job \sarcasm
I have no idea how some people still don't realise that it's not really Sony's fault. The problem is that the developers won't udate the Play optimized games for ICS so the phone will lose more than half of the game catalogie if it updates. Most of the Gameloft HD games don't work on ICS on any phone. If you really want ICS just install a custom ROM and that's it.
My friend installed official ICS on his Arc S and he reverted to Gingerbread less then a week later. Aside from the recent application menagment improvement it's really not that big of a deal, as it is we have a very optimized device, no need to fix what's not broken.
And for people asking for 2.3.7, read the changelogs and see what it brings. We'll never see it because it's not required on our phones. Cheers!
Delete thread please pax. At the very least this could have been put in the right section with the other people whining and posting the same thing.
Bull****.
If this was purported to be a "flagship" PS suite hardware, they should've done better than a f'kin Adreno 205 with a last gen 1Ghz Soc.
Sorry, but bull****.
You lose, Sony.
Again.
I really think it wasn't because of hardware...Sony must have cancelled because of the game contracts.
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I really think it wasn't because of hardware...Sony must have cancelled because of the game contracts.
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That's directly related to the hardware. Do you think game developers will spend precious time tweaking/tuning the hell outta their games so that it can run on the pansy ass Adreno 205 under ICS? hell no...
Now, if it was a decent SoC, they would have definitely considered.
So, the bottom line is : Sony failed in making their "flagship" a *real* Flagship... you know, something that can last f'kin atleast 1-2 years. But no... what did they do? Slapped a 1+ year OLD SoC in it and called it a "PS flagship".
It's the MSM8255. The HTC Desire HD had it in mid-2010, yep 2010. And the Play? Launched in mid 2011 with a f'kin one year old SoC.. flagship my ass.
I believe sony is right, the game dev's just aren't prepared to move all their xperia play games over to ICS, and from what we've seen, we don't really need their official ICS anyway, the community is doing fine without them. Supervenom's ICS AOKP Play! mod works just fine.
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Every single one of your posts oozes with intelligence and sofistication. Good job \sarcasm
I have no idea how some people still don't realise that it's not really Sony's fault. The problem is that the developers won't udate the Play optimized games for ICS so the phone will lose more than half of the game catalogie if it updates. Most of the Gameloft HD games don't work on ICS on any phone. If you really want ICS just install a custom ROM and that's it.
My friend installed official ICS on his Arc S and he reverted to Gingerbread less then a week later. Aside from the recent application menagment improvement it's really not that big of a deal, as it is we have a very optimized device, no need to fix what's not broken.
And for people asking for 2.3.7, read the changelogs and see what it brings. We'll never see it because it's not required on our phones. Cheers!
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No one likes a big company lover .
Those games will get updates and they will run on ICS.
Fact is the ICS Sony cooked up sucks because it delivers way more horrible performance than Ginger.
Fact is even our ginger kernel is a froyo one with hacks to make it work for ginger.
Fact is our last update still needs improvements. By bringing 2.3.7 doesn't actually mean that the Google base has to bring improvements even though the code is cleaner and I have seen it working better than the older 2.3.4 even though changelog does not specify anything in that regard. They can just fix flaws and bring performance updates.
PS: Stop being the big head on a forum, the general public won't like you.
For me gb is great,and I love sony,more stable with hard games,
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1) This is NOT Development Oriented, it doesn't belong in this subforum.
2) THERE IS A STICKY IN GENERAL FOR THIS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673905
I see alot of people commenting that the htc one is bad and that the S4 is better well wtf you doing in the One section GTFO to S4's section...nobody here wants to know nothing about that plastic sh*tty ass phone!!!
Here's my two cents, I owned the s4 for a week and thought the ui was so weird, cool phone in some areas but I guess it was too much for me I like the one's ui better it's not so overwhelming
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mexican32310 said:
I see alot of people commenting that the htc one is bad and that the S4 is better well wtf you doing in the One section GTFO to S4's section...nobody here wants to know nothing about that plastic sh*tty ass phone!!!
