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HTC has a long history of both raising and dashing hopes of Android upgrades on its devices. Moreover, the Australian network Telstra has often led that emotional rollercoaster, which means the detail on its software update page above is probably best approached with an air of detached calm. It tells us that both the HTC One XL (the global version of the American One X) and the One S have official Jelly Bean updates being "prepared" by HTC -- which is slightly more specific than what we last heard on this subject, when the manufacturer said it was "excited" about Google's latest OS version and planned to support it "across a variety" of handsets. If you happen to own a non-LTE, Tegra 3-based One X, then the absence of that handset on the list doesn't mean much -- that model simply isn't part of the carrier's line-up.
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(UPDATE): Confirmed by HTC for One X, XL, and S
Cool find, but still willing to bet at least 6 months before it hits state side.
Kcarpenter said:
Cool find, but still willing to bet at least 6 months before it hits state side.
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Maybe, but at least we know they're working on it. This is pretty exciting because it should mean we'll get it pretty soon as well.
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Maybe, but at least we know they're working on it. This is pretty exciting because it should mean we'll get it pretty soon as well.
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We'll have it unofficially long before its ever released by HTC/Sprint
I'm mostly excited about getting the Google Now features.
I think HTC will actually hurry up with this. They released a flagship lineup about a month before announcement. If they don't update it soon, their reputation may go down the drain. A major smartphone company that cannot keep flagship device up to date is laughable. And more reasons for iSheep to take a stab at whole issue.
I know the official Evo LTE update is far off, but if official JB released on One X, maybe it will allow our amazing developers port it faster.
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Maybe, but at least we know they're working on it. This is pretty exciting because it should mean we'll get it pretty soon as well.
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I kinda have it working, in a very half-assed way on Sense 4.0. Cards freeze, voice does not work, but it's an interesting idea.
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I think HTC will actually hurry up with this. They released a flagship lineup about a month before announcement. If they don't update it soon, their reputation may go down the drain. A major smartphone company that cannot keep flagship device up to date is laughable. And more reasons for iSheep to take a stab at whole issue.
I know the official Evo LTE update is far off, but if official JB released on One X, maybe it will allow our amazing developers port it faster.
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I kinda have it working, in a very half-assed way on Sense 4.0. Cards freeze, voice does not work, but it's an interesting idea.
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I'm not as worried about HTC getting it done as much as Sprint getting their heads out of their asses and just getting it out there as soon as they get it.
Meanee said:
I think HTC will actually hurry up with this. They released a flagship lineup about a month before announcement. If they don't update it soon, their reputation may go down the drain. A major smartphone company that cannot keep flagship device up to date is laughable. And more reasons for iSheep to take a stab at whole issue.
I know the official Evo LTE update is far off, but if official JB released on One X, maybe it will allow our amazing developers port it faster.
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I kinda have it working, in a very half-assed way on Sense 4.0. Cards freeze, voice does not work, but it's an interesting idea.
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Can't always go by that. Look how long it took Samsung to get Gingerbread out to the GS I variants and the GS II are just getting ICS but Samsung is still the top smartphone company in the world and the GS brand is second behind the iPhone in sales.
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Can't always go by that. Look how long it took Samsung to get Gingerbread out to the GS I variants and the GS II are just getting ICS but Samsung is still the top smartphone company in the world and the GS brand is second behind the iPhone in sales.
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Yeah. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 still doesn't have ICS on it.
I will chime in and say let's not forget how quickly Sprint updated the EVO 4G from Eclair to Froyo to Gingerbread. It was technically the first U.S. phone upgraded to Froyo outside the Nexus line. It received numerous updates regularly as it was their biggest phone to date. The 3D was kind of a bastard child and came out when there wasn't any major new phone release of Android. So when ICS was announced it was back to the usual wait game. Plus all OEM's were pretty slow on ICS upgrades since it was a major upgrade instead of a point release. Since Jelly Bean is just a point release I'm sure HTC will be faster to upgrade Sense to accommodate the new features just as they have in the past. Plus as mentioned they just released all of their flagship phones so this upgrade is important for them as new flagships still have another year before release.
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I will chime in and say let's not forget how quickly Sprint updated the EVO 4G from Eclair to Froyo to Gingerbread. It was technically the first U.S. phone upgraded to Froyo outside the Nexus line. It received numerous updates regularly as it was their biggest phone to date. The 3D was kind of a bastard child and came out when there wasn't any major new phone release of Android. So when ICS was announced it was back to the usual wait game. Plus all OEM's were pretty slow on ICS upgrades since it was a major upgrade instead of a point release. Since Jelly Bean is just a point release I'm sure HTC will be faster to upgrade Sense to accommodate the new features just as they have in the past. Plus as mentioned they just released all of their flagship phones so this upgrade is important for them as new flagships still have another year before release.
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I can agree with this. As long as they don't screw us like they did with the EVO 3D (which is still without ICS).
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I can agree with this. As long as they don't screw us like they did with the EVO 3D (which is still without ICS).
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Lol I know what you mean and maybe I'm just optimistic but I don't think they will. The EVO 4G LTE is now the equivalent of what the EVO 4G was back when it was released. It's Sprint's baby and they want to keep it popular. You noticed they actually have commercials and ads promoting it and how quickly they had a commercial when they released the white version. Plus the biggest thing to factor in is it's the middle of the year, there is no other EVO coming out until around this time next year, there is no next big thing for them to sit on the update so that you go out and buy it. As far as the EVO goes this is it. (I don't count phones like the design or shift cause they aren't flagships just carriers of the EVO brand name to sell phones)
I thought the One XL was the S4 version?
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Lol I know what you mean and maybe I'm just optimistic but I don't think they will. The EVO 4G LTE is now the equivalent of what the EVO 4G was back when it was released. It's Sprint's baby and they want to keep it popular. You noticed they actually have commercials and ads promoting it and how quickly they had a commercial when they released the white version. Plus the biggest thing to factor in is it's the middle of the year, there is no other EVO coming out until around this time next year, there is no next big thing for them to sit on the update so that you go out and buy it. As far as the EVO goes this is it. (I don't count phones like the design or shift cause they aren't flagships just carriers of the EVO brand name to sell phones)
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Well, when the EVO 3D came out, it had a lot of strong backing from Sprint commercials because of all the "Unlimited Data" commercials. It was always featured. But it quickly died off because it was literally a stepchild.
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I thought the One XL was the S4 version?
