I just turned my phone on for the first time. I am planning to root it as soon as I complete all my tests to see that there is no malfunction that needs the use of waranty so root will take place in 3-5 days.
In the meantime I see that I have Android 4.0.4, build IMM76D.I9300XXALE8 but there is an OTA update available. I'm wondering, if I install the update, will the rooting process be harder, i.e. will I need downgrade or is the rooting irrelevant to build number (At least with the Desire HD, you had to have specific build either you need to downgrade)
If you are using cf root, and I advise it, then all will be good.here's a link to it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
[03.07.2012] CF-Root 6.4 - SuperSU+CWM5.5+CWMManager
andreasy said:
I just turned my phone on for the first time. I am planning to root it as soon as I complete all my tests to see that there is no malfunction that needs the use of waranty so root will take place in 3-5 days.
In the meantime I see that I have Android 4.0.4, build IMM76D.I9300XXALE8 but there is an OTA update available. I'm wondering, if I install the update, will the rooting process be harder, i.e. will I need downgrade or is the rooting irrelevant to build number (At least with the Desire HD, you had to have specific build either you need to downgrade)
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You may loose your root if you get a OTA update but rooting again isn't hard.
you might not get any OTA update's if you are using CWM recovery... not sure about it.. somebody correct me if i'm wrong.
slaphead20 said:
If you are using cf root, and I advise it, then all will be good.here's a link to it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
[03.07.2012] CF-Root 6.4 - SuperSU+CWM5.5+CWMManager
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Thanks. I'll install the update now.
BTW, since you mention it, what's the main difference between the CF-Root 6.4 method that you advice and the TOOLKIT V4.0? I mean what makes CF-Root 6.4 better?
andreasy said:
Thanks. I'll install the update now.
BTW, since you mention it, what's the main difference between the CF-Root 6.4 method that you advice and the TOOLKIT V4.0? I mean what makes CF-Root 6.4 better?
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my, and other people's, observations on rooted problems, and 2 years of using chainfires' roots and products. I have seen a few problems lately relating to the tool kit, and simplicity. Takes about 2 minutes to do the cf, including download time!
CF Root is the old method that just works . The toolkit is more than CF Root .
Simplest for a new user to root with CF root as it takes seconds .
jje
JJEgan said:
CF Root is the old method that just works . The toolkit is more than CF Root .
Simplest for a new user to root with CF root as it takes seconds .
jje
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Are they equally safe? and will the toolkit also work even if I installed latest OTA update or will it need downgrade first?
Never had the need to use toolkit as its new .
OTA may not work on root .
OTA that does work will require reroot.
jje
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Hi. I'm rooting now. I think. The dealbreaker is, will I be able to get the latest offical firmware updates even on a rooted device?
Thanks a lot in advance.
That interest me to
Rural said:
Hi. I'm rooting now. I think. The dealbreaker is, will I be able to get the latest offical firmware updates even on a rooted device?
Thanks a lot in advance.
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Yes. You can always flash the official firmwares. However, you'll need to root it again when you do.
IF u have updated firmware KE2 can u root like normal still? or do u have to downgrade first?
if you are wanting to upgrade officially, just do it through Kies. you will loose your root, but you can re-root and it will keep the latest firmware upgrade [like KE2]
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KE2 root then upgrade kernel to KE2 after root .
If you have an update through Kies or the original phone firmware then Kies is your update path .
If you have flashed firmware via Odin then you will usually find that codes no longer match and Kies has no firmware for the codes on the phone .
jje
So u can put whatewer firmware u want in ur phone ? How i can see my firmware version , in seting about it say xxkd9 ^^ i dont know whats that and how i can buck it up leater :/ When i conect to kies it say this device canot be updated
OK! Thanks all for your replies!
So, now as I am on a rooted device, when I plug my phone to the computer and it finds an official firmware via Kies, I can safely install it without manually taking the root away? This is done by automatic? That's how I understand. It's not like my phone is angry and punished me by bricking?
Thanks again.
Seems pretty difficult to brick the SGS2. I bought a little jig off ebay for £4 which automatically puts the device into download mode - useful even if the three-button method doesn't work. Also resets the custom binary count
What happens to my root exclusive apps if a firmware update deletes the root access?
Flashed KE7....
...my first post.
So I flashed KE7 (newest firmware), ...I originally had Root on the KE2, as per the instructions in the ROM & Developers Section for the SGS2........after flashing KE7 I still have root, AND KE7, with no yellow triangle.
I am not complaing just pleasantly surprised I did not have to Re-Root....anyone else had this.
Since I cannot post in the Development section yet I thought I would comment here.
Also would like to say what a fantastic job the guys developing are doing on these sites, you provide alot of geeks and non-geeks with many happy evenings.
schrickm5 said:
...my first post.
So I flashed KE7 (newest firmware), ...I originally had Root on the KE2, as per the instructions in the ROM & Developers Section for the SGS2........after flashing KE7 I still have root, AND KE7, with no yellow triangle.
I am not complaing just pleasantly surprised I did not have to Re-Root....anyone else had this.
