.215- Is everyone getting better 4G except me? - Motorola Droid RAZR

I've been running the .215 update now for about a week and a half, but it seems i'm either on 3G where I used to get 4G, or no data at all. For example, shopping with the wife at a mall where I usually sit and wait for her, I always got a good 4G signal. Yesterday I barely got a 3G connection for about 2 minutes then all my data connections went white. Just out of curiosity I put it in airplane mode then turned it back on and a strong 4G connection came on.
BTW, she has an iphone 4s using Kik for messaging which requires a data connection. Hers worked. Mine didn't. I felt pretty foolish as I'm always telling her my phone can do everything her phone can, only better.

baune7 said:
I've been running the .215 update now for about a week and a half, but it seems i'm either on 3G where I used to get 4G, or no data at all. For example, shopping with the wife at a mall where I usually sit and wait for her, I always got a good 4G signal. Yesterday I barely got a 3G connection for about 2 minutes then all my data connections went white. Just out of curiosity I put it in airplane mode then turned it back on and a strong 4G connection came on.
BTW, she has an iphone 4s using Kik for messaging which requires a data connection. Hers worked. Mine didn't. I felt pretty foolish as I'm always telling her my phone can do everything her phone can, only better.
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First, iphone 4s doesnt have 4g, it has the icon but its not 4g. Are you on stock or running a ROM?

I know it's not 4G. That's why it makes me mad when I used to have full 4G on my RAZR.. in the same spot. now I can barely cling on to a 3g with data drops all the time. Meanwhile she's on hers all the time with a good connection.
I flashed the official .211 update. Rooted with Matt's utility. Used voodoo OTA rootkeeper. Updated to. 215. Other than that haven't changed anything. Still stock recovery.
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baune7 said:
I know it's not 4G. That's why it makes me mad when I used to have full 4G on my RAZR.. in the same spot. now I can barely cling on to a 3g with data drops all the time. Meanwhile she's on hers all the time with a good connection.
I flashed the official .211 update. Rooted with Matt's utility. Used voodoo OTA rootkeeper. Updated to. 215. Other than that haven't changed anything. Still stock recovery.
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I am stock rooted on .215 and I couldn't be happier. My battery has lasted an average of 1 day 20 hours and my 4G is stronger than ever. The 3G/4G/WiFi handoff is seamless and the phone is much snappier overall. Try going back to stock .211 and reloading .215.....Use Matt's Utility 1.81 to roll back to .211

I have been running the .215, my wife same phone, no hacks and she never drops 4 g. I am always either 1 bar 4g or 3 bars 3g. frustrating. I use to have really good 4 g till i started to mess with roms and rooting, now i cant seem to get it back good. I have switched out my 4g sim card, no change though. 4g sucks for me now as well. my battery life rocks though.

Think I might try fast booting back to .211 stock then re rooting. How do I fastboot? Never done this with this phone. Used RSD with the OG DROID. Or is matts utility the only way?
Any suggestions would be great. Thanks in advance.
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baune7 said:
Think I might try fast booting back to .211 stock then re rooting. How do I fastboot? Never done this with this phone. Used RSD with the OG DROID. Or is matts utility the only way?
Any suggestions would be great. Thanks in advance.
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Matts utility 1.81 would be the way to do it.
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I'm running stock rooted .215 as well. For me signal strength is about the same as .211. I live in the greater Philadelphia area which is a strong 4G area but I've always had weak signal strength in my office and my TV room. I was hoping to see some benefit in those areas after going to .215 but it's about the same. Not complaining - just didn't see any notable change for me between the two radios.
Battery life is really good - I have a Maxx and I'm running a bunch of Smart Actions that control my data and sync in different situations that's resulting in what feels like extended battery life. Only caveat to that is it was after going to .215 that I started fooling with Smart Actions so it's hard to say where the extended life is coming from: the kernel or S/A helping manage things.