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It is..the one xl is the s4 version of the hox..att didn't wanna name it that bc they wanted the original hox moniker and exclusivity of the one x line
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It is..the one xl is the s4 version of the hox..att didn't wanna name it that bc they wanted the original hox moniker and exclusivity of the one x line
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I was curious because the article mentioned something about non-Tegra devices getting upgrades, when the XL is an S4 device.
But I only skimmed, it makes more sense now that I read it more thoroughly.
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Well, when the EVO 3D came out, it had a lot of strong backing from Sprint commercials because of all the "Unlimited Data" commercials. It was always featured. But it quickly died off because it was literally a stepchild.
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Ok, I didn't really pay attention to those commercials. And yes it was. It reached EOL much quicker than the EVO 4G.
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I was curious because the article mentioned something about non-Tegra devices getting upgrades, when the XL is an S4 device.
But I only skimmed, it makes more sense now that I read it more thoroughly.
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Yeah I think what the article was trying to get at was that you should expect an update for the One X as well because the only phones Telstra carries are the One XL and One S so they wouldn't mention it. And HTC won't update the XL without updating the X
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I'm mostly excited about getting the Google Now features.
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This. I'm really excited about this and the rest of the upgrades will be a bonus :good:
After December fellas
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After December fellas
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Dont know why but those three words hold more weight than this entire thread
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So, with the chance of getting flamed or... flaming myself depending on the reaction to this. SprintFeed apparently got word that the Galaxy S II will be hitting Sprint first, on September 9th, ahead of all other carriers.
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/08/rumor-samsung-epic-touch-4g-releasing-september-9th/
There is the link.
Just thought any defectors would like the heads up. I personally am sticking with my 3Devo.
From the screenshots it looks to be the same phone. No concrete answer on if it's packing a Snapdragon which had been rumored or if it's sticking with Exynos. *Shrug* guess we shall find out.
Awesome, can't wait. Jk Samsung sucks.
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Damn Sprint is on a roll. Hopefully they get the Nexus Prime when it comes out. That's the only phone I'm interested in. The GS2 should of came out earlier. Samsung waited to long in my opinion, But nevertheless Sprint has a good line up this year.
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Damn Sprint is on a roll. Hopefully they get the Nexus Prime when it comes out. That's the only phone I'm interested in. The GS2 should of came out earlier. Samsung waited to long in my opinion, But nevertheless Sprint has a good line up this year.
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Yeah, the only reason I can see why they waited was because of the pressure from Apple and it's "your phone looks like mah phone!" 6-year old meltdown of a lawsuit that has been going on. I dunno.
Any defectors are probably hanging out in the sgs2 forum where apparently the op needs to be.
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Any defectors are probably hanging out in the sgs2 forum where apparently the op needs to be.
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Oh snap you got me!.
Wow, I was all "general information" and you were like "Eat it, OP!"
and I was like "Oh snap!"
I was going to go the SGS2 route but it's just too little too late. The E3D in modded form can outpace a stock SGS2 easily...and the nPrime is right around the corner.
I used to love HTC and I've really grown to like the E3D General forum, y'all is cool peoples (most of the time)...but aside from the unlock fiasco I can't stand the ****ty radio and the strange behavior when powering on/off really makes me feel like one day it won't turn back on again....especially when I've seen it happen right in front of me.
...but I sure as hell will not post a thread here about it. Nothin' personal OP, just sayin'...
About time
daneurysm said:
I was going to go the SGS2 route but it's just too little too late. The E3D in modded form can outpace a stock SGS2 easily...and the nPrime is right around the corner.
I used to love HTC and I've really grown to like the E3D General forum, y'all is cool peoples (most of the time)...but aside from the unlock fiasco I can't stand the ****ty radio and the strange behavior when powering on/off really makes me feel like one day it won't turn back on again....especially when I've seen it happen right in front of me.
...but I sure as hell will not post a thread here about it. Nothin' personal OP, just sayin'...
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Well, I know a lot of people aren't happy with the Evo 3D, I decided to drop this nugget and see how it went. Like I said, I'm happy with my evo. My Radios don't suck too bad, only thing I have issue with is a Black SOD every 9hrs when using a custom kernel... which I can workaround with a stock kernel.
You're post is a little confusing. so... you're waiting for the nPrime?. that's how it sounded. That's looking to be an October release, it's being made by Samsung too. Which I find odd, I would think Motorola would be involved. I know it was just recently announced that Google was going to buy them, but...I assumed it was in the making to be some big lead up. oh well, probably next year.
I'd think I'd like it more if it didn't look like the iPhone had a retarded son.
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You're post is a little confusing. so...
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You're confusing. And your justification for starting this thread is unfounded.
Yea another Samsung phone post in the Evo3d forum, to me its just trolling, and by page 5 it'll turn into another htc vs samsung tech flame fest.
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Well, I know a lot of people aren't happy with the Evo 3D, I decided to drop this nugget and see how it went. Like I said, I'm happy with my evo. My Radios don't suck too bad, only thing I have issue with is a Black SOD every 9hrs when using a custom kernel... which I can workaround with a stock kernel.
You're post is a little confusing. so... you're waiting for the nPrime?. that's how it sounded. That's looking to be an October release, it's being made by Samsung too. Which I find odd, I would think Motorola would be involved. I know it was just recently announced that Google was going to buy them, but...I assumed it was in the making to be some big lead up. oh well, probably next year.
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Thank god I don't get the Black SOD...
Yeah, I'm waiting for the nPrime. It's being made by Samsung which, while at first really put me off but I did sport an NS4G for a few weeks last month. Aside from feeling cheap and too light--which most people wouldn't see as a down side--it was actually a fantastic phone. Great battery life, phenomenal camera and an unmatched Android experience. It did have the traditionally weak Samsung radio, but, it seems that you can't escape that anymore.
...and so far as Motorola is concerned Google has assured it's partners that the bidding process for the Nexus line would in fact remain the same. Google is saying all but "listen, we bought MMi for the patents. The Set-top-box and mobile manufacturing is just a plus, that we don't intend to use." Of course time will tell how true that is. For the time being I believe them.
However a Motorola built Nexus would probably be fantastic as long as they ditch that ****ty Pentile screen technology. I bet they would have class leading radios and battery life too.
daneurysm said:
Thank god I don't get the Black SOD...
