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So a friend of mine could possibly be selling me his x10 for a ridiculously low price, which I found out from another friend to be because of (possible) overheating issues because he tried overclocking the phone; and after trying to bring it back down to the original speed it still is overheating.
Before I get into something that would completely waste my money, is there a way for me to be able to fix it so it works normally or would this be something that I should completely avoid all together. Basically, I'd like for some tutorials provided that can help me rectify this problem.
Thanks for any help provided.
its not possible to over clock the phone right now... so idk what your friend did. Also what kind of overheating issue is it? Getting really hot? or shutting down a lot?
Well thats was how I understood it as. And from the sounds of things it seems like it is just getting overly hot.
jonnyg1097 said:
Well thats was how I understood it as. And from the sounds of things it seems like it is just getting overly hot.
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It's possible it's just his battery that's shorted. Maybe another battery? That or the GPS chip runs constantly... I know mine heats up when the GPS runs at full. I also say try and flash the firmware back to a regular ROM (Without mods).
Those are my ideas. Otherwise toss it in the freezer! haha
Sounds like new need some Arctic Silver, Heat Sink and a 200CFM SUNON!
Its a hardware fault. It will eventualy start rebooting, and after that it wil start shutting itself down or locking... i think its something with the pmu but not sure. If it has warranty send it to repair...
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So a friend of mine could possibly be selling me his x10 for a ridiculously low price, which I found out from another friend to be because of (possible) overheating issues because he tried overclocking the phone; and after trying to bring it back down to the original speed it still is overheating.
Before I get into something that would completely waste my money, is there a way for me to be able to fix it so it works normally or would this be something that I should completely avoid all together. Basically, I'd like for some tutorials provided that can help me rectify this problem.
Thanks for any help provided.
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nice friend!!! lol
biktor_gj said:
Its a hardware fault. It will eventualy start rebooting, and after that it wil start shutting itself down or locking... i think its something with the pmu but not sure. If it has warranty send it to repair...
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My Xperia started overheating and now its having very frequent restart cycles from several days. Is it a hardware fault in the Xperia X10?
At least on my first x10, it started like that, then only went worse. the first sign was when doing generous amount of traffic (heavy browsing, downloading some apps at the same time...) it started rebooting. After that it started doing it whenever it got network, during calls... even when reflashing.
So I would flash back to stock, then take it a day for a ride with.a backup phone. If it reboots even once, send it to repair...
I'm also experiencing the frequent reboot problem. It seems the best solution I've found was to send it back to SE for repair/replacement. That solution is unacceptable for me, as I spent $600+ for an imported x10a when it first was released, and as such, SE has deemed my phone "gray market" and I would need to pay for repairs.
I love my x10, but $800 for a phone that's still severely outdated and lacking some high-end functions is just not worth it.
I am convinced that the problem stems from a faulty temperature sensor in the motherboard. My phone is definitely not hot to touch, and it seems that just placing it in front of a fan alleviates the rebooting problem.
Do any devs know of a way to disable the temperature sensor either through an app or via adb?
Its doesnt look like bad sensor, but a bad ic on the board or a bad solder point.
For me it ended up getting stucked even on the bootloader, where everything is 'out of order'. The only way i got to reflash it was using my car's air conditioner at 16 degrees... didnt have warranty either, so the board now resides half dead on my desk...
Ouch. Sad to hear. Did you order a new mb or a brand new phone? If just the mb, mind sharing where you got it from and the price?
I bought a second x10 and left the other one for testing and parts... though this x10 is starting to get a little warm too, lets hope this doesnt die too...
The display ous on max, turn it down...that's why it's hot as hell
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lol you did just like me i bought another X10 today check my (motherboard problem thread) guys pls if there anything to avoid this problem tell me from now , i have 2 X10 now
The problem:-
1- restarts many times.
2-randomly shut down when i open Wi-Fi or apps or use it for more than 5 mins.
3-can't turn on sometimes and can't turn on using charger , only pc companion.
4-Burning Smell.
i know there's another thread talks about this problem but pleaese it's a serious common problem , i bought the mobile yesterday and i can't replace it , i've seen this post in SE forms : -
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It cost about more than 2 hours,and i sat near the engineer looked at what he was doing,everything.