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3G speed is all over the place

I live in a very good area and always have great signal. Never had speed issues with my Fascinate but now with the X2 lately the last couple weeks my 3G signal is all over the place. I'm on my 2nd X2 because the first one felt like it was on fire when using data. Well this one did it too. The 3G radio gets really hot when using data. Except for the last few days it doesn't do it anymore, doesn't get hot at all which is good except my data speeds are terrible the majority of the time. Now its not always bad, but 90% of the time or better its less than 0.5 mbps with 3-4 bars. When its working correctly I get 1.2-1.8 mbps in the same places like at home where I'm getting 0.5 mbps or less most of the time. Wondering if the 3G radio could have burnt itself out or is it a software issue?
It may be a VERIZON issue. Can you compare it to someone else's in the same areas?
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garywojdan81 said:
It may be a VERIZON issue. Can you compare it to someone else's in the same areas?
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Yeah, my wife's fascinate is fine.
Mine seems like it could cook an egg with w/ how hot it gets with heavy radio use. I had spotty speeds at one time for about 2 wks and upon calling VZW they told me it could be the 4g updates rolling out of my nearest city. They were dropping local towers to upgrade them causing my radio to lock on a tower further away. Things have been normal as of late with my speeds so maybe they were correct, for once.
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Mine was just the opposite. Spotty 3g speeds with my fascinate + the missed call thing=a move to the x2 where my data has been rock solid for the most part, especially with naven's tweaks. Do you have any apps that hijack the radio? I had root call blocker installed & its a great app for blocking unwanted calls but it has to hijack the radio at boot up to insert its script and sometimes it would take 5+ min for 3g to come on. I ultimately lost all data one day only to find that somehow my radio had been set to 1xrtt instead of 3g evdo. The only thing to fix it was a factory data reset. I've never put that app back on my phone & have never had that issue again.
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Mine was just the opposite. Spotty 3g speeds with my fascinate + the missed call thing=a move to the x2 where my data has been rock solid for the most part, especially with naven's tweaks. Do you have any apps that hijack the radio? I had root call blocker installed & its a great app for blocking unwanted calls but it has to hijack the radio at boot up to insert its script and sometimes it would take 5+ min for 3g to come on. I ultimately lost all data one day only to find that somehow my radio had been set to 1xrtt instead of 3g evdo. The only thing to fix it was a factory data reset. I've never put that app back on my phone & have never had that issue again.
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I never had a speed issue with the fascinate, my issues were missed calls and battery life. I don't believe I have anything hijacking the radio.
Well it appears to be a verizon issue as I was in a different part of town this afternoon and was consistently getting 1.3 mbps+ as I ran a speedtest several times to make sure.
Soooo that means that the tower near my house is crap for some reason right now, which is also the one I am on at work apparently because its only a couple miles from home.
Thanks for the help guys.
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Data drops after updates

anyone noticed or had trouble
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Not a data loss issue but:
I haven't had a problem with my razr since the update, but after my wifes update, her razr will turn off wifi now and then if the phone sleeps too long. Sometimes within 10 minutes. It happens more times than not.
On .748 my Razr was always locked on strong with 4G on.
W/ .173 I've been having nothing but complete data drops even though it still shows 4G and I'm in 3G in places where I had a strong 4G on 748
Does data drop mean losing 4G and then wait for a minute and then comes back. That's what I've been getting lately. It doesn't even switch to 3G. I never had that problem with my TB sigh
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Yeah I too experienced data drops. But once I switch between 2g and 3g networks there are no drops for sometime.
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I've started having several after update. Hopefully Verizon will drop an update soon. Surely with this many of us having this issue, has to be a known issue.
While I haven't had any data drops since the update, I have noticed I have a much weaker signal. I was under the impression this update was supposed to reverse that.
For me it fixed the day by day data droping. You may need to reset the phone.
P.S I hope it gets fixed soon and I know all to well how much of a pain it is.

