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I'm bone stock with just a handful of apps installed and nothing that should be killing my battery. I've got lots of screen shots here in hopes that someone will be able to tell me what's going on. At noon Eastern, I took the phone off the charger at 100%. Wifi was left on and I sat the phone down on my desk for about 2 hours. I then captured these screen shots.
BetterBatteryStats shows a pretty serious (I think) kernel wakelock.
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After tapping on "suspend_backoff", this was displayed. What the hell is "suspend_backoff"?
Under Partial Wakelocks, this was displayed.
The built in power monitoring shows this.
And tapping on Android OS yields this screen. Clearly, something is keeping the thing from going to sleep.
Finally, this is from SystemPanel and it shows that during the 2-hour period, the CPU was consistently doing SOMETHING. Curiously, however, during the overnight there was virtually no drop in voltage while I slept. I turn off wifi and 3G when I go to sleep so I'm thinking there is something related to wifi that is keeping the cpu cranking.
Sorry for all the captures, but if anyone has any thoughts, I'd love to hear them.
Thanks!
What widgets do you have on your homescreens? Pretty sure "suspend backoff" is time the phone is not able to deep sleep so you definitely have something going on.
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What widgets do you have on your homescreens? Pretty sure "suspend backoff" is time the phone is not able to deep sleep so you definitely have something going on.
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The only "active" ones I have are BatteryLife, BetterBatteryStats and Palmary Weather. I'll delete them one at a time and see if that allows it to sleep. Seeing as the inability to sleep appears to be tied to wifi, it could be Palmary Weather causing the problem, so I'll remove it first.
Thanks for the help!
erikivy said:
The only "active" ones I have are BatteryLife, BetterBatteryStats and Palmary Weather. I'll delete them one at a time and see if that allows it to sleep. Seeing as the inability to sleep appears to be tied to wifi, it could be Palmary Weather causing the problem, so I'll remove it first.
Thanks for the help!
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I would try removing the batterylife widget first. Many battery widgets are known to cause sleep issues. But either way you can start narrowing down the culprit.
I was having that issue with the suspend backoff as well. What sort of widgets are you using, do you have any other battery monitoring apps? (EDIT: I see your newer posts above). I was wondering if the Bettery battery stats was keeping the phone awake. Because after I turned off all the battery monitoring apps/widgets I got better unplugged/screen time.
If it is a wifi issue, try turning the options of Wifi always on to allow wifi to sleep. (In wifi advance options).
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I would try removing the batterylife widget first. Many battery widgets are known to cause sleep issues. But either way you can start narrowing down the culprit.
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I can attest to this. That battery widget keeps the phone awake because it takes 'mah' readings every ten minutes.
Using battery monitoring I went from a 67 to 41 battery life overnight. Last night I froze all the battery monitoring things and I went from a 67 to 64. (But I had some other tweaks as well).
I could be wrong, but I don't think it is either of the battery widgets, unless of course they use wifi for something. At night, with wifi off, the battery voltage stays virtually flat. If it were the batt widgets, wouldn't they continue to cause the voltage to drop?
I removed the weather widget and am letting it sit for an hour or so. I'll report back with the results.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think it is either of the battery widgets, unless of course they use wifi for something. At night, with wifi off, the battery voltage stays virtually flat. If it were the batt widgets, wouldn't they continue to cause the voltage to drop?
I removed the weather widget and am letting it sit for an hour or so. I'll report back with the results.
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I wish I had a screen shot to show you. But one of my battery widgets kept reported every ten minutes with the same voltage (flat) but the phone wasn't being allowed to go into deep sleep. Around -130mah. My deep sleep time overnight was like 8 minutes.
The widget/app I was using was "Battery Monitor Widget". It was definitely keeping my phone from going into a deep sleep. I froze it last night and my battery life stayed constant throughout the night.
You have to figure out why your phone isn't being allowed to go into deep sleep when the screen is off.
Are you using "SmartSync" on any e-mail accounts? I've read that it causes WakeLock in some cases (I think related to how it manages data connections in conjunction with sync frequency).
It has to be something causing the phone from going into a deep sleep. Do you have any eye-popping items from the 'alarms' and 'process' sections of better battery stats? I would check for wake counts more than actual time.
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If you go into 'other' in better battery stats what is your time for deep sleep?
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You might be on to something. Deep Sleep is zero.
From the op his alarm manager has a count of 743. Not sure if that could be attributing. If you believe wifi has something to do with it make sure you uncheck "best wifi performance" or whatever it is called under advanced wifi settings as that has caused wake locks on previous htc devices including the og evo.
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From the op his alarm manager has a count of 743. Not sure if that could be attributing. If you believe wifi has something to do with it make sure you uncheck "best wifi performance" or whatever it is called under advanced wifi settings as that has caused wake locks on previous htc devices including the og evo.