1. He said before this one,he has fix 4 x10 with the same problem.He checked my phone and told me he must take the phone to parts,i agreeed.
2.The restart problem is neither a software problem nor briefly hardware problem.The reason most likely is welding procedure .Between X10's CPU and the chassis on the M/B there is no bayonet(i'm not sure it's the right word), so the closeness of them only depends on colophony(another word i use google to translate it) and solder (the third one).He said when x10 is koncked or bumped,fissure or something others may appear,and when CPU runs at a high level,the ammeter shows a number above 200mA,you can think its fever.Because goods expand with heat and contract with cold，here comes the flexibility.It may influence the contact between cpu and chassis.So the restart happens. He get the CPU off M/B,clear and rebuilt solder on them very carefully,and packed everything back.THIS COST TWO HOURS.
3.When parts became back to a phone,I push sim card,sd card back,truned it on,it booted successed.Then i run the Backup and Restore app,no problem.Before repaired erverytime i run it, the phone restarted.view www web use the brower by 3G, opened servel windows,no problem;Played Asphalt 5 for 10 mins,the phone became hot,still no problem.So i paid for it and left.That cost fuxk 500RMB,nearly 100$!!!!!!!!!!
4.When the engineer was soleing it, i talked to him,he said G7 also has a lot of problem,G7 use the smae CPU as x10,it also may restart.
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anyone tried this?????
please if anyone has fixed this problem (i know i can change the motherboard but it cost alot , I need Electric solve) . and it's not a software problem at all and n ot in the battry .
this is the best forms for PPC's so i don't have to post this in every site so better sign up and replay please maybe someone can help...
64 views and no answer -,-
and btw the phone works well when it's cold but it shut down when it's worm or using Wi-Fi or Calling . so to re-operate it you need to put it in air conditioner then but the battery back and switch on
So far no problem.
By the way the phone had no warranty?
yea , i bought it used and it looks that someone bought it from china and sell it here so the warranty doesn't cover my country.
thanx for telling me that x10 doesn't have another factory problems.
i send it today to one of those small repair places , they said the IC's are burned because of short circuit or something like that so we'll see what will happen tomorrow.
it cost me around 100$ but it doesn't matter as long it work.
sorry to say it but you buy cheap, you get cheap. might have to shell out for some repair work or ditch it and buy a new one. hard luck man.
hemo1001 said:
The problem:-
1- restarts many times.
2-randomly shut down when i open Wi-Fi or apps or use it for more than 5 mins.
3-can't turn on sometimes and can't turn on using charger , only pc companion.
4-Burning Smell.
i know there's another thread talks about this problem but pleaese it's a serious common problem , i bought the mobile yesterday and i can't replace it , i've seen this post in SE forms : -
............................................................................................................
It cost about more than 2 hours,and i sat near the engineer looked at what he was doing,everything.
1. He said before this one,he has fix 4 x10 with the same problem.He checked my phone and told me he must take the phone to parts,i agreeed.
2.The restart problem is neither a software problem nor briefly hardware problem.The reason most likely is welding procedure .Between X10's CPU and the chassis on the M/B there is no bayonet(i'm not sure it's the right word), so the closeness of them only depends on colophony(another word i use google to translate it) and solder (the third one).He said when x10 is koncked or bumped,fissure or something others may appear,and when CPU runs at a high level,the ammeter shows a number above 200mA,you can think its fever.Because goods expand with heat and contract with cold,here comes the flexibility.It may influence the contact between cpu and chassis.So the restart happens. He get the CPU off M/B,clear and rebuilt solder on them very carefully,and packed everything back.THIS COST TWO HOURS.
3.When parts became back to a phone,I push sim card,sd card back,truned it on,it booted successed.Then i run the Backup and Restore app,no problem.Before repaired erverytime i run it, the phone restarted.view www web use the brower by 3G, opened servel windows,no problem;Played Asphalt 5 for 10 mins,the phone became hot,still no problem.So i paid for it and left.That cost fuxk 500RMB,nearly 100$!!!!!!!!!!
