Factory resets: How to avoid the most recent OTA? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm trying to get some foreknowledge for when the day comes so I can avoid this. I'm currently using a Bell Motorola Atrix running 2.3.4 gingerbread. I absolutely do not want the latest 2.3.6 on this phone. My question is, when I perform a factory reset, how do I avoid it installing 2.3.6 automatically OTA? Remove the simcard maybe? I'm not sure. I'm currently using a carrier unlocked and rooted Atrix, but the bootloader is not unlocked and never will be.
Please no answers that involve unlocked bootloaders / flashing custom ROMs. I am rooted but I will never be unlocking the bootloader on this phone, nor flashing custom ROMs for my own reasons.

Afaik, phone will ask you for confirmation to download update. It will not start automatically. Especially not over network. It happened to me few months ago. Then I froze updater.
I think that everything shoul be defrost before factory reset.

Zeljko1234 said:
Afaik, phone will ask you for confirmation to download update. It will not start automatically. Especially not over network. It happened to me few months ago. Then I froze updater.
I think that everything shoul be defrost before factory reset.
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it wont just automatically install the latest version from a factory reset?

omnius1 said:
it wont just automatically install the latest version from a factory reset?
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If you didn't download, no. I never heard that any OS just automatically download update and install without permission.

Zeljko1234 said:
I never heard that any OS just automatically download update and install without permission.
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Obviously you've never seen Windows 7.
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Zeljko1234 said:
If you didn't download, no. I never heard that any OS just automatically download update and install without permission.
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that's not what I'm talking about though. The Atrix shipped with Froyo at launch. But I could have sworn that the last couple of times I factory reset it (after GB came out for it), it just automatically installed the latest Gingerbread version during the setup process. I don't actually remember it asking me to download and install the first 2.3 GB release, then the next 2.3.4 release, then the latest 2.3.6 release. (As if it were reset to just like when I bought it, with Froyo)
Right now the Atrix is at 2.3.6. I bought my 2nd Atrix carrier-unlocked from a 3rd party vendor and it already had 2.3.4 on it. I want to make sure that if I ever factory reset it that the setup process isn't going to take me straight to 2.3.6

ravilov said:
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Obviously you've never seen Windows 7.
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What's Windows 7
Even Windows will actually ask you...

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[Q] Clarifications on Updating to 2.3.6