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Good idea! I forgot that I had set that option. I'll see if that makes a difference. Thanks.
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Good idea! I forgot that I had set that option. I'll see if that makes a difference. Thanks.
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Good luck, let us know what the culprit ends up being.
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Good idea! I forgot that I had set that option. I'll see if that makes a difference. Thanks.
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There is also an option under the advance wifi options for keeping Wi-Fi on during sleep. I have mine checked to 'only when plugged in'.
But I don't think it would be the wifi that keeps the device from going to deep sleep. Something is either syncing or keeping it from going to sleep, hence the suspend_backoff. If it is something syncing you should check your alarm/process counts.
For me I know that the one battery widget was definitely keeping a wakelock.
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From the op his alarm manager has a count of 743. Not sure if that could be attributing. If you believe wifi has something to do with it make sure you uncheck "best wifi performance" or whatever it is called under advanced wifi settings as that has caused wake locks on previous htc devices including the og evo.
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We have a winner! This is definitely what was causing the problem. I deselected this option and the suspend_backoff item stopped growing. I left it deselected for a couple of hours just to make sure. As soon as I re-enabled it, the suspend_backoff quantity started climbing again. Thank you very much for your help and thanks for everyone else who shared their ideas. I truly love this place.
Instead of posting screen shots, post a BBS dump. It's in the menu. it contains all the info of the screen shots and more. Make sure you give BBS root permissions too, it'll gather more info (alarms and processes).
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Instead of posting screen shots, post a BBS dump. It's in the menu. it contains all the info of the screen shots and more. Make sure you give BBS root permissions too, it'll gather more info (alarms and processes).
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Thanks for the tip! I'll make use of that next time I have a problem.
erikivy said:
We have a winner! This is definitely what was causing the problem. I deselected this option and the suspend_backoff item stopped growing. I left it deselected for a couple of hours just to make sure. As soon as I re-enabled it, the suspend_backoff quantity started climbing again. Thank you very much for your help and thanks for everyone else who shared their ideas. I truly love this place.
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Good to hear you got it resolved! I have no idea why htc includes this option as i have never seen it cause any performance gains. All i have ever seen it do is cause wakelocks and poor battery life.
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From the op his alarm manager has a count of 743. Not sure if that could be attributing. If you believe wifi has something to do with it make sure you uncheck "best wifi performance" or whatever it is called under advanced wifi settings as that has caused wake locks on previous htc devices including the og evo.
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This solved it for me and pretty much gives me back the 50% battery life that vanished when I turned it on.
Many thanks.
My Samsung Galaxy S2 Battery drains heavily all of a sudden. I noticed that suspend backoff is consuming battery. It doesnt go into deep sleep either. I have attached Battery Stats dump file. Please advise.
Just got the Maxx and so far I'm lovin it.
What Smart Actions are you guys running to help extend battery life? There seems to be a lot of possibilities.
Here's what I have so far:
1.Trigger:
*Wif-Fi Connection
Action:
*Cellular Data (disable)
*Bluetooth (off)
2.Triggers:
*Display (off)
*Charging (not charging)
*Motion Detector (no movement)
Action:
*GPS (off)
*Background Sync (off)
Anything else that might be useful? Can too many actions drain battery life?
I know a lot of people who set their 4g/wifi connection to turn off once the screen has been off for 15 minutes or so. I'm a programmer so my smart actions are never-ending IF statements. Here's some of mine:
Name: Sleep
Trigger: Late-night --> early morning, not charging
Actions: Data off, wifi off, GPS off, display 0% brightness, timeout 15 seconds, sync off, silent
Name: Sleep charging
Trigger: Late-night --> early morning, charging
Actions: Everything on except GPS, brightness 0% (burns my eyes otherwise), silent
Name: Work
Trigger: Wifi on & joined work Wifi
Actions: GPS off, timeout 15 seconds (incase a coworker tries to grab my phone), silent
Name: Charging
Trigger: Daytime
Actions: All sounds set to Loud, no display timeout, adaptive brightness, everything else on
Name: Low Battery
Trigger: Battery < 10%
Actions: Everything off except 3g
Some of these settings increased my battery performance substantially, with weak use of my phone I can make it last about 48 hours (regular RAZR). Never use Bluetooth so I keep it off 24/7
I used Tasker instead of SmartActions
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I used Tasker instead of SmartActions
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It's interesting to see what settings others use. I don't use Smart Actions, I froze the app so it won't run.
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It's interesting to see what settings others use. I don't use Smart Actions, I froze the app so it won't run.
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+1. And I can still go for 2 days with the maxx. Don't see the need for it.
I use trivial things, like loading Spotify when I plug in headphones (more often than not, an Aux cable). And of course the turn off cellular data while on Wifi.