4G/3G/1x

I have an unrooted Droid Razr and anytime I am in Verizon's Extended network I drop all data. The signal strength fluctuates from -67 to -99. Most of the time while I travel it is between -75 and -90. I have enabled the global roaming and I changed the voice privacy settings after I looked on the forums. Any ideas of things to try? When I contacted Verizon they suggested they could have lost their "agreements" with the other carriers to cover 3g. Two weeks ago I was using a Droid Charge and it worked fine.
Same here. When I first got this phone about 2 weeks ago I had a strong 4g connection which would rarely drop to 3g, but for some reason now I'm constantly dropping all data connection and its draining the hell out of my battery since the phone is constantly searching for a connection. I'm on a stock razr running. 2.3.6. Anyone have any ideas?
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Exactly what i'm going through I've gotten a replacement razr Maxx from Verizon thinking it might be a bad phone but the replacement is loosing signal just the same way.someone please help!
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Had this problem a few days ago, but haven't had a problem in 3-4 days. Been getting great signal and data speeds lately.
I rebooted my phone this morning and so far so good. I haven't dropped my 4g connection yet. Battery life is still at 91% coming off the charger at 7:30 CST this morning.
Edit : this is a maxx
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How do you reboot the Razr Maxx on stock (not rooted)?
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Thank Me Later said:
How do you reboot the Razr Maxx on stock (not rooted)?
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Soft reset. Power + vol -
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Update, started dropping data connection again. I guess I'm going to have to call Verizon.
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My wifes phone is complete stock and has been having data drops and restarts. Never dropped or anything done to it. Gonna have to call Verizon.
I have dealing with the same crap, look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1549021
Most of the time, it happens at 24h-36h up time, but can happen at 10min or wait 50hours. I have not droped data for a few days, but have not used the phone much at all.
P.S I am NOT in a Verizon's Extended network area. I am in a 3-4 bar place or even right next to a cell tower with 5bars.( That is BS)
I was tolled that I use the phone too MUCH and I need to turn it off EVERY night. Now I am thinking AT&T with galaxy s3 is the "fix" I need to get a LTE phone that works right.

Significant Radio Issue after upgrade to 181 - US Razr Maxx

Please post if you have the same issue.
Or please help me to resolve this issue.
Model: Completely stock non-rooted Razr Maxx from Verizon.
Upgrade was from 173 to 181. Happened today. Entire process was fine.
After the upgrade:
The 4G sign appeared very briefly and then disappear, and then it stuck at 3G.
My guess: so-called 4G authentication failed. So it switched to 3G by default.
Then as a result, now the phone spend all time in 3G. everything is slow.
note: I am sitting at the exact place (my office desk). same time frame.
I don't believe there is a structural change in my building or desk happened coincident with my 181 upgrade.
Thanks for any insights.
I have performed. "pull sim-card" but it did not work.
Try factory reset?
Try Motorola's 4g connectivity app.
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I got the RAZR and the radios seem like they connect worse. If these are the supposedly great radios from Motorola then I'm not impressed.
Edit: and I have Motorola's restore connectivity app.
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I have absolutely terrible signal strength and numerous data drops, especially when tethering from the stock vzw hotspot app. Flashing back to 173 as I type this. And I've been running 181 since the soak started.
Not happy at all.
I downloaded the 181 update last night and have also had a bunch of data drops today. I thought it was Juice Defender so I uninstalled it but Ive still been getting them. Ill stick it out a few more days and see how it goes
Odd, maybe it's just my area but I was pulling down 30+mbs down earlier today. No data drops either.
Been about 24 hours since I installed the update.
No problems here, i've been getting better dBm readings since the update. I'm wondering if maybe it was just one of those days for the 4G network...
As a side note, not only have my dBm readings been better, my ping/download/upload speeds are faster.
I think it happens to the areas that are "on the edge". Previously it was still tried to hanging on 4G, but now it just directly went to 3G or ... worse .. dropped and they called it "accurately reflect the signal strength" as a feature.
TO ADD ONE MORE:
This morning my Razr Maxx rebooted for no reason.
Good job Moto/Verizon. I don't know which one to thank to.
This is the first time since I bought it a few month ago.
Never rooted. Only be a normal user without any tweak.
Things I've noticed:
Positive:
1 - Fewer reboots/"sleeps of death" after the update, though they were infrequent on the previous update. (took me a minute the first time to figure out how to perform a hard reset on a phone with no removable battery)
2 - Screen doesn't seem to stay ON on its own anymore, I don't run into cycles where I have to fight it to get the screen to stay off.
Negative:
3 - Data Link does drop more frequently in "fringe" areas (I was traveling with the update and dropped data link numerous times despite it saying 3G/4G, dropped to 1x a few times but on the interstate this is expected), but it appears to be faster when it's locked on.
Neutral:
3 - Slow down / catch up when typing on keyboard in stock browser. Same as before for me.
I upgraded via OTA from the stock, rooted. Just rooted this version today.
Seihaku said:
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I upgraded via OTA from the stock, rooted. Just rooted this version today.
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What did you use? Will the Motofail utility root .181.
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Yes, motofail works great
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Yes, motofail works great
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Thanks.