Ok, I know there are a lot of posts already on updating to 2.3.6 and root, but there appears to be a lot of different situations and limited information that is causing me some confusion.
So, what I want to do is get some clear details about probably the second most common situation: A Motorola Atrix 4G running the stock ROM with root access and an unlocked bootloader.
With regards to updating, aside from the obvious actions (i.e. TiBu, maybe a Nandroid), is there anything else that needs to be done to perform the update?
Additionally, I would like to keep root/unlocked even with the update, but I am willing to re-do root after the update. I can't find clear information on what methods work to keep root or to restore root after updating.
That is pretty much all that I am trying to do. I can not afford to brick my phone, so I want to make sure that I understand everything before I update.
P.S. Curse Motorola and it's stupid locked bootloaders!
I'm in the same shoes and looking to do the same thing...I want to keep root, not brick my phone...Apply the 141 update. I don't mind a little work (re-root, re-modify some files)
I'm running an unlocked bootloader, AT&T Atrix with 4.5.91 which is rooted with some custom changes (tethering, 2g/3g toggle, unlock APNs, agps)
Seems it could be possible to rebuild Blur_Version_91.4.5.141.MB860ATT.en.US available from Motorola and exclude the bootloader portions to keep the phone from bricking?
psychephylax said:
I'm in the same shoes and looking to do the same thing...I want to keep root, not brick my phone...Apply the 141 update. I don't mind a little work (re-root, re-modify some files)
I'm running an unlocked bootloader, AT&T Atrix with 4.5.91 which is rooted with some custom changes (tethering, 2g/3g toggle, unlock APNs, agps)
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Yeah, I used the script that applied the tethering/hotspot tweak. That's about it. I haven't had to use any agps or anything, it's got amazing gps as it is.
Glad I'm not the only one though
If you have a stock rom unlocked bootloader with root don't do the ota update.I just soft bricked my phone.
Sadly, I did just that. I just wasn't paying attention.
Update: resorted to a factory reset. Now I have 2.3.6 running. Just going to take some time to restore my apps and settings.
Looks like I'm in the same boat. What's the best way to recover from a soft-brick in this situation?
thatguy193 said:
If you have a stock rom unlocked bootloader with root don't do the ota update.I just soft bricked my phone.
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Yeah, this is exactly why I have asked. I read at least one post somewhere where someone tried both the SD Card and the OTA update and the SD didn't work, but the 2nd OTA try did. I don't know if they said they had unlocked or not.
Johnston212 said:
Yeah, this is exactly why I have asked. I read at least one post somewhere where someone tried both the SD Card and the OTA update and the SD didn't work, but the 2nd OTA try did. I don't know if they said they had unlocked or not.
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Well I found this threadhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498856 was trying the auto updater as suggested but my phone wont stay on long enough for it to work.It does the auto shutdown and tries re-installing the OTA update which gives me the android triangle guy.
I recently made an update of my Atrix 4G's System from 2.3.4 to 2.3.6.
My 2.3.4 version was unlocked and rooted. It is on ATT.
Initially I received a notification in my phone about the new System update available. I tried three times OTA, but each time the process failed. When it was booting up always gave me the Android Icon with an Exclamation mark inside of a triangle. But nothing else happens. My phone continued working but with the 2.3.4 version.
Then I went to this page:
Because I haven't less than 8 post in this site I can't post any URL.
But, go for the "Motorola software update" in the Motorola's web page or Google it and get it.
And installed the "Motorola Software update" application. I had to restart my PC in order to make the software to recognize and connect to my Atrix 4G. When the Atrix was connected, by USB port, I had to select the "Windows media Sync" in the USB connection options list to make the connection to work.
Then, all that I had to do was wait until the process got completed.
I hadn't see nothing different with the new update.
I conserved my "unlocked" condition but I lost my "Rooted" condition. But that is not a big issue, there are several thread in the web that help you to get rooted again.
Hope this can help, It works for me.
cjfermin said:
I conserved my "unlocked" condition but I lost my "Rooted" condition. But that is not a big issue, there are several thread in the web that help you to get rooted again.
Hope this can help, It works for me.
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You have an unlocked bootloader? Or sim-unlocked phone?
I'm in the same situation of @cjfermin and the 2.3.6 was flashed without any problem.
Of course I've lost ROOT, but I've followed simple instructions on the web (using Fasboot) and I've re-rooted the Atrix in 3 minutes.
PS: my Atrix was/is sim-unlocked and with unlocked bootloader.
emandt said:
