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Hello,
I'm using MIUI and the most annoying thing is that when the memory is low the apps kill by themselves. Is there a way we can stop doing that, or just prevent killing specified apps? I don't like waiting each time till the launcher loads
jakuburban said:
Hello,
I'm using MIUI and the most annoying thing is that when the memory is low the apps kill by themselves. Is there a way we can stop doing that, or just prevent killing specified apps? I don't like waiting each time till the launcher loads
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um.. that's how android is designed to work, if didn't you would run out of ram ( = BAD ) maybe try turning some useless background apps off. android will always kill background tasks before the foreground task tho.
you can tweak the memory if you want tho do a search for x10 memory optimization. i think there is a thread about sharing the best values.
Pvy
pvyParts said:
um.. that's how android is designed to work, if didn't you would run out of ram ( = BAD ) maybe try turning some useless background apps off. android will always kill background tasks before the foreground task tho.
you can tweak the memory if you want tho do a search for x10 memory optimization. i think there is a thread about sharing the best values.
Pvy
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Only MIUI does that. I'm killing the useless apps but it won't bring back 60mb of ram as it is after reboot. It will be only 30mb
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Hello again,
Having the phone with following specs:
Android Version: 4.0.4 (Stock)
Bootloader Status: Unlocked
Root Status: Rooted
Firmware: 4.1.B.431
Looking for:
1. The best Clock Work Mod
Same time have the fesibility to reset phone to factory mode
(Could it be done by flashing the generic firmware?)
2. RAM Availability
This has become a serious concern. I only have 70-80MB Ram available all time. When I hit the phone app, it takes 5 seconds to bring out the keypad....
Need advice on How to manage/install scripts.
Thanks again.
GxGaNi said:
1. The best Clock Work Mod
Same time have the fesibility to reset phone to factory mode
(Could it be done by flashing the generic firmware?)
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2 things.
1) ClockworkMod Recovery is mostly used to make full backups, format the system partitions and install custom ROMs.
2) Resetting phone to factory status can be done in Settings-Privacy or repair software via Update Service.
GxGaNi said:
2. RAM Availability
This has become a serious concern. I only have 70-80MB Ram available all time.
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Root your phone and remove unnecessary apps. Search on forum, there is a list about it. Also, search for V6 Supercharger.
And having 70-80 MB RAM isn't bad at all. It's quite enough for normal usage.
GxGaNi said:
When I hit the phone app, it takes 5 seconds to bring out the keypad....
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It is because of unoptimized app. Not related to RAM much.
Unused ram is wasted ram. U wont getting any problem like lags etc unless free ram is too low eg 10-20mb.
Again, unused ram is wasted ram
Your lags probably came from cpu governor/disk io scheduler. Flash custom kernel and experiment with other cpu governor/io scheduler
an0nym0us_ said:
Unused ram is wasted ram. U wont getting any problem like lags etc unless free ram is too low eg 10-20mb.
Again, unused ram is wasted ram
Your lags probably came from cpu governor/disk io scheduler. Flash custom kernel and experiment with other cpu governor/io scheduler
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what's the best i/o scheduler???
@GxGaNi
Here are some tweaks you might wanna try: http://goo.gl/1OuLC
but I would suggest you make a backup of all your stuff and make a clean new ROM flash with V6 installed....
and like someguyfromhell said, remove all bloatware.
Might try this program: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683399
sravan242 said:
what's the best i/o scheduler???
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Schedulers explained:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22134559&postcount=4
Someguyfromhell said:
2 things.
1) ClockworkMod Recovery is mostly used to make full backups, format the system partitions and install custom ROMs.
2) Resetting phone to factory status can be done in Settings-Privacy or repair software via Update Service.
Root your phone and remove unnecessary apps. Search on forum, there is a list about it. Also, search for V6 Supercharger.
And having 70-80 MB RAM isn't bad at all. It's quite enough for normal usage.
It is because of unoptimized app. Not related to RAM much.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Regarding some stuff.
CWM, which one do you suggest to install? Since I wanted to try out some roms and get to know Android well. And by meaning resetting to factory, I wanted to know, would it also remove CWM along with the reset?
I am a bit peculiar about the cwm, can you suggest me some?
Secondly, Optimizing App? It's the default Contact.apk, it literally gets my nerves. And the keys lag like about 10-50ms when I type. Any workaround?
