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Hello!!
I have just purchased a Galaxy 2 and it should arrive Friday or Monday.
I have been using the N900 for around 18 months and absolutely love the FREEDOM of a full Linux stack (Maemo).
Got too old and slow.
Upgrade time. SGS2 time!
Now. Rooting looks relatively easy, but why do you guys install custom roms?
Also, if anyone here can help with a small side question, the N900 has a FULL xterm with all available commands (/bin).
How do I go about getting such commands under android?
On Maemo it was as easy as "apt-get install //missing-command//"
I installed bash on my NItdroid (android on n900) but there are a few commands not available. Nothing special, just things like "history" and Possibly "nano" etc.
I had virtually zero commands on my old Xperia X10 (rooted), which is why I went back to N900. I'm a terminal geek!
Im used to having full Linux repo's.
I can build custom kernels for N900 and other Omap 3 and Omap 4 devices, but they are u-boot kernels, so I have to start learning again!!
Also, is there a terminal program which is green text on black background?? I can only find white on blue! YUCK! not nearly nerdy enough!
More often than not custom ROM's offer much better battery life and are faster and have many many added features which stock ROM's do not have, also most custom ROM's will not have Samsung bloatware in them which again will save you much battery,you can if you wish apply some themes on custom ROM's,the list is endless.
kingoddball said:
Hello!!
I have just purchased a Galaxy 2 and it should arrive Friday or Monday.
I have been using the N900 for around 18 months and absolutely love the FREEDOM of a full Linux stack (Maemo).
Got too old and slow.
Upgrade time. SGS2 time!
Now. Rooting looks relatively easy, but why do you guys install custom roms?
Also, if anyone here can help with a small side question, the N900 has a FULL xterm with all available commands (/bin).
How do I go about getting such commands under android?
On Maemo it was as easy as "apt-get install //missing-command//"
I installed bash on my NItdroid (android on n900) but there are a few commands not available. Nothing special, just things like "history" and Possibly "nano" etc.
I had virtually zero commands on my old Xperia X10 (rooted), which is why I went back to N900. I'm a terminal geek!
Im used to having full Linux repo's.
I can build custom kernels for N900 and other Omap 3 and Omap 4 devices, but they are u-boot kernels, so I have to start learning again!!
Also, is there a terminal program which is green text on black background?? I can only find white on blue! YUCK! not nearly nerdy enough!
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How's it going? I was on the N900 as well (still use it as my music player) and have recently moved on to the SGS2. speed wise it is miles apart! even thouse the Maemo repos have excellent apps, you do notice the lack of commercial apps for Maemo when using Android
i'm not sure if i have all the answers you require... a simple way to compare custom and regular ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
Rooting your SGS2 isnt as easy as typing "root" on the N900... you'll have to use CF Root with CWM (i think):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
and a list of useful Root/ROM links at Android Forums:
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s2-...guide-updated-12-00-pm-bst-jul-03-2011-a.html
i hope this helps
Thank you both. I'm not really a commercial app/program person.
I'm an active open source user. I love to modify and help with programs. I don't really like apple style control over programs.
I'm going to check those links. Thanks!
I hope I can try bring some of the work I made for Maemo over to android.
Most (90%) is terminal based, seems like droid users love the GUI stuff. Hehehe!
Well I will differ from Post 2. A custom ROM will bring more juice from battery? I don't believe it. It can definitely fix some bugs what the Stock one has, but nothing more than that. Also keep in mind there will be some glitch here and there in a Custom ROM.
I, personally, will never use a Custom ROM.
Regards.
kingoddball said:
Also, if anyone here can help with a small side question, the N900 has a FULL xterm with all available commands (/bin).
How do I go about getting such commands under android?
On Maemo it was as easy as "apt-get install //missing-command//"
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nope, in general this doesn't exist. you have a linux kernel with busybox (assuming you install this along with su), but afaik, that is the limit of what you might expect from a distro. All the apps are running in the android environment, unless you wanted to chroot into something like ubuntu. Whilst I suspect there are some distros that are close to running on an android phone (or netbook, like the ac100) you're no longer running android then.