Yeah, I'm waiting for the nPrime. It's being made by Samsung which, while at first really put me off but I did sport an NS4G for a few weeks last month. Aside from feeling cheap and too light--which most people wouldn't see as a down side--it was actually a fantastic phone. Great battery life, phenomenal camera and an unmatched Android experience. It did have the traditionally weak Samsung radio, but, it seems that you can't escape that anymore.
...and so far as Motorola is concerned Google has assured it's partners that the bidding process for the Nexus line would in fact remain the same. Google is saying all but "listen, we bought MMi for the patents. The Set-top-box and mobile manufacturing is just a plus, that we don't intend to use." Of course time will tell how true that is. For the time being I believe them.
However a Motorola built Nexus would probably be fantastic as long as they ditch that ****ty Pentile screen technology. I bet they would have class leading radios and battery life too.
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Yea MOTO isn't far from being a great phone manufacturer..they do have pretty good build quality and their radios are bar none..they have been in that game for a while..ditch all MOTO blur or map and the pentile..add some Google magic and we could have a winner in a few months.
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Yea another Samsung phone post in the Evo3d forum, to me its just trolling, and by page 5 it'll turn into another htc vs samsung tech flame fest.
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ME?.. troll?!..
how dare you make such accusations, sir!
Well, if (when) that happens, I'll be on the HTC side. totally didn't mean for it turn into a Vs. thread if (when) that happens. should I edit my initial post and say how stupid Samsung and the SGS2 is or just wait? lol
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Yea MOTO isn't far from being a great phone manufacturer..they do have pretty good build quality and their radios are bar none..they have been in that game for a while..ditch all MOTO blur or map and the pentile..add some Google magic and we could have a winner in a few months.
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Agreed. Their designs are a bit stodgy looking, but their hardware (aside from those horrible screens and penchant for keyboards) is rock solid. They nearly invented cellular mobile phone technology. They have been doing mobile communications for as long as there has been a commercial mobile communications market. Their radios are fantastic. Build quality is always awesome. How many OG Droids do you still see around? Tons...and I have seen a lot that are beaten to death physically but still kicking ass, 2nd hand, 3rd hand...that says quite a bit.
Without knowing anything about the contents of their patent portfolio I am confident that it contains thousands of very relevant patents. I can't wait to see Google's next move.
I came from the Epic 4G to the Evo 3D. The main thing about Samsung was there slowwwwww release of updates. The Epic 4G rolled out with Eclair, took a while to get Froyo and is still awaiting Gingerbread. This really seem slow down ROM and kernel development. HTC seems pretty spot on with their OS updates.
I am waiting to see if Samsung support for their phones has improved. If it has, maybe I would consider going back. Until then, my Evo 3D is the shizzle.
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ME?.. troll?!..
how dare you make such accusations, sir.
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ME?.. troll?!..
how dare you make such accusations, sir!
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and will we see anything soon?
this phone has been out for a while but i cant seem to find any ROMs for it. whats the holdup?
im looking between the amaze and sensation, the amaze has better/stronger hardware but the sensation has a hugeeee development team..
is it worth it to get the amaze?
Yes.
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Yes.
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thank you for your well thought out and informative answer.
Try the development section
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grimey01 said:
and will we see anything soon?
this phone has been out for a while but i cant seem to find any ROMs for it. whats the holdup?
im looking between the amaze and sensation, the amaze has better/stronger hardware but the sensation has a hugeeee development team..
is it worth it to get the amaze?
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A lot of people believe that developers don't want to cook for this phone due to S-ON. The phone should hopefully have S-OFF soon though, so we'll see if this is truly the case or not. Right now there only about 3 or 4 ROMs available (most are not on XDA though). Once HTC releases the ICS update for the Amaze, I think we'll also see a boost in development. Hope this helps.
Edit: also HTC hasn't released some driver code, so devs are having a hard time fixing things in their ICS builds.
MildewMan said:
A lot of people believe that developers don't want to cook for this phone due to S-ON. The phone should hopefully have S-OFF soon though, so we'll see if this is truly the case or not. Right now there only about 3 or 4 ROMs available (most are not on XDA though). Once HTC releases the ICS update for the Amaze, I think we'll also see a boost in development. Hope this helps.
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theres no s-off yet? now that makes a bit more sense
hmmm.. i guess i'll buy it anyway.
id rather have a working phone with basic ROMs instead of a huge selection of ROMs on a phone with touchscreen and deathgrip issues (sensation)
grimey01 said:
theres no s-off yet? now that makes a bit more sense
hmmm.. i guess i'll buy it anyway.
id rather have a working phone with basic ROMs instead of a huge selection of ROMs on a phone with touchscreen and deathgrip issues (sensation)
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I guess you could if you want to, or you could wait just a bit (if possible) until the HTC Ones come out. I'm sure those phones will get S-OFF very quickly and a lot of dev action...probably more than this phone will ever see. :/
MildewMan said:
I guess you could if you want to, or you could wait just a bit (if possible) until the HTC Ones come out. I'm sure those phones will get S-OFF very quickly and a lot of dev action...probably more than this phone will ever see. :/
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the only one with AWS (1700/2100) is the one x.. t-mobile/wind/mobilicity need to get themselves some better phones
maybe i should just hold out though.. OR MOVE TO SAMSUNG!
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Try the development section
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ROFL!!!! I was laughing for a good 5 minutes. Lol
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grimey01 said:
the only one with AWS (1700/2100) is the one x.. t-mobile/wind/mobilicity need to get themselves some better phones
maybe i should just hold out though.. OR MOVE TO SAMSUNG!
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I mean the Amaze and Sensation aren't bad phones, and I think they are getting the S and the X, so they don't have a terrible selection of phones (I think Sprint holds that honor). Personally I just don't like the way Samsung screens look. Not a big fan of SAMOLED. qHD and LCD look so much better to me.
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I mean the Amaze and Sensation aren't bad phones, and I think they are getting the S and the X, so they don't have a terrible selection of phones (I think Sprint holds that honor). Personally I just don't like the way Samsung screens look. Not a big fan of SAMOLED. qHD and LCD look so much better to me.
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yea ive always been a fan of HTC. they just feel solid in the hand, not plastic-y and cheap like samsung.
AWS carriers have been getting better phones over the years but it still doesnt compare to the selection rogers/at&t gets.
usually i know exactly which phone i want but im so confused right now LOL.
what do you think the retail for the one s will be? 5-600?
grimey01 said:
yea ive always been a fan of HTC. they just feel solid in the hand, not plastic-y and cheap like samsung.