PS: I removed lot of bloated apps already, so I wouldn't blame them.
an0nym0us_ said:
Unused ram is wasted ram. U wont getting any problem like lags etc unless free ram is too low eg 10-20mb.
Again, unused ram is wasted ram
Your lags probably came from cpu governor/disk io scheduler. Flash custom kernel and experiment with other cpu governor/io scheduler
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Understood. But isn't this a logic? If we initially had a lesser ram and start an app, wouldn't it lag? And, tbh, 80MB is now low, since some games like Temple Run hog the ram up.
android had its own way of managing apps/ram.
newly closed app were cached in ram to make it faster for relaunch, and sometime it launch automatically on event without we even notice it. thats why we got app like autostart to manage that behaviour.
and when ram goes low, android will clean those cached app from ram using minfree value as threshold, thus we got app like auto memory manager to adjust those minfree value.
either way u shoudn't be worry much about ram, and dont use taskiller to kill app/process.
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Your lags probably came from cpu governor/disk io scheduler. Flash custom kernel and experiment with other cpu governor/io scheduler
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I disagree about that.
The real difference with different I/O schedulers is quite small.
Thanks for the quick reply. Regarding some stuff.
CWM, which one do you suggest to install? Since I wanted to try out some roms and get to know Android well. And by meaning resetting to factory, I wanted to know, would it also remove CWM along with the reset?
I am a bit peculiar about the cwm, can you suggest me some?
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All Recovery's are the same, doesn't matter which one you install. Functionality is the same.
Secondly, Optimizing App? It's the default Contact.apk, it literally gets my nerves. And the keys lag like about 10-50ms when I type. Any workaround?
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If I am not mistaken, it is a bug with ICS. Someone correct me if I am wrong, I do not have my phone to test it.
Yep, key lag is an ICS thing. Even on some custom ROMs you still get keypress lag.
If you're going custom all the way (unlocked bootloader, custom kernel & ROM etc), for ICS you can check out expeacer's ExtendedStockKernel V2. It's got CWM 5.5 so there's no more of the 8 empty lines before option shmuck. Makes it a lot easier to use. Mesa kernel is also a good option and according to most, extends battery life by quite a bit..
Hope that helps
an0nym0us_ said:
android had its own way of managing apps/ram.
newly closed app were cached in ram to make it faster for relaunch, and sometime it launch automatically on event without we even notice it. thats why we got app like autostart to manage that behaviour.
and when ram goes low, android will clean those cached app from ram using minfree value as threshold, thus we got app like auto memory manager to adjust those minfree value.
either way u shoudn't be worry much about ram, and dont use taskiller to kill app/process.
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App for Auto Start, app for managing apps from self-kicking. And these apps pile up if you keep looking.
And by cache, I guess you're talking about Dalvik-Cache? I saw an option in "Developer Options", Don't keep activities. I wish it had "White-List" and black list, you seriously wouldn't need those countless apps.
btw, I do not any task killer, since most of them have the same algorithm and do the same ****(no offense), but I use SwitchPro Widget, since sony doesn't come up with default switches like Samsung does. It's native app killing switch is pretty flawless.
Does anyone also notice the slow loading widgets (Widget cannot load error) at the startup. I Use go launcher native theme.
@Someguy
Thanks again.
Someguyfromhell said:
I disagree about that.
The real difference with different I/O schedulers is quite small.
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Its noticeable on stock kernel. Noop gave faster picture loading in gallery, music loading in music app and media scanning upon unplugging usb and after reboot than default deadline.
But on custom kernel those added io scheduler probably patched already to suites flash memory better, thus faster on readahead, well atleast on my kernel i've patched them.
neocyke said:
Yep, key lag is an ICS thing. Even on some custom ROMs you still get keypress lag.
If you're going custom all the way (unlocked bootloader, custom kernel & ROM etc), for ICS you can check out expeacer's ExtendedStockKernel V2. It's got CWM 5.5 so there's no more of the 8 empty lines before option shmuck. Makes it a lot easier to use. Mesa kernel is also a good option and according to most, extends battery life by quite a bit..
Hope that helps
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I'll keep this in my mind.
So i like the default android sistem more than the stock rom of sxs.
