CWM + Siyah 4.1 w/ mic swap + JB - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

Hey Guys,
I have been reading a few threads but I am a bit confused (to say the least). I am trying to get the following questions answered
1a) Siyah 4.1 Kernel - Does this also do CWM? I got to Siyah based on creepnyncrawley's thread on doing CWM using Siyah but am now stuck with #1b below
1b) Siyah 4.1 Kernel only has a w/ mswap option. Per what I read this should be used only if we use I9100 ROMS. Can someone confirm/deny this? Also, is there a without mswap Kernel available
2) Jellybean - Being that I am still new to this any idea as to when we will get a stable jellybean build. The rationale being that as I am new to this I want to ensure that I use something stable so as to not brick the phone etc.
As said earlier - I have tried reading through things but admit to being a noob at this. Hope I am not asking folks to waste a lot of time
Thanks
TSP

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theSilentProwler said:
Hey Guys,
I have been reading a few threads but I am a bit confused (to say the least). I am trying to get the following questions answered
1a) Siyah 4.1 Kernel - Does this also do CWM? I got to Siyah based on creepnyncrawley's thread on doing CWM using Siyah but am now stuck with #1b below
1b) Siyah 4.1 Kernel only has a w/ mswap option. Per what I read this should be used only if we use I9100 ROMS. Can someone confirm/deny this? Also, is there a without mswap Kernel available
2) Jellybean - Being that I am still new to this any idea as to when we will get a stable jellybean build. The rationale being that as I am new to this I want to ensure that I use something stable so as to not brick the phone etc.
As said earlier - I have tried reading through things but admit to being a noob at this. Hope I am not asking folks to waste a lot of time
Thanks
TSP
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1. No. just leave it how it is. changing recovery inside the kernel is not for noobs. our device is different from the rest.
b. mic swap/ no mic swap. one is for touchjizz and the other is for AOSP and yes, both are available.
stay away from the i9100 forums untill you know exactly what your doing. While these are similar devices, they are very much different.
2. ETA's are frowned on, asking for them even more so.
stable ROM has nothing to do with bricking. JB is stable for most. but still very much so under development.
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In a horrible mood. FML. But im gonna be nice today o.0

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To add more info, Siyah kernel includes CWM already, all custom kernels for I777 include CWM; it's in fact the only way to get CWM onto your phone. An additional warning: do not try to update/change CWM separately, as it's built into the kernel.
If I'm not mistaken, all custom ICS and JB ROMs are I9100 based, hence the need for mic swap/no mic swap. At least, Samsung-based ones are, not sure about AOSP/AOKP. And if you flash the wrong one, no big deal, your phone won't brick or anything, you just will sound very quiet to callers and you'll know you need to switch.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong in any way.

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theSilentProwler said:
Hey Guys,
I have been reading a few threads but I am a bit confused (to say the least). I am trying to get the following questions answered
1a) Siyah 4.1 Kernel - Does this also do CWM? I got to Siyah based on creepnyncrawley's thread on doing CWM using Siyah but am now stuck with #1b below
1b) Siyah 4.1 Kernel only has a w/ mswap option. Per what I read this should be used only if we use I9100 ROMS. Can someone confirm/deny this? Also, is there a without mswap Kernel available
2) Jellybean - Being that I am still new to this any idea as to when we will get a stable jellybean build. The rationale being that as I am new to this I want to ensure that I use something stable so as to not brick the phone etc.
As said earlier - I have tried reading through things but admit to being a noob at this. Hope I am not asking folks to waste a lot of time
Thanks
TSP
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1a) includes cwm.
1b) this will work with all current i777 jb ROMS since they're all aosp based.
2) CyanogenMod 10 (cm10) is stable enough for daily duty for most people and will definitely not brick your phone. Any instability you'll see will be in the form of battery drain, random reboots..that type of stuff. Not phone bricking instability. My advice is to try it. If you're one of the unlucky ones that has problems with freezes or battery drain then it's simple enough to flash back to something else. Either way, as long as you're following directions and flashing stuff made for your phone you will not brick your phone. The CyanogenMod team do excellent work and our maintainer, Entropy512 has put out a very good JB firmware.
My personal daily driver is cm10 with Siyah 4.1.1. I couldn't be happier compared to any ICS based roms.

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I think the previous two posters have said it very well. I just want to add a couple of points on JB.
Since you are still new at this, perhaps you want to stick with ICS for now. JB roms for our phones, i believe, still have some kinks that need to be worked out, because, as i understand it (please correct me if I'm saying something dumb) Samsung has yet to release source code for certain key pieces devs need to build "native" jb roms for the 777. So, all else being equal, ics roms are more mature.
If you do stay with ics roms, you don't need to install Siyah 4.x, you can use Siyah 3.x with no problems. Siyah 4.x was created to add jb support, which you don't need if you stick with ics. The first post in Ktoonsez's Siyah thread will tell you which version you need (mic swap or not) depending on which rom you use...most roms, if not all, will already have the correct kernel built in.

