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Hi All,
I know, there are many threads about KF vs NT, sorry for another one, I just haven't found my answer yet about following.
I'm visiting US and plan to buy a souvenir - either Kindle Fire or Nook Tablet. I lean towards NT slightly - because of the SD slot and RAM. I'm worried about locked bootloader however.
I would like to use the tablet for video playback, surfing the web, playing some games.
I'd like to have there ICS/CM9 one day. And that's the question. We have seen big progress in NT hacking recently, but it's definitely behind the state of KF development (of course thanks to B&N obstacles).
Is it only a matter of time and effort till NT gets working ICS (capable of reasonably smooth performance including video playback, etc.), or is it still a mystery, whether we ever get there? How big is the risk of ending with devs giving up due to some B&N obstacle?
Thanks for your opinions/knowledge, I'm scratching my head for 1,5 months already
Aleq
Based on what we're seeing with CM7 I don't see any impossible hurdles for CM9. It's just a lot more work and a much less mature project. I'd say NT is a no brainer over KF.
Cool, Nook Tablet with only 8GB of storage was introduces for $50 less, $199 total. It keeps the SD slot so I'd say that's a great deal.
I just hope no new bootloader (with new hacking countermeasures) comes with it or it gets cracked soon.
UPDATE: Too bad, the RAM has been cut from 1GB to 512MB :-(
I am a amazon prime member/amazon fanboy try to buy everything there and was really excited in the summer when I heard amazon was making their own line of tablets.
Then it was finally announced and I was like wtf seriously... 8gb or storage and no sd card slot plus the dreaded power button and no volume control buttons. I was massively disappointed and planned to wait till they updated the kindle but since the NT was on sale for 200 I bought it and couldn't be happier for my needs. Before I was using a coby tablet with lower res screen and no development since no firmware is public.
KF seems useless until updated with sd card/moved power button
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Hi All,
I'd like to have there ICS/CM9 one day. And that's the question. We have seen big progress in NT hacking recently, but it's definitely behind the state of KF development (of course thanks to B&N obstacles).
Aleq
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I am really interesting in this problem too, NT hardware is much better but software development it’s far behind than KF.
What B&N obstacles are you taking about?
Judging by the youtube videos I have seen, CM9 is coming along nicely. I think once a 3.0+ working kernel is working, it will only be a matter of time.
The obstacles with the NT are B&N's bootloader being locked down and continuously changing. That keeps holding up development as new fixes are constantly being needed to progress further. Now, it seems, with the introduction of the 8GB version, it seems to be stalling a bit again while current progress is ported over to that build as well. I may be wrong on that, but that's the way it seems to me.
So I bought Nook Tablet and I'm loving it. Best souvenir from vacation ever
Running so far only rooted stock 1.4.2 + Android Market. Looking at CM7, looking forward to CM9.
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What B&N obstacles are you taking about?
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Locked bootloader, new firmwares removing root and preventing old rooting methods.
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The only thing I disliked about my Nook is the fact that the B&N store is useless outside the States.
So using CM7 is pretty much obligatory for me.
That's true, but partly the same applies to Amazon Store - foreigners are not allowed to make purchases there.
Hacking - root + Market (Play, eh.) or CM7 / CM9 (it's coming!) was always the main reason for me to get one. I wouldn't be buying either of two, if it would be locked to stock forever
I'm looking to get my first Android tablet. I've always rooted and run custom firmware on my Android phones, so I need a "cheap" Android tablet with a healthy developer community and a lot of support.
My first thought was to go for the $250 Nook Tablet, spec for spec it's better than the Kindle Fire; but didn't an update come out for it recently that made rooting it near impossible or so highly difficult that it hasn't been done yet?
Then the $200 Kindle Fire came to mind, very popular tablet must mean a very healthy/active hacking/dev community right? But isn't it also locked down in such a way it can't be rooted or modified anymore? I need a working Android Market (Oh I'm sorry, I mean <sarcasm>Play Store</sarcasm>) and good custom ROM's including ICS.