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SL4A (Scripting Layer for Android) as a terminal emulator (shell python etc) and it is fully open source.
ithehappy said:
Well I will differ from Post 2. A custom ROM will bring more juice from battery? I don't believe it. It can definitely fix some bugs what the Stock one has, but nothing more than that. Also keep in mind there will be some glitch here and there in a Custom ROM.
I, personally, will never use a Custom ROM.
Regards.
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so then you, personally, will never know the difference between custom and stock. and yes, you can get better battery life with a custom rom. even a customized stock rom. with my infuse on infused 1.5 i got about 10-15% better battery life over stock.
boondoc said:
so then you, personally, will never know the difference between custom and stock. and yes, you can get better battery life with a custom rom. even a customized stock rom. with my infuse on infused 1.5 i got about 10-15% better battery life over stock.
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You answered by yourself.
That's what I meant anyway.
Regards.
there wasn't a question at hand to be answered...
Bit like why do people buy different cars .
Custom rom may add something or remove something from the phone is the basics .
jje
I found from flashing HTC Desire, that the cries of better battery life and performance on custom ROM's were generally over exaggeration or complete nonsense, as I tried loads of custom roms and the battery and performance remained the same throughout.
For this phone, my battery life is awesome anyway, and performance is awesome also. I also seem to be pretty much bug free, also
As for the technical questions and what not in this thread it's also gone over my head lol!
I for one will vouch for better battery and performance for custom roms. It only takes one disabled service/application to improve both categories.
Custom ROM's also add features you won't find in stock ROM's and arguably enhance existing features.
For example there is no reboot function on a stock ROM, but this is just one example. CM7 has a plethora of enhancements that simply rock, on the flip side there is still a few kinks it needs to work out, but with Cyanogen joining the samsung team it wont be long until a production phone comes out with CMx running on it.
You can just install 'Advanced Power Menu' for Reboot feature on a Stock ROM.
Altimas said:
I for one will vouch for better battery and performance for custom roms. It only takes one disabled service/application to improve both categories.
Custom ROM's also add features you won't find in stock ROM's and arguably enhance existing features.
For example there is no reboot function on a stock ROM, but this is just one example. CM7 has a plethora of enhancements that simply rock, on the flip side there is still a few kinks it needs to work out, but with Cyanogen joining the samsung team it wont be long until a production phone comes out with CMx running on it.
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I am interested in all of the benefits of using a custom ROM (especially theming) but what about the drawbacks? Don't you lose the optimizations that take advantage of the CPU/GPU?
What else would I be missing out on? I've been trying to find a thread dealing with this topic but am still searching.
.Arkham said:
I am interested in all of the benefits of using a custom ROM (especially theming) but what about the drawbacks? Don't you lose the optimizations that take advantage of the CPU/GPU?
What else would I be missing out on? I've been trying to find a thread dealing with this topic but am still searching.
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Their is no thread as their is no custom rom but many custom roms all with different features .
Why would you lose optimizations unless the custom rom developer decided to remove them and that would not really make sense .
The benefits of using a custom rom are that you can choose one with the features you required .
jje
JJEgan said:
Their is no thread as their is no custom rom but many custom roms all with different features .
Why would you lose optimizations unless the custom rom developer decided to remove them and that would not really make sense .
The benefits of using a custom rom are that you can choose one with the features you required .
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I know there's no single thread, what I meant was that it was hard to get the info about what the tradeoffs are of using various ROMs.
E.g. some do not have hardware acceleration (browser, video), and others don't let you use the stock app, etc... I've seen that some of the ROMs have made headway and do have hardware acceleration, but that seems to be the exception to the rule.
The only real alternative ROM is Cyanogenmod anyway. Any other rom is just some settings changed with notepad and some icons changed with photoshop.
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I know there's no single thread, what I meant was that it was hard to get the info about what the tradeoffs are of using various ROMs.
E.g. some do not have hardware acceleration (browser, video), and others don't let you use the stock app, etc... I've seen that some of the ROMs have made headway and do have hardware acceleration, but that seems to be the exception to the rule.
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Yeah you wont lose a thing, just gives you a chance to add more try leomars revolution rom, it got its own kitchen apo in market so you can install tweaks and themes from the app !
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You use custom roms if you think your cellphone isn't amazingly fast enough or if you think four buttons at the lower panel is to iPhone-ish. I personally love Samsung bloatware...