I'm in the same situation of @cjfermin and the 2.3.6 was flashed without any problem.
Of course I've lost ROOT, but I've followed simple instructions on the web (using Fasboot) and I've re-rooted the Atrix in 3 minutes.
PS: my Atrix was/is sim-unlocked and with unlocked bootloader.
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Thanks, that is exactly what I was needing to find out. I've heard yes and no's on different re-rooting methods. Could you link the one that you used? I was thinking about using Gingerbreak or OneClickRoot
I was trying to apply the OTA 4.5.141, on my rooted AT&T Motorola Atrix stock rom 2.3.4 and after the first reboot, following the instructions from the update, I am getting the message “failed to boot 2 starting rds mode” and just sit there. After removing the battery and booting up again, the phone seems to booting up normally and then when the phone finishes loading most of the widgets, I get a message saying “turning off” and the same cycle keeps repeating.
This is my primary phone and I am really desperate right now and I do not know what to do.
Please I need some help,
Johnston212 said:
Could you link the one that you used?
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Here: http://www.android-advice.com/2012/root-the-motorola-atrix-4g-running-4-5-141/
Hope that helps you!
Alverik said:
I was trying to apply the OTA 4.5.141, on my rooted AT&T Motorola Atrix stock rom 2.3.4 and after the first reboot, following the instructions from the update, I am getting the message “failed to boot 2 starting rds mode” and just sit there. After removing the battery and booting up again, the phone seems to booting up normally and then when the phone finishes loading most of the widgets, I get a message saying “turning off” and the same cycle keeps repeating.
This is my primary phone and I am really desperate right now and I do not know what to do.
Please I need some help,
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Ok, is your bootloader unlocked as well? I googled the "failed to boot 2 starting RSD mode" that you mentioned and there are a number of posts on it from over the years. It seems that you may need to flash a SBF file, but I don't know enough about your situation to competently tell you more than that.
Johnston212 said:
Ok, is your bootloader unlocked as well? I googled the "failed to boot 2 starting RSD mode" that you mentioned and there are a number of posts on it from over the years. It seems that you may need to flash a SBF file, but I don't know enough about your situation to competently tell you more than that.
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I am on stock rom 2.3.4 and have only rooted my phone nothing else. It seems that because it was a rooted phone the update could not finish the process.
Now I don’t know what to do.
Should I try to flash to 2.3.4 using RDS lite and then update using OTA 4.5.141 or flash using 4.5.141 (I don’t know where to find it)?
Help please, this is my only phone.
Alverik said:
I am on stock rom 2.3.4 and have only rooted my phone nothing else. It seems that because it was a rooted phone the update could not finish the process.
Now I don’t know what to do.
Should I try to flash to 2.3.4 using RDS lite and then update using OTA 4.5.141 or flash using 4.5.141 (I don’t know where to find it)?
Help please, this is my only phone.
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If the only thing you've ever done to the phone is root then flashing the official 2.3.4 (not fruitcake) with RSDlite and then applying the 141 OTA update should be ok. Things to note:
1) Make sure the phone is fully charged
2) Apply the 141 OTA update from sd card. Go to motorola's website . I've had mixed results when applying previous updates when downloading over wifi.
3) Be VERY sure you've done nothing else to your phone other than root, i.e. unlock, mess with the bootloader and/or recovery (unlock, ROMs).
gnahc79 said:
If the only thing you've ever done to the phone is root then flashing the official 2.3.4 (not fruitcake) with RSDlite and then applying the 141 OTA update should be ok. Things to note:
1) Make sure the phone is fully charged
2) Apply the 141 OTA update from sd card. Go to motorola's website . I've had mixed results when applying previous updates when downloading over wifi.
3) Be VERY sure you've done nothing else to your phone other than root, i.e. unlock, mess with the bootloader and/or recovery (unlock, ROMs).
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The only thing that I have done other than rooting my phone it’s unlocking the sim card.
I don't have a SIM unlocked phone, so I can't with 100% certainty say you will be ok. You should be fine though. Maybe others with SIM unlocked phones will chime in.
gnahc79 said:
I don't have a SIM unlocked phone, so I can't with 100% certainty say you will be ok. You should be fine though. Maybe others with SIM unlocked phones will chime in.
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I am not able to copy the update file to the SD card because I get a message saying “turning off” a little bit after the phone loads the sd card and then I get the "failed to boot 2 starting RSD mode" and after that the only way to take it out of that mode, it’s by removing the battery.
What options do I have now?
Thank you,