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Your giving off that same bias one-sided opinion. Both devices have their own pros and cons and satisfy different needs of users. The S4 is for those who want higher performance, removeable batteries, SUPER AMOLED Display, extra storage space as apps these days seem to be taking up more and more space, featured camera, etc, while in my perspective the One is for those who want a high performance device, with a screen that has great visibility in daylight, good sounding speakers, with a really slick design. Obviously the OS's come into play too, each one offers their own feel and look.
I'm very happy with my S4. I wouldn't trade it for anything. I really value the ability to have my 64GB SD card so i can install more than just a few of my favourite apps, i have 3 batteries so as soon as one dies i can pop in one of the backups and i'm back to a full charge instantly and ready to go. I like the development of this device, and i like to have the strongest hardware with absolutely ZERO lag.
Its great that you like your One, to each person their own, but don't be immature about it and let peoples comments get to you. I gave my reasons for my choice, and you know why you purchased your device over the S4, so it doesn't really matter what anyone else has to say about it.
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Your giving off that same bias one-sided opinion. Both devices have their own pros and cons and satisfy different needs of users. The S4 is for those who want higher performance
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Please explain this "higher performance". The S4 doesn't offer any performance improvements, as a matter of fact it has a severe hindrance compared to the One due to all of the features Samsung packed in the phone. Lag lag lag.. you can read about it in just about every tech review out there
The One performs better. Period.
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Please explain this "higher performance". The S4 doesn't offer any performance improvements, as a matter of fact it has a severe hindrance compared to the One due to all of the features Samsung packed in the phone. Lag lag lag.. you can read about it in just about every tech review out there
The One performs better. Period.
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On Stock I would agree with that completely, but as i mentioned theres great development for the S4, and the device can OC higher. I personally choose AOKP as my preferred ROM and theres by no means any way a One could run smoother than my S4 on my current ROM. I compare it to my friends Nexus 4 which is considered to be the smoothest device out there and is said to be 100% lag free, but my S4 is just as smooth if not smoother and opens and closes apps faster. I don't care about sacraficing Sammy's features, and i use Nandroids to switch to TW when the rare occasion comes that i want to use touchwiz. Without all the Sammy junk this device is a pure tank. I havent had the slightest microstutter in the few weeks ive ran this ROM, and that's what is most important to me. I'm not saying the One is slow, but the only way this device could get any faster would be a faster processor to open and close apps just those milliseconds faster which are already practically instantaneous.
Yes but you're insinuating that somehow the S4 performs "better". I don't see where you can make that statement, when you're comparing a non-stock ROM to stock. Have you compared the HTC One on AOSP to the S4?
I doubt there would be a "higher performance" with the S4. Bottom line is there is zero advantage in performance when comparing the same set up on both.
This is a flame bait thread. I'm putting forward a motion to have this closed.
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In the past:
processors were minimal (custom kernels and overclocking with CM helped fill in the gaps)
bloatware choked performance due to lack of space (CM eliminated bloatware)
GUI's were clunky and unintuitive (simplicity of CM, i.e. basic Android, was a necessity)
manufacturers added no value with their launchers and modifications (CM eliminated the manufacturer's oft ill conceived changes)
software updates lagged far behind Google updates.
And now:
processors work as is
space is plentiful, bloatware is not an issue
GUI's actually work
manufacturers are adding functionality
software updates are more current with Google changes.
So, I have to ask, what does CM bring to the table? When I put it on the Note 2, CM eliminated functionality without adding any improvements. I can't see where it would add anything to the Sony Xperia Ultra. I can see how it would take functionality away just like it did with the Note 2.
CM has redefined itself as an operating system. Its goal is to be the operating system for hardware manufacturers just like Android and Apple. Smart move. The CM we knew is no longer needed. Out of the box Samsung, HTC and Sony premium smart phones actually perform well, are being updated on a regular basis and have manufacturer added value. We have to think of CM as being the OEM operating system, not a replacement for Sony, Samsung and HTC Android operating systems.