4.When the engineer was soleing it, i talked to him,he said G7 also has a lot of problem,G7 use the smae CPU as x10,it also may restart.
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anyone tried this?????
please if anyone has fixed this problem (i know i can change the motherboard but it cost alot , I need Electric solve) . and it's not a software problem at all and n ot in the battry .
this is the best forms for PPC's so i don't have to post this in every site so better sign up and replay please maybe someone can help...
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my friend I am sorry but there is no quick fix for something like this. To repair SMT type circuit boards you need a clean room environment and also some very expensive equipment. My advice is to get a new handset, there are a few people on here that need some parts for their phones and you can off set the cost of a new handset that way.
thanx for the advice , i'll replace it with one that works and with a warranty . this will be my last time buying cheap S***, i really like it and i hope they release android 2.0 soon for it.
hemo1001 said:
thanx for the advice , i'll replace it with one that works and with a warranty . this will be my last time buying cheap S***, i really like it and i hope they release android 2.0 soon for it.
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As I said there are people who need parts, so it will not be a total loss!
where are you located? I need a few bits.
Tomorrow i'll sell it with around 150 dollar, i'll replace it with another X10 but with WARRANTY this time
just found this thread and it seems to describe my problem with my x10. If the crashing is heat related would using a cpu underclock help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831658 for more info
my phone doesnt charge the battery, but charging animation is playing, gave to service centre,they told motherboard replacement,but that told we dont do for the handsets without warranty.... pls help how can i sort this prob.
I don't agree with the first post, I had this problem too, and the problem was bad, but as soon I as I flashed with the latest firmware, that problem seems to have been fixed, gone by 2 days without any restarts.
i also have this problem.
The worse is now my charged battery will become red low batt at first and recharge itself back to normal without plug in power...i think i just solve the world energy problem here.
May have fixed the problem, for a bit.
I bought one of these used (x10a), I basically got ripped off by some guy that must have known about the issue. Anyway, I tore the phone apart down to the screen, I left that intact. I cleaned the housing, motherboard and sound jack with compressed air (lightly), cleaned contacts that looked a little dull. I noticed the foil covering the CPU and other components was a little askew and there were some heat bubbles forming. I used a mini spatula as a squeegee and got rid of the bubbles, cleaned up the edges around the foil to insure they didn't contact their neighbors and put the thing back together.
Before this I could use the phone for a call for longer than 2 minutes, the second I ended the call it would crash/reboot. Same with playing games and listening to music at the same time. Movies, forget it. I don't want to curse it because it has only been a day, but no crashes yet and I'm doing/running everything I can to try and get this thing to crash. If it was the bubbles contacting other metal in the chassis then they will probably return sometime in the future.
Who knows.
For now, I say it's fixed. I hope.
I downloaded the schematic and disassembly, reassembly instructions off the net.
UPDATE: Cleaning did not work, I really didn't think it would but it was worth a try. I did however rebake the main board in my convection oven for 10 minutes at 210 degrees Celsius and it worked. I have uploaded videos to youtube. If you're like me, no warranty and don't mind tearing things apart. Check out my videos on youtube, do a search for MrSpywhite.
I had the same problem and SE replaced the motherboard.
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UPDATE: Cleaning did not work, I really didn't think it would but it was worth a try. I did however rebake the main board in my convection oven for 10 minutes at 210 degrees Celsius and it worked. I have uploaded videos to youtube. If you're like me, no warranty and don't mind tearing things apart. Check out my videos on youtube, do a search for MrSpywhite.
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That sounds like good news, I have a friend with a similar problem, but his phone has the same behaviour faster than yours... did really work? any problems after the bake? (mic, speaker) ?
Sorry for bumping in a old thread but I am also facing the same problem i guess. Anyone got it to work ?
The motherboard is costing me Rs.8000 ( 160$ approx ) and its a 2 yr old phone. Cant spend that much now on such an old phone.
This solution might help on that cases, as main reason for such things are Pb free soldering (small balls between CPU and MB).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37819145&postcount=12
Of course you do it on your own risk...