AWS carriers have been getting better phones over the years but it still doesnt compare to the selection rogers/at&t gets.
usually i know exactly which phone i want but im so confused right now LOL.
what do you think the retail for the one s will be? 5-600?
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Yeah I know what you mean. I love the Amaze; I think it's an excellent phone with a great camera/specs/etc, but I do hope that it gets some more dev love once that S-OFF tool is released. (Actually as soon as we get our first fully functional ICS rom, I think I will love this phone forever....and by that I mean until I see a shiny new phone lol). ICS is just so smooth. I installed an ICS ROM on my MT4G, and I can immediately see a huge increase in performance over CyanogenMod 7.
Off contract, I'd probably guess ~$600-650 for the S. If TMo gets the X, I'm sure it will be the most expensive Android phone ever seen haha (probably $700-750).
there's no development now for the amaze because nobody wants to put in hours in a rom that they know nobody will use once the update comes out. So now's the time nobody's doing anything, and you won't see anything new til 4.0 comes out. Good things will happen when 4.0 is released
Don't get me wrong, the amaze is the best device I've owned, there is just a lack of info and support from tmo and htc. Hopefully with s off, more devs will come, so yes buy it
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both of your trivial questions could be answered with simple observation...
Q. "why is there no development?"
A. um, maybe because we have only have a few devs here? maybe because we had s-on for the longest until recently? who knows?
Q. "what do you think the retail for the one s will be? 5-600?"
A. most of us here arent shopping for a new amaze...have you tried ebay? how about craigslist?
not trying to be an ass, but people come in here every day asking superfluous questions when a little legwork on their own would answer these types of questions...
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I put most of the blame for stagnant development squarely on HTC's shoulders. I have always liked the build quality of HTC hardware, but I had never purchased any of their devices due to my loathing of Sense.
I bought this one based on thier claim of allowing full development for the device, but that's a bit misleading. If we can get S-OFF and get some good AOSP roms, I'll be happy. I'd love AOSP ICS, but I'll even live with GB.
I realize there are some Sense fanboys, I'm just not one of them. There is nothing about Sense that appeals to me and I want it completely gone.
My hats off to the devs who had to scratch and claw to work through HTC's BS. Great device, great camera, but you're enjoyment with the device will depend on just how much you like compromise.
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I put most of the blame for stagnant development squarely on HTC's shoulders. I have always liked the build quality of HTC hardware, but I had never purchased any of their devices due to my loathing of Sense.
I bought this one based on thier claim of allowing full development for the device, but that's a bit misleading. If we can get S-OFF and get some good AOSP roms, I'll be happy. I'd love AOSP ICS, but I'll even live with GB.
I realize there are some Sense fanboys, I'm just not one of them. There is nothing about Sense that appeals to me and I want it completely gone.
My hats off to the devs who had to scratch and claw to work through HTC's BS. Great device, great camera, but you're enjoyment with the device will depend on just how much you like compromise.
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i always thought HTC was good to the tweakers... XDA was built for HTC phones after all..
the only hardware issue i hear about this phone is some light-leaking near the bottom-side ends of the screen. not a big deal at all compared to sensations problems, although the sensation looks a lot better IMO
ill get the amaze. s-off and ICS seems like itll happen soon
hopefully development picks up
I agree with wanting aosp ics, but I kind of like sense on GB. The vanilla ui of ics is great though and doesn't need sense.
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I don't think HTC is going to push ICS out till the One series is fully launched.
Good Morning my fellow Jetstream owners.
I have some trusted contacts that have informed me that HTC is not likely to produce an ice cream sandwich ROM for jetstream.
It is a simple business decision, it costs a ton of money to develop, test and support a build. So I have to agree with the decision.
Having said that, I am working on a plan with HTC and a developer to partner up and develop a ROM for us. As far as a I know this will be the first time an XDA dev and HTC have partnered on a dev project.
I will keep this forum updated on progress.
Russ741
Well, on one hand I'm happy to hear that we might some day get ics.
On the other hand, I feel like I deserv an official answer after spending all that money.
Thanks for the information.
The thing I'm sure of - I wil never purchase htc again.
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Well, on one hand I'm happy to hear that we might some day get ics.
On the other hand, I feel like I deserv an official answer after spending all that money.
Thanks for the information.
The thing I'm sure of - I wil never purchase htc again.
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I must agree with guru_shastri! This tablet is one of the most expensive tablets in the Android tablet market space, and for HTC to deny its customer information on future upgrades is shameful! If you are no longer going to support a product do what HP did and DROP THE PRICE! I will never buy an HTC product ever again, phone or tablet. This is why HTC is loosing money...
I really hope this project takes place and does not end up born dead as it is the same for me, I hadeverything HTC, phone (Desire Z) two tabs (Flyer and jetstream) but I move simply away from HTC as not ICS on any of these devices. Samsung Glide Keyboard phone that will receive ICS, Huawei 7" Mediapad already on ICS and waiting for the Galaxy tab Note 10"
HTC wake up!! You are loosing a important customer base by not providing support to devices less than a year old and so expensive!!
No ICS update, no more buy products made by HTC
I'm very disappointed by the response of the HTC as they will not to provide any ICS upgrades for the HTC Jetstream. This item is very expensinve and thus we, as a customer, deserve receiving ICS update considering other cheaper items from HTC got major updates.
When it comes to me, 'No ICS update' means no more buying products made by HTC.
This is the biggest flaw in Android.
03457840723304580 devices running different OSes, as seen from the Android developer's site here:
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It is really a wrench in the gears.
AND, google announcing Jelly Bean Nexus devices this Winter... really?
Considering everyone is running 2.3.3 mostly, why would you want to begin implementing 5.0? Big game of catch up. Sorry. Had to rant.
As I posted elsewhere on this thread.
Here is my reply from HTC yesterday.
Dear.....
At this time we do not have any information as to what the next update will be for the Jetstream or any other HTC tablets. The information is not available as to whether or not the Jetstream will get Ice Cream Sandwich or a HTC Sense update. The current version of Sense is HTC Sense 1.1 for the tablet.
I hope this helps. If any information is released, most of the time it is posted on our Facebook page. That is where the information has been posted in the past for devices that are to receive updates.
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I agree with people's remarks here. Shame on HTC, to abandon any upgrades, Sense or ICS, for such a high end tablet.