Then I see a $189 Lenovo A1 Tablet at Best Buy with decent specs. It's running Android 2.3 which I'd normally prefer over Android 3.0/Honeycomb but now that ICS/Android 4.0 is out, I'd definately want to run that on my tablet.
So is ICS running very good/stable on any sub $300 Android tablet? I wonder when the $250 Tegra3 based tablet from Asus (or is it Acer...) comes out. Suggestions on which route to go?
You should really do some reading/research because almost all of your perceptions are way off.
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Yeah, I plan on researching it to no end. That's what I tend to do, read through the various forums, FAQ's, etc. I don't purchase blindly (even for a 'budget' tablet), but before I did I wanted to drop these questions out there to see if somebody who's a lot more familiar with these devices has an opinion or if somebody who's already done a lot of research could pipe in. I wanted to use a combo of my own research and direct recommendations/observations from people more familiar with this Android tablets than I. I'm more into the Android Phone hacking community, I've rooted many various Android models and have run a lot of custom firmwares on various models. I'm sure I'll adapt quickly enough to the tablet scene but while I'm getting my feet wet I was hoping to hear from more experienced people.
Basic research leads me to believe the Nook Tablet has superior hardware but not as active a dev community as the others. It's a shame cause the hardware is nice. The only real ICS ROM for the Nook Tablet is Alpha status with a lot of known bugs, no where near daily driver ready. But CM7 seems to be a popular ROM for this tablet and it seems to be stable enough for Daily Driver status. I'm leaning more toward the Kindle Fire as they have ICS with only 3 real main known issues (HW Acceleration, 720p Video and Bluetooth). But I'm also seeing that they have CM9 running on the HP Touchpad (which has the best HW out of all these devices) but they have several more known issues. I like that the HP Touchpad can dual boot webos and Android though, always wanted to play with WebOS and the superior HW is nice (I mean it was a $500 tablet in its hay-day). Still researching.
The main problem is. initially the nook tablet was-and still is- locked down tighter than a virgin princess with a chastity belt, thus we only had a few devs working on it as most abandoned the tablet and moved to the fire/other tablets/phones, but we had adam and indirect and a few others tinker and twist and mangle and mutilate the tablet until we are where we are.
cm9 is behind the cm7 team only because they decided to do the 3.0 kernel? vs the 2.6.7(or something like that), and the 3.0 kernal has been giving them...issues that they are resolving one by one.
the cm7 team, conversely, has had an easier time since they ported the nook color's cm7, tweaked of course, and are fixing things that are/were not working correctly.
HW accellaration/720p accell is working on cm7,
bluetooth and multitouch(more tha 2 at a time) are on the list of things to get done BUT, B&N did not include the "key" to activate the bluetooth(and fm radio) part of the chip so that is WAY down on the list of things to do.
if the nook tablet was "exactly" like the kindle fire for bootup/hackability, then it would be way ahead of the kindle fire at this time, but due to the initial problems the devs had getting root/breaking the bootchain to install alternate OS's....they are behind.
hardware wise the NT is better than the kindle fire,
personally my next tablet will -most likely- be the new asus that is coming out in a few months (tegra quad core) that is going to be 250.
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Basic research leads me to believe the Nook Tablet has superior hardware but not as active a dev community as the others.
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Yes to the first part, no to the second part. You're mistaking size with activity. The Nook tablet community is one of the most active communities I've encountered among ~12 devices that I've followed. Its small and tight knit but people are working constantly. Pop into the IRC channel or read some of the threads and you'll see that.
It's a shame cause the hardware is nice. The only real ICS ROM for the Nook Tablet is Alpha status with a lot of known bugs, no where near daily driver ready.
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True. But again, dedicated developers working hard on it.
But CM7 seems to be a popular ROM for this tablet and it seems to be stable enough for Daily Driver status.
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Yep. I have a Xoom with ICS and I'm anxious for CM9, but CM7 is more than adequate for what I use the NT for.
I'm leaning more toward the Kindle Fire as they have ICS with only 3 real main known issues (HW Acceleration, 720p Video and Bluetooth).