I bought my Eris off of a friend who bought it from Verizon. so im not the original owner. But when i bought it he thought it was broken because it wouldnt turn on but for a sec (long enough to see 3 androids skateboarding for like a half second) and then turn off. Turns out it was just the battery ($20 for the phone, another $18 for batteries, i got a deal ) but before we realized it was the battery, i went all surgeon on it and took it apart to see if the charge port was loose (the battery wouldnt charge) in the process i ****ed up the track ball and the microphone (still worked, just mic would go in and out, and trackball only scrolls left and right.) Now the microphone has stopped working completely, could i call verizon and say my microphone doesnt work anymore and they replace it? Or would they not do that because im not the original owner/the phone has been taken apart (of course i wouldnt tell them that, but would i have to send them the phone first, thus they discover it had been)
The warranty is void if the phone has been taken apart (yeah they could tell real easy). Besides, the warranty doesn't transfer if the phone is sold to someone else. Only the original purchaser has the warranty. Sorry but seems like your screwed. Good thing you didn't put too much money into the phone.
Sent from my rooted HTC Droid Eris with Tazz Froyo Vanilla 17
Alright :\ thanks for the info, im due an upgrade so i guess i better start savin up for the droid 2. back to the Touch Pro for now :'( lol
Was this a question or wishful thinking? I'm pretty certain that they have a very tiny sticker on there somewhere that says if it is removed that your warranty is void, and you have to take that sticker off to take the phone apart because one of the screws in below it. I recall seeing it when I was considering taking one of many of my Eris's apart to fix the track ball issue.
a little bit of both, however the piece of black adhesive over the screw on mine said nothing, it was just black plastic with adhesive backing. its alright tho, incidentally after leaving it off for a week, i picked it up to play with it and the microphone works again. so whatever, ill use the wonky thing til it freaks out on me again i suppose, or til i get the droid 2 in white
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Alright :\ thanks for the info, im due an upgrade so i guess i better start savin up for the droid 2. back to the Touch Pro for now :'( lol
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Put Android on your TP. The XDAndroid project is very nice for that.
Yeah I had it on my tp but its not very stable plus battery life sucks even more than the eris
Sent from my Eris using XDA App
I checked out a few other threads, on a couple forums and dont think anyone has been stupid enough to do this so far...
about 4 months ago, I was lost and my phone was dead, having bodged a car charger together I plugged it in.
The phone turned on, booted up and I got the SatNav software running, but before I could drive off it started flashing.. screen, lights, like a tiny disco....
Then it smoked, quite a lot for a second or two, by this time I'd took battery out and dis-connected the charger but it was too late, the phone was dead.
I got home, put the battery in a desktop charger til it was full and the phone has remained at it's current condition since.
So; it won't turn on, vibrate or flash any lights. The ONLY thing it does, is power up the right hand side bottom white light between the home key and back button.
I've been Ebaying since the day I killed it for a spares one, tried buying a main board but no joy anywhere without paying over £70 (and that's for a complete but knackered handset).
My dad's good with phones, his mate better also both of which said i've burnt out some chips. Some do kinda, have small 'holes' in, and I wiped a 2GB card too, wont work in anything else.
Without spending silly amounts on a new phone can I not do anything with this? Apparently everything except the main board should work (screen, digitizer etc)..
Help anyone please? -ta.
I suggest that you contact your local support team because I think this is something that needs to be examined at a repair center.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/corporate/common/contact/phonelist
I dropped my X10a, and cracked the screen/digitizer. Is it easier to replace the whole housing or just the digitizer? Any suggestions on which company supplies OEM parts at the best prices?
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I dropped my X10a, and cracked the screen/digitizer. Is it easier to replace the whole housing or just the digitizer? Any suggestions on which company supplies OEM parts at the best prices?
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I've found some an i will keep looking but here is some at the bottom of my post and if you know of some please do post them here and all update this. good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15712166#poststop
Hello everyone!