Biggest brand killer, is to make and sell high end products and then not support it.
The person making these sort of decisions should be fired.
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A little disapppointing, but I can't complain. I paid 169 dollars for it on a one year contract with Rogers.
I feel like such a fool for not getting the lenovo thinkpad now. I used to be a fan of HTC but now I've traded my Evo 3D for a nexus and the Jetstream might be next. If you can get them to cooperate with helping developers get a working 4.0 build I would be very appreciative. The tablet has the horsepower but the software cripples it to merely passable.
Moping won't help us.
the flyer forum has 2 or 3 ics versions in progress. they got a developer to help them, for money, and he got them the breakthrough.
bounty is the way to go. the device is far cheaper now, if we had more money we could get one for another developer..
Not that it will help but for clarification, they said they would continue to support Honeycomb on the Flyer/Evo and JetStream, but were not going ahead with ICS.
Makes me sick too, but I had to clarify.
I don't know why they don't just release the source after a period after they say, "no more upgrades." With open source OSes it only makes sense to allow people who bought the devices to tinker with them once the retailer has essentially...committed themselves to abandoning their customers.
Google should really think long and hard about the Apache licensing compact thingy thing and see what they can do about these lame manufacturers who are bleeding us dry.
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Ah, I just posted over in the General section about this. I'd like to help out with the dev if I can. I want nothing to do with the bounty, but I will contribute up to $50 if it will help get an HTC dev involved.
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Not that it will help but for clarification, they said they would continue to support Honeycomb on the Flyer/Evo and JetStream, but were not going ahead with ICS.
Makes me sick too, but I had to clarify.
I don't know why they don't just release the source after a period after they say, "no more upgrades." With open source OSes it only makes sense to allow people who bought the devices to tinker with them once the retailer has essentially...committed themselves to abandoning their customers.
Google should really think long and hard about the Apache licensing compact thingy thing and see what they can do about these lame manufacturers who are bleeding us dry.
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How nice of them to "support" a device by doing absolutely nothing. How is it even legal to call it that?
Well I've join the Jetstream family dispite all the bad press. I am a HTC fan, but sorry to hear the news. But glad to hear to good news of possibilities
Why doesn't HTC even give a new Sense update. I know they can't go to Sense 4.0, but what about 3.5 or 3.6 like they did with other Honeycomb HTC users?
They can't expect to leave us hanging and then make another HTC tablet, that would be insane on HTC to do that.
Can hardly wait to hear your plan. We are all ears my friend.
When will be get an update on the plan ?
Thanks in advance.
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Good Morning my fellow Jetstream owners.
I have some trusted contacts that have informed me that HTC is not likely to produce an ice cream sandwich ROM for jetstream.
It is a simple business decision, it costs a ton of money to develop, test and support a build. So I have to agree with the decision.
Having said that, I am working on a plan with HTC and a developer to partner up and develop a ROM for us. As far as a I know this will be the first time an XDA dev and HTC have partnered on a dev project.
I will keep this forum updated on progress.
Russ741
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Well I've join the Jetstream family dispite all the bad press. I am a HTC fan, but sorry to hear the news. But glad to hear to good news of possibilities
Why doesn't HTC even give a new Sense update. I know they can't go to Sense 4.0, but what about 3.5 or 3.6 like they did with other Honeycomb HTC users?
They can't expect to leave us hanging and then make another HTC tablet, that would be insane on HTC to do that.
Can hardly wait to hear your plan. We are all ears my friend.
When will be get an update on the plan ?
Thanks in advance.
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H, welcome to the forum and the family of Jetstream users. Russ741 will inform us when he gets some useful confirmed info. So just give him some time. Till then we all can hope for some responsibility shown where deserved from HTC.
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Hi guys, count me as another new Jetstream owner. I just picked mine up on Friday, May 25. I already knew that HTC had announced that there would be no ICS for this tablet but my desire to have a tablet with stylus coupled with the superiority of the Jetstream over the Lenovo tablet made the decision easy. I run ICS (turl's CM9) on my Atrix and would surely like to have it on the Jetstream, but won't go nuts for it.
My primary reason for desiring the stylus is to use this tablet connected to a large TV as a pseudo smart whiteboard for helping my kids with their homework. In that capacity, the fine writing capabilities of the Scribe stylus are fantastic and therefore I accepted the dead-end attitude of HTC and bought anyway.
While I've had smart phones for a long time (back to iPaq with GSM sleeve as my first integrated phone + PDA), this is my first tablet and I'm really enjoying it. I do despise the bloatware and will surely root to have Titanium freeze that junk, but otherwise having lots of fun.
If there is a bounty running to get ICS on the Jetstream then I will contribute. I probably won't run the ICS port unless it has all of the Scribe bolt-ons for the above-stated reason, but would still contribute to support the dev of the ICS port to what I think is a great tablet.
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Well I've join the Jetstream family dispite all the bad press. I am a HTC fan, but sorry to hear the news. But glad to hear to good news of possibilities
Why doesn't HTC even give a new Sense update. I know they can't go to Sense 4.0, but what about 3.5 or 3.6 like they did with other Honeycomb HTC users?
They can't expect to leave us hanging and then make another HTC tablet, that would be insane on HTC to do that.
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For the record, HTC has never said they wouldn't update the tablet. They just said we wouldn't be getting ICS. They did claim that it will still receive software updates. This might mean Android 3.2 and an updated Sense, or it might just mean security patches.
I would love to see even 3.2 on this. There was a noticeable increase in touchscreen/display performance when I upgraded my Transformer. (Which I kinda miss, but I got a sweet deal on an unlimited LTE data plan for the Jetstream, so it took over.)
I would definitely give up Sense for some CM9 though, if the stylus is fully supported. I think the big hurdle will be the RIL. Having taken a cursory look at some (but not all) of the hardware in the Jetstream, I'd think CM9 is pretty feasible on it, save for the LTE radio, which there's no way in hell I'm willing to sacrifice.
ICS for HTC Jetstream
I'm looking at picking one up today and can do some development however I'm wondering about the source release. From what I understand Android means that the sources have to be availed. Is something different with ICS? Do device makers now have the option?
Please let me know because though I can do whatever else I want with this thing I'm not keen on trying any ICS porting without the sources.
Thanks.
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Got the kernel source: http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads/P300
Hmmm.. do get or not to get an HTC Jetstream and ....
I bought it.
