Not sure how many of you know about this, but there is an app in the play store named nfc classic that lets your phone emulate cards. I know that our phones don't support google wallet so I thought I'd give it a try. I tried to use it with my local public transportation card (marta) which is nfc enabled, and although it read the card, the Marta system didn't recognize the data on my phone as a valid card (probably because of encryption issues). I was thinking it's gotta work for somebody (some comments for the app in the store claimed that it works), so I thought I'd share.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lassic&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
thanks hope it works for me
Sounds neat. I'd love to be able to leave more of my cards at home.
Is there any kind of security? Like I have to enter a pattern or number when a device swipes with my phone?
This most likely will not work unless whatever card you are using uses absolutely no type of security.
Does anybody know where I can buy NFC tag for testing purposes???
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Does anybody know where I can buy NFC tag for testing purposes???
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NFC Task Launcher by Tagstand has a free offer that if you send out a tweet they will give you 2 free tags.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jwsoft.nfcactionlauncher&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
If you want to buy them then I suggest http://tagsfordroid.com/ they had a pretty good prices and decent tags.
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Digikey sells them.. About a buck each.
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I'm not sure how slow or fast this technology will roll out, here in the States. Heck it could be 2014 before we actually get some common use out of it or it could be as early as 2012.
(Read up on NFC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_field_communication)
(Watch NFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49L7z3rxz4Q)
But in the meantime I was considering the soon to come NFC capable, micro SD Cards & using that in my EVO 3D & maybe the phone after .vs getting a phone I don't want (that has NFC) or an NFC sticker that has poor software interation.
I might never use it (much like my OG EVO's HDMI out cord) but I'm no stranger to being prepared.
One good thing about the EVO 3D is the card's location for this type of card, as I'm guessing its range will not be as good as a dedicated & integrated NFC solution but its location is set on the outermost region in the EVO 3D & not deeply slotted within the phone, which should help. Again, its just guesses as I haven't even seen or heard about this card actually being tested or what it uses for range, only that its in development.
Thoughts? Plans? Scoffs? Meh?
I have mixed feelings about this NFC technology. On one hand it is about as close to a voluntary national ID card type system that I can think of aside from credit/debit cards... and we already have and use those, so, this just eliminates that one last thing to carry. But either way the more use of this type of tech is taken up by the general public the less common cash will be...I'd imagine cash would probably be accepted as legal tender always...but then again, throw around the word terrorist a couple times in congress and where there is a will there is a way. Now any 'non-government-sanctioned' transactions will have a very clear and accessible trail....
....now, I'll take my tinfoil hat off and say it is cool. I do dig technology...but aside from cashless payment systems I don't see much valid use of this technology. Somebody please tell me what I'm missing? It doesn't seem too terribly cool, but, once again perhaps I am missing something.
It also sounds ripe for abuse and fraud. Sure, they can use mega-secure encryption and there will be a clear trail, but, if it was designed by man there is (usually) a back door, intentional or otherwise.
Someone please tell me what is so exciting that I am missing, surely there must be something?
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Someone please tell me what is so exciting that I am missing, surely there must be something?
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You got the main idea down (honestly what you posted will be some of the most commonly used functions of it) but it also goes a tad further,
Quoting the Wiki link here of just the few things NFC can do:
Social networkingNFC simplifies and expands Social networking options:
File Sharing: Tap one NFC device to another to instantly share a contact, photo, song, application, video, or website link.[6]
Electronic business card: Tap one NFC device to another to instantly share electronic business cards or resumes.[7][8]
Electronic money: To pay a friend, you could tap the devices and enter the amount of the payment.