I use quite a lot of actions
1. Sleep
Trigger
- Time : midnight - 00:30-06:30
Action
- Silent and vibrate
- screen timeout 15s
- brightness 0%
2. Wi-Fi
Trigger
- any wifi
Action
- disable mobile data
3. Conserve battery notifier
Trigger
- Time : afternoon - 12:00-18:00
- Battery <50%
- Not charging
Action
- notification remainder
4. Low battery
Trigger
- Not charging
- Battery <25%
Action
- Brightness 5%
- Screen timeout 15s
- notification remainder
5. Meetings
Trigger
- Calendar event (work)
Action
- Silent and Vibrate
6. Low battery-USB charging
Trigger
- Battery <35%
- USB charging
Action
- Brightness 10%
- Screen timeout 15s
7. Alarming battery
Trigger
- Battery <10%
- Not charging
Action
- GPS, Bluetooth, data, background sync all off
- Screen timeout 15s
Smart Actions is freezed on my RazR :thumbup:
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DontCome2MyHouse said:
Just got the Maxx and so far I'm lovin it.
What Smart Actions are you guys running to help extend battery life? There seems to be a lot of possibilities.
Here's what I have so far:
1.Trigger:
*Wif-Fi Connection
Action:
*Cellular Data (disable)
*Bluetooth (off)
2.Triggers:
*Display (off)
*Charging (not charging)
*Motion Detector (no movement)
Action:
*GPS (off)
*Background Sync (off)
Anything else that might be useful? Can too many actions drain battery life?
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first off I recommend you delete the trigger "Motion Detector" from your number 2, I find its sensitive to the slightest movement and seems to override the screen off trigger (meaning whatever your disable with this action will run just from the phone moving even if the screen is still off)
by default I have GPS off completely, on the rare occasion I need it I will turn it on manually.
I use one primary Smart Action and that is a reprogrammed "Battery Extender" with
TRIGGERS:
Screen Off
Charging (not charging)
ACTIONS:
Background Sync (Disable)
Cellular Data (Disable)
basically with these settings when the screen is off its equivalent to a "dumb phone", you can recieve calls and texts but no "push" notifications, this increased the time between charges by atleast 20% for me.
Also as I say in all these threads not forget to regularly (atleast every 2 weeks) power cycle (shutdown then reboot) your phone, I went like the first month of owning without ever shutting it off and when I got in the habit of doing this I noticed atleast a 10% increase in time between charge compared to never shutting off.
Ok, this is annoying. I have my display timeout set to 5 minutes, but when I use the phone functions, the screen timeout is 30 seconds and there seems to be no way to change it. This is very annoying when trying to call an IVR and the screen keeps turning off.
Anyone know how I can fix this issue?
Thanx,
Rob
Thinking you might be able to go into call settings, and turn off your proximity sensor.(ICS rom)...not sure on GB.
this will allow the screen to stay on. and If the screen is touched, will refresh the 5 minute screen off time set by the OS.........
maybe......
try and report.....g
Already tried that with no success. I am using the ICS update. The problem existed in both versions though.
I'm sure I'm not the only one that experiences this....
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Already tried that with no success. I am using the ICS update. The problem existed in both versions though.
I'm sure I'm not the only one that experiences this....
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No, your not, but it sounds like your calling style may be a bit unique....long calls etc.
I'm sure more folks will chime in soon.
Sorry I could'nt help you.....g
What case and screen protector are you using? The sensor has to be uncovered. Its in the top right corner.
No case and no screen protector. Same issue on 2 friend's Notes'. It is a bug, just want to know if someone has found/fixed it.
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No case and no screen protector. Same issue on 2 friend's Notes'. It is a bug, just want to know if someone has found/fixed it.
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Just because you don't like the way it works doesn't mean it's a bug. I'm sure the intention is to prevent accidental touches when a phone call is ongoing. It's more likely just not implemented well.
At any rate, try this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gr.androiddev.ScreenOn
@lactardjosh:
Thats a cool app. I was just getting annoyed about the blippin' screen going off while reading ( I'm slow ).
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I'm not sure that everyone reading this is quite understanding the problem.
Here's the easiest example:
1 - Phone yourself and leave a long detailed voicemail
2 - Call in to check that voicemail...but on speakerphone
3 - While listening to the voicemail, the screen will go dim after 30 seconds, regardless of your backlight setting.
The problem is that it's annoying to have to turn the screen back on (press the power button) just to press the on-screen buttons to save/delete the message. The same problem can occur while navigating any "touch tone" prompt system.
It would be nice if the phone function would follow the same backlight timeout settings as the rest of the phone.
Is that a power saving setting?
I understand the issue; it happens to me, too. And I also find it annoying.
It happens on my friend's Droid Razr Maxx, too.
OOOhhhhhhh....good thought !!
gonna try it now....g
@ RC...