I still have some things to consider before taking the ICS port jump. Mainly, an X61T port for my current,
and possibly to be replaced by the Jetstream, Lenovo X61T work machine. To date ICS on the X61T runs real smooth.
Some tablet related issues to work out. .. Still deciding which to keep ...
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Hi guys, count me as another new Jetstream owner. I just picked mine up on Friday, May 25. I already knew that HTC had announced that there would be no ICS for this tablet but my desire to have a tablet with stylus coupled with the superiority of the Jetstream over the Lenovo tablet made the decision easy. I run ICS (turl's CM9) on my Atrix and would surely like to have it on the Jetstream, but won't go nuts for it.
My primary reason for desiring the stylus is to use this tablet connected to a large TV as a pseudo smart whiteboard for helping my kids with their homework. In that capacity, the fine writing capabilities of the Scribe stylus are fantastic and therefore I accepted the dead-end attitude of HTC and bought anyway.
While I've had smart phones for a long time (back to iPaq with GSM sleeve as my first integrated phone + PDA), this is my first tablet and I'm really enjoying it. I do despise the bloatware and will surely root to have Titanium freeze that junk, but otherwise having lots of fun.
If there is a bounty running to get ICS on the Jetstream then I will contribute. I probably won't run the ICS port unless it has all of the Scribe bolt-ons for the above-stated reason, but would still contribute to support the dev of the ICS port to what I think is a great tablet.
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I'm in.
I'll be setting up the environment, getting the sources etc..
It'll be my first shot and I anticipate issues. An experienced porter would be of some help here.
Hi all! Today I was thinking about ICS on Jetstream and here what I get in conclusion.
HTC devices are stick to sense, so mabe HTC stil does not have SENSE for ICS tablets!?
So mabe when HTC presents new tablet, they also will preset a new sense for 10" ICS tablets?
What u guys think about it? It make some "sense"
Sorry for bad grammar, I'm from Eastern Europe :angel:
Flame if you want. When I read today's article on Droid-Life.com I had to unload. I have absolutely no expectation of this update being released anytime soon or, frankly, ever.
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I don't really disagree with your assessment. Over the last year and a half vzw has turned into att lite, and HTC has just screwed its customers every chance it has gotten. It left the EVO view/flyer, jetstream on their current buggy ass builds of hc, they've might as well given up on updating their phones, as they wait so bloody long to do so, then they have bowed to vzws every demand. I will definitely be leaving both Verizon and HTC at the end of the year when the new nexus device hits. (assuming it does hit then) to me it seems like vzw got the iphone and immediately quit worrying about how to bring in new customers and keep their current ones happy. I'm probably going to go to tmo and stick with unlocked unbranded phones.
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Just because you put a custom rom on doesn't me it voided your warranty its a possibility but not a guarantee if you know what your doing. I agree with most your points, but I got the phone for $150 off CL (because he wanted an ics device instead, LOL) so not only did I get a great deal on a mint condition phone because it didn't have ics on it but then I went home and slapped it on myself from xda. So in a way I kinda like that Verizon/Htc hasn't released ics yet. Plus its cool knowing your one of only a few thousand people that have a rezound with ics. I just wished the would give up the source code for the kernel already.
At this point the only way I'm buying another HTC phone is if it is a Nexus device. After coming from the Motorola "OG" Droid, I can't stand the indifference these companies seem to have towards us. If HTC would've been more communicative with us, telling us what is going on instead of giving us some vague release date, I might've given them some credit.
Poop!
I consider that neither immature nor irrational.
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At this point the only way I'm buying another HTC phone is if it is a Nexus device. After coming from the Motorola "OG" Droid, I can't stand the indifference these companies seem to have towards us. If HTC would've been more communicative with us, telling us what is going on instead of giving us some vague release date, I might've given them some credit.
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Yeah that's the boat on in. I love my rezound but... I need a nexus in my life or something.
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It doesn't matter if this was a Samsung, Motorola, or LG, all companys treat their customers this way. Seems to be an industry standard. All big red does is interfere with this further with all the bloat they require. All I'm saying is HTC is not unique in how they handle themselves. I started with a Samsung Omnia (windows based), then got a Fascinate, Charge, and now Rezound. The Rezound is hands down the best phone I've had. Both the Fascinate and Charge suffered radio problems and if you read the Nexus forums they complain about the same thing. This also steered me away from the SGIII. Still a Samsung product.
Just my 2 cents......
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It doesn't matter if this was a Samsung, Motorola, or LG, all companys treat their customers this way. Seems to be an industry standard. All big red does is interfere with this further with all the bloat they require. All I'm saying is HTC is not unique in how they handle themselves. I started with a Samsung Omnia (windows based), then got a Fascinate, Charge, and now Rezound. The Rezound is hands down the best phone I've had. Both the Fascinate and Charge suffered radio problems and if you read the Nexus forums they complain about the same thing. This also steered me away from the SGIII. Still a Samsung product.
Just my 2 cents......
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While I agree that the rezzy is by far the best, I still wish I hadn't further supported HTC due to the way they are handling the tablet issue, and now the updates on the Rezound. And honestly I don't hold my breath for us getting jb. Honestly I think it will be like the tbolt is right now with Ics. Just a functional rom without a cellular modem. Which is sad given how incredibly much I like the phone itself. But the only way to get (insert mobile headset maker here) attention is to stop buying their products they won't support once they leave the shelf. And Verizon lost me when they axed unlimited data grandfathering. But then won't give me a discount for not buying a subsidized device. (ala tmo) so, I just can't continue to support companies that continually screw us the customer over.
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Why do people get so "angry" or "furious" because there's no software update and says the manufacturer is horrible? Last time I checked the rezound cane out of the box with everything working. It's funny how people want everything....patience is key.
The update is a luxury not a necessity. Should I get mad at Microsoft because Windows 8 isn't out officially. The product they already released does everything I need for the time being.
Also, why would you want a company to rush a product? Try rushing your barber to finish your haircut quickly and see what happens. It seems very childish to get mad at a manufacturer for a SIMPLE update that is coming SOON.
The people of today...always wanting everything NOW.
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I think some of it is symptomatic of the market. Handset makers are pushing out new devices every 4 to 6 months, and it stops being cost effective to update them all. Which sucks for us, but it makes good business sense.
If they would only push out source, RIL included, it just wouldn't matter.
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Why do people get so "angry" or "furious" because there's no software update and says the manufacturer is horrible? Last time I checked the rezound cane out of the box with everything working. It's funny how people want everything....patience is key.