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Meh. The fire is simply a sub par device. The lack of an sd slot is a deal breaker for me as well. The only reason it got more hype than the Nook tablet is because of the $50 cheaper price tag. If B&N had released the 8GB NT first or at the same time as the 16GB tablet, you'd hear a lot more about it.
Think about it. Most people don't know much about specs and what not. They look at the price, see that the two devices are very similar but one is $50 cheaper. B&N really dropped the ball here.
But I'm also seeing that they have CM9 running on the HP Touchpad (which has the best HW out of all these devices) but they have several more known issues. I like that the HP Touchpad can dual boot webos and Android though, always wanted to play with WebOS and the superior HW is nice (I mean it was a $500 tablet in its hay-day). Still researching.
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HP Touchpad is a great device (I snagged 5 on the firesale and resold 4, kept one for a while for tinkering then gave it to a friend), but here you're talking about completely different form factor. Its a 9.7" I think? It is however being worked on by the official CM team and those guys are extremely dedicated. And I know quite a few people that use the latest CM9 Alpha as a daily driver. And I think they got Netflix working on it (not 100% sure though, haven't checked it in a few weeks).
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the cm7 team, conversely, has had an easier time since they ported the nook color's cm7, tweaked of course, and are fixing things that are/were not working correctly.
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This was for the first Alpha release. Alpha Final is a build from scratch for the Nook tablet.
personally my next tablet will -most likely- be the new asus that is coming out in a few months (tegra quad core) that is going to be 250.
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Rumors of a nexus tablet around the same time (possibly built by Asus, for Google).
If that happens, the nexus tablet will likely be the way to go (unless it doesn't have an sd slot).
Very nice info. Thanks guys. Yeah I'm leaning toward HP Touchpad ($225) or a Kindle Fire for ($140) used. But if a good deal on a Nook Tablet comes along, at least I know I can drop CM7 on it and it'll run good; bluetooth doesn't concern me that much, but multi-touch is fairly important.
Questions go in the Q&A section. There is a sticky stating that.
Request a moderator to move it. Thanks
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Questions go in the Q&A section. There is a sticky stating that.
Request a moderator to move it. Thanks
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Yep, crap, just saw that. Apologies everyone. You don't have to move this thread, you can just delete it or close it. I' tried to find controls to allow me to close or delete this thread but can't.
glitchsys said:
The only real ICS ROM for the Nook Tablet is Alpha status with a lot of known bugs, no where near daily driver ready.
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I've been using it since the day Alpha 0 came out, and couldn't be much happier with it. The WiFi is a little wonky if I don't turn it off before I turn the screen off, but CM7 was the same for me. The video acceleration is a little off when doing things fast, but for all the video watching and game playing I've done (and my kids have done) it has not caused any problems.
I would say the HP Touchpad is a great choice. I have two of the 16GB that I got direct from HP for $99 each them running CM7. I mostly use them as photoframes and use an HTC Evo View (32gb onboard storage) or HTC Flyer (16GB onboard storage) for daily useage. But the HP touchpad has the more development. There is a fair amount of dev for the Flyer, but not much development for the View but after installing VTLauncher and rooting and installing NoLock I am satisfied. I have also owned the Nook Color and Nook Tablet... but sold them once I tried a Flyer ($199 refurb) .... and then a View ($239 new). The NC or NT are both nice you are primarily looking for a reader with a few tablet functions. The Nook Color has more development but the Nook Tablet is noticeably faster. BTW I actually prefer Gingerbread to HoneyComb on the flyer and view. They have hw buttons for home, back, menu buttons so don't have to lose any screen when in full screen games but you lose the HW buttons in HC.
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Why don't you try an [B][I]android tablet from ESPOW[/I][/B]?
Why don't you try an android tablet from ESPOW?