I don't think so because I have the power saving stuff off. I'm amazed to be the first to complain about this. I suffered through this with GB, hoping that ICS would fix it, but to no avail. That PowerOn app is nice. I'm trying it now. Thanx for the suggestion. The right fix would be to set the phone app to follow the screen timeout.
Yeah, Rbeaubien is right-- the power saving settings didn't do it either.
The app that lactardjosh suggested is the only working solution.
Edit: I tried the app. It was a little work to set it up, and it works perfect. Thanks Josh!
Glad it worked.
The proximity sensor still works properly with that app enabled?
This has been driving me crazy. It does it even when not on a call or VM. Just leave the dialer open. Feels like it shuts off in a couple seconds. I make a ton of calls from my phone for work and it drives me insane that the dialer shuts off if I'm taking a while to put in the number.
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The ap Screebl works the best for me. Once you set the orientation the way you want, the light stays on till your phone goes below that point.
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No case and no screen protector. Same issue on 2 friend's Notes'. It is a bug, just want to know if someone has found/fixed it.
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Its not a bug. The screen timeout does not work with what you have set. It defaults back to the 30 seconds to keep from accidentally hitting buttons while on calls. Samsung will tell u the same thing. It happens on my note infuse and skyrocket. Also on the inspire when i had it. ITS NOT A BUG!
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Its not a bug. The screen timeout does not work with what you have set. It defaults back to the 30 seconds to keep from accidentally hitting buttons while on calls. Samsung will tell u the same thing. It happens on my note infuse and skyrocket. Also on the inspire when i had it. ITS NOT A BUG!
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Ok, it's not a bug, it's a POORLY implemented feature..... The proximity sensor is the feature that will keep you from hitting buttons accidentally.
And the ScreenOn app doesn't work all the time when on battery. Still annoying. Better than without though...
Just since yesterday, my phone has consumed battery really fast.. usually i would have only finish one set of battery in a day, but i'm experiencing battery drainage of like ~30% in 1.5hours, and that's even without using my phone (sleep mode).. my phone seems to heat up very easily, and i could feel my phone's heat most of the time in my pocket..
i dont think it's the battery's problem as i have tried with my spare battery, and both battery displayed the same problem.. so it seems that the problem might lies in my phone..
Also, i have noticed that recently my phone takes quite a long time to respond to certain commands, like when i tapped my phone with the NFC tag to bring out the media player, it takes like 10mins later to automatically play the song (prior to this problem, almost immediately)
i also read up about the Sudden Death issue in SGS3, and i'm afraid that this might be the pre-bricked syndrome, and i would like to backup my data and apps.. does anyone know of a good and reliable app for backup?
*i didnt root my phone or flashing any roms
Regards,
A phone newb
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tzhexuan said:
Just since yesterday, my phone has consumed battery really fast.. usually i would have only finish one set of battery in a day, but i'm experiencing battery drainage of like ~30% in 1.5hours, and that's even without using my phone (sleep mode).. my phone seems to heat up very easily, and i could feel my phone's heat most of the time in my pocket..
i dont think it's the battery's problem as i have tried with my spare battery, and both battery displayed the same problem.. so it seems that the problem might lies in my phone..
Also, i have noticed that recently my phone takes quite a long time to respond to certain commands, like when i tapped my phone with the NFC tag to bring out the media player, it takes like 10mins later to automatically play the song (prior to this problem, almost immediately)
i also read up about the Sudden Death issue in SGS3, and i'm afraid that this might be the pre-bricked syndrome, and i would like to backup my data and apps.. does anyone know of a good and reliable app for backup?
*i didnt root my phone or flashing any roms
Regards,
A phone newb
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Sounds like you got some pretty nasty wakelocks, use BetterBatteryStats and try to locate the issue. Or something is wrong with the set-up of your phone. Check and recheck!
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tzhexuan said:
Just since yesterday, my phone has consumed battery really fast.. usually i would have only finish one set of battery in a day, but i'm experiencing battery drainage of like ~30% in 1.5hours, and that's even without using my phone (sleep mode).. my phone seems to heat up very easily, and i could feel my phone's heat most of the time in my pocket..
i dont think it's the battery's problem as i have tried with my spare battery, and both battery displayed the same problem.. so it seems that the problem might lies in my phone..
Also, i have noticed that recently my phone takes quite a long time to respond to certain commands, like when i tapped my phone with the NFC tag to bring out the media player, it takes like 10mins later to automatically play the song (prior to this problem, almost immediately)
i also read up about the Sudden Death issue in SGS3, and i'm afraid that this might be the pre-bricked syndrome, and i would like to backup my data and apps.. does anyone know of a good and reliable app for backup?