Stop me from jumping....

I just sold my HTC Rezound and got my Razr Maxx from someone locally only about 5 days ago. In short, I miss my Rezound.
Before anyone jumps down my throat, let me explain. I am basing this solely off my experience at work where I spend 40+ hours of my week. Other than that, I really like this phone and want it to work out for me.
In my office here at work, I have always had bad reception with Verizon, regardless of the phone. It's just the way that this building is and the fact that there isn't a Verizon tower close enough to get good reception. Supposedly they are going to install a Verizon tower in our parking lot, but who knows when or if that will really happen.
With that being said, my Rezound held 4G for most of the day, albeit barely. But it did for most of my day and when it dropped 4G, the transition to 3G was pretty seamless.
With my Maxx, I am having major problems holding 4G or connectivity at all several times throughout my work day. If I open the Play Store or apps like Facebook, it will say no connection even when the 4G icon is visible. Then it will turn white at times too.
To its credit, I get good reception outside of work and at home which is true for every Verizon phone that I have owned (Incredible, Thunderbolt, Charge, Rezound).
So what gives? Without going back to a Rezound, what are my other options? The Nexus is much worse in this department correct?
Any advice would help, thanks!
Nexus is horrible in reception department. I know exactly what you mean with the white 4G no connection issue. I get it all the time too...even with 4G showing full bars. Also when I open the browser its just white and froze.
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mkarps said:
Nexus is horrible in reception department. I know exactly what you mean with the white 4G no connection issue. I get it all the time too...even with 4G showing full bars. Also when I open the browser its just white and froze.
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So, it's not just me? LOL
It's getting pretty ridiculous. Today I can barely do anything with it at work, it's not holding much of anything.
Is this a known network issue? Because if not, I will have to dump this phone unfortunately.
Yeah I don't know if it's the battery or what but 4G reception seems hit or miss on my Razr Maxx, it usually works great but in fringe areas it's shakier than I'd like.
That said, I use my office's wifi (where 4G reception sucks) and keep my phone on 3G unless I need to download things. So it isn't a huge issue.
I can't go back to a smaller battery, though.
Just as an update, the reception is embarrassingly bad today. I can't connect to anything data related. Connection keeps going in and out.
My Rezound would connect to everything daily. Only problem is that I don't want another Rezound lol.
Decisions, decisions....
the nexus has horrible signal issues, don't get one. as far as the maxx and signal/4g i get 10x better signal strength than i had with my rezound or nexus. if you want, install the .209 ics leak. it gave me much better 4g reception and speeds.
could also be you just do not have good verizon service where you are and no phone will fix that.
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the nexus has horrible signal issues, don't get one. as far as the maxx and signal/4g i get 10x better signal strength than i had with my rezound or nexus. if you want, install the .209 ics leak. it gave me much better 4g reception and speeds.
could also be you just do not have good verizon service where you are and no phone will fix that.
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I definitely don't have good Verizon service where my office is located as I said in the OP. But, even with that said, my Rezound always held a data connection, and mostly 4G at that.
I have no idea why this phone with supposed better radios can't match that. It's very, very disheartening.
I will try the ICS leak. Is the .209 one the one where you can't go back to stock if you wanted to? That might be an issue for me.
Thanks!
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I definitely don't have good Verizon service where my office is located as I said in the OP. But, even with that said, my Rezound always held a data connection, and mostly 4G at that.
I have no idea why this phone with supposed better radios can't match that. It's very, very disheartening.