CM is adding an app to the play store that will make it easy to install CM to devices. I see that as an acknowledgement to where it came from, not a step to its future. It will not be long before we buy Samsung, Sony and HTC phones with CM as the operating system.
I love Cyanogen. And is my point why I love android.
But unfortunately they trying to support many devices and they lose quality.
I remember how we was happy with G1 to see crazy benchmarking with Cyanogen., now it's lower than stock They said Sony is very friendly with the developers (source etc) but I remember Cyanogen on Xperia Z....it was bad experience I ever taste. And then it was a scandal with Samsung. They promise to stop supporting...... but as you see cyanogen is more business now than love.
And I know many developers who got same opinion as me.
But we still love them and we will love them.
While I agree with a lot of what you say... the note2 was very different. any device that has another piece of hardware that you use with it for a purpose, then CM wont work 'stand alone'. Samsung's note applications were great and thats where CM was left standing and waiting....
With the Ultra, it doesn't have any specific apps that take advantage of the 'sketch' application. There are loads that do the same, and even better on the playstore.
I can see CM being a clean neat feel. However it will need to be cleaner and smoother than the xperia UI for it to be a real advantage to flash.
hamdogg said:
While I agree with a lot of what you say... the note2 was very different. any device that has another piece of hardware that you use with it for a purpose, then CM wont work 'stand alone'. Samsung's note applications were great and thats where CM was left standing and waiting....
With the Ultra, it doesn't have any specific apps that take advantage of the 'sketch' application. There are loads that do the same, and even better on the playstore.
I can see CM being a clean neat feel. However it will need to be cleaner and smoother than the xperia UI for it to be a real advantage to flash.
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I don't know, I prefer AOSP, so even if there's nothing else offered by CM, I'd still rather run it than Sony's ROM (not that this phone has a bad ROM; in fact, I've been surprisingly happy with it out of the box).
I'm not a fan of any manufacturer skin out there, so CM is what i flash when i want a "pure" and light ROM. It's all about looks and feel for me, and since CM is a barebone experience, i can make it my own from scratch. I have a Galaxy Note, and i've used CM on it for the past 15 months. I quickly noticed that i didn't use any of Samsung's bloatware or any other Samsung features, so why should i have to deal with it? Why should i let that crap run in the background? I'd rather just flash something that's completely "naked" from the start, and install and modify the things I WANT and need, not what Samsung want, or Sony, or HTC etc.
Granted, Sony isn't that bad when it comes to their custom skin. It's pretty light, and they haven't given Disco Stu a job as a UI designer (cough, Samsung), so i guess i'll keep my Ultra (soon to arrive) pretty stock in the beginning, and just install Nova when i've had enough of Sony's launcher. When i'm sick and tired of the whole Sony experience, i'll move on to CM.
CM of the past is gone?
i agree, because its moving to the future... cyanogenmod inc. ftw!
I do understand what the OP trying to say about the past. Because we needed so much modification to the software to make the phone run smoothly, and Android was very fragmented when it came to finding apps for your purpose. I had the HTC Desire PVT4, and my dad PVT1 with S-OFF and it was so much fun! This was when Android and the community was at it's best!
But today Android is more stable, it runs more independent, It's a lot faster. BUT what I get from it is the clean look, the speed and stability.
And I get my chance to customize my phone to my taste. Not how SONY want it, or HTC want it or how Samsung want to brag about their animations and proprietary apps. If someone tries to make a phonecall from my device, they can't..because they are not familiar to the look of my device and that's a good thing because I have a taste. I don't want the guy on the bus sitting next to me or behing me to have the exact same UI and wallpaper as me!!
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CM of the past is gone?
i agree, because its moving to the future... cyanogenmod inc. ftw!