*i didnt root my phone or flashing any roms
Regards,
A phone newb
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without root it will be difficult to (1) find the battery drainer and (2) backup data.
should you decide to root you could use BetterBatteryStats as mentioned and for backups (1) Titanium Backup (Apps & data) and (2) a CWM nandroid (full phone backup with anything on it).
tzhexuan said:
Just since yesterday, my phone has consumed battery really fast.. usually i would have only finish one set of battery in a day, but i'm experiencing battery drainage of like ~30% in 1.5hours, and that's even without using my phone (sleep mode).. my phone seems to heat up very easily, and i could feel my phone's heat most of the time in my pocket..
Also, i have noticed that recently my phone takes quite a long time to respond to certain commands.
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I have got exactly the same problems as you, it started a few days ago so I'm guessing some app update has screwed something. The symptoms I'm seeing are:
Battery drains from 100% to flat in about 4 hours without any phone use and while screen is off (normally lasts easily 24 hours).
Phone is warm to the touch (not hot, but warm) even when idle.
Long delays in processing Bluetooth button presses through to my audio app (~45 seconds for PowerAmp to respond), and also similar with my three-button cabled headset button presses.
15-30 second delays in updating widget icons on homepages (e.g. wi-fi on/off icon status changing, NFC Task Launcher's 'last used' wording on the widget, etc).
Delays in clock updating (the system clock in the upper-right of info bar).
Battery info for Android System shows the "Stay awake" time is almost as long as the current "phone on battery" time. So something seems to be wakelocking and stopping it going to sleep properly.
I'm going to check more now to see if I can find the culprit, but if anyone knows anything about this, please could they post here too? Thanks.
Andre
(Samsung ICS 4.0.4 ROM, rooted)
One clue for some identical posts may be an app not sourced from the market is in fact a trojan .
jje
JJEgan said:
One clue for some identical posts may be an app not sourced from the market is in fact a trojan.
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It's always possible, but I doubt it. I'm pretty careful about the source of what I install and check that apps are the genuine item rather than trojan copies. I do install some betas from known xda developers, but I trust them fully. Nothing new was installed around the time when this started anyway.
Attached wakelock info is for the last 3 hours since phone was charged. I'm aware of a possible DHCP-searching issue with the wlan_rx_wake process, but this problem occurs just as badly with wi-fi turned off too - and as I said, this battery drain issue has only been happening for a few days.
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Battery drains from 100% to flat in about 4 hours without any phone use and while screen is off (normally lasts easily 24 hours).
Phone is warm to the touch (not hot, but warm) even when idle.
Long delays in processing Bluetooth button presses through to my audio app (~45 seconds for PowerAmp to respond), and also similar with my three-button cabled headset button presses.
15-30 second delays in updating widget icons on homepages (e.g. wi-fi on/off icon status changing, NFC Task Launcher's 'last used' wording on the widget, etc).
Delays in clock updating (the system clock in the upper-right of info bar).
Battery info for Android System shows the "Stay awake" time is almost as long as the current "phone on battery" time. So something seems to be wakelocking and stopping it going to sleep properly.
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:\ same here, everything ^
from sunday ;\\\\\
Matthew
Sammmm JB 4.1.2
I wonder what we all have in common then, as it sounds like whatever happened hit us all at around the same time? I'm guessing it's being caused by an app update, I'll see if I can list what has updated on my phone in the last 7 days.
Andre
OK, I just checked what apps updated themselves during this time period (from 16 March onward, checked using Quick System Info Pro) and they are as follows:
22 March: BBC News, Bubble Blast, Facebook, NFC Task Launcher*, Ustream, CurrentWidget, Angry Birds (Space), AndChat
23 March: Samsung Account*, SCloudStarter, HD Widgets
24 March: Adobe Reader, Compass, Whats App, Flipboard*, Titanium Backup, Nobel Dialer, Angry Birds (Star Wars), Angry Birds (Seasons), PowerAmp
25 March: Google+*, FourSquare
Mostly fairly common apps, but maybe there's something in there that might help?
Andre
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OK, I just checked what apps updated themselves during this time period (from 16 March onward, checked using Quick System Info Pro) and they are as follows:
22 March: BBC News, Bubble Blast, Facebook, NFC Task Launcher*, Ustream, CurrentWidget, Angry Birds (Space), AndChat
23 March: Samsung Account*, SCloudStarter, HD Widgets
24 March: Adobe Reader, Compass, Whats App, Flipboard*, Titanium Backup, Nobel Dialer, Angry Birds (Star Wars), Angry Birds (Seasons), PowerAmp
25 March: Google+*, FourSquare
Mostly fairly common apps, but maybe there's something in there that might help?
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that is mine (red)
i got Gmail on 25.03 and you ?
I would put Facebook and Samsung right at the top of the most likely list!
sk0lm4n said:
i got Gmail on 25.03 and you ?
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Possibly, I got another gmail update today though, so I don't know the previous history now.
I'm on T-Mobile UK as carrier by the way, in case that matters (could be a Fast Dormancy issue or somesuch).