Fail to update to 4.5.141

Hi all,
My AT&T Atrix is running 4.5.91. I unrooted it to update to 4.5.141 OTA (I understood it was risky to do an OTA update while rooted).
After I finished downloading the update, I started installing but during installation, the package icon changed to a warning icon (with no error message) and the phone rebooted on 4.5.91 with a message saying the update failed
I think the package may have been corrupted in the download as it was interrupted. Although, I did try this 3 times (redownloading each time)
Any tips?
Thanks
You must have frozen and/or deleted some Blur apps as well as being rooted. Unless you have all the stock files from the firmware you are updating from, the install will fail.
I have unrooted the phone
However, I did use the "integrate system apps updates into ROM" option on TB.
I did not freeze anything
Will this work:
http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Atrix+Upgrade/Atrix-Gingerbread-Update
If not, what must I do?
Edit: Oh, and I also have AdFree installed and enabled. Should I revert?
mickeycohen said:
I have unrooted the phone
However, I did use the "integrate system apps updates into ROM" option on TB.
I did not freeze anything
Will this work:
http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Atrix+Upgrade/Atrix-Gingerbread-Update
If not, what must I do?
Edit: Oh, and I also have AdFree installed and enabled. Should I revert?
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The sd card method will fail for you as well. Undo everything that required root access, including adfree...not sure if it will restore the modified files back to stock though, never used that app.
Exactly what happened to me. Successfully updated using Motorola Software Update
Hi
You have succeeded?
I am stuck for months trying to do this update...
It's absolutely frustrating...
I actually stopped trying. I got a RAZR a few weeks after I started this thread...
I might unlock the BL and install some ROMs to play with the Atrix but basically I don't use it anymore...
Anyway, I think the problem I was having was because I integrated updates into the ROM and I don't think it can be undone
Bootloader Unlocked?
If your bootloader is unlocked the update will most likely not work. Regardless, the link below has some useful information.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501532