I just bought this phone the other day, after having an HTC Inspire for over a year. I really enjoyed the benefits of it being a sister phone of the Desire HD, such as really phenomenal ROM development.
I know that there aren't any sources released for this phone, but after using LordClockan's Ice Cold Sandwich, I just can't get used to this TouchWiz.
If anyone has started a project, I can help out with anything that I can.
If not, would anyone here like to try & help out?
My ROM building knowledge is non existent, but I'm dedicated to get this going.
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I sure hope so! I loved existz work on the Inspire!
one7dchevy said:
I sure hope so! I loved existz work on the Inspire!
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Him, TwistedUmbrella, and LordClockan's teamwork is a testament to the wonderful community her at XDA!
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I hope it's comming!
Have you tried the ICS roms that we DO have? They're not AOKP; but they run the AOSP stock apps and they've been themed well enough to be pretty damn close -- all while maintaining full s-pen capability, which is something even the CM9 folks can't claim yet (they don't have button functionality)...
Need kernel source first!!
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Have you tried the ICS roms that we DO have? They're not AOKP; but they run the AOSP stock apps and they've been themed well enough to be pretty damn close -- all while maintaining full s-pen capability, which is something even the CM9 folks can't claim yet (they don't have button functionality)...
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I hate to disagree but they arent even close (no offense to current devs, this isnt their fault).
S-pen functionality needs either the source from Samsung or a new driver has to be written from scratch, which isnt worth the time or effort considering that Samsung likely will soon be releasing source for ICS (usually a few weeks after the OS is officially released).And, if he rumors are true, ICS should be official soon (however, to be clear, I dont believe ICS is coming any time soon).
The reason these other roms have S-Pen support is, surprise surprise, they COPIED large sections of code from the stock leaked release, where, conveniently, everything ALREADY WORKS!!
Stock apps will almost always work on ANY rom with little to no modification required, regardless of whether they are from an AOSP rom.
The current roms are heavily based on the leaked ICS rom with only small tweaks universal between nearly all roms, things like themes, lockscreens, sounds, animations, etc. are all pretty simple if you know what you are doing (something admittedly, I have not personally built a rom but Im very familiar with the process).
When Cyanogen (or possibly AOKP, Im not familiar with their roms and how they are developed) is released, we will begin to see true rom development begin to happen. Until there is source code from Samsung, we will continue to see roms with Touchwiz all over them.
To show you how easy this is, here is a link to have a bot build a rom for you for any of the Galaxy 1 or 2 phones.
http://romkitchen.org/
Click your phone choice (Galaxy 1 or 2 currently, the Note is NOT supported yet).
Click Generator in the upper right hand corner.
Use the six tabs across the top of the page to choose your Modem, Kernel, Theme, stock apps, etc.
Of course, this only gives you a base to work with, from there, its pretty easy to swap in or out what you want.
Think about it like this, I can give you a copy of Windows already pre-configured for your PC and them or customize it just by changing some registry entries and including the data files (wallpapers for example). The included drivers would be pre-built meaning that 'I' didnt actually write them, nor did I change much in Windows, all I did was provide the files containing the data and changed a few settings to link to the files.
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Need kernel source first!!
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Not entirely true. I know some ICS roms that have been hacked to death to get at least partial functionality.
I'm thankful that some devs have taken their time to do what they have done, but what I am looking for hasn't been done.
AOKP is like AOSP, but more tweaks are added.
[edit] As for myself, I could care less about S Pen support. I haven't even used it, nor do I think I ever will. I got this phone for the monster sized screen.
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littlewierdo said:
I hate to disagree but they arent even close (no offense to current devs, this isnt their fault).
S-pen functionality needs either the source from Samsung or a new driver has to be written from scratch, which isnt worth the time or effort considering that Samsung likely will soon be releasing source for ICS (usually a few weeks after the OS is officially released).And, if he rumors are true, ICS should be official soon (however, to be clear, I dont believe ICS is coming any time soon).
The reason these other roms have S-Pen support is, surprise surprise, they COPIED large sections of code from the stock leaked release, where, conveniently, everything ALREADY WORKS!!
Stock apps will almost always work on ANY rom with little to no modification required, regardless of whether they are from an AOSP rom.