Andre
andrewilley said:
OK, I just checked what apps updated themselves during this time period (from 16 March onward, checked using Quick System Info Pro) and they are as follows:
22 March: BBC News, Bubble Blast, Facebook, NFC Task Launcher*, Ustream, CurrentWidget, Angry Birds (Space), AndChat
23 March: Samsung Account*, SCloudStarter, HD Widgets
24 March: Adobe Reader, Compass, Whats App, Flipboard*, Titanium Backup, Nobel Dialer, Angry Birds (Star Wars), Angry Birds (Seasons), PowerAmp
25 March: Google+*, FourSquare
Mostly fairly common apps, but maybe there's something in there that might help?
Andre
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I am glad I'm not the only one - my apps in red. I first noticed this problem on Saturday 23rd and it's driving me nuts. I'm only getting 5 hours of use out of the phone because something is preventing it from going into deep sleep. In addition to the phone getting warm as others have said, I have also noticed some other issues:
sms messages take ages to send
clicking the keyboard switcher in the notifications takes ages to show list
clicking refresh on weather widget takes ages before gps icon appears and weather info hardly ever updates. However if you click on the weather widget and open up the full screen it refreshes quickly.
Clicking the software update button to check for firmware updates takes ages to show the popup.
sometimes the screen doesn't turn on instantly on pressing the power button
most other things are performing at normal speed
I have tried various things but still haven't nailed the problem. I used BBS to see what was causing the wakelocks and it had Google+ AlarmManager and LocationServices at the top. I disabled both of these and it helped a bit, but after doing this BBS had a list of partial wakelocks which didn't add up to the total time the phone was awake. I tried uninstalling Facebook and BBC News and that didn't really make much difference.
UPDATE - just uninstalled HD Widgets and keyboard select popup,weather update, software update are now instant again. Maybe this is the problem with battery drain too. I didn't try that before because I'm not actually using any of the widgets so I'll see how it goes...
Solved by uninstalling HD Widgets
Seems to have done the trick. Spends much more time in deep sleep now and gpsd is now top of the list on the Battery usage whereas before it was Google+. Hopefully HD Widgets will release an update soon.
ashmont said:
I am glad I'm not the only one - my apps in red. I first noticed this problem on Saturday 23rd and it's driving me nuts. I'm only getting 5 hours of use out of the phone because something is preventing it from going into deep sleep. In addition to the phone getting warm as others have said, I have also noticed some other issues:
sms messages take ages to send
clicking the keyboard switcher in the notifications takes ages to show list
clicking refresh on weather widget takes ages before gps icon appears and weather info hardly ever updates. However if you click on the weather widget and open up the full screen it refreshes quickly.
Clicking the software update button to check for firmware updates takes ages to show the popup.
sometimes the screen doesn't turn on instantly on pressing the power button
most other things are performing at normal speed
I have tried various things but still haven't nailed the problem. I used BBS to see what was causing the wakelocks and it had Google+ AlarmManager and LocationServices at the top. I disabled both of these and it helped a bit, but after doing this BBS had a list of partial wakelocks which didn't add up to the total time the phone was awake. I tried uninstalling Facebook and BBC News and that didn't really make much difference.
UPDATE - just uninstalled HD Widgets and keyboard select popup,weather update, software update are now instant again. Maybe this is the problem with battery drain too. I didn't try that before because I'm not actually using any of the widgets so I'll see how it goes...
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ashmont said:
Seems to have done the trick. Spends much more time in deep sleep now and gpsd is now top of the list on the Battery usage whereas before it was Google+. Hopefully HD Widgets will release an update soon.
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Great news. I've just removed HD Widgets from my phone too (I've used Beautiful Widgets for some time now so it was a waste of space anyway) and certainly the responsiveness of widgets is much faster, and headset button controls are working instantly again. Battery life I'll know in the morning, as with car Bluetooth controls, but it's certainly looking promising so far.
Andre
andrewilley said:
Great news. I've just removed HD Widgets from my phone too (I've used Beautiful Widgets for some time now so it was a waste of space anyway) and certainly the responsiveness of widgets is much faster, and headset button controls are working instantly again. Battery life I'll know in the morning, as with car Bluetooth controls, but it's certainly looking promising so far.
Andre
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I believe removing HD Widgets did the trick. First I uninstalled all apps that I didn't need or hadn't used in a while. Secondly I tried to uninstalling all Samsung apps, but as I am not rooted, no success. Sammy apps was my prime suspect as they had just updated. None of it changed the battery drain. I also had battery drain of about 20-25% per hour without phone usage.
It was HD Widgets that was causing problems, uninstalling helped. Afterwards, I can now see the battery curve steepness flattened quite dramatically afterwards. The awake process bar in the battery explanation is no longer solid. The phone made it through the night without any problems.
