Ok so I have been on the phone all afternoon with verizon tech support and HTC support and i have gotten no where I apologize if this problem has been solved b4 i did extensive searches with no luck so here goes.
MY Stock Unrooted Thunderbolt is losing site of the apps that have been moved to my sd card on boot. So basically i have a majority of my apps on my tbolt saved to sd card to save space on the actual phone. Some of the apps were moved manually through the applications and others were moved using ZDbox as they were installed and moved. My phone has been this way for sometime with no problem. Now about 3 days ago my phone was acting really slow and just not working properly showing signs it needed to be rebooted so i rebooted it and once done booting i went to my apps and found several of the apps missing from my app drawer as well as the shortcuts on home screens. So verizon referred me to HTC who is blaming it on ZDbox they claim zdbox corrupted the app files somehow when it moved it to the sd card and if i uninstalled that they claim the problem should be solved. However I cant remove ZDBox due to my sd card not showing up that program seems to still be on the phone its self so it should be able to uninstall it but it just locks up when i try
now i could go on and on and on with what i have done but i was hopeing someone here maybe had a similar situation or knew of a way to fix this problem. I have the SD card backed up and all the app files are showing in the location they are suppose to be in but i just cant understand what would cause his problem.
ANY help would be great and i hope im not coming off as a noob i have been troubleshooting this for several days and do consider my self to be knowledgeable in this area but i have surpassed my experience with no luck and I am here hoeping someone out there has an idea !!!!
thanks again in advance
oh ya almost forgot verizon claimed a htc rep told them its a known problem and to just keep powercycling the phone and eventually it will see the apps but i never got them to say that to me they wanted to point straight to the third party app zdbox even after i told them not all the apps were moved by that app.
I was having a similar problem with my stock vzw galaxy tab I factory reset it and reinstalled only a select applications and seemed to solve it but i dont think i have that many apps on my tbolt (i had over 150 on my tab)
sounds like you have corruption on your sd card. I would pull it out of the phone, connect it to a pc and run a scandisk on it and let it correct any errors. Then I would back it up to the pc. After this I would put it back into the phone and see if the apps show up. If not, I would hound verizon or htc for a new sd card or new phone, their choice.
A friend of mine had the same issue and the only solution was to get rid of zdbox. The issue is:
The phone is not rooted and apps that get moved to the memory card that do not allow it natively will not show up (usually after a reboot) because the original location is not available when the phone or app looks for it.
To move them properly even most apps not meant to move, you have to root.
He also wound up having to reformat the sd card.
I would say to try the suggestion above and maybe you will have luck that way but my friend had to just leave the apps that dont move to sd on the phone. He still wont root even after he sees my phone and loves the things I can do with it.
Not sure why people are obsessed with moving Apps to the SD card. I put games on there but otherwise all the rest of my 100+ Apps are on the phone and I still have 1.7gb of free phone space.
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have you tried doing an sd card rescan?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bero.sdrescan
So if you are moving all of your apps to your SD card, what are you actually using your internal storage space for? I think doing that on a phone like the Thunderbolt isn't usually worth it. Combined with the problems moving the apps can cause, there really isn't much point to it.
Does anyone know how to get around the limit of installing no more than 123 apps to SD? I have a Samsung Epic. I can install more than that to SD but when I reboot my phone doesn't see the apps on the SD card and it slows down and becomes unusable. I know I can move some to the phone, but I don't want to do that. I have tried different Froyo and Gingerbread roms. Is there any way to up the limit past 123? Thanks.
I can honestly say that I do not have this issue.
I have an Epic 4G Touch, and currently have 202 apps on my SD card with no issues.
I am currently running the Stock ROM.
Are you on Gingerbread? Is your phone rooted? I use Titanium Backup to restore my apps.
Running GB, 2.3.4
Rooted
I also use TB, but everything on there now is a fresh install.
Feel free to use me to help narrow down some of the possibilities for why yours isn't working...
I'm also using GB, Rooted and I use Titanium. What do you mean everything on there is a fresh install? You didn't use Titanium to restore it?
I've tried different SD cards to no avail. I've tried having different roms, kernels and modems to no avail. As soon as i put app # 124 on my card (doesn't matter what app it is), and then I reboot my device, my phone then becomes unusable in the GUI.
