So was at the mall yesterday with a friend, she has an inspire on at&t i went to download a new game on my phone from the market the game was 20mb i was downloading it for like 20 mins and she downloaded it in like 2mins i was like wtf... Why is the sprint network so so slow? I was doing speed tests with almost full signal and was getting like 70kb
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At&t has the fastest network, but they charge crazy amounts for overages.
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Coverage differ eveywhere, speed is affect by tower load and backhaul, more users per tower, slower you get, so probably the sprint tower was serving more customer than ATT?
ATT 3G (which is also their psuedo 4G) is faster than sprint's 3G base on the technology, HSDPA vs CMDA/EVDO
i bet you weren't using the 4G right? if you can get a decent 4G signal then the speed should be comparable, but being inside a mall, unless the mall is right next to the tower.... hard to get a decent signal
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At&t has the fastest network, but they charge crazy amounts for overages.
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VZW 4G is fastest, even faster than ATT HSDPA
I thought I saw Verizon scoring the highest.. but you maybe right.
I wasnt on 4g just 3g, me and her both were outside the mall when downloading, so ur saying her 3g is actually 4g?
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From what I understand ATT has the fastest speed if and when you can get a slot on the tower--they are much better at this part than they were a year ago.
Verizon has middle of the road speed and expansive coverage.
Sprint has decent enough coverage and good roaming agreements, not over-saturated towers and WAS considerably faster than Verizon--until the EVO4G came out last year. I could actually notice my speeds dropping from day to day. They bottomed out 4 or 5 months ago and are stuck where they are...
Keep in mind this also changes based on time of day and population density and your data speed will be proportionate to your signal strength for the most part. If your buddy with ATT had full bars and you had almost none it doesn't matter whose phone or network is the fastest. Though I hear CDMA and GSM handle this differently I'm not so sure about that.
Even though with only 1/4 bar on my NS4G I get 1.5mbps in my apartment...the E3D went back primarily cuz its radios sucked for stability and performance. Hell, on my E4G I traded in yesterday I got 2.1mbps with 3/6 bars. The E3D couldn't touch that.
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I wasnt on 4g just 3g, me and her both were outside the mall when downloading, so ur saying her 3g is actually 4g?
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You likely weren't even on 3g, probably down to 1x, stock software wont show the difference though. Sprint's network blows in most places but I have faith that it'll get better.
I say stick with Sprint, they are adopting new technologies quicker than verizon and at&t. But speaking of 3g speed, at&t has the fastest but spotty coverage, then comes verizon with fast speed, excellent coverage, and t-mobile and sprint tied for third with ok speed and coverage. But I hear t-mobile's 3g speeds have been getting better with their introduction of 4g.
All in all, hopefully by 2012, sprint's standard 3g speeds will be better
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I wasnt on 4g just 3g, me and her both were outside the mall when downloading, so ur saying her 3g is actually 4g?
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for NOW, what AT&T call is 4G is actually faster version of their 3G tech same as Tmobile, which is HSPA+, AT&T won't BEGIN roll out their actual 4G LTE network until LATE this year.
Notice 4G LTE is the Tech Verizon have ALREADY deployed.
Early test with the not yet congested VZW 4G LTE show ACTUAL speeds download AND UPLOAD upward of 20mbps
AT&T's HSPA+ is MAX 14mbps, most day to day use see speed between 3-10mbps.
Tmo's HSPA+ is MAX 42mbps, most day to day use see speed about 10mbps.
Sprint and VZW's 3G is EVDO, that MAX out in day to day use about 2mbps, VZW on average is faster than Sprint, maybe about 200kbps-300kbps difference.
Sprint's 4G is WiMax, fastest i've seen is about 12mbps, usually more like 3-6mbps. so to have a chance to catch your friend's AT&T's speed, you need to have 4G on.
drawback of 4G Wimax and LTE... current generation chips suck battery juice super quick, our EVO 3D can be drain in 3-5hours of 4G usage
Pro of 4G Wimax and LTE, alot more spectrum/frequency efficient on the carrier's side, they can have more capacity in the same spectrum. Note that this is a mostly a Pro for the carrier and mostly a NULL factor to end users.
vice versa a CON of ATT/Tmo HSPA+ 3G/Psuedo 4G... they need more spectrum/frequency to acheive same capacity as 4G Wimax/LTE
Just the point that the signal with my 3d really sucks where ever i go, i dont know if its a hardware issue or a software issue, i dont wanna be stuck with a phone that gets horrible signal all the time, so should i take it back or keep it and hoping an update fixes the radios?
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Just the point that the signal with my 3d really sucks where ever i go, i dont know if its a hardware issue or a software issue, i dont wanna be stuck with a phone that gets horrible signal all the time, so should i take it back or keep it and hoping an update fixes the radios?