Thank you guys, much appreciated
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:good: and world is safe again
everything back to normal
HD Widgets have just released version 3.9.1 according to Google Play, which is trying to address the battery drain issue. If anyone here has not yet uninstalled the app, could they try this update first and see if that resolves the problem as the devs are looking for confirmation?
(I can confirm that the March 23 update to HD Widgets was definitely the killer by the way - after I removed it last night, my phone had only dropped to 90% battery this morning after 7 hours asleep, and responsiveness and control buttons are all back to normal)
Andre
28 Hours Unplugged & 7:14 Screen On Time- Beans Build 6
27 Hours Unplugged & 9:52 Screen On Time- Baja 5.5 Beta
*see bottom of post for screens of these results
With the GN3's monster display, all the usable features, and the integration into our normal daily activities, I knew getting a FULL DAY unplugged would be the Holy Grail for this device. So I set out to find the settings, apps and tips that offered the most benefit of the device's features while still providing incredible battery life. These are based on a ROOTED, Verizon LTE, standard battery device (some settings are useful for Stock, non-Rooted devices as well)
ONCE a month I will run the battery down to <5% then charge it to 100% without interruption. The rest of the time I charge the battery when it reaches between 20-30%. With a ton of reading, THIS method seems to be the universal middle ground to keep your GN3 battery healthy, and get the most charges out of it.
Here's what I've found so far: feel free to add your input on what works for you!
Basic, Easy To Adjust Settings:
Display Brightness: 50-75% (Auto - Off)
This usually more than enough for normal use, and with most Custom Roms having a Brightness Quick Toggle, or a Brightness slider in the Notification Bar, it is very easy and quick to change this setting to watch videos or in bright light situations.
Turn Off GPS In Location Settings
Many of us use GPS regularly, but very few of us need it on 24/7. Believe it or not, GPS constantly correcting position, and constantly updating apps using location info takes a lot of power over the period of an entire day. Manually activating GPS is a quick toggle away when it is needed.
Turn Off SYNC In Google settings
Syncing a bazillion apps every 30 min or few hours adds up at the end of a full day! When I check my email, FaceBook, Twitter, Weather, Stocks, (you get the picture) I just sync THAT app. If I am doing a mass information check, I'll SYNC ALL, but I do it manually.
Most feel the need for email, FaceBook, Twitter updates to be instantaneous and constant. IF constant connectivity is your goal, and it is certainly your choice, just realize it won't come with great battery life. It's about balance. I believe my settings find a good middle ground between ALWAYS ON and ZERO FUNCTION.
Screen Timeout In Display Setting - Set To 30 Seconds
This one saves the power button AND battery, and it's self explanatory.
Power Saving Mode In Settings
Power Saving Mode give you the option to limit CPU performance, use lower power consumption in the display, and turning off haptic feedback (vibrate on key touch, etc) ALL which require additional power, reducing battery life. If you need one of these to be changed, easy access and toggling makes the change quick and simple.
Turn Off Wi-Fi Settings
For additional batt life, go to settings > wi-fi > soft menu key > advanced > uncheck Wi-Fi Notification & Always Allow Scanning. Some users report noticeable increase in batt life unchecking these settings.
Turn ON Smart Network (rom specific)
Turn on Smart Network in settings>more settings to aid in extending battery life. Simply put, Smart Network temporarily turns off the network after a period of non-use, and when your device screen is turned on again, it turns the network ON. This DOES NOT affect INCOMING calls, texts, or any INCOMING communications. It does take a second or two for the network to reconnect, but it is negligible and barely noticeable.
FREE Apps To Help Increase Battery Life:
GREENIFY - Play Store
This app basically gives you the ability to place apps that usually run in the background in a "Hibernate" state. When you click on the widget or the app to use it, it automatically "Wakes Up" and you have use of the app. After a period of inactivity that app places itself back into "Hibernation" until the next time you need it. Set up consists of downloading the app, highlighting the apps you do not want to constantly function in the background, and hitting the checkmark. UI for Gereenify is simple and very effective.
Better Battery Stats - Play Store
BBS gives you an overall view of what your battery is doing, what is using it the most, what is causing wake-locks and anything else going on with the battery. UI is fairly simple, knowing what to look for is probably the hardest part of using BBS. If an unknown app is keeping your device form going into DEEP SLEEP, you'll see it here. If an app is running your CPUs ragged, you'll see which CPU frequencies are being used and for how long.
Perfect System Monitor - Play Store
AS you can tell by the name, this app monitors most of your device's important system functions. The functions that can help you catch a battery hungry app are; CPU Frequency, Cpu Usage, Battery Voltage, Current Network Up and Download... If any app is acting a fool without you knowing it, or running in the background sending 150 other apps your Google stats sucking your battery life, this app will let you see in real time if something has your cpu pegged, your battery voltage pegged or your network active without you using it.