Compared with others,it's low price with just $139 but has a lot of functions,such as WiFi,Supports 3D Video Decoder, enables you to play 3D games
Has three modes of operation: buttons, touch screen and Capacitive Touch Sense
Supports HDMI video
PMU Intelligent power management, 30% power save and lengthen the battery using time
Support most of audio format, multi-sound effect and cycleplay mode, enable you to enjoy listening to music
Support AVI, RM, RMVB, FLV, MP4, WMV, 3GP, MKV, etc. video format and support as high as 3840*2160P revolution playing
Built-in microphone and speaker, supports a super long recording time.
Never heard of ESPOW...
I decided on an HP Touchpad. I mean it's a $500 tablet and I was able to pickup the 32gb one for $190 shipped on EBay. I could have got a 16gb model for $170 but since it doesn't have a MicroSD card I decided more internal storage is best. I've seen CM9 running on my boss's HP Touchpad and it's quite stable, only 2 issues are Camera and Microphone but they work fine in the WebOS side.
This will hold me over until the $250 Asus with the Tegra3 comes out in a few months, or the Nexus Tablet for $150 comes out. I then may buy another tablet, if I found it useful enough, or just sell the Touchpad and pay the difference to get the upgraded Asus.
Thanks all for the advice though. I was down to the Kindle Fire or HP Touchpad and the HW is far superior in the Touchpad. The Kindle Fire though was cheaper/smaller/thinner/lighter and may have been a better option for my 2 year old who loves to play Angry Birds but the touchpad's hardware and fact that the wife would be using it a lot as well drew me to the touchpad.
hey there, as the title says, I'm interested in the nook tablet.
I have a nook simple touch, rooted, but want to be able to get a bit more of a true tablet experience.
1) hows battery life? I mostly intend to actually read, view pdfs, some online browsing, and note taking. essentially, does the nook tablet battery do well w a lot of usage?
2) how is cm7 or ics coming along? do these improve battery at all, or hurt it from stock?
3) why did you chose your nook tablet over what options you were considering?
4) is there an "updated" model coming soon that might replace the tablet?
thanks guys!
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darkness122 said:
hey there, as the title says, I'm interested in the nook tablet.
I have a nook simple touch, rooted, but want to be able to get a bit more of a true tablet experience.
1) hows battery life? I mostly intend to actually read, view pdfs, some online browsing, and note taking. essentially, does the nook tablet battery do well w a lot of usage?
2) how is cm7 or ics coming along? do these improve battery at all, or hurt it from stock?
3) why did you chose your nook tablet over what options you were considering?
4) is there an "updated" model coming soon that might replace the tablet?
thanks guys!
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1.) Battery life is pretty good for the most part. It should treat you really well for what you intend to use it for. Keep in mind that the biggest killers of battery life are the display and WiFi.
2.) Check out the Development subforum and threads with [ROM] in the title. CM7 is further along than CM9 and has an internal version and one to run from SD card. I think the general consensus is that battery life is nearly the same between CM7 and stock.
3.) I guess the big rival to the NT is the Kindle Fire. But the NT offers double the RAM as the Kindle Fire and also has a microSD slot, allowing you to multiply the amount of storage. Not much of a contest if you ask me. This device has a lot of potential for its value.
4.) Not that I've heard. In fact, I've heard that Barnes and Noble wasn't doing quite as well with sales as they thought, so I'm not sure where the NOOK product line will go from here.
Good news, maybe they are forced to unlock the bootloader eventually.
Lesson learned.
While the NT is a great device, there is a rumored nexus tablet that is supposed to compete with the KF price (and thus the NT) coming this summer.
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While the NT is a great device, there is a rumored nexus tablet that is supposed to compete with the KF price (and thus the NT) coming this summer.
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I'm still pretty salty about this. I was looking forward to the MeMo 370T, and I find it unlikely that Asus would release two tablets like this around the same time.
Meh, I'm pretty sure we'll see a 7" Nexus Tablet with specs that are at the very least comparable to the NT, if not better.
The key part though, will be that it won't be horribly locked down and it'll come with unfucked ICS.