Mobile gaming: Tap one NFC device to another to enter a multiplayer game.[6][9]
Friend-to-friend: You could touch NFC devices together to Facebook friend each other or share a resume or to "check-in" at a location.[10]
[edit] Bluetooth and WiFi ConnectionsNFC can be used to initiate higher speed wireless connections for expanded content sharing.[11]
Bluetooth: Instant Bluetooth Pairing can save searching, waiting, and entering codes. Touch the NFC devices together for instant pairing.[6][11]
WiFi: Instant WiFi Configuration can configure a device to a WiFi network automatically. Tap an NFC device to an NFC enabled router.[11]
[edit] eCommerceNFC expands eCommerce opportunities, increases transaction speed and accuracy, while reducing staffing requirements. A Personal identification number (PIN) is requried for payments.[7]
Mobile payment: An NFC device may make a payment like a credit card by touching a payment terminal at checkout or a vending machine when a PIN is entered.[7][6][12]
PayPal: PayPal may start a commercial NFC service in the second half of 2011.[13][14]
Google Wallet is an Android app that stores virtual versions of your credit cards for use at checkout when a PIN is used.[12]
Ticketing: Tap an NFC device to purchase rail, metro, airline, movie, concert, or event tickets. A PIN is required.[7][15][16]
Boarding pass: A NFC device may act as a boarding pass, reducing check-in delays and staffing requirements.[7]
Point of Sale: Tap an SmartPoster tag to see information, listen to an audio clip, watch a video, or see a movie trailer.[10][11]
Coupons: Tapping an NFC tag on a retail display or SmartPoster may give the user a coupon for the product.[10][11]
Tour guide: Tap a passive NFC tag for information or an audio or video presentation at a museum, monument, or retail display (much like a QR Code).[6][10]
[edit] Identity documentsNFC's short range helps keep encrypted identity documents private.[11]
ID card: An NFC enabled device can also act as an encrypted student, employee, or personal ID card or medical ID card.[11]
Keycard: A NFC enabled device may serve as car, house, and office keys.[11]
Rental Car and hotel keys: NFC rental car or hotel room keys may allow fast VIP check-in and reduce staffing requirements.[6][17]
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Okay, all of those are extensions on the basic idea of what I thought it was...though much more clever and compelling I must say.
Okay...I'm on board. A lot of those uses seem like even going through the motion of 'tapping' would be a pain in the ass to do...but then I realized you would (like social networking sites) probably just set automatic (manually override-able) 'privacy defaults', 'proximity defaults' and 'dwell defaults' for checking in places, proximity auto-friending, game joining, contact transferal, etc.
Very interesting...also very scary, but, old fashioned 'privacy' might just be a thing of the past--though I would only sign up for a society like that if there was an equivalent amount of transparency in the operating of such a society, but, wiki-leaks and this administrations empty promises have already shown that to be nearly impossible to achieve through anything but empty lip service.
But I digress, aside from my idealism and cynicism being (once again) my stickiest of wickets, I think this has the potential to be really freakin' cool.
Cvs Pharmacy now accepts google wallet for payment. Our phones are already out dated... ha. Does anyone know if the photon has nfc?
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Cvs Pharmacy now accepts google wallet for payment. Our phones are already out dated... ha. Does anyone know if the photon has nfc?
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Did you even read any of the, what 4 (FOUR!??) other posts? One of them tells you everything you need to know to have your "way out of date" phone perform this simple function that is very likely buried in the phone somewhere, waiting for an update to open up...
...I doubt it costs all of $1 to enable this technology. It's like bluetooth but nowhere near as powerful....bluetooth chips are so cheap to make that they are thrown in on wifi stacks for free...ask any of us nook owners
Yeah It's an add on hence why I said what I said. Also that's SD nfc card Isn't available yet... Nor do we have pricing or a date for availability so what's your point? I never said It's "way out of date" no need to be so defensive.
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Cvs Pharmacy now accepts google wallet for payment. Our phones are already out dated... ha. Does anyone know if the photon has nfc?
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No. I haven't heard of any upcoming Android phones (aside from Samsung & Nexus related devices) that will have it, just that they will add it in the future.
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Yeah It's an add on hence why I said what I said. Also that's SD nfc card Isn't available yet... Nor do we have pricing or a date for availability so what's your point? I never said It's "way out of date" no need to be so defensive.
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Yeah, sorry about that.
I was just scanning the thread, read that post (of mine) and thought "what's that asshole's problem?" ... I don't know what the hell my problem was.