So i ve installed fxp 130 and yesterday fxp 131, and some bugs are also on the new update
Some bugs:
- when i download a file with the hdmi the file appears to be broken but when i restart my phone the file work and i don t recive no error
-all sms that have more than 160 chars will give u and error so you are limited to only 160 chars per sms and after u have to make another sms
- if u like to write a sms like you do it in a chat( like more sms in 10 seconds) u ll be surpised because u ll recive an error something like "the message was not sent", so the only thing that u have to make to evoid this error is to wait that the last sms was sent and after you could send another sms
- if u write a sms that has more than 160 chars the person that u ve send the message will recive only a part from the message
- if u close and open the screen i think because the animation the screen in will freeze but only when u are in the menu with apps or in an app..i recoomend u to disable the animation( when u wake the screen) or juzt wait and maybe the screen will be ok in some minutes
- for example if u are in a app and u close the screen and open..u ll have above the app a pic with the lockscreen...just close the screen and open it again to be ok..maybe the phone in this stage will freeze again like i ve said above
- dont know if this an error that all custom roms have but for example when i try to send a message using whatsapp the messsage will be send in 10- 30 mins
- also the screen is not that bright like before( i think it s because.we don t have bravia engine)
- i think that my phone is kinda slower now.when i copy new files on it using usb, the average speed is kinda 900kbs- 1 mbps and for 1 gb i have to wait kinda 1 hour and it s kinda to much of course!
- the batter is not that good but i recoomand u to close the data at night( u also have a profile for.that)
- sometimes the game freezes or ar working like they have low fps
- when u open the camera u have to refocus with it because if u let the camera to autofocus for the first time the pic will be blurry( u just have to tap the screen to refocus)
Good things:
- it s fast
- fast camera( the autofocus it s alot faster.than the stock app)
- it s simple to use
- very good music player and rich with features
- u can customize it very easy
- 300 mb-400 b free of ram( this.is amount that i have in generaly)
- doesn t have useless apps
-good looking
- battery procentage
- torch
- notification led now works
- all basic stuff works .
I ve made this topic because is easy to look here than to read 30 pages tto search the bugs and the working things. Also sorry if if has mistakes but i ve writen it on my phone and.that s why, hope u understand it and if i discover another bug i' ll update the topic..
Hope it wil be usefull. Good luck and enjoy your roms and.always feedback the developers.
When you download a file with HDMI, What ?
Don't know about the text message bug yet as I haven't sent any messages over 160 chars
I don't get any screen freeze
I don't have any problems with Whatsapp
I haven't noticed any difference in screen brightness, Bravia engine only applies to pics and videos
USB transfer seems about the same as before to me, Phone itself definitely not slower
My battery is now way better than it was on stock
I don't play games on my phone so don't know about that one
My camera focus is fine,
Only things I've noticed so far is the HDMI not working, No Bravia engine, no Xloud, No camera Quicklaunch thing and no way to turn camer shutter sound off, Otherwise this ROM is awesome
cracksquirrel said:
When you download a file with HDMI, What ?
Don't know about the text message bug yet as I haven't sent any messages over 160 chars
I don't get any screen freeze
I don't have any problems with Whatsapp
I haven't noticed any difference in screen brightness, Bravia engine only applies to pics and videos
USB transfer seems about the same as before to me, Phone itself definitely not slower
My battery is now way better than it was on stock
I don't play games on my phone so don't know about that one
My camera focus is fine,
Only things I've noticed so far is the HDMI not working, No Bravia engine, no Xloud, No camera Quicklaunch thing and no way to turn camer shutter sound off, Otherwise this ROM is awesome
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Just try to open and close the display more.times than usual and the screen will freeze..not the launcher..it wil freeze in menu( with apps) or when ur in app.
It think that the problem.is that the screen doezn t redraw.
I dont know what to say about hdmi becauss i don t use one..but i ve seen alot of people.that have this problem
Also the whatsapp problem others does have it
If ur a "hard-user" u'll notice this kind of errors
nemer12 said:
Just try to open and close the display more.times than usual and the screen will freeze..not the launcher..it wil freeze in menu( with apps) or when ur in app.
It think that the problem.is that the screen doezn t redraw.