The current roms are heavily based on the leaked ICS rom with only small tweaks universal between nearly all roms, things like themes, lockscreens, sounds, animations, etc. are all pretty simple if you know what you are doing (something admittedly, I have not personally built a rom but Im very familiar with the process).
When Cyanogen (or possibly AOKP, Im not familiar with their roms and how they are developed) is released, we will begin to see true rom development begin to happen. Until there is source code from Samsung, we will continue to see roms with Touchwiz all over them.
To show you how easy this is, here is a link to have a bot build a rom for you for any of the Galaxy 1 or 2 phones.
http://romkitchen.org/
Click your phone choice (Galaxy 1 or 2 currently, the Note is NOT supported yet).
Click Generator in the upper right hand corner.
Use the six tabs across the top of the page to choose your Modem, Kernel, Theme, stock apps, etc.
Of course, this only gives you a base to work with, from there, its pretty easy to swap in or out what you want.
Think about it like this, I can give you a copy of Windows already pre-configured for your PC and them or customize it just by changing some registry entries and including the data files (wallpapers for example). The included drivers would be pre-built meaning that 'I' didnt actually write them, nor did I change much in Windows, all I did was provide the files containing the data and changed a few settings to link to the files.
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I appreciate the explanation, but you're not telling me anything I don't already know. I was just saying that our current roms have been themed/tweaked well enough to look like AOSP, so they're not that bad; and, you don't really have to deal with touchwiz annoyances anymore if you don't want to -- trebuchet, apex, and nova all work well.
CM9 or AOKP they're not, but they're exceptional given the single source-less leak we have right now... and they certainly blow away stock touchwiz GB! lol
littlewierdo said:
I hate to disagree but they arent even close (no offense to current devs, this isnt their fault).
S-pen functionality needs either the source from Samsung or a new driver has to be written from scratch, which isnt worth the time or effort considering that Samsung likely will soon be releasing source for ICS (usually a few weeks after the OS is officially released).And, if he rumors are true, ICS should be official soon (however, to be clear, I dont believe ICS is coming any time soon).
The reason these other roms have S-Pen support is, surprise surprise, they COPIED large sections of code from the stock leaked release, where, conveniently, everything ALREADY WORKS!!
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Pen apparently works in the CM9 build for the international note. Haven't looked at the source myself yet, but it is probably just the standard wacom driver.
zonyl said:
Pen apparently works in the CM9 build for the international note. Haven't looked at the source myself yet, but it is probably just the standard wacom driver.
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AFAIK, they haven't gotten the button to work yet, but it's promising.
Its going to take a lot kf time and effort and prob a group effort to get aosp or aokp roms for our phone. I believe the reason skyrocket and 989 have it is because they have had a lot of devs working together for long time on it. I can get a booted aosp rom hut no sound no camera no data. So theres a lot of work needed to be done
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My question is plain and simple. I mean, I do know the benefits of rooting like backing up apps, removing bloatware, over/underclocking and so on. But in my own experience rooting the device and putting a custom rom in it automatically made the device less stable and more battery hungry (for some weird reason) plus added many many bugs which made me question why did I do it in the first place. So I'm asking do you feel any improvement whatsoever while using any custom rom? Or do you use custom rom just because you can?
It has thousans of reasons.. For simple example while every unrooted users rumor "when will come jely bean? I'm tired of waiting!!" Etc.. i run 4.1.1 jely bean on my SGS3 for 3 months.. its enough.
If you like always research for better and better mobile experience, you have to root your phone. Or simply just say yes for your brand's supply.
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lolkoz said:
My question is plain and simple. I mean, I do know the benefits of rooting like backing up apps, removing bloatware, over/underclocking and so on. But in my own experience rooting the device and putting a custom rom in it automatically made the device less stable and more battery hungry (for some weird reason) plus added many many bugs which made me question why did I do it in the first place. So I'm asking do you feel any improvement whatsoever while using any custom rom? Or do you use custom rom just because you can?