Extreme Battery Saving Measures:
Turn Off Notifications
Turn off NOTIFICATIONS from apps that frequently send notifications (Twitter, FaceBook, Instagram, etc.) When you open these apps they usually update themselves upon opening. Again, if staying in CONSTANT contact with every app is your goal, forget trying to save battery life
Turn Off Vibration
Self explanatory
Consolidate Widgets Into Folders
Individual WIDGETS each use a little power to connect themselves to the app they represent. When placed in FOLDERS, their individual "footprint" is reduced significantly as is the power required t display each widget. Instead of having 45 individual widgets on your home screen, consolidate similar widgets into FOLDERS. Creating a folder varies by Rom You can try long press on home screen, create or click FOLDER, name the FOLDER (optional), drag similar widgets into the folder.
Below are from Beans Build 6
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Below are from Baja 5.5 beta
Just downloaded greenify last night and increased my battery life from around 14 hours to around 20 hours was very pleased with that app so using the rest of these tips I should get even more
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I don't see the smart network feature on mine.
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kyle1087 said:
I don't see the smart network feature on mine.
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Look for battery with up & down arrows in notification quick toggles, and in settings> more settings > top of page
Notorious 3
Great advice bro. I got 1 day 17 hours and 4 hours screen on time and the only thing I turned off was the gps toggle and I greenify a lot of apps..smart network is always off, I never turn on power saving mode and display time is about the same as you as well as brightness. I'm going to try some of your advice and see how far I can go. Thanks great post.
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Don't know why this didn't post with other pic.
P2o8wer said:
Great advice bro. I got 1 day 17 hours and 4 hours screen on time and the only thing I turned off was the gps toggle and I greenify a lot of apps..smart network is always off, I never turn on power saving mode and display time is about the same as you as well as brightness. I'm going to try some of your advice and see how far I can go. Thanks great post.
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It's not that anyone needs 30 hrs unplugged, it's just seeing what can be done, that's the way I look at it You got good unplugged time. Let me know if trying a few of these little things adds up to even better times!
If you have any tricks not mentioned here, certainly put them out there and I'll add em with credit!
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Look for battery with up & down arrows in notification quick toggles, and in settings> more settings > top of page
Notorious 3
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Can't find it. This is what it looks like.
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kyle1087 said:
Can't find it. This is what it looks like.
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That's odd. It's not there
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Pull it notification down and click on the squares with the guy in the middle and take a screen shot an post it
P2o8wer said:
That's odd. It's not there
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Pull it notification down and click on the squares with the guy in the middle and take a screen shot an post it
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Try these locations
Notorious 3
Just thought it was worth mentioning that since our display is AMOLED a dark theme/background will also help reduce display battery drain. If a pixel is black the screen doesn't turn on that pixel. Check out http://www.techradar.com/us/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/the-galaxy-note-3-s-stunning-full-hd-super-amoled-display-explained-1196392 for a better explanation.
Mine doesn't have Smart Network.
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Mine (stock rooted MJE) doesn't have smart network either. I see the OP is running Bean/Baja/Eclipse ROM, so it may be a feature added for that ROM.
That aside, smart network looks interesting, but reminds me of Juicedefender back when I used it with my DInc. Can anyone confirm that push notifications (that work through data) actually work with it? If they do work, I'm would flash one of those ROMs right now.
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That's odd. It's not there
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Pull it notification down and click on the squares with the guy in the middle and take a screen shot an post it
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Still nothing. Must be added in your ROM or something
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az_biker said:
Look for battery with up & down arrows in notification quick toggles, and in settings> more settings > top of page
Notorious 3
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The only icon in the notification quick toggles with up and down arrows is the one for turning mobile data on and off. I can't find it either.
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KruseLudsMobile said:
The only icon in the notification quick toggles with up and down arrows is the one for turning mobile data on and off. I can't find it either.
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I thought this was a normal MJE update feature... try Baja Rom, Eclipse, or Jelly 'beans' by beanstown106...
Notorious 3
@az_biker nice thread here bro. Guys the tips that az_biker has given everyone here is right on. We should all be able to get a full days use and not have to worry about charging through the day. I've been unplugging at 4am and streaming music all day over 3g in a factory and browsing forums and Web through the day and still have over half a battery at 8pm.
changt34x said:
Mine (stock rooted MJE) doesn't have smart network either. I see the OP is running Bean/Baja/Eclipse ROM, so it may be a feature added for that ROM.
That aside, smart network looks interesting, but reminds me of Juicedefender back when I used it with my DInc. Can anyone confirm that push notifications (that work through data) actually work with it? If they do work, I'm would flash one of those ROMs right now.
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I get all my notifications, calls, texts, game updates, gmail alerts, and haven't seen ANY blocking/loss of functionality when using Smart Network. Logically if it prohibited any of those functions, no one would want to use it
Great thread boss!! Love the tips. Greenify is such a cool app. Thanks again for sharing this :thumbup:
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