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I'm with ya man. I did both. If this gets fixed (and we get unlocked) I'll be back. But until then I'm rocking a NexusS4G with a crappy Samsung radio that is somehow more reliable than the 3D's radio--just sayin'.
It has everything to do with where you are. I am in Miami/South Miami/Coconut Grove, FL and Sprint dominates ATT and Verizon. The blackberry bold I have on Verizon from work is essentially worthless in a shocking amount of popular/urban places. The Droid X I had before the bb was equally as bad. It is so bad I have to shell out my own money for a sprint phone to get decent service.
I always figured Verizon had blanket coverage everywhere since they market it so well but their coverage where I am is really poor. Of course if you call them, they act shocked and reference their map that shows dense coverage.
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Well what do yall think of the radio issue, will it be fixed with a software update or should i return it? Because im going from 5 bars one second to one or none the next, need some help here
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Coverage differ eveywhere, speed is affect by tower load and backhaul, more users per tower, slower you get, so probably the sprint tower was serving more customer than ATT?
ATT 3G (which is also their psuedo 4G) is faster than sprint's 3G base on the technology, HSDPA vs CMDA/EVDO
i bet you weren't using the 4G right? if you can get a decent 4G signal then the speed should be comparable, but being inside a mall, unless the mall is right next to the tower.... hard to get a decent signal
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Its sad that AT&T's 3.5G HSDPA is faster than Wimax. I have a company AT&T phone and it's way faster than my Evo.
AT&T is more expensive but I'm still attached to my OG Evo. Hopefully Sprint catches up.
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Hopefully Sprint catches up.
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Welcome to Sprint! I see you've already learned their motto..
I don't know what's up with this phones reception or data speeds. It Sux! I mean for phone reception, I get 2 less bars everywhere I go and for data I'm getting barley .5 mb when used to always get about .9 with og EVO.
Besides these issues the phone is top notch. I'm still have a couple of weeks to take it back, but I really don't want to. Hopefully these issues can be worked out soon.
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I don't know what's up with this phones reception or data speeds. It Sux! I mean for phone reception, I get 2 less bars everywhere I go and for data I'm getting barley .5 mb when used to always get about .9 with og EVO.
Besides these issues the phone is top notch. I'm still have a couple of weeks to take it back, but I really don't want to. Hopefully these issues can be worked out soon.
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I totally agree with you, if they dont fix the reception issues and data speeds im gonna have to take this thing back, not because i want to but im not gonna tolerate 1 bar at my house where i should be getting full and 50kb data speeds which is absolutely pathetic, they need to release an update to fix this issue right away, htc has really upset me with this phone
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Welcome to Sprint! I see you've already learned their motto..
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"Welcome to Sprint, the not right NOW network."
I had a bad signal too, changed the PRL in QPST to a USCellular (15110) and have great coverage ever since When I called Sprint for my MSL, I told the tech that I was planning on changing the PRL due to a bad signal, he said "that's a great idea"
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Hows the tethering for you guys on sprint since I hear that the sprint service is subpar, I'm currently on tmo an have a nexus s an just got a text saying I had reached my data cap so they slow down my data, an I use my tether a lot on my laptop, so I come her to ask how the tethering is for you guys an if I do come to sprint I will be picking up a evo 3d most likely...
My tethering is just fine If I recall correctly I get 150-350kbs on 3g.
Just tried 4g and pulled 3.5Mb. I have seen up to 6Mb.
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My tethering is just fine If I recall correctly I get 150-350kbs on 3g.
Just tried 4g and pulled 3.5Mb. I have seen up to 6Mb.
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That's all you are getting on 3g? How bad is your signal? I consistently pull around 1 to 1.1Mb on 3g.. There are some tweaks that you can apply to boost your speed.. Check the developer section.
**edit** Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140870
That is bad I get 1.2 on my phone 1.4 tethering my tab and computer
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I haven't ran a speed test but when I 4g tether to my laptop it loads everything (including youtube) as fast as my 10mb/s home broadband.
So is their service as bad as people say?
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So is they service as bad as people say?
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Depends where you are. At work I get about 1000 down, at home around 500-700. I get a about 5000 down on 4G but only outside with a weak signal.
I can drive from metro west MA to Central NH and be connected 3G the whole way with varying data rates !! Pretty impressive.
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So is they service as bad as people say?
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No its not, coming from vzw I have had no issue with Sprint. I'm also in the metrowest MA area. And you roam on vzw free!
I searched and couldn't find the answer to this, possibly because it's a stupid question, but here goes. THE Amaze with 48 hspa, does it receive faster data speeds while using Wi-Fi? Or does that only translate to cellular speeds?
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I searched and couldn't find the answer to this, possibly because it's a stupid question, but here goes. THE Amaze with 48 hspa, does it receive faster data speeds while using Wi-Fi? Or does that only translate to cellular speeds?