The only potential downside will be a lack of an SD card; Google has shown with the Galaxy Nexus that they really don't want to progress with external sd cards and they do have quite a few of their own services (videos, books) thus they may want to limit local storage ala Kindle Fire.
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While the NT is a great device, there is a rumored nexus tablet that is supposed to compete with the KF price (and thus the NT) coming this summer.
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hmmm I suppose both the nook tablet and kindle fire have been out for a while. maybe waiting for this tablet might not be a bad idea...
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Solar.Plexus said:
I'm still pretty salty about this. I was looking forward to the MeMo 370T, and I find it unlikely that Asus would release two tablets like this around the same time.
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Memo has been officially canceled by Asus, it was shown at CES and they canceled it shortly after, presumably due to not wanting to release two tablet (memo and nextab) of the same price range around the same time.
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Memo has been officially canceled by Asus, it was shown at CES and they canceled it shortly after, presumably due to not wanting to release two tablet (memo and nextab) of the same price range around the same time.
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I don't believe this was ever confirmed though.
An "insider" source if I remember right though.
Rumors were though that Asus was pairing up with Google for the Nexus tablet so I think its a reasonable conclusion that they wouldn't want to put two nigh identical tablets out on the market like that.
Just curious as to what roms people are running on their Nook Tablets. I think I've covered all the different options here. Make sure to vote in the actual poll at the top of the thread and not just post what you're running!
If you vote dual boot or other, please post details!
Thanks and hopefully we get some good results here.
interesting question
I'm eager to see the results.
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I really want to use CM7 but my primary use is reading B&N and Kindle content. Until there is a way to read books and magazine subs in CM7 that utilizes the B&N reader I'm locking in to a rooted stock version. The market version of the B&N reader doesn't cut it.
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I responded dual boot but that isn't exactly correct. I started with CM7 from SD Card which I still use occasionally but primarily I use stock 1.4.2 rooted (with AW's 4.6) and I am eagerly awaiting CM9 - likely the SD Card version because of minimal risk....
Rooted 1.4.0. With B&N apps. I read mostly with the Kindle app, so I think MIUI is in the near future.
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Rooted "9.9.9.9" (1.4.0) with Go Launcher, Google apps, and HomeCatcher running.
If it can do everything, why change it?
(Until CM9 that is).
MIUI android 2.3.7
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Make sure to vote on the poll guys and not just post! Pretty interesting distribution so far.
I'm running cm7 until the new kernel is up and running, then I'm switching to cm9, I had it on my nook for a while, but went back to cm7 for the stability. CM9 rocks and i can't wait to put it back on.
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I'm surprised that more people aren't running Cm9. it must be just me in that once I tried out ICS j couldn't stand the non-tablet-optimized gingerbread anymore. Sure its stable but I just can't stand the horrible tablet widget support, the ugly-ish UI elements and the older features without Holo themes. I guess I'm a really picky user, but to me Cm9 even in its current state is pretty much perfect. Also a rip for anyone who is running Cm9, if you set the processor to run at a consistent 1Ghz then the whole OS runs SO much smoother. Also I've actually gained battery life since switching to the faster clock speed. Been using it like this for about 3 weeks and its much much improved.
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I'm surprised that more people aren't running Cm9. it must be just me in that once I tried out ICS j couldn't stand the non-tablet-optimized gingerbread anymore. Sure its stable but I just can't stand the horrible tablet widget support, the ugly-ish UI elements and the older features without Holo themes. I guess I'm a really picky user, but to me Cm9 even in its current state is pretty much perfect. Also a rip for anyone who is running Cm9, if you set the processor to run at a consistent 1Ghz then the whole OS runs SO much smoother. Also I've actually gained battery life since switching to the faster clock speed. Been using it like this for about 3 weeks and its much much improved.
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I'm willing to bet a lot of the people saying they use CM7 are using bootable SDcard version. This is perceived as a "safe" way as you are not modifying the internal memory and doing so seems to scare people (despite the fact that this thing is pretty difficult to brick).