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I just ordered mine and started reading more about Android. So may i ask what is KE2 and KE7? The SGII hasnt been out for more then a month or two i think so is there already several updates?
If so what do they add? very curious
KE2 and 7 are just firmware updates from Samsung, am not sure if they are generic or related to specific markets. KE7 works for me, I still have root and now I have the extra 4mb (833 to 837 mb)....so something worked.
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Next question.
If I install the new coming firmwares via Odin, then it will NOT take my root away?
Rural said:
Next question.
If I install the new coming firmwares via Odin, then it will NOT take my root away?
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Yes reroot .
jje
schrickm5 said:
KE2 and 7 are just firmware updates from Samsung, am not sure if they are generic or related to specific markets. KE7 works for me, I still have root and now I have the extra 4mb (833 to 837 mb)....so something worked.
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Not sure if yours came with KE7 but if you upgraded did you loose all your data/settings? Comming from iPhone i'm used to loose them all when flashing but then i can simply connect to iTunes and restore everything just the way it was (game saves, all phone settings, appz&games, contact etc).
How is this achieved in Android enviroment (SGII) when you flash a new firmware?
(contact, calendar, bookmars i know will be synced back through google but i'm more intressted in my save data, appz and settings).I read Titanum backup does this but not sure if you can transfer from one firmware to another?
sorry for many questions but Android is a new world for me.
Kies firmware does not wipe data etc .
Odin update does not wipe data but depends upon the update .
Rule one RTFM
Rule two RTFM
Rule three Backup your EFS folder
Rule four have a copy of original firmware if possible
Rule five have a backup
Rule six read the FAQS on the post thats flashing current firmware custom rom or whatever .
jje
I'm currently on a generic KE7 XEU firmware. If I root will I loose any of my settings, applications, etc, etc?
Thanks.
NOT if you follow the instructions .
jje
Do you mean these instructions? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
simacca said:
Do you mean these instructions? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
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No i think he means this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
CF Root is much better to use. You will get the possibility to NANDROID for your
stock ROM. (Back it up etc.)
Just follow those instructions (the long version for you i guess). And you won't loose any thin. You can also first make a backup with My Backup Pro app. just in case ...
DaFileFather said:
No i think he means this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
CF Root is much better to use. You will get the possibility to NANDROID for your
stock ROM. (Back it up etc.)
Just follow those instructions (the long version for you i guess). And you won't loose any thin. You can also first make a backup with My Backup Pro app. just in case ...
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Thanks, I will have a read and give it a go. Am a total beginner to rooting. I am quite techie though
I did have the o2 firmware and managed to flash stock using odin with no probs, but I suppose that is a lot easier than rooting.
The main reason I want to root is to underclock my processor to try and save some battery life. I heard someone underclocked to 800mhz with no loss of smoothness.
Edit : Just reading some of the replies and a few people have been having problems. Will I be able to update using Kies after this method?
simacca said:
Thanks, I will have a read and give it a go. Am a total beginner to rooting. I am quite techie though
I did have the o2 firmware and managed to flash stock using odin with no probs, but I suppose that is a lot easier than rooting.
The main reason I want to root is to underclock my processor to try and save some battery life. I heard someone underclocked to 800mhz with no loss of smoothness.
Edit : Just reading some of the replies and a few people have been having problems. Will I be able to update using Kies after this method?
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Yes you can always go back to stock Rom if something is wrong or so (via Odin is better than KIES!) And also make sure when you flash not to turn KIES on! CLOSE it.
There is an update to CF Root now.. v3.6 get that one
Not sure if everyone has seen this but it appears there is a new method to root our devices without requiring us to flash. New exploit has already been incorporated into SuperOneClick. I haven't tried yet but will be soon. Anyone else see / use this and can verify?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
I haven't used the SuperOneClick method, but I used this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
which seems to be based off the same ZergRush method & it worked perfectly.
Vpr2006 said:
I haven't used the SuperOneClick method, but I used this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
which seems to be based off the same ZergRush method & it worked perfectly.
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Correct. The developer of SuperOneClick simply incorporated the ZergRush method.
I just bit the bullet and successfully rooted by SG2 this morning with SuperOneClick. Thus this is a quick and easy method to root instead of flashing. No knock against any of the developers here as they all should be commended for identifying how to root our SG2s months ago. For me I am not ready to flash my SG2 as I just got it and really want to play with it a while stock to learn the ins and outs and then identify the best rom that I think has the features that I feel are lacking.
However again, this is now a quick and easy method for all with just one button click to gain root.
Rooting
cbb77 said:
Correct. The developer of SuperOneClick simply incorporated the ZergRush method.
I just bit the bullet and successfully rooted by SG2 this morning with SuperOneClick. Thus this is a quick and easy method to root instead of flashing. No knock against any of the developers here as they all should be commended for identifying how to root our SG2s months ago. For me I am not ready to flash my SG2 as I just got it and really want to play with it a while stock to learn the ins and outs and then identify the best rom that I think has the features that I feel are lacking.
However again, this is now a quick and easy method for all with just one button click to gain root.
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I really see no point in rooting at all unless you want to use stock firmware.