[Q] Missing Software Update option in Settings Menu!

Greetings,
first of all my GS2 is running stock 2.3.3, locked/unrooted!
I noticed that there was no "software Update" option in Settings > About Phone..in fact I couldn't find it anywhere!
I then did a factory reset of the phone...still no go. Removed the battery/SIM, rebooted, still nothing.
Will I *still* be able to update via KIES Desktop once the ICS update is available?
Thanks in advance!
GroovyMotion said:
Greetings,
first of all my GS2 is running stock 2.3.3, locked/unrooted!
I noticed that there was no "software Update" option in Settings > About Phone..in fact I couldn't find it anywhere!
I then did a factory reset of the phone...still no go. Removed the battery/SIM, rebooted, still nothing.
Will I *still* be able to update via KIES Desktop once the ICS update is available?
Thanks in advance!
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You are running a very very old firmware .
Kies is the method that will upgrade .
jje
JJEgan said:
You are running a very very old firmware .
Kies is the method that will upgrade .
jje
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I know but I got my phone last august and it was running this version...most GS2 in canada runs this one stock
unrooting
Sorry to reply late but this is same problem I faced. The reason was I unrooted the rooted phone and the unrooter could not recover it completely. What I did is mentioned in following sequence.
1) In January 2012, I rooted the my LG Optimus 2x phone. Installed CWM (ClockWorkMod) and took backup of original ROM and kept safe aside. The rooting was done with SuperOneClick.
2) After that at least 50 times changed various roms like Customized Stock, CM, MIUI, etc.
3) Just last month August 2012, I just wanted to update to new new official stock (V20i) in India so I restored the ORIGINAL ROM from backup in CWM and then unrooted with "R1: Stock Recovery Image - By Paul O'Brien" which was super smooth without any unrooting issue. But now the SOFTWARE UPDATE option is missing. I still dont have solution on this problem may be some expert may suggest the solution.
The most possible reason I can guess here is the UNROOTING methods are not fully recovering the mod signatures.
Whoever are having this problem is possible that they might have purchased the used phone from a person who might have ROOTED it and simply UNROOTED it before selling to next owner. I am not expert and I may be wrong but this is just what I think is possible according to my own experience.