Also, IIRC Netflix isn't working on CM9 (I cancelled my Netflix last year when they went pants on head retarded so I can't test). Netflix is a pretty popular service though so I'm sure a lot of people want to retain this functionality.
Edit: I'm sure once CM9 is more "stable" and there is an sdcard version people will switch to it.
Netflix works to the point I can hear the show but not see it for me on cm9. I'm fairly sure that devs will solve the issue when ducati is fixed.
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I did try out the sdcard version of cm7 at first, to take a test run, but then i switched to the emmc version and have no complaints. Alot of people are worried about voiding their warranty, but i got over that quickly. I even brought my nook into bn that i used to work at the other day to replace my broken charger and the manager saw my nook and thought it was really cool and now he wants to root his too.
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Alot of people are worried about voiding their warranty
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To add to this a bit, I think people are simply not aware of how relatively easy it is to restore the nook tablet to stock conditions.
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Yeah, I've never used an SD booting method, took the plunge early with the Cm7 that was only available for internal. Was sick of the stock OS and I wanted ICS. I tried for about 2 months straight to find a theme/launcher/Widgets/app configuration that suited me. But I just couldn't. Now I'm on Cm9 and completely content. I'm so used to using internal that being afraid of it seems weird to me.
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I've never booted into the stock OS :smug:
CWM sdcard, booted into CWM, mounted to move CM7 zip over and then flashed. About a week or two later I flashed CM9 and I'm happy with it. I use my Xoom for most video watching/graphic intensive games but the Nook is a great alternative when I want to be a bit more mobile and read books/comic books (xoom is **** in portrait mode).
Having ICS on 3 out of 4 devices is nice (the 4th is a bit of a relic and doesn't have the hardware to properly support ICS).
I'm running cm7 right now, mostly reading , but occasionally watching an MLB game streaming on the Tablet. I try out every new version of the ICS builds, but end up back with cm7 after a few days. The DEV's are doing a great job, and this is a fine Tablet.
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I guess I'll start with a little background.
I started on Android with a Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 (I know, awful choice) coming from a Nokia 5800 which was, at the time, a very good phone. After the fiasco with x10, I got an LG Optimus One, which worked fine for me, but it's limited internal storage made me reconsider my decision. By then, I had already bought the Nook Tablet, which I rooted hours after I got it, then had the (limited) Android experience with homecatcher and go launcher and stuff. I finally was forced to buy another phone, I got mugged, so I bought the Motorola Defy+.
I was searching every forum for a stable-ish CM9 for the Nook and I finally decided to go for CM7 which is a lot more stable, but I was worried about bricking the Nook or doing something to it that would make me unable to sell it at some point. I found a way to boot from SD and then I finally leaped. CM7 it was and WOW has it blown my mind. I really like everything about CM and now I'm just waiting for CM9 to get out of alpha.
After this experience, I had to go for CM9 on my phone so, after a lot of trouble rooting it (because of a new BL version) I finally could and now I'm as happy as I could be with my Defy+, it's amazing! So, that's the story, maybe a little too long for... what was the question? xD
I'm using a nexus 7 (2012) at the moment and am looking for an upgrade.
The things that annoy me about the nexus are the speed (very slow/laggy at times), and the screen size, which i feel is juts a little bit low.
i've been looking at the LG G Pad and the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, which seems like a very nice unit.
however, i have a lot of purchases in the Play store and i really like cyanogen/aokp etc..
so my question is, what do you think the chances are that in a month or 2 there will be a handful of stable custom ROMs for the HDX that will let me essentially run vanilla android on it without having to sacrifice disk space to having the stock OS installed 'as well'.
any one care to venture a guess? also, are there any other weirdnesses (besides the Fire OS) to the kindle that i might want to consider over the GPE LG G Pad?
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I'm using a nexus 7 (2012) at the moment and am looking for an upgrade.