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I'm also using GB, Rooted and I use Titanium. What do you mean everything on there is a fresh install? You didn't use Titanium to restore it?
I've tried different SD cards to no avail. I've tried having different roms, kernels and modems to no avail. As soon as i put app # 124 on my card (doesn't matter what app it is), and then I reboot my device, my phone then becomes unusable in the GUI.
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When I say everything on is a fresh install, I mean that I'm re-downloading and installing everything in very small batches, rather than using what I had backed up. After I get something down, and verify that it is working, I back it up.
The reason for this is that I kept getting my phone stuck in a bootloop, and couldn't figure out what was causing it. So I decided that it was almost as easy to re-download everything as it was to restore from backup, since I was pretty much doing it all one app at a time.
AppBrain has made that easier than I expected, though it hasn't relieved any of the tedium.
This may be an absurd question, but after you have broken the 123 barrier and rebooted, have you let your phone sit undisturbed for a while so that everything has a chance to catch up?
I know that as the amount of apps on my SD increases, the time from boot until the phone is "usable" increases as well. I've gotten around this by using Tasker to reboot the phone about fifteen minutes or so before I wake in the morning. That way, no matter if it takes two minutes or ten, it has plenty of time.
Also, have you tried completely busting the 123 barrier? Perhaps jumping straight to 150 or something would make a difference.
Googling for a brief bit only finds a couple of references to there being a limit on the number of apps, but that was supposedly resolved after Froyo.
Yes, I realize it takes a while to discover all the apps on the card after booting. I give it a while and the icons still just stay as a generic SD icon. If I go into Manage Applications those apps on the card are just the generic icon.
I have about 200 apps. I've restored them all before with Titanium and it still has the same problem. I've searched the web as well and saw that someone said it may be a Froyo limitation, but I've tried different Gingerbread roms and the problem still exists.
I've also tried RFS and EXT and it makes no difference.
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Yes, I realize it takes a while to discover all the apps on the card after booting. I give it a while and the icons still just stay as a generic SD icon. If I go into Manage Applications those apps on the card are just the generic icon.
I have about 200 apps. I've restored them all before with Titanium and it still has the same problem. I've searched the web as well and saw that someone said it may be a Froyo limitation, but I've tried different Gingerbread roms and the problem still exists.
I've also tried RFS and EXT and it makes no difference.
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Do you have the same problem using different SD cards?
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Yes, I bought a new SD card and still have the same problem. Old card was 16GB class 2, new card is 32GB class 4.
I've backed up and restored with MyBackup Pro as well and the same problem exists.
cbanks3 said:
Yes, I bought a new SD card and still have the same problem. Old card was 16GB class 2, new card is 32GB class 4.
I've backed up and restored with MyBackup Pro as well and the same problem exists.
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Some ROMs (like Cyanogenmod) let you move apps to the SD after installing on internal. You might try moving an app doing that and see if that breaks your barrier.
Also, try using that SD formatter for windows that Samsung or Panasonic make. A Google search will turn it up.
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I would suggest trying a class 10 sd card, but a class 6 should do fine. Also look for a firmware update for your phone as that could be the issue.
I've already tried using the card the way it came, I've formatted with Windows, I've formatted with CWM, I'm not so sure that using SD formatter will make much difference.
I have already tried moving apps to SD with the built-in app to sd functionality and it still causes problems when I get above 123 apps.
money11ez said: "I would suggest trying a class 10 sd card, but a class 6 should do fine. Also look for a firmware update for your phone as that could be the issue."
I don't have a class 10 sd card sitting around, so I can't try that. Why would the speed of the card affect how many apps can run off it?
What do you mean try a firmware update? I've tried the stock rom, and many custom froyo (ec05) and gb (ei22) roms and the problem still happens.
the faster the card the more bandwidth it has, so it can access more things at any given time.
Small question: Do you really use all of those apps?
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Epic 4G Move App to SD card limit
HI
I am experiencing the same problem with my EPIC 4G on a Gingerbread ROM. I have tried multiple times with different kernels to work with more than 150 apps on the SD card.
They all move over fine, but on the first reboot the phone fails to find them and goes in to a reproducible loop where it starts up, works very slowly for 2 minutes, then gives a haptic feedback buzz as it reboots, over and over for days.