The update is a luxury not a necessity. Should I get mad at Microsoft because Windows 8 isn't out officially. The product they already released does everything I need for the time being.
Also, why would you want a company to rush a product? Try rushing your barber to finish your haircut quickly and see what happens. It seems very childish to get mad at a manufacturer for a SIMPLE update that is coming SOON.
The people of today...always wanting everything NOW.
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All that you're saying sounds good and all but that argument is tired. If htc says we're giving ics, we expect it. And with barbers you see progress and know it's happening. You don't see him pausing your haircut after telling you 2pm to go work on someone elses and then coming back to your at damn near 1:58. Or him giving you a fresh haircut then ignoring you after you ask him to touch up your hairline after you paid him.
*kicks soapbox from under feet*
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Flame if you want. When I read today's article on Droid-Life.com I had to unload. I have absolutely no expectation of this update being released anytime soon or, frankly, ever.
Feel free to submit your thoughtful replies. Immature, irrational comments will be ignored.
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I was one of the ones that up-voted it yesterday!
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Why do people get so "angry" or "furious" because there's no software update and says the manufacturer is horrible? ... Should I get mad at Microsoft because Windows 8 isn't out officially.
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It's the whole thing of lying to the consumers that pisses people off, not necessarily the lack of updates IMO. If HTC had never mentioned that we were getting ICS there wouldn't be so much *****ing and moaning because people wouldn't expect it. When I got the Rezound back in November, I was told that it would have it by January. Here we are almost 8 months later with still no update. HTC has had it ready for months but Verizon refuses to push it out until they're ready. It's not the same thing as your Windows 8 analogy because the transition from Windows 7 to Windows 8 is paid for. It'd be more like you buy a computer with Windows 7 and a few months down the road your PC manufacturer says "We're not going to release any new drivers for your hardware, sorry." then MS says "We're not going to release any updates to Windows 7 for you anymore, sorry. Please buy Windows 8 to get the latest bug fixes."
I gotta say HTC and Verizon really ****ed this up. I've had good experiences with HTC before, but they are just so Hit-or-miss that it isnt even funny. Verizon... POS. Come november when my contract is over, I'm going to get whatever is the next nexus device (if its HTC then awesome) on AT&T
I don't really care for the official ICS because I am already enjoying ICS with sense 4 with Newts One XxX. However, it pisses me off to see that the rezound is still without official ICS. I don't think anything can justify this, other than than Verizon trying to promote other phones and not caring about a phone because it was not branded "Droid". The Droid razor already has ICS and I dont see why the Rezound still waiting. And what's more frustrating is the silence of the two companies... They simply don't care about what the customers think...
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I would have to say the rezound has been the worst experience I have ever had with a HTC phone. It seems that since the HTC One series drop nothing else matters to HTC. I hate to say it but this may very well be my last HTC handset. I need a phone that I can compile the source on my own I guess.
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I see a lot of blame on Verizon but I don't believe (and I maybe wrong) any other HTC handsets have ICS either like the EVO3D (were I came from).
Why even push an update now that isn't even an update? It needs to have sense 4, IMO that would make it worth the wait, and get customers more excited and loyal towards HTC products. But nope. Gonna be sense 3.6 lol. Meh w/e they have been shooting themselves in the foot lately. All of them have in a way. Samsung used to be terrible with updates but not so much anymore... Their phones are just iffy, radios and such...
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Revolutions started on twitters, yet we cant for some reason beyond me, get together and mass tweet @htc and @htc usa , come one people instead of having discussions here lets tweet left and right about it.
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Revolutions started on twitters, yet we cant for some reason beyond me, get together and mass tweet @htc and @htc usa , come one people instead of having discussions here lets tweet left and right about it.
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Seriously? Wow...let them keep working on it, I would rather have it bugless. Now I can see why people are strict about not asking for ETAs for their roms.
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Seriously? Wow...let them keep working on it, I would rather have it bugless. Now I can see why people are strict about not asking for ETAs for their roms.
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I don't think they are working on anything. Con247 believes that the last leak was the final version. If he is correct then they (probably Verizon) have been just sitting on it. That to me would be total BS.
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I don't think they are working on anything. Con247 believes that the last leak was the final version. If he is correct then they (probably Verizon) have been just sitting on it. That to me would be total BS.
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Oh I'm almost 100% sure Verizon is the MAIN problem. HTC has probably had it done for quite some time now but I'm sure Verizon keeps rejecting and making them lock stuff down more, while promoting other phones in the meantime. This last leak is almost perfect, and how long have we had it now?
See, this is what I'm talking about here, HTC and their lies and bull****. The EVO LTE is the One X, yet, we have no ****ing 4.0.4 while EVERY OTHER US variant does. Well, that's the last damn straw with me... Proceeding to harass GPL off this bull****.
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It's definitely a bummer.
I'm happy w my EVO LTE. Not happy with HTCs way of handling things as a business. They fail to support their customers lol.
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typhoonikan said:
It's definitely a bummer.
I'm happy w my EVO LTE. Not happy with HTCs way of handling things as a business. They fail to support their customers lol.
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Some guy had the nerve to try and say I'm out of control. HTC is scrambling and losing because of bull**** post purchase service. If htc suddenly said "**** it, w need money so we are providing a universal s-off tool, BUT IT WILL VOID WARRANTY" people would buy the phones so damn fast it'll be like the itc hold up again. Samsung doesn't care about root and thats why they sale. Not to mention bull**** advertising by HTC. Yea, advertise beats audio with a guy running to bull**** music, let's forget slcd2 screen, beast specs & huge screen. Man, ass backwards, I won't be surprised if **** phone 5 doesn't smoke whatever bull crap phone htc is releasing next.
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Welcome back
Looks like I need to create a fake FB to troll HTC harder.
I hate having this techy stuff pop up on my friends feed
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Dude I'm so pissed with HTC and noobs are defending them like The LTEVO isn't riddled with bugs and the One X wasn't rushed and basically a "test" model.
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Who wants 4.0.4? I am getting ready for my favorite dessert, Jelly Bean.