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Honestly I have no desire whatsoever to use this.
NFC= tool of the devil
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NFC= tool of the devil
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LOL, I'm guessing the "mark of the beast" will be NFC. I don't plan on sticking around for that.
I can't tell if you guys are being serious... NFC is the future, whether it's utilized well or not it'll still be a huge deal a couple years down the line. Google's only getting started with their implementation.
Cousin has a NS4G, has an NFC tag on his door to turn on WiFi, open up his remote notifier app, and turn his volume all the way down.
You may be thinking "Big deal Tasker could do it." but imagine anyone being able to do that from just a swipe, no configuring or anything. Just swipe your phone and you're automatically on a locked network.
I'm especially excited to see what smart companies can do with NFC for marketing.
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I can't tell if you guys are being serious... NFC is the future, whether it's utilized well or not it'll still be a huge deal a couple years down the line. Google's only getting started with their implementation.
Cousin has a NS4G, has an NFC tag on his door to turn on WiFi, open up his remote notifier app, and turn his volume all the way down.
You may be thinking "Big deal Tasker could do it." but imagine anyone being able to do that from just a swipe, no configuring or anything. Just swipe your phone and you're automatically on a locked network.
I'm especially excited to see what smart companies can do with NFC for marketing.
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You're right, it just depends on the speed of how its deployed & spread.
I'm hoping it spreads like wildfire & setups (much like your cousin's) become a common deal.
Serious, yes. The thread is just to touch people's stance (not everyone may like it was we do) on current plans & feelings for NFC, I plan to make a move the month the SD card solution becomes available.
Hi guys I can use your help in a form of a little guidance in getting getting my payment stopped on an Android market app, it's called " Bakery Story " it's a free app for kids when the app is opened it tricks kids in buying gems of some sort, my 6 yr old daughter downloaded the game and I saw an email receipt from Google for $100 .Verizon said they can't do anything, bank said call Google, I tried contacting Google but a dead end. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you.
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I would just file a fraud case with your bank
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Hi guys I can use your help in a form of a little guidance in getting getting my payment stopped on an Android market app, it's called " Bakery Story " it's a free app for kids when the app is opened it tricks kids in buying gems of some sort, my 6 yr old daughter downloaded the game and I saw an email receipt from Google for $100 .Verizon said they can't do anything, bank said call Google, I tried contacting Google but a dead end. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you.
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I would try contacting the developer and tell them your story nicely and say if you would like to resolve it. If the developer is a decent person, they should work something out with you. However, if they won't work with you, I would call your card company and have the charges reversed.
Thanks guys I tried both methods but no results no reply from dev and bank said because it was my debit not credit card if was credit card there would be third party involved which could be disputed, Google said they're not responsible for on app purchases.
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Let's try this in here, I posted this same thread in general and it got deleted, twice, hmmm ,is someone trying to cover someone's ass? I have every proof that this app ripped an unsuspecting child off so why shouldn't I let other users know of this app.
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Are you talking about this Bakery Story? It has 75k plus reviews and a 4 1/2 star rating... exactly how many of these gems did your child buy?
Also, your thread earlier was not deleted, it was moved, and you should have a PM stating that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207420
Technically it is your fault. Not saying you shouldnt be able to get a refund but you should of kept an eye on your kid or thought her to be more careful. Granted she is only 6, but its never too early to start.
Anyways, look in the settings. Maybe you can prevent things like this in the future.
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Hi guys I can use your help in a form of a little guidance in getting getting my payment stopped on an Android market app, it's called " Bakery Story " it's a free app for kids when the app is opened it tricks kids in buying gems of some sort, my 6 yr old daughter downloaded the game and I saw an email receipt from Google for $100 .Verizon said they can't do anything, bank said call Google, I tried contacting Google but a dead end. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you.
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I remember that Apple had similar issues and they ultimately placed a setting in iOS to toggle 'In App' purchases On/Off. I would do some research on what happened there and see if it helps in your case. You can dispute charges on a debit card, as I had to do that one time. The other party will be given something like 30 days to respond to your debit card company. If they do not respond, then the charges will be removed from your debit card.