I know the limit is between 84 and 150 apps on the SD card because I have a working backup image with 84 apps moved over. My experience has been that around the 120+ mark, it just goes very bad very quickly.
If you don't mind my asking, how do you know the limit is 123?
Colin
Hi everyone. My problem seems common but I couldn't find anyway a solution (except the drastic one).
Well without any reason using my mobile, I've found many, almost all the apps into my sd not working anymore.
I can't launch them and I receive this message: "could not launch the request activity" and I can't find them on my appdrawer.
What's happaning here?
I have a rooted Samsung GS 2.3, tried changing touchwiz and launcherpro, but nothing happened...
Any suggestion? Thanks
It sounds like your sd card is at fault. You need to format. Yes, you will loose everything, but this should fix the problem. If you are root, may try titanium backup, to backup the apps and their data.
thanks
thanks, of course formatting is always the best solution but what do you think if first I reinstall just the missing apps? ..or it's not suggested because it will happen again. (hope it's just a software problem)
You aren't moving the folders are you? May try downloading the stuff to the internal memory.
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Well the only thing I did was moving the apps to sd with android, but long time before this disaster.
This is really annoying, really.
I would not move program/app folders. That is a disaster just waiting to happen.
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thanks for telling me. but it's crazy that the system lets you do it
Sooooooo...
I recently updated my i9300 to foxhound 0.1, which is android 4.2.2.
It works fine and all BUT sometimes when installing apps or updating them they get installed to sd card automatically!
I did some googling, without much luck though since it seems i'm the only one interested in keeping my apps on the internal storage rather than the micro sd.
I had the doubt this was either the fault of apps like
App2sd/Link2sd so i uninstalled them (i really never actually used them), but i doubt it was their making...
What happened is with this new 4.2.2 now i am able to actually move apps to sd card (while on any other rom i dont even recall being able to) and this is cool, but i don't need it. Problem is my phone WANTS to.
So how can i change the default installation directory before i choose to throw my phone against the wall?:banghead:
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killbubble said:
Sooooooo...
I recently updated my i9300 to foxhound 0.1, which is android 4.2.2.
It works fine and all BUT sometimes when installing apps or updating them they get installed to sd card automatically!
I did some googling, without much luck though since it seems i'm the only one interested in keeping my apps on the internal storage rather than the micro sd.
I had the doubt this was either the fault of apps like
App2sd/Link2sd so i uninstalled them (i really never actually used them), but i doubt it was their making...
What happened is with this new 4.2.2 now i am able to actually move apps to sd card (while on any other rom i dont even recall being able to) and this is cool, but i don't need it. Problem is my phone WANTS to.
So how can i change the default installation directory before i choose to throw my phone against the wall?:banghead:
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About what sd are you talking? Internal sd which is actually the internal memory or external sd which is your micro sd?
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He is talking about them going to the micro SD card.
Exactly external sd. They just go there themselvesn it doesn't occur with all apps, so i'm guessing maybe the devs put some preferences in the installation properties? I think i recall reading about android devs being able to do this somewhere in their projects.....
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Try asking in the foxhound threads.
Hey, all.
This isn't a real big deal but it's annoying.
My S5 (SM-G900T) is rooted and has been since about two months after I bought it new.
It's running on stock everything 6.0.1
Baseband G900TUVU1GQC2
Kernel 3.4.0-7500527
A couple months ago I had to do a factory reset as well as flash a new stock OS because it set itself in Emergency mode and wouldn't open. Oh, and I really rooted using Odin on a PC.
Ever since that happened a lot of my third party apps, that I want and have installed in my external SD card don't stay there. Always after a reboot or restart. I'm pretty sure they aren't or can't move any other time on there own.
Its really annoying because they are my largest apps (of course) and my internal memory has only a couple of G's of memory left and when these apps jump ships my phone won't let me download anything etc....
Its my backup phone so its not crucial but, driving me nuts.
How can I keep the apps where I want them? I've used ROM Manager to direct apps to the external SD card by force and obviously it's not helping, even on new installs it doesn't force to the external SD like it should. That's another topic for another place.
Some help would be really cool and much appreciated
Thanks
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