[Q] Android Jelly Bean update

Hi Guys, I have looked high and low but cannot seem to find a definitive answer so to what to do.
Basically I have a Samsung S3 which about 5 months ago I rooted to enable me to use any network. Basically O2 who I used to have a contract with messed up somehow and on their records they could not find a IMEI number and so couldn't unlock, I was going round in circles and as I was moving abroad I had no other option.
Everything went fine and it is only now that I would like to update the OS to its latest version that when I go to the settings and update it says something about having a modified firmware (I think, another story altogether but I now broke the screen and so waiting for a replacement to fix it).
My questions are:
Will I ever be able to update normally via the settings menu again?
What is the latest stable Android update that I could use? KitKat?
Where is the best place to source the most recent Android distributions?
Basically I am just looking for a bit of advice on how to go about keeping my phone up to date with the latest features. I am not really interested in adding hacked functionality etc at this point.
Thanks
If you unlocked your phone using the 'free' methods then updating to the latest rom will return the network lock or corrupt your efs folder, depending on how the unlock was achieved.
You can't use ota updates as you've modified your phone.
Sammobile is where you obtain the latest rom.
Also, questions go the q&a forum and all the above information is posted many times.
Sorry for the wrong forum post.
So to be clear if I want to update I need to go to manually update the phone. Is this via kies or will it be more complex as my phone is now rooted / modded.?
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bmouthboyo said:
Sorry for the wrong forum post.
So to be clear if I want to update I need to go to manually update the phone. Is this via kies or will it be more complex as my phone is now rooted / modded.?
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As said, you wont get any updates via OTA if your phone is rooted,
Go to Sammobile.com, find the latest UK / Europe (BTU) generic rom it will be the version ending MJ9.
Download Odin and Guide here
Flash the rom using Odin, doing this will remove root access, once you have installed the rom, enter recovery mode and clear Cache / Dalvik Cache then factory reset (be aware this will wipe your phone and internal storage so copy any files to your PC first)
Boot the phone and set it up, then go to software updates on your phone and update the MJ9 version to MK6,
Now your phone will be fully stock and get OTA updates in the future plus you will have the generic UK and Europe firmware version (BTU) Android 4.3.
Thank you so much, that is a nice clear guide
My last question is if people think it's good to update to 4.3 now? I read the UK was having issues with it?
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bmouthboyo said:
Thank you so much, that is a nice clear guide
My last question is if people think it's good to update to 4.3 now? I read the UK was having issues with it?
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No wait for the next full build .
Read the faqs and guides as you wait .
Had a good read about, thanks for that.
Does anyone know or hazard a guess when next official jellybean release may be? Do they run on development cycles, or is this more an advice patch?
Any ideas on if update coming soon that is good idea to flash with?
Also if I install a new ROM I know everything is wiped, is there a way I can back up all my whatsapp convocations etc? Or will I need to install all the apps a fresh? Ie can I restore the phone as is now or will it be a case of each app installed from scratch?
Thanks so much for help so far, think I will update today.
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Any ideas on if update coming soon that is good idea to flash with?
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Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc
bmouthboyo said:
Also if I install a new ROM I know everything is wiped, is there a way I can back up all my whatsapp convocations etc? Or will I need to install all the apps a fresh? Ie can I restore the phone as is now or will it be a case of each app installed from scratch?
Thanks so much for help so far, think I will update today.
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If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.
The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
ag4751 said:
Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc
If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.
The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
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Factory reset will not wipe the internal sd card. So if u back up whatsapp conversations without ext sd card, factory reset will not wipe it.
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ag4751 said:
Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc
If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.
The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
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Thanks for that, I am downloading that ROM now.
When you say stock ROM, I did not go to a custom one but I did root my phone to allow it to be region free. I still get the O2 splash screen etc, so is it safe to say it is still stock and I can simply flash the new ROM without a factory reset?
bmouthboyo said:
Thanks for that, I am downloading that ROM now.
When you say stock ROM, I did not go to a custom one but I did root my phone to allow it to be region free. I still get the O2 splash screen etc, so is it safe to say it is still stock and I can simply flash the new ROM without a factory reset?
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Yes, my phone was Stock o2 when I got it in May 2012, first thing I did was flash the Generic BTU firmware to get rid on o2 stuff, I have never had to do a Factory reset nor wipe Cache, Dalvik Cache on my phone, it has always been rooted and apart for the MJ9 issues that Samsung had late last year it has worked fine, no lag, no random reboots, no freezing.
If you don't root you will get OTA updates, if you root you wont but you can still use Kies or Sammobile to update to any latest version releases, the factory reset will wipe pictures, music and your app data from your internal storage so if you back them up to your PC before a Factory reset you can replace them afterwards, but if you have not had any custom roms on your phone the need for a factory reset would be highly unlikely.
That's great, all went well today with the MK6 update listed above. I now see there is a MK7 update for jellybean from Israel. Worth going to this?
bmouthboyo said:
That's great, all went well today with the MK6 update listed above. I now see there is a MK7 update for jellybean from Israel. Worth going to this?
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Choice on that is yours really.
Just because there is a higher number version doesn’t mean its an update from what you have unless it is based on the same version (eg BTU) if you have BTU MK6 and there was a BTU MK7 then that is an upgrade.
Where Isreal has MK7, India has ML4 this generally relates to how long and how many attempts they have in getting that country specific version ready for release, not an upgraded version of MK6.
You need to ensure that the rom you do install has multi CSC’s otherwise you could end up with no network signal or data.