I dont know what to say about hdmi becauss i don t use one..but i ve seen alot of people.that have this problem
Also the whatsapp problem others does have it
If ur a "hard-user" u'll notice this kind of errors
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Locked unlocked about 20 times in quick succession, same with an app, opened and closed about 20 times and still no freezing, Although I have seen the redraw bug mentioned quite a few times, I just cant recreate it.
I don't use the HDMI either so no biggy for me aswell really.
Still no problems with whatsapp aswell, the only times messages I have sent have taken a while to go through is when the receiving person hasn't had a data connection, But as soon as they get one the message comes through for them. I remember a couple of years ago whatsapp would quite often take ages to send messages but I haven't noticed it for ages.
hmm..maybe ur a lucky one..but this redraw problem has affected alot of people(mayne not all).
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and regarded to whatsapp...don't know why..mine doesn't work very good , it works but not always.
hope they will fix the REDRAWIng bug in the next release..because I hate to restart my phone sometimes once in a 10 mins.
For the so called redraw bug, try modifying the build.prop file inserting at the end the following line:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
This will give the launcher the highest priority and the system will not close it when some ram is needed. This worked great on my miui!
guildamx said:
For the so called redraw bug, try modifying the build.prop file inserting at the end the following line:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
This will give the launcher the highest priority and the system will not close it when some ram is needed. This worked great on my miui!
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so I mean, like my app freezes and my menu with apps also...and to make them work again I have to restart the phone! So you say if I modify the build.prop.. it should work??
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also what's ur transfer speed with USB to the PC (and what do you use : USB MASS STORAGE, Media Device?)
nemer12 said:
so I mean, like my app freezes and my menu with apps also...and to make them work again I have to restart the phone! So you say if I modify the build.prop.. it should work??
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also what's ur transfer speed with USB to the PC (and what do you use : USB MASS STORAGE, Media Device?)
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It should help for sure.
Regarding the transfer speed, currently I am on holiday and just can't tell, since I do not have the pc here...
guildamx said:
It should help for sure.
Regarding the transfer speed, currently I am on holiday and just can't tell, since I do not have the pc here...
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with whqt explorer should I edit the file..astro it's ok ?? sorry for the n00b question. ?? Or i should install a Root Explorer?
nemer12 said:
with whqt explorer should I edit the file..astro it's ok ?? sorry for the n00b question. ?? Or i should install a Root Explorer?
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Root Explorer is maybe the best app. ES File Explorer is also good and can edit files in the system directory. Of course you need root permissions.
cracksquirrel said:
When you download a file with HDMI, What ?
Don't know about the text message bug yet as I haven't sent any messages over 160 chars
I don't get any screen freeze
I don't have any problems with Whatsapp
I haven't noticed any difference in screen brightness, Bravia engine only applies to pics and videos
USB transfer seems about the same as before to me, Phone itself definitely not slower
My battery is now way better than it was on stock
I don't play games on my phone so don't know about that one
My camera focus is fine,
Only things I've noticed so far is the HDMI not working, No Bravia engine, no Xloud, No camera Quicklaunch thing and no way to turn camer shutter sound off, Otherwise this ROM is awesome
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what? what are you talking about? the battery is the main problem that I faced! I could only use 12hours with 3G on with stock it goes to 18hours to be honest!
guildamx said:
Root Explorer is maybe the best app. ES File Explorer is also good and can edit files in the system directory. Of course you need root permissions.
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Ive add to the end of file what you said..hope it resolves the problem..If yes or not I'll tell you, I've edited with astro file manager because with ES FE I could not find the system folder.
chesterr said:
what? what are you talking about? the battery is the main problem that I faced! I could only use 12hours with 3G on with stock it goes to 18hours to be honest!
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For me battery life is the same with stock. After flashed successfully, i had wiped battery stats in advanced option
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lilude56214 said:
For me battery life is the same with stock. After flashed successfully, i had wiped battery stats in advanced option
Sent from my Xperia S using Tapatalk 2
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Oh yea I didn't do that, should try that out too!
chesterr said:
Oh yea I didn't do that, should try that out too!
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I think that BAttery Calibration should do that to.. I 'll try it when I ll go home . (the app) because it erase it all the data related to the battery and makes a new one.
nemer12 said:
Just try to open and close the display more.times than usual and the screen will freeze..not the launcher..it wil freeze in menu( with apps) or when ur in app.
It think that the problem.is that the screen doezn t redraw.