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Even this post of mine that i'm typing in the present is now in the past.
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Even this post of mine that i'm typing in the present is now in the past.
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lol:good:
But the one click installation is nice!!
I'd really like to have one, but there are a couple of issues: The screen...if I bought a used one, for example, can I get the warranty honored? Secondly, the SOD: Has it been solved?
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I'd really like to have one, but there are a couple of issues: The screen...if I bought a used one, for example, can I get the warranty honored? Secondly, the SOD: Has it been solved?
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I'm very happy with my two (one as a incar GPS/test box). Good luck on warranty on a used one, Sony here in NZ didn't want to know for my second one (I brought it broken), although they are a gray import here.
The sleep of death was solved a long time ago on one of the 4.2 updates. There is 4.4.4 kicking around noe.
Yes, i am very satisfied with Z Ultra. Nope the chances for me to go back to small screen is very much gone... Unless no Z2 Ultra in the future.
But as of now, Z Ultra is really great. never got satisfied more than this. Battery Life might need to be better but 5 hour real time screen time average is very respectable for such screen size and power engine
Short answer: Yes. Very. I'll probably stick with it for another year (have had mine for around 10 months now).
horribly glitchy, unpredictable, can't depend on it, countless small little annoyances everywhere
but every android phone is like that... at least this one has a huge screen and is rather fast so yeah i guess
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YES, I AM
Except when I'm learning now how to create a custom recovery...
And I don't understand anything, I locked back my bootloader... Still rooted on stock .108
I'm trying to create a website dedicated for this C6833
To avoid any confusion between the Z1 and our Z Ultra
(even if they are pretty close the same)
(I'm recreating a new account on XDA because I forgot my old one, and those 10 posts minimum gets me very angry)
I am very happy with my C6802 almost 11 months after getting it (bought it early August last year). It is still unsurpassed and despite about three weeks before root was possible (vRoot unfortunately), the arrival of GPe got things going.
It is the best phablet made to this date; I don't consider any other device close beside the Oppo Find 7. The only thing I am worried about is the lack of any successor rumor or even information about upcoming devices in the same category. The only competitors I know about right now is the Oppo N1 and Huawei Ascend Mate 2, both with weaker hardware.
My requirements for a new device is Snapdragon 810/815, 4 GB RAM, 64 GB internal storage, 6.5-7 inch screen, keyboard cover as an option, camera not important (have the QX10 for that), microSDXC slot and... either Google vanilla/Android Silver or CM-based. Sony implementation is OK.
I guess next year will bring those things to the table but it would be great with some decent phablets this fall since it would indicate that the segment is alive and well. Right now, the Ultra is in a class of its own and any other device means compromising on the core: a solution that is a true tablet replacement with great software.
Edit: The GPe ROM paired with Xposed Framework and optimized Dalvik libraries (compensating for the ART/Xposed issue) make the Ultra a completely superior phablet. I have tried the Note 3 (which is hyped as being such a great device) several times and it is far, far behind the Ultra in every aspect besides the camera. The best features of it such as multiwindow is available on the Ultra through Xposed and it works great.
Greetings,
I know officially mhl is not supported on galaxy alpha
For curiosity's sake and confirmation - will someone please plug in an mhl cable and test if there's any hdmi video signal to the monitor?
Many thanks!
jazzaddict said:
Greetings,
I know officially mhl is not supported on galaxy alpha
For curiosity's sake and confirmation - will someone please plug in an mhl cable and test if there's any hdmi video signal to the monitor?
Many thanks!
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Nope, it won't work. I have one that I use for my Samsung Tab Pro 10,1, and it doesn't output anything on the Galaxy Alpha. I was actually amazed when it didn't mostly becuase Samsung seems to have cut corners everywhere on this device besides the chassis.
Thank you for testing that out..
I had been contemplating on galaxy alpha as it is on clearance... with the lack of community development for this device...I guess I'll give it a miss and see what does S6 have for offer
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Thank you for testing that out..