On a different note, perhaps it would be a good idea to use a pre-paid credit card that can be topped-off for making purchases from the Market. I may look into this myself.
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I remember that Apple had similar issues and they ultimately placed a setting in iOS to toggle 'In App' purchases On/Off. I would do some research on what happened there and see if it helps in your case. You can dispute charges on a debit card, as I had to do that one time. The other party will be given something like 30 days to respond to your debit card company. If they do not respond, then the charges will be removed from your debit card.
On a different note, perhaps it would be a good idea to use a pre-paid credit card that can be topped-off for making purchases from the Market. I may look into this myself.
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Yeah I dont see how he can't dispute it because even though it's a debit card, i assume it has the visa/master card logo on it and thus is still backed by them for purchases you did not enter a pin for. Email or call visa/master card directly if your bank is giving you the runaround.
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Are you talking about this Bakery Story? It has 75k plus reviews and a 4 1/2 star rating... exactly how many of these gems did your child buy?
Also, your thread earlier was not deleted, it was moved, and you should have a PM stating that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207420
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I need to check pm to see if it was moved if it was, my bad. I think it was 58 gems she chose, I don't know at what stage of the game that is.
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this is why i do not buy apps.
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this is why i do not buy apps.
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That's the problem it's a free app.
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Yea. I had a similiar issue with a debit card. It does go through visa/MC etc. You have to push hard though. Bank didn't want to go down that road but they did when I started yelling about it.
Now I have my AmEx linked and any issues are just a click away to fix.
Keep on the bank though. They can help if they want to.
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Yea. I had a similiar issue with a debit card. It does go through visa/MC etc. You have to push hard though. Bank didn't want to go down that road but they did when I started yelling about it.
Now I have my AmEx linked and any issues are just a click away to fix.
Keep on the bank though. They can help if they want to.
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I would call visa/mc as I mentioned and/or call your bank and threaten to get visa/mc involved since the bank is obviously ignoring rules set by visa/mc (probably because they stand to lose somehow over it).
That's why I use a credit union debit/check card and credit card.
Much more forgiving and easier to work with.
Technically, you're on the hook. You just need to find the right sympathetic ear.
The simple solution, for the future, is to go to your Google account and remove your credit card information. That way you can't buy an app or do an in-app transaction without knowingly putting in a credit card number.
It's inconvenient, I agree, but it's a lot safer.
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this is why i do not buy apps.
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Sorry, but why don't you buy apps? Because someone else's 6 year old child accidentally purchased some in-game items? I'm hoping you mean paid apps, because an Android device without apps would be pretty boring I would think. Although this same mistake can happen in a free app just as easily, if your not paying attention to what your doing, just blindly clicking on things, and accept charges two or more times. Still, not a very solid reason to stay away from apps I'm my eyes.
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Reading around the internet it sounds like you are going to have to contact Google about the situation as it seems that in app purchases go through them not the developers.
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I remember that Apple had similar issues and they ultimately placed a setting in iOS to toggle 'In App' purchases On/Off. I would do some research on what happened there and see if it helps in your case. You can dispute charges on a debit card, as I had to do that one time. The other party will be given something like 30 days to respond to your debit card company. If they do not respond, then the charges will be removed from your debit card.
On a different note, perhaps it would be a good idea to use a pre-paid credit card that can be topped-off for making purchases from the Market. I may look into this myself.
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I switched awhile ago to a prepaid credit card. No fees unless paying bills online. And I can transfer from my primary acct to my prepaid acct without fees instantly.
Thanks for all replies and input guys I had it resolved through the bank, it is a loophole in the system that some crooks and people with the only intent to acquire other people's money unlawfully found and taking advantage of, anyway my fault in leaving my info on the device.
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I running The-Unofficial ROM from The Collective. NFC is activated and I'm curious as hell what it's all about. I wanna use it but I'm not sure where to start. From what I gather, Google wallet will not work for payments at this point on the Note. Are there other forms of payment apps that I can use? I have NFC, what should I do with it? Thanks!