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oh yea, siyah does have a version of CWM huh. Always forget that its still CWM.
I was thinking OP wanted to change the version/style.
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karate104 said:
If I'm not mistaken, all custom ICS and JB ROMs are I9100 based, hence the need for mic swap/no mic swap. At least, Samsung-based ones are, not sure about AOSP/AOKP.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong in any way.
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Your wrong. Crap in the ported section is from i9100.
android development is from source, or ours.
Mic swap has nothing to do with i777 or i9100. AOSP ROM's need a mic swap for the way the code is.

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MotoMudder77 said:
oh yea, siyah does have a version of CWM huh. Always forget that its still CWM.
I was thinking OP wanted to change the version/style.
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Your wrong. Crap in the ported section is from i9100.
android development is from source, or ours.
Mic swap has nothing to do with i777 or i9100. AOSP ROM's need a mic swap for the way the code is.
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You're probably right about the mic swap, but you misunderstood what I meant about ICS and JB ROM bases.
What I meant is that the Original Development section houses ROMs that use an I9100 base, but are built for the I777 (Ported Development contains I9100 ROMs that have only been hellraised and are otherwise built for I9100). For example, ShoStock uses XWLPT- 4.0.4 as its base. That's obviously I9100, since there aren't any 4.0.4 stock bases for I777. The only ROM I'm aware of that uses an I777 ICS base is Semi, it uses the stock UCLE5 base. But these rules seem to only apply to Samsung based ROMs, and I have no idea how AOSP ones work. Can someone else clarify? I'm really starting to get confused now.

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He Guys,
I have not gone AWOL on you. Have read the thread but have not been close to my PC to act on suggestions
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda app-developers app

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karate104 said:
To add more info, Siyah kernel includes CWM already, all custom kernels for I777 include CWM; it's in fact the only way to get CWM onto your phone. An additional warning: do not try to update/change CWM separately, as it's built into the kernel.
If I'm not mistaken, all custom ICS and JB ROMs are I9100 based, hence the need for mic swap/no mic swap. At least, Samsung-based ones are, not sure about AOSP/AOKP. And if you flash the wrong one, no big deal, your phone won't brick or anything, you just will sound very quiet to callers and you'll know you need to switch.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong in any way.
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I forget exactly what I was doing a few days ago. I installed AOKP JB on friday as my secondary ROM. Running Siyah 4.1.1 I had JB as seconary, and stock ICS as primary. When calling from STOCK ICS, I was very quiet, like I was down a hallway from the phone. That is when I found out about service mode and all that. Ultimately though, tuning noise suppression on or off (I can't remember which completely fixed the way I sounded, but it's an in-call toggle so you can test it easy. Then after that I swapped ROMS to that stock was secondary, and JB was primary. Everything was fine except when plugging in aux cable in car, I had to crank car volume up because phone was really low. There are other threads about that particular issue, but I never ran into it until then. So, all this to say, mic-swap might not be that big of a deal with two roms. I'm a noob, so all I can do is speculate.

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DSTG said:
I forget exactly what I was doing a few days ago. I installed AOKP JB on friday as my secondary ROM. Running Siyah 4.1.1 I had JB as seconary, and stock ICS as primary. When calling from STOCK ICS, I was very quiet, like I was down a hallway from the phone. That is when I found out about service mode and all that. Ultimately though, tuning noise suppression on or off (I can't remember which completely fixed the way I sounded, but it's an in-call toggle so you can test it easy. Then after that I swapped ROMS to that stock was secondary, and JB was primary. Everything was fine except when plugging in aux cable in car, I had to crank car volume up because phone was really low. There are other threads about that particular issue, but I never ran into it until then. So, all this to say, mic-swap might not be that big of a deal with two roms. I'm a noob, so all I can do is speculate.
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Its extremely obvious, you sounded far becauze you are using MIC SWAP! Mic swap on stock ics means the mic where you would normally talk gets swapped with the noise cancelling mic. Just my 2cents+common sense

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j510 said:
Its extremely obvious, you sounded far becauze you are using MIC SWAP! Mic swap on stock ics means the mic where you would normally talk gets swapped with the noise cancelling mic. Just my 2cents+common sense
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Yeah you can't use stock rom and AOSP rom without sounding far in one of them.

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FYI.. I am currently trying Cyanogen 10 build. So far so good. Thanks for the help. Please close the thread if need be

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Works pretty good with Shostock2