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You guys get pissed about the dumbest things.... Just because its a higher version, doesn't mean its better. Chill out, sprint has something to do about it as well
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You guys get pissed about the dumbest things.... Just because its a higher version, doesn't mean its better. Chill out, sprint has something to do about it as well
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Dude, don't come in here trying to flame bait up the thread. Your probably non confrontational anyways, that seems to be the norm around here
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Dude, don't come in here trying to flame bait up the thread. Your probably non confrontational anyways, that seems to be the norm around here
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Hey man. Keep fighting the good fight. We are behind you. I have been writing emails and posting on facebook walls. Doing what I can.
Eh, I don't know why you guys expect us to get everything the One X gets. Yes, the two phones are similar, but they have different development paths and different carriers.
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Eh, I don't know why you guys expect us to get everything the One X gets. Yes, the two phones are similar, but they have different development paths and different carriers.
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the one x has been out just a couple of months before
you must be real daft to not expect support for such a new phone
this phone just came out a couple months ago, wouldnt you expect a frikking update just like the one x too?
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Some guy had the nerve to try and say I'm out of control. HTC is scrambling and losing because of bull**** post purchase service. If htc suddenly said "**** it, w need money so we are providing a universal s-off tool, BUT IT WILL VOID WARRANTY" people would buy the phones so damn fast it'll be like the itc hold up again. Samsung doesn't care about root and thats why they sale. Not to mention bull**** advertising by HTC. Yea, advertise beats audio with a guy running to bull**** music, let's forget slcd2 screen, beast specs & huge screen. Man, ass backwards, I won't be surprised if **** phone 5 doesn't smoke whatever bull crap phone htc is releasing next.
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HTC isn't losing much at all from not upgrading their phones. The majority of Android users will not understand or care about version numbers. Android is no longer something for just "nerds" like us. It has the largest market share of any mobile OS. HTC is losing money because they don't have lower end phones, and also because the name isn't as well known as Samsung or Apple in the US.
1) HTC cannot guarantee an update window without being sure of it. With this update being new, they will still have to go through Sprint and all of that before it gets to us. HTC probably has no way of knowing how long it will take, so they aren't giving us any sort of ETA.
2) This phone will obviously receive the update. That shouldn't even be questioned. It is essentially the same phone as the One X, but locked down to a single carrier. This most likely makes us the last priority because we are the smallest group. The One X is available in many more areas than the Evo is. HTC probably wants to get through the biggest group first and then focus on us.
3) You're being unnecessarily angry. The update was just released TODAY, meaning that it probably won't even be on every One X for a few days at least. Just because some HTC drone paid to avoid giving you answers told you on Facebook that they don't have any information to share with you doesn't mean we will be waiting a month for this update to come. Could we have to wait that long? Yes. But there is no proof that we will.
4) The current update we are on with this phone is good. The phone itself works fine. Why do we need this update instantly? Would you prefer HTC rush it out and have to deal with bugs? Why would you want to do that? If it isn't ready for release yet, then you just have to deal with that. Pestering them on Facebook isn't going to get them to go any faster. Spamming them with e-mails probably isn't going to either. There is no legally binding document that says they have to release this update. They will though.
Honestly, it is common sense that we will see this update in the future. When will we see it? We don't know. But to go on an expletive filled tirade just because HTC doesn't have a bone to throw at you on the first day that the update is available on carriers that are much less restrictive than Sprint is just immature and unnecessary.
Newsflash: it's easier to update a phone when you don't have to go through carriers. Also, upgrading phones outside of the US is much easier because a lot of less restrictive carriers. It'll happen, but HTC had to focus on one or the other first, and common sense says we weren't chosen because we're the smaller group.
Exactly..and they have pretty much the same software besides the bloat apps..but believe me they are not very happy either..devs are leaving and the bootloaders are locked up tighter than a nuns ass...I don't understand HTCs intentions but it could all be fixed with one simple upload of source
flex360 said:
the one x has been out just a couple of months before
you must be real daft to not expect support for such a new phone
this phone just came out a couple months ago, wouldnt you expect a frikking update just like the one x too?
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Who said we aren't going to get the update? Oh wait, that's right, nobody did.
flex360 said:
the one x has been out just a couple of months before
you must be real daft to not expect support for such a new phone
this phone just came out a couple months ago, wouldnt you expect a frikking update just like the one x too?
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Think about what I said and your response to it for just a second. Is that second over? Ok, let's try that again.
1) Did I state there is not support or that we will not get support?
If your answer is no, you have survived round one and are allowed to continue!
2) Think about 4.1. What if HTC and/or Sprint thinks 4.0.4 is a waste of time and decides, hey, why don't we just develop 4.1 for the LTEvo instead? I mean, that could be money better spent, right? So, are we with AT&T and have the One X, or are we Sprint and have the LTEvo?
If your answer is Sprint and the LTEvo, you have survived round two and allowed to continue!
3) So where does it state that we will absolutely get everything that the One X gets? Is there anything concrete that links our LTEvo development to the One X?
If your answer is nowhere and nothing, you have won the game!!! WOOOHOOO!!!
neoshi said:
Think about what I said and your response to it for just a second. Is that second over? Ok, let's try that again.
1) Did I state there is not support or that we will not get support?
If your answer is no, you have survived round one and are allowed to continue!
2) Think about 4.1. What if HTC and/or Sprint thinks 4.0.4 is a waste of time and decides, hey, why don't we just develop 4.1 for the LTEvo instead? I mean, that could be money better spent, right? So, are we with AT&T and have the One X, or are we Sprint and have the LTEvo?
If your answer is Sprint and the LTEvo, you have survived round two and allowed to continue!
3) So where does it state that we will absolutely get everything that the One X gets? Is there anything concrete that links our LTEvo development to the One X?
If your answer is nowhere and nothing, you have won the game!!! WOOOHOOO!!!
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I like you.
Pro HTC? Can't you see, post purchase service is **** all across the board. The desire HD excuse is a perfect example. Your idea of carrier lock down is somewhat true BUT can be solved. I don't know why they let carriers muscle them. Apple says **** you, sale our **** or GTFO & they bend. HTC needs to do the same & Sammy does too. These cellular politics piss me off. I wonder what EXCUSE we'll get for not having android 5. I would much rather them come out & say "yo, we not upgrading your old ass phone. Buy a new one or GTFO"
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Nice to see you back man. Generally like your posts and threads.
It does seem like the LTE is getting left out right now but I'm not gonna freak unless a pattern develops
Sent using my LTEVO
SoraX64 said:
I like you.
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I don't..sarcasm and being a d/ck isn't any better than the ppl u are *****ing about..personally I don't care about 4.04..the source is a whole other ordeal..