I had been contemplating on galaxy alpha as it is on clearance... with the lack of community development for this device...I guess I'll give it a miss and see what does S6 have for offer
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I shelled out for the Alpha, 0/10 wouldn't do again. Good choice on a flagship that will at least get support with time. This is horrendous. I really need to learn compiling roms. There's like NO development for this device. I should have learned by now not to buy niche products.
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I shelled out for the Alpha, 0/10 wouldn't do again. Good choice on a flagship that will at least get support with time. This is horrendous. I really need to learn compiling roms. There's like NO development for this device. I should have learned by now not to buy niche products.
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What problems your alpha has? At least mine works like charm, no need for CM or any other custom rom... This is first Android for me that I haven't rooted. Usually people need an software update or custom ROM, when the device has something missing and/or something is not working properly.
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What problems your alpha has? At least mine works like charm, no need for CM or any other custom rom... This is first Android for me that I haven't rooted. Usually people need an software update or custom ROM, when the device has something missing and/or something is not working properly.
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Well for starters, when I listen to music from Google Play and the device goes into sleep in the pocket it starts lagging, lol. It only stops when it has fully switched onto the smaller processor, I guess? To me that's bad coding. TouchWiz is still clunky and too colorful for my liking, and the dark blue color is just not to my liking either. The screen is not THAT good either, I would have expected them to use a more expensive amoled on this one but hell, can't have it all, I can live with it.
I bought it for the looks and I hoped more people, devs and such, would be willing to buy it. Samsung makes decent products, their software is absolute bollocks if you ask me. Like I said, I took a chance and bought a device that at the time didn't have any development going for it, and to this day it still hasn't.
I am really happy that you enjoy your Sammy device, even if to me it sounds like you have a bloated up phone due to no root. But I guess there is something for everyone. How ever I must ask you to understand that I don't look for the same as you, apparently do, from the phone. I want stock vanilla or CM on my device because I find it more soothing. My Exynos tablet finally got it and I was hoping this phone would too.. So yes, I took two chances with Samsung now. The first one ended well but I feel like this one isn't going to work out quite as well. I say these things solely because I enjoy these things in a phone. We're simply different people and you do not need to understand me or see the display the way I do, for instance.
I do not intend to squash your enjoyment of your device at all. I am really happy that you enjoy your phone. How ever when I look at the display and the software, I find it lacking for the price, and I know that CM or vanilla would at least ease me off a bit.
CuraeL said:
Well for starters, when I listen to music from Google Play and the device goes into sleep in the pocket it starts lagging, lol. It only stops when it has fully switched onto the smaller processor, I guess? To me that's bad coding. TouchWiz is still clunky and too colorful for my liking, and the dark blue color is just not to my liking either. The screen is not THAT good either, I would have expected them to use a more expensive amoled on this one but hell, can't have it all, I can live with it.
I bought it for the looks and I hoped more people, devs and such, would be willing to buy it. Samsung makes decent products, their software is absolute bollocks if you ask me. Like I said, I took a chance and bought a device that at the time didn't have any development going for it, and to this day it still hasn't.
I am really happy that you enjoy your Sammy device, even if to me it sounds like you have a bloated up phone due to no root. But I guess there is something for everyone. How ever I must ask you to understand that I don't look for the same as you, apparently do, from the phone. I want stock vanilla or CM on my device because I find it more soothing. My Exynos tablet finally got it and I was hoping this phone would too.. So yes, I took two chances with Samsung now. The first one ended well but I feel like this one isn't going to work out quite as well. I say these things solely because I enjoy these things in a phone. We're simply different people and you do not need to understand me or see the display the way I do, for instance.
I do not intend to squash your enjoyment of your device at all. I am really happy that you enjoy your phone. How ever when I look at the display and the software, I find it lacking for the price, and I know that CM or vanilla would at least ease me off a bit.