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I running The-Unofficial ROM from The Collective. NFC is activated and I'm curious as hell what it's all about. I wanna use it but I'm not sure where to start. From what I gather, Google wallet will not work for payments at this point on the Note. Are there other forms of payment apps that I can use? I have NFC, what should I do with it? Thanks!
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Here's a good article for ya.
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/how-to-use-nfc-to-automate-your-mobile-routine-2012028/
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Here's a good article for ya.
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/how-to-use-nfc-to-automate-your-mobile-routine-2012028/
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I had no clue what NFC was and just kept ignoring the term when I saw it. But this is COOL! Thanks for posting that article. Am I understanding this correctly that the phone can actually write the code to the tag? So all I need to do is buy a few dirt cheap tags and I can start doing this?
Also, I'm looking on this site... want to make sure these will be ok.
http://www.tagstand.com/collections...2-nfc-sticker-ultralight-c-square-35mm-x-35mm
I'm really wanting to walk into McDonald's and pay for my iced coffee with my phone, cuz I can
Obviously NFC will bring the ability to use the device in place of a credit card. But, I've started researching NFC a bit and see there are some pretty cool things that can be done with NFC tags. Has anyone used these before and if so, what types of things have you done? This seems really cool to me and I'm trying to figure out what might be fun to play with using the tags.
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Obviously NFC will bring the ability to use the device in place of a credit card. But, I've started researching NFC a bit and see there are some pretty cool things that can be done with NFC tags. Has anyone used these before and if so, what types of things have you done? This seems really cool to me and I'm trying to figure out what might be fun to play with using the tags.
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I am excited about this feature as well but can't answer your questions because I have never used it. But your question is one I also have so hopefully someone with experience with NFC will chime in.
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I am excited about this feature as well but can't answer your questions because I have never used it. But your question is one I also have so hopefully someone with experience with NFC will chime in.
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This should answer all your questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359057
Looks like the guys at Simply Tapp have finally updated their app in the play store. We may finally have an NFC wallet replacement for all of us who have wanted Google Wallet!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tapp
Sadly though it still require's CM9 and above to use. I was hoping it would function on the Google Experience Rom's. I'll try and email them and find out more.
Report back here with your experiences with this!
I'm running PAC and it doesn't work. I guessed it would since PAC has a cm base but I guess not...
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After some hiccups and rough edges the app appears to work, but I have no valid cards for it to test out fully. I'm using PAC ROM 6/11/13 build.
The only options are prepaid Tapp cards which they say they are out of; McDonalds, WholeFoods, and Tim Horton's gift cards; or apparently you can swipe your own card (of some sort) if you have a magnetic reader for your phone, which they also say they can ship you one for who knows how much.
Looking at the $5 WholeFoods card, it's a bit upsetting seeing a $1.47 "processing fee" just to buy it. Until they support real debit or credit cards this system won't get very far.
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After some hiccups and rough edges the app appears to work, but I have no valid cards for it to test out fully. I'm using PAC ROM 6/11/13 build.
The only options are prepaid Tapp cards which they say they are out of; McDonalds, WholeFoods, and Tim Horton's gift cards; or apparently you can swipe your own card (of some sort) if you have a magnetic reader for your phone, which they also say they can ship you one for who knows how much.
Looking at the $5 WholeFoods card, it's a bit upsetting seeing a $1.47 "processing fee" just to buy it. Until they support real debit or credit cards this system won't get very far.
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Not to mention zero support for most Roms. Such a shame to see this. Its obviously some "cash cow" probably young entrepreneurs. Yet through all of this Google still doesn't charge a dime for their services. I'm officially giving up on NFC for the DNA. Between the lack of support and this ridiculous secure element crap its just become a headache that isn't worth it.
I wouldn't say that they have officially launched the app. Just updated it recently. The two guys that formed this company are from the Cyanogenmod team, hence why it only works with CM9 and above. The reason being is the SmartMX headers are enabled when they compile CM. Other Roms like sense do not have it enabled.
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