My sister accidentally detached the screen of my phone because she was taking it from me. After that, we take it to the repair center (a store only in a mall) and they said that the screen is unavailable for now. The repairman suggested to take out the battery from the phone until the screen is available to order. One day I tried to turn on the phone with its battery inserted to see if it still works without the screen, I thought of the phone was still working fine because it still vibrates when you powered it on and I immediately removed the battery after doing the testing. It almost took 2-3 weeks until the phone was repaired (the screen replacement has no warranty). Then we got home and played with my phone. Suddenly, the touch screen doesn't work, I have waited for a few second then it works again. It keeps happening like that and there are times that the screen completely doesn't respond to my touches until I reboot my phone. The apps that I were using that time are responding well only the touchscreen does not responds well.
I am using a custom ROM while my phone is being repaired.
So here's my question:
Will touchscreen problem exist or occur if you didn't turn it on or use it (powered off) for a few weeks?
The phone that I'm using is Xperia Mini Pro SK17I. I have also tried other custom ROMS like CM10 and CM10.1 but it just makes my touchscreen worse.
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Hey there.
What a coincidence, I just went through this kind of problem. Sorry to tell you this, but the screen assembly you bought is defective and there's little you can do about it, save for flashing back to stock and hoping for the best.
I ruined my xmp's screen and had to get a replacement part. I was in a rush so I bought a new display from the first store I came across with. Result: the touch digitizer was deffective, pretty much useless on CM10.1. It worked for a few minutes, but then it stopped responding until the next reboot. Touch response was sloppy, and two-finger gestures were all messed up.
Flashing back to stock ICS helped a bit, but it was far from ideal. I had to cope with it until it finally drove me crazy and I threw it to the ground. The glass shattered, many pieces flew off from the phone. Saved enough money for another screen and I'm just fine with it. No problems even after doing exactly what you described.
Word of advice: get a new screen assembly, and flash back to stock while you're at it.
Would you tell us how much the good assembly costs? Just for reference.
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I usually buy these from a local store for about $40. Check the display and touch digitizer quality before buying when possible. If you plan on buying one online, don't go for the cheapest alternative you can find, you could end up regretting it.
I'd recommend buying from "formymobile.co.uk"
Some people might not know this, but the display and touch glass on the xmp cannot be separated. This is good and bad at the same time.
Pixelado said:
Hey there.
What a coincidence, I just went through this kind of problem. Sorry to tell you this, but the screen assembly you bought is defective and there's little you can do about it, save for flashing back to stock and hoping for the best.
I ruined my xmp's screen and had to get a replacement part. I was in a rush so I bought a new display from the first store I came across with. Result: the touch digitizer was deffective, pretty much useless on CM10.1. It worked for a few minutes, but then it stopped responding until the next reboot. Touch response was sloppy, and two-finger gestures were all messed up.
Flashing back to stock ICS helped a bit, but it was far from ideal. I had to cope with it until it finally drove me crazy and I threw it to the ground. The glass shattered, many pieces flew off from the phone. Saved enough money for another screen and I'm just fine with it. No problems even after doing exactly what you described.
Word of advice: get a new screen assembly, and flash back to stock while you're at it.
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I am now dissappointed with myself because I didn't take my phone for repair to the store where I bought my phone. I have already brought my phone there before because of screen replacement too and they replace it with a good and functional one then that store move its location that was far away from us and that takes us to bring the phone in the nearest mall here in our place.
We found a store inside the mall, they fix it and TA-DAAAAA, a phone with a defective screen. And yes, the gestures are not working properly. I really love this phone but I can't take it anymore for another repair.
I am planning to buy a new phone but not a Sony Ericsson phone. I will buy a local branded phone [Cherry Mobile (Android phone) - search it on Google to see it] here in our country (Philippines). It is much cheaper but has a good quality. I am just a student so it will took me a long time to buy a new phone.
Unless my parents decides the buy me a phone because they also use my phone for playing.
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fundre said:
Would you tell us how much the good assembly costs? Just for reference.
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The 1st screen replacement that happened to my phone (it was the good one) costs me $77 (based on Philippine Peso to US Dollar)
While the 2nd replacement which is the bad one costs me $55
My country is Philippines.
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Hello everyone! Downgrading my phone to Stock Gingerbread does help but it still stops responding (not always) unlike in JB that stops every minute.
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