[Q] Removing Root to do OTA Lolipop?

As per the title, I read something somewhere to the effect that from here on out, OTA updates will fail on most phones if they have been rooted, and this seems to be true for the Z Ultra GPE. So, what changed when I rooted my phone, and how do I undo it so that I can do the OTA update? I have looked through the forum, but nobody seems to answer it. I am rooted with Supersu using the Towelroot method. I am hoping to not have to unlock the bootloader or anything, just want to do this the official way. (I did backup my TA partition though).
jeraldjunkmail said:
As per the title, I read something somewhere to the effect that from here on out, OTA updates will fail on most phones if they have been rooted, and this seems to be true for the Z Ultra GPE. So, what changed when I rooted my phone, and how do I undo it so that I can do the OTA update? I have looked through the forum, but nobody seems to answer it. I am rooted with Supersu using the Towelroot method. I am hoping to not have to unlock the bootloader or anything, just want to do this the official way. (I did backup my TA partition though).
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If your GPe is rooted only, the OTA should install just fine. If you made any system changes, you'll need to revert those though. I ran the OTA while I was rooted and didn't have any problems.
Visa Declined said:
If your GPe is rooted only, the OTA should install just fine. If you made any system changes, you'll need to revert those though. I ran the OTA while I was rooted and didn't have any problems.
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Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
jeraldjunkmail said:
Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
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well at the moment that doesn't effect the GPe, and may never. There will have to be a system image flashed to put the block device in a known state before the new way could ever be used, and if there is a system.img we can always flash that to get the OTA to work... no big deal I don't think.
jeraldjunkmail said:
Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
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First of all, BGR is a garbage site, and I wouldn't believe anything they say, ever. Second, that article is talking about avoiding root AFTER Lollipop is installed.
Having root will not cause the OTA to fail. If your OTA is failing, it's because you made a system change on your device.
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If you were using Xposed, then that is more than likely why your OTA is failing.
What is Xposed? How would I check to see if it has affected my device? Only thing I did was Towelroot and running SuperSU. I may have done something to allow writing to the external SD card, but forget how I did that. I was intentionally trying to keep this phone basically stock so that it would easily update to Lolipop. I did a Titanium backup to the externalSD card and reset it to factory and the OTA update still fails though. I assume this was due to the fact that I rooted it. The bootloader is still unmodified, secureboot is still green - yes, lock state is locked. Only other thing I can think of is I installed an app that allowed me to set permissions by app (turn off location settings by app, etc) Sorry I can't give any more details than that...
jeraldjunkmail said:
I may have done something to allow writing to the external SD card, but forget how I did that.
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jeraldjunkmail said:
Only other thing I can think of is I installed an app that allowed me to set permissions by app (turn off location settings by app, etc) Sorry I can't give any more details than that...
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If you can't figure out what system change you made to your phone, just factory reset it, and run the OTA again. There was multiple people(me included) that took the OTA successfully, our phones were rooted and SuperSU was installed.
Visa Declined said:
If you can't figure out what system change you made to your phone, just factory reset it, and run the OTA again. There was multiple people(me included) that took the OTA successfully, our phones were rooted and SuperSU was installed.
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As mentioned before, I factory reset this and wiped the cache from the stock recovery mode. Update won't take, stops shortly after it fails with "system update error". Since my last reset (been done a few times) it won't prompt me to get the OTA update, after my last reset last night. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
{Damn thing won't work... (*&^&%^$$#}
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As mentioned before, I factory reset this and wiped the cache from the stock recovery mode. Update won't take, stops shortly after it fails with "system update error". Since my last reset (been done a few times) it won't prompt me to get the OTA update, after my last reset last night. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
{Damn thing won't work... (*&^&%^$$#}
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The only fail-safe way I can see is to:
root
back up TA
unlock BL
hotboot custom kernel with recovery
flash 4.4.2
OTA to 4.4.3
OTA to 4.4.4
root and restore TA if you want a working camera
OTA to 5.0
blueether said:
The only fail-safe way I can see is to:
root
back up TA
unlock BL
hotboot custom kernel with recovery
flash 4.4.2
OTA to 4.4.3
OTA to 4.4.4
root and restore TA if you want a working camera
OTA to 5.0
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As often happens, I sometimes see a solution I don't care to implement and begin to procrastinate. So, haven't looked at this problem for a while. I may have found the solution to my problems, but want to know if anyone has experience with it before proceeding. I re-installed superSU and went through the options. Buried in the options list is a box that offers "Full unroot, Cleanup for permanent unroot". What happens when I do this? does it just remove superSU or does it restore the phone back to factory status, before it was rooted? Thanks!
PS: @ blueether the solution is fine and I am sure it would work (I was going to go ahead with it until I saw that option in superSU), but have been hesitant to unlock the bootloader, etc, due to my unfamiliarity with hacking Sony products, and only want to do it as a last, final, no other option solution. Thanks for your help!
jeraldjunkmail said:
As often happens, I sometimes see a solution I don't care to implement and begin to procrastinate. So, haven't looked at this problem for a while. I may have found the solution to my problems, but want to know if anyone has experience with it before proceeding. I re-installed superSU and went through the options. Buried in the options list is a box that offers "Full unroot, Cleanup for permanent unroot". What happens when I do this? does it just remove superSU or does it restore the phone back to factory status, before it was rooted? Thanks!
PS: @ blueether the solution is fine and I am sure it would work (I was going to go ahead with it until I saw that option in superSU), but have been hesitant to unlock the bootloader, etc, due to my unfamiliarity with hacking Sony products, and only want to do it as a last, final, no other option solution. Thanks for your help!
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That's fine and I take no offence at you not wanting to unlock the BL.
I haven't tried the full unroot option in supersu so I'm not sure what the outcome is. One of the other GPe users care to comment?
Well, turns out that the solution to unrooting the phone is to install superSU and than look inthe settings. It will offer you an option to completely uninstall root. It did what it says, and than you can check it with a check root app from the market. It reports that the phone is not rooted. Now the question is, will it pick up the OTA update... No luck with that after a clean factory reset, so not sure what to do next.
2 questions: If I unrooted my phone, and it says it is unrooted, is this true, in the fullest extent? Does towelroot do anything more than adding some permissions ans the superuser file?
If the phone won't pick up the OTA update, why? What went wrong?
Thanks!
jeraldjunkmail said:
Well, turns out that the solution to unrooting the phone is to install superSU and than look inthe settings. It will offer you an option to completely uninstall root. It did what it says, and than you can check it with a check root app from the market. It reports that the phone is not rooted. Now the question is, will it pick up the OTA update... No luck with that after a clean factory reset, so not sure what to do next.
2 questions: If I unrooted my phone, and it says it is unrooted, is this true, in the fullest extent? Does towelroot do anything more than adding some permissions ans the superuser file?
If the phone won't pick up the OTA update, why? What went wrong?
Thanks!
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It sounds like the OTA is not being pushed at the moment/anymore. You could copy it to there the recovery can see it and manually install it
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It sounds like the OTA is not being pushed at the moment/anymore. You could copy it to there the recovery can see it and manually install it
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Can you point me inthe right direction for instructions on this process? Thanks!
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First of all, BGR is a garbage site, and I wouldn't believe anything they say, ever. Second, that article is talking about avoiding root AFTER Lollipop is installed.
Having root will not cause the OTA to fail. If your OTA is failing, it's because you made a system change on your device.
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Your post is two years ago but i think you can help me,there is a new update for my phone and i am rooted i also have xposed installed so this mean i cannot update my sytem? Do i need to uninstall xposed? Im on stock rom and with TWRP recovery it would be a big help if you reply thanks.

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