I dont know what to say about hdmi becauss i don t use one..but i ve seen alot of people.that have this problem
Also the whatsapp problem others does have it
If ur a "hard-user" u'll notice this kind of errors
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It was with me same. I have a solution. I have in the Settings>Display "Screen off animation" closed. And right now, screen is no longer frozen.:victory:
eScapeeXc said:
It was with me same. I have a solution. I have in the Settings>Display "Screen off animation" closed. And right now, screen is no longer frozen.:victory:
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thx, I've unchecked that box, hope that the screen will not freeze again.
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The cause was the " tv close like animation ", it's strange, a " simple " animation like that to freeze all apps in ur phone. Hope that fxp u'll fix in next release.
nemer12 said:
thx, I've unchecked that box, hope that the screen will not freeze again.
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The cause was the " tv close like animation ", it's strange, a " simple " animation like that to freeze all apps in ur phone. Hope that fxp u'll fix in next release.
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don't forget to give me a feedback
Does it have a working bravia engine?
krushhh said:
Does it have a working bravia engine?
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Nope, not yet
Anybody plays this game? I want links for a working version. I downloaded some versions but they all force close after the loading screen. I have the LwW btw..
Boss.bhavesh2 said:
Anybody plays this game? I want links for a working version. I downloaded some versions but they all force close after the loading screen. I have the LwW btw..
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if they force close it means you have no ram.
Try using some memory tweaks.
Reduce with system tuner free the foreground memory min free to 0.
Go at sys.crtl (or something like that) and do everything that can give you some ram. (DONT MAKE THE CHANGES PERMANENT)
And with some luck it will play.
I think I have a proplem with ram as there is alot of ram used without any use
im nw using the GNA7 neat rom by sale , and even on 4.1.2 stock the ram was like that
Ihere is a picture of ram after pressing clear ram and all the apps was closed
600+ ram is used and im left with a 200 mb .. is that normal
Just saying,
Its " problem ".
darknesslord606 said:
I think I have a proplem with ram as there is alot of ram used without any use
im nw using the GNA7 neat rom by sale , and even on 4.1.2 stock the ram was like that
Ihere is a picture of ram after pressing clear ram and all the apps was closed
600+ ram is used and im left with a 200 mb .. is that normal
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Just my opinion, but there's nothing wrong with high RAM usage in Android. Stock roms (esp sammy) are notorious for bloat so they may use a lot of ram. As long as it doesn;t affect your system performance, you can leave it alone.
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RazorMC said:
Just my opinion, but there's nothing wrong with high RAM usage in Android. Stock roms (esp sammy) are notorious for bloat so they may use a lot of ram. As long as it doesn;t affect your system performance, you can leave it alone.
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it does affect my system preformace , belive me , facbook messenger takes about 45 seconds to open a chat head
and when I try to click the app drawer icon I enjoy a scene of my background as the device is stuck and hanged and no icons are shown
when I recive a call when im using the device , the phone hangs and nothing moves for like 30 seconds and it realises that there is a call and starts ringing and shows the incoming call screen
this ram thing is killing me please help
why isnt there a master piece rom , with no bugs
cm = after call bug and sucks all the battery
sammy based roms = ram eaters (including neatrom)
miui = lags alot and in chinese and they are still using JB 4.1.2
AND more and more and more
its right that android is great in modabilty and customization but all of that are just words
we cant enjoy anything as long as its buggy
darknesslord606 said:
it does affect my system preformace , belive me , facbook messenger takes about 45 seconds to open a chat head
and when I try to click the app drawer icon I enjoy a scene of my background as the device is stuck and hanged and no icons are shown
when I recive a call when im using the device , the phone hangs and nothing moves for like 30 seconds and it realises that there is a call and starts ringing and shows the incoming call screen
this ram thing is killing me please help
why isnt there a master piece rom , with no bugs
cm = after call bug and sucks all the battery
sammy based roms = ram eaters (including neatrom)
miui = lags alot and in chinese and they are still using JB 4.1.2
AND more and more and more
its right that android is great in modabilty and customization but all of that are just words
we cant enjoy anything as long as its buggy
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First of all root ur device if it is not rooted.
Than Install a stable rom by ur choice.
After installing make sure to Wipe cache and deviled cache / Factory reset (from recovery )