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Cellular data. Is it faster than wifi? Depends on your internet provider.
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I searched and couldn't find the answer to this, possibly because it's a stupid question, but here goes. THE Amaze with 48 hspa, does it receive faster data speeds while using Wi-Fi? Or does that only translate to cellular speeds?
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No, wifi is the same. 4g is faster than other phones - when you are in 4g coverage.
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No, wifi is the same. 4g is faster than other phones - when you are in 4g coverage.
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Here in the Vancouver area I don't know if we actually have 4G coverage (although my 4G icon seems to think so) but there is no question that my wifi connection is faster than my data connection. Waaaaaay faster than my Hero was on wifi. Don't know if that's because the Hero was only "g" whereas the Amaze is "n." When I'm connected through wifi most apps are downloaded and installed practically instantly.
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Here in the Vancouver area I don't know if we actually have 4G coverage (although my 4G icon seems to think so) but there is no question that my wifi connection is faster than my data connection. Waaaaaay faster than my Hero was on wifi. Don't know if that's because the Hero was only "g" whereas the Amaze is "n." When I'm connected through wifi most apps are downloaded and installed practically instantly.
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Here in Soviet Russia... Man is faster than 4g!
I'm jk but yes, the hardware for the amaze is better for wifi and cellular data then some of the older models. The op was asking about the hardware relating to cellular data though, which is not related to wifi. But as binary mention it depends on your isp and strength of your router. The g and n doesnt really give you faster download speed, but the difference in signal strength does. g and n gives you faster data transfer between devices connected to the network.
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Anyone else's phone saying CDMA - eHRPD under network status? Trying to figure out what it means. I do know that eHRPD is what is responsible for 3g 4g handoff. Anyone else seeing this?
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Anyone else's phone saying CDMA - eHRPD under network status? Trying to figure out what it means. I do know that eHRPD is what is responsible for 3g 4g handoff. Anyone else seeing this?
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I've got CDMA EvDo rev. A
But I am also set to CDMA only - who am I kidding, I'll never see LTE.
Have you checked your data speeds?
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Yep, slow. 128 down and double up stream
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I've been seeing it since I first got the phone.
hanced High Rate Packet Data (eHRPD). eHRPD is an enhancement of 1xEV-DO (AKA HRPD) that enables LTE to CDMA handover
Found the answer here http://www.lte.tmworld.com/ate/what-does-ehrpd-stand-and-why-it-important-lte
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Moved to QA since this is a question....
Thanks for pointing this out. Mine also says CDMA - eHRPD
I live near Traverse City Michigan, actually about 10 mile out of town and at home I have 4G service, I also have high speed (WiFi) internet at home too so I don't 'need' 4G there so to speak but I'm not complaining. In TC where I work all I'm seeing is the eHRPD displayed most of the time, once in a while it will change to EVDO; and on those very rare cases if I;m not yawning I will see 4G but it maybe will last a few seconds. I was complaining to my son about them (Sprint) having 4G service out of town (south of TC) but not in town and he suggested they had fewer users out there and didn't have to have the capacity there that they would need in town. I know I don't think like a phone company but to my mind I would want to get service going in the larger community first then 'worry' about the out lying areas later. For me it's kind of frustrating because while I am at work my co-workers that have Verizon & AT&T service both have the 4G service and can watch streaming videos or anything else while with my Sprint service I am waiting for it to load, thank you Sprint for the slow service.
This may be a lame question, but if 4G becomes active in my area, is there anything i need to do? or will the 4G notification just turn on when a signal is detected?
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This may be a lame question, but if 4G becomes active in my area, is there anything i need to do? or will the 4G notification just turn on when a signal is detected?
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Its not lame, its how you learn. In theory, no.
There are settings for CDMA and LTE under the mobile networks area so assuming you are set to CDMA / LTE, running stock and you are close enough to a LTE tower you should switch to LTE automatically. If you search there are a number of tweaks and additional settings also available in case you aren't successful.
If you never change your mobile network mode from cdma/lte in your settings then it should automatically connect if you ever get lte in your city.
The above posters answered the question, but if you would like to know more about when LTE might be available in your area head on over to www.s4gru.com
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The above posters answered the question, but if you would like to know more about when LTE might be available in your area head on over to www.s4gru.com
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so i don't really know alot about the CDMA/LTE stuff... but on the original Evo the 4G was on the CDMA network correct? The New EVO just has 4G on the LTE network? Meaning if i was able to pick up 4G in my area with the original EVO i won't be able to get 4G with my new EVO LTE until they add LTE in the area?
am I understanding this correct?
Correct, 4g was on the wimax network, now 4g is lte. Wimax is still available, it will eventually be phased out.
That sucks... I live in bumf so doubt I'll have LTE anytime soon... But at least this phone is still awesome
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