I will try the ICS leak. Is the .209 one the one where you can't go back to stock if you wanted to? That might be an issue for me.
Thanks!
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no going back to gingerbread once you install. i dunno maybe your phone is defective? i have no data issues and hand off's are great.
Possible that Verizon is having an outage around you?
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My razr on rogers does the no connection thing in the play store at times also. That is running ics on 3g
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Possible that Verizon is having an outage around you?
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There is none that they know of. I went into a Verizon store tonight and they installed a new sim for me.
I have had strong signal since then, but I'm not at work and I usually get good signal at home.
If I don't have good signal tomorrow at work I will just have to face the sad reality that this phone won't play nice at work. Then I will have to make a decision from there.
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Have you tried simply turning 4G off? Basically, go to the network settings and turn it to CDMA only, instead of CDMA+LTE. 2-3 bars of 3G is better than 0-1 bars of 4G. At least while you're at work.
Are you sure it's not a defective unit?
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It happen on my atrix 2 too.
Before i was using htc hero and it held 3g in my office even it only 1 or 2 bar,but with my atrix 2 it stay on edge and sometimes no connectivity. I guess motorola has bad antenna and i'm planning to get htc rezound.
Sorry for my bad english.
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It happen on my atrix 2 too.
Before i was using htc hero and it held 3g in my office even it only 1 or 2 bar,but with my atrix 2 it stay on edge and sometimes no connectivity. I guess motorola has bad antenna and i'm planning to get htc rezound.
Sorry for my bad english.
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That's the thing, Motorola is top notch with antennas, HTC is next best, as I have the Rezound, signal is great but I'm still leading towards defective unit.
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Have you tried this? Should do the trick.
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Have you tried this? Should do the trick.
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I put 3 on my back cover,but no luck.
I keep awaiting for bootloader unlock for razr and atrix 2,maybe custom kernel will do some trick on signal to keep hold on 3g although it's only 1 or 2 bar. Because from my experience,motorola will get no connectivity when it drop to 2 or 1 bar of 3g.
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I put 3 on my back cover,but no luck.
I keep awaiting for bootloader unlock for razr and atrix 2,maybe custom kernel will do some trick on signal to keep hold on 3g although it's only 1 or 2 bar. Because from my experience,motorola will get no connectivity when it drop to 2 or 1 bar of 3g.
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LoL. I was joking. Tell me you really didn't try that.
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LoL. I was joking. Tell me you really didn't try that.
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Do what? Put that sticker on my back cover? Actually i really did it,i even add a piece of aluminium foil to get more signal. LOL
Let's laugh together
That's is the stupid idea that i did to get the phone hold on 3g,and if you read our atrix2 forum,most of us got a bad data connectivity.
I'll wait until ics comes out,if it still have a lock bootloader or connection issue,then maybe i'll jump to another boat (no more moto,this is the last)
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Are you sure it's not a defective unit?
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It might possibly be, but I'm not leaning towards that as I'm getting good reception and connection at home.
It's only happening at work where nobody gets good Verizon signal to begin with. Only problem is my rezound was holding enough signal and not dropping but this phone is dropping.
My conclusion so far is that the rezound holds weak signals better and the MAXX just drops them.
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