All custom roms are pre-rooted so if you are going to flash a custom
rom there really is no need to root the phone in the first place.
Once you have the CWM Recovery Kernel flashed, simply flash the
custom rom of your choice (zipfile) and you will have instant root.
Misterjunky said:
I really see no point in rooting at all unless you want to use stock firmware.
All custom roms are pre-rooted so if you are going to flash a custom
rom there really is no need to root the phone in the first place.
Once you have the CWM Recovery Kernel flashed, simply flash the
custom rom of your choice (zipfile) and you will have instant root.
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Root enables many Root apps such as TiBu and allows making system changes. Not everyone want a custom rom.
Hello everyone,
I read a lot of threads but I didn't find any tutorial in here that explains how to root the S2 without increasing the flash counter.. Well I found one but it was concerning the AT&T version. I guess if you can do it on the AT&T version there must be a way to do on the international version but I didn't find anything...
I don't wanna take any risks with the warranty and I heard the usb thingy doesn't work on the latest firmwares.
So is there any way at the moment to root the international S2 without changing the flash counter ?
Thanks a lot !
You can always just downgrade the bootloader and the USB Jig will work.
I updated to the latest fw with new bootloader, i then flashed the old bootloader back onto phone and then reset counter with usb jig. The old bootloader can be found on the site, just can't remember where at the minute
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You could root with zergrush for a basic root. Then if you want custom kernels without starting the counter you could install the first one by using dd to install a zImage that includes CWM. After that only upgrade from CWM and you will never start the counter.
Hey thanks for your replies.
I read so many threads and never heard about zergrush. I think a lot of people just want the easiest way to root their phone without voiding the warranty period. No custom roms, no clockworkmod thingy and so on. I really wonder why complicated methods are sticked when an easy and probably safer one exists. So here is the method :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
I still have a question left, why do we have to install su and busy box ?
Thanks.
Thomas1 said:
Hey thanks for your replies.
I read so many threads and never heard about zergrush. I think a lot of people just want the easiest way to root their phone without voiding the warranty period. No custom roms, no clockworkmod thingy and so on. I really wonder why complicated methods are sticked when an easy and probably safer one exists. So here is the method :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
I still have a question left, why do we have to install su and busy box ?
Thanks.
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You should probably read this: http://www.androidcentral.com/rooting-it-me-some-qa
ctomgee said:
You should probably read this: ]
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Thanks ! I knew what rooting meant but I thought all you needed to do is to be able to change a specific setting in the deep body of android .
I guess busybox is needed for su to work right ?
Thomas1 said:
Thanks ! I knew what rooting meant but I thought all you needed to do is to be able to change a specific setting in the deep body of android .
I guess busybox is needed for su to work right ?
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No, other way around. Busybox will need root. But busybox is VERY useful; if you are a linux user, it provides many higher level linux commands not otherwise available in android.
Whats the newsest stable root for S3?
I have UK voda S3 with CF root 6.4
i got an OTA message today about an update
(i am guessing that this update solves the 'exploit where your phone can be wiped' i saw on the BBC news)
Question 1
do i need to do the FW update
Question 2
'CF root' is 'Auto root' or something now. i couldnt work it out - is this the correct way to root.
Question 3
(does anyone have the link to the newest version of the UK S3 root)
Question 4
What else in in the OTA update?
Cheers
Uuuh, since when has root been unstable? LOL!
Theshawty said:
Uuuh, since when has root been unstable? LOL!
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Hi do you know the answers to any of the the other questions?
Let's see here. First you're asking about root, then fw's.
Question 1
do i need to do the FW update
No you don't need to, but you will be bugged to death if you don't upgrade.
Question 2
'CF root' is 'Auto root' or something now. i couldnt work it out - is this the correct way to root.
Yes, cf root is now called cf auto root. Retains stock recovery but is flashed just like "normal" cf root. In the PDA section in pc odin or flashed through mobile odin.
Question 3
(does anyone have the link to the newest version of the UK S3 root)
There's no phone-specific or country-specific root. Cf auto root can be used for all i9300 phones, whether they're from Egypt or Holland.
Question 4
What else in in the OTA update?
How should we know?
You won't be able to install the OTA as long as you're rooted
Install Omega v40 and be done with OTA and Kies etc
Debloated and awesome, that's the Omega way. Ultima's nice too.
Glebun said:
You won't be able to install the OTA as long as you're rooted
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Cheers bud I am using KIES for the update (i did this before).
The OTA message was there to remind me there is an update, but i read before that it gripes about rooted phones.
I never ever seem to get any sensible answers if i post on XDA... so i hit the thanks button when I read yours. :good:
I still no nearer knowing what's in the new update lol
I think this is the right link to CF auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273
galaxy44 said:
Whats the newsest stable root for S3?
Question 2
'CF root' is 'Auto root' or something now. i couldnt work it out - is this the correct way to root.
Cheers
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Chainfire Root works. Flashing it is an easy way to root... though there probably are easier methods.
Chainfire no longer supports this version, but it's still working just fine. Plus it installs CWM recovery, as opposed to stock recovery.
CF-Root for SGS3 v6.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27049380&postcount=3