The things that annoy me about the nexus are the speed (very slow/laggy at times), and the screen size, which i feel is juts a little bit low.
i've been looking at the LG G Pad and the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, which seems like a very nice unit.
however, i have a lot of purchases in the Play store and i really like cyanogen/aokp etc..
so my question is, what do you think the chances are that in a month or 2 there will be a handful of stable custom ROMs for the HDX that will let me essentially run vanilla android on it without having to sacrifice disk space to having the stock OS installed 'as well'.
any one care to venture a guess? also, are there any other weirdnesses (besides the Fire OS) to the kindle that i might want to consider over the GPE LG G Pad?
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Yes I believed that it is only a matter of time (at most 2 months, but don't hold me on this) we already have a semi stable Asop ROM, and multiple people have commented in that thread talking about releasing their ROMs in the rear furture. I am using the gapps update 1 ROM and it is practically stock, even with stock settings, keyboard, launcher ect. The only thing in don't like is kindle navbar, and status bar. But people are already talking about bringing this to the stock rom, also there is a xposed framework module for our device which will bring a lot of options In the future (Google exposed framework and what is for more info on that). So yes I would recomend this device also, if you care about amazon services there is a flashable zip that allows you to have google apps(gapps) and amazon services(I have not tested this, but I'm sure it works)
It also seems that the 7 inch has some more development at the moment but I think the 8.9 will have more in the future
Hope this helps, like if it did!
Thanks! that's very helpful.
I just found out one thing that makes me lean much more over to the G Pad side of the decision - it has an SD card slot! That trumps the snapdragon 800 for me...
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Thanks! that's very helpful.
I just found out one thing that makes me lean much more over to the G Pad side of the decision - it has an SD card slot! That trumps the snapdragon 800 for me...
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if you want to still have storage
get the the kindle for its price and then go to hypershop.com and spend $100 and get a iusbport it allows you to use any storage (thumb drives hard drive sdcards old ipods ect.) as a usb storage that you can access by wifi
then you are not stuck with sd only u will have more options
I myself use them with the thor os as a secondary operating system and besides the system settings being kindle I don't notice a difference I can access all my google play with out any problems
p.s the iusbport can be accessed with just about any device via the web
I use es file explorer with it set as a ftp server on all my androids and Iusbport has a app on apple for theres that I use
best video players ive found for them bsplayer (android) goodplayer (ipad) moliplay (both) based on video formate experences my vary but other apps tend to pick up the format slack
henrypootel said:
I'm using a nexus 7 (2012) at the moment and am looking for an upgrade.
The things that annoy me about the nexus are the speed (very slow/laggy at times), and the screen size, which i feel is juts a little bit low.
i've been looking at the LG G Pad and the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, which seems like a very nice unit.
however, i have a lot of purchases in the Play store and i really like cyanogen/aokp etc..
so my question is, what do you think the chances are that in a month or 2 there will be a handful of stable custom ROMs for the HDX that will let me essentially run vanilla android on it without having to sacrifice disk space to having the stock OS installed 'as well'.
any one care to venture a guess? also, are there any other weirdnesses (besides the Fire OS) to the kindle that i might want to consider over the GPE LG G Pad?
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Go with the GPad, A stable rom may come, but kernels won't be for some time. Actually, I would wait to see what March & the MWC brings. The HDX is nice & does everything I want, but the Nexus 7 (2013) is my mod/dev toy. A few custom roms may even come, but development in a device like the HDX, which is based on an inferior fork of Android, will never garner as much community support as a developer device, regardless of how wonderful the hardware may be. So, the HDX a a choice of 2 to a half dozen, the GPad & the choice of maybe a dozen or two, or the Nexus 7 (2013) & hundreds of choices. Personally, I considered adding the GPad, but I really am impressed with the SD800/Adreno 330 & have also played with a SD805/Adreno 420 dev board & it is the beast. So, I am waiting to seee what March/April brings before deciding what toy to add to the collection. If you must have something NOW, well the 7" HDX is cheap, but the newest Nexus 7 has a ton more possibilities for little more, especially if you watch for deals or turn to Swappa.
Thanks for all the help eveyone!
I've gone with the gpad and, after using it for a few hours now, i love it! seems so much faster than my Note2, and blows the old nexus 7 out of the water!