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It is just first time, that bloated samsung crapwized phone works like it should.... At least I use most of samsung stuff... for fun mostly... Of course I have disabled mymagazine and s-voice, because they were slowing things down, but on most part it works. And cm rom is on the way and it will be nice, light and smooth as all of them just wait and see. BTW even nexus 5 is slowed by battery-draining, sometimes laggy Google services. So I would agree that good cm port is better than any stock rom. Problem with our device is custom hardware. For instance wolfson sound processing hub, exynos octa 9 (or more) core processor with 4+4+1+.... cores for everything, custom camera sensor, heart rate monitor, independent intel modem.... and so on, makes it hard for developers to work, but is awesome when they take their time. You should hear what that wolfson chip is capable of when it is de-restricted and reprogrammed to use all functions it has.
All this makes me think that this phone has received much R&D money than half of devices they have released this year together.
P.S. To be honest I usually brake stuff, but i bought this, because it was small and light, had 1 year free screen insurance, wolfson sound, OLED screen (the newest gen ALMOLED tech with diamond matrix was a bonus), durability (small samsungs are strong and it has GG4 on the screen), camera (sensor and software) and power (THAT exynos).
toms95 said:
It is just first time, that bloated samsung crapwized phone works like it should.... At least I use most of samsung stuff... for fun mostly... Of course I have disabled mymagazine and s-voice, because they were slowing things down, but on most part it works. And cm rom is on the way and it will be nice, light and smooth as all of them just wait and see. BTW even nexus 5 is slowed by battery-draining, sometimes laggy Google services. So I would agree that good cm port is better than any stock rom. Problem with our device is custom hardware. For instance wolfson sound processing hub, exynos octa 9 (or more) core processor with 4+4+1+.... cores for everything, custom camera sensor, heart rate monitor, independent intel modem.... and so on, makes it hard for developers to work, but is awesome when they take their time. You should hear what that wolfson chip is capable of when it is de-restricted and reprogrammed to use all functions it has.
All this makes me think that this phone has received much R&D money than half of devices they have released this year together.
P.S. To be honest I usually brake stuff, but i bought this, because it was small and light, had 1 year free screen insurance, wolfson sound, OLED screen (the newest gen ALMOLED tech with diamond matrix was a bonus), durability (small samsungs are strong and it has GG4 on the screen), camera (sensor and software) and power (THAT exynos).
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I do know the processor in theory should be great. But because Samsung is not releasing anything useful we can't take advantage. And I'm sorry to say this but progress is stalling like a boss on the unofficial port of CM11, which if I might add is already an older edition of CM than what is currently being dev'd by the Cyanogen boys.. Not to mention by the time it's done it's going to be even older. I appreciate the effort but it's a very slow progress, it's not the devs fault, it's Samsung's fault.
By the way, once again, I'm glad you enjoy the heart rate thingy and such but I really don't need it. I just wanted the metal chassis and the perfect size factor of this device. A some what sturdy built Samsung for once. Not too plasticky. The thing you mention about "new display technology" I don' really follow. PenTile is so freaking weird when it comes to the green subpixels. I will still hold my ground on that I can see that fitfh less green in each subpixel. I've described this as "stitching" effect earlier. The way you can see on a solid icon for instance, that the red color is not "level" all the way down, it's more of a line of sown pixels. It can be seen on white text too, it's like the edges of the text blurs into a dark background. On such a small display I'm certain that 720p would look more clear in an LCD display with protoPenTile, RGBW or an IPS display. But I'm really nitpicking the display here and like I said, when I'm at a fair distance of the display I don't notice it and I can live with it. It's just my brain is annoying me with the fact that it's THERE, lol.
Don't brake your phone this time then, that's too expensive a phone for that.
ttyl
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toms95 said:
(the newest gen ALMOLED tech with diamond matrix was a bonus)
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Look at the white around the reds.. It's a weird effect that I can see even when I'm holding the phone down in normal position. Sorry I know it is a big picture.
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