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since everbody is aware that customization can happen better with a custom rom over and above the stock one.
and regarding improvement, well it all depends on what sort of customization u need and accordingly the Custom rom and kernel u choose. which do vary from person to person.
and nobody use custom rom because they can but because they need the same to customize the phone accordingly to there need.
lolkoz said:
My question is plain and simple. I mean, I do know the benefits of rooting like backing up apps, removing bloatware, over/underclocking and so on. But in my own experience rooting the device and putting a custom rom in it automatically made the device less stable and more battery hungry (for some weird reason) plus added many many bugs which made me question why did I do it in the first place. So I'm asking do you feel any improvement whatsoever while using any custom rom? Or do you use custom rom just because you can?
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From my experience with my HTC Desire on which I tried a lot of different ROMs you can either:
1) Flash a stable ROM, benefit is that most of the time its faster than stock & includes additional features and is 99% stable. In addition ROMs are improved all the time and new features added that you might not get on your stock ROM or only very late
2) Flash a ROM that is currently under development and not stable, e.g. earlier ICS ROMs for the HTC Desire had features missing and were not very stable
In my case I started with stable ROMs as I need my phone as daily driver, after I got more experienced I switched to (2) and tried the not so stable ROMs as I always like to try new things etc. and you will get all those new features and improvements (sometimes on the cost of stability and or speed).
Basically up to you what you want to do.
For my Galaxy S III I will also start with a rooted stock ROM as currently I do not see that much benefits in the custom ROMs yet (please correct me if I am wrong).
The answer is also plain and simple. Rooting is to unlock your phone for more customisation and some extra features.
Why we need more customisation and extra features? Because we get bored easily and because we can.
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There is a really good article you can read here.
You just get so much more with root. Without root i would have been stock with stock rom on my htc desire and my xoom. The brilliant roms that are on here have provided me with so much more and given me an amazing experience with android.
Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
BraeA said:
Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
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First of all welcome to the forums and we'll done for leaving Apple lol.
Nightly is a term given for a Rom that is released every night.mostly new mods and tweaks to improve or intend to improve on from the last nightly.these are seen as betas and every now and again a stable or milestone version will be released.
There is no real reason why you should root. It's whether you want to benefit from having full system control or not that you would do it. It's up to you.
Flashing roms such as super nexus does have its downside as it's built from open source. As Samsung do not release all of their sources some parts are taken from the open source project. This means they do not always take full advantage of the hardware. An example of this is the camera in aosp/aokp/cm roms is not as good as the stock camera in touch wiz roms.
Battery life is also reported to be better in stock Roms than on aokp/aosp/cm and from personal experience I'd have to agree.
Hope this helps a little.
There is a lot that can be done when rooted but if you're not fussed about messing with the system then dont do it.
Drew
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and questions go to the questions section
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And I missed that fundamental point lol
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BraeA said:
Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
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Rooting on it's own will not brick, slow down or loose battery life etc, it's what you do with the phone after you root that can do this, things like overclocking will affect battery, undervolting and underclocking will affect performance, but what you can do after rooting is things like use faster fix to slightly increase gps fix time, you can block ads, you can modify any system file etc etc, you can essentially do anything.
Latest Nightly is a term used for the latest version of CyanogenMod, which is an aftermarket firmware (custom ROM) new versions are built on their servers every night hence the name Nightly.
drew071 said:
First of all welcome to the forums and we'll done for leaving Apple lol.
Nightly is a term given for a Rom that is released every night.mostly new mods and tweaks to improve or intend to improve on from the last nightly.these are seen as betas and every now and again a stable or milestone version will be released.
There is no real reason why you should root. It's whether you want to benefit from having full system control or not that you would do it. It's up to you.
Flashing roms such as super nexus does have its downside as it's built from open source. As Samsung do not release all of their sources some parts are taken from the open source project. This means they do not always take full advantage of the hardware. An example of this is the camera in aosp/aokp/cm roms is not as good as the stock camera in touch wiz roms.
Battery life is also reported to be better in stock Roms than on aokp/aosp/cm and from personal experience I'd have to agree.
Hope this helps a little.
There is a lot that can be done when rooted but if you're not fussed about messing with the system then dont do it.
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
Aosp looks considerably better than the stock firmwares also known as TouchWiz (Samsung's ghastly user interface)
But aosp-based roms for this phone sucks plain abs simple because Samsung doesn't hand out the source code for their SoC (System on a chip)
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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CM10.1 is very smooth and in my opinion even smoother compared to Stock TouchWiz. Just flash it and if you for some reason don`t like it, you can always go back to a Stock TouchWiz ROM. There are plenty to choose from here at XDA. Oh and don`t ask what`s the best ROM around here, just try them out yourself
Oh and if you deside to Root and to flash a ROM on your device then read every little detail on how to do it. I`ve seen plenty of cases here, where people screwed up their devices because they flashed wrong stuff on their phone.
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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Its considerably smoother! If CM10.1 is hot butter, then TouchWiz is cold syrup.
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BraeA said:
Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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Theshawty said:
Aosp looks considerably better than the stock firmwares also known as TouchWiz (Samsung's ghastly user interface)
But aosp-based roms for this phone sucks plain abs simple because Samsung doesn't hand out the source code for their SoC (System on a chip)
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It is smooth but as theshawty had pointed out it's not as good as it could be due to Sammy.
If you want a mix of both worlds you would do better looking for a stable stock based Rom and then theming it to suit. There isn't much to gain from flashing cm atm. If you want the launcher just download nova, apex or halo as these are the same as stock Google launcher used in cm builds.
Drew
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Rooting itself does not do much difference unless you flash roms. I suggest you try Cyanogenmod, AOKP for starters. Then you can go with others like RootBox, PAC man ROm or ParanoidKangdroid which for me are the best there are. Other ROMs like Carbon and Liquidsmooth are pretty good too.
I suggest you download Goomanager first and browse between compatible Roms. Also learn how to do Nandroid backups and regular. Trust me, you're gonna need them.
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As mentioned in previous posts cyanogen based roms FOR S3 in my opinion are not as smooth as expected. If u install a custom samsung based rom and a good kernel, i find that they are as smooth or sometimes smoother than cyanogen. Also the latest full stock samsung roms and kernels are really smooth and battery friendly.
As u dont have an issue in rooting. u should try all roms n decide.
And rooting does have many benefits. Especially the audio mods will completely change the audio quality of your phone. ACID with boeffla sound control is amazing. Get good quality earphones also to experience this.
Every since the ics release ui hasn't hardly changed a bit from ics to jb ui,the biggest change over from any android
O.s was from gb to ics.
Anyone agree that Jb roms aren't even remotely unique as they used to be with the gingerbread o.s and older o.s systems .
The way Roms, were themed and made back in the day to compared to every single custom rom now for jb aside from a few setting tweaks they are all the same looking .. almost as if theming is hard and it's to much work for devs to make they're roms ui look, different from any other . This is only speaking on original android development based of stock release .
What's the point in flashing anymore .
Unless you go for a TOTAL Change over with cm10 or aokp, stock based roms lack a unique ui, and theming from Rom to Rom, they all mimic stock with maybe power toggles built in and a claimed battery saving kernel.
This must be why at the end of the day everyone reverts back to their stock nandroids.
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abcdefg1234567 said:
Every since the ics release ui hasn't hardly changed a bit from ics to jb ui,the biggest change over from any android
O.s was from gb to ics.
Anyone agree that Jb roms aren't even remotely unique as they used to be with the gingerbread o.s and older o.s systems .
The way Roms, were themed and made back in the day to compared to every single custom rom now for jb aside from a few setting tweaks they are all the same looking .. almost as if theming is hard and it's to much work for devs to make they're roms ui look, different from any other . This is only speaking on original android development based of stock release .
What's the point in flashing anymore .
Unless you go for a TOTAL Change over with cm10 or aokp, stock based roms lack a unique ui, and theming from Rom to Rom, they all mimic stock with maybe power toggles built in and a claimed battery saving kernel.
This must be why at the end of the day everyone reverts back to their stock nandroids.
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I have not yet flashed, but you don't mention that many of the ROMs are dodexed, which makes them faster. Maybe it isn't that important with the faster processors these days.
Also, the chefs are putting in a lot more than meets the eye - more than eye candy (depending on the chef, of course).
I'm not using their ROMs right now, but I value their work and dedication.
I don't know why you're complaining. Clearly you have no idea what a launcher is. That's what the "LOOK" you're talking about is. Devs now focus on making roms clean and run more efficiently. YOU can make it look however YOU want. The dev doesn't need to clutter the base rom with stuff most people won't use.
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