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Ok so I've been reading these forums and time after time I see posts about the evo 3d being slow and the gs2 just being a beast..am I missing something bc last I checked the 3d hasn't been released yet and the only review I saw was on wirefly the 3d looked very impressive to me. No indication of lag or slow down? I still believe in HTC..I don't think they would release a ****ty or out classed phone..not saying the gs2 isn't sick but I just don't see what makes it so much better..I've seen a lot of quality/screen issues on their forums..
i think the lag they are seeing is based on the governors operation of the a sync cores but there is no doubt that the gs2 is faster
I just don't know how that can be said without the phone being released yet..no one has used it..I think it solely based on the benchmarks which are inaccurate based in the a sync cores..even a gs2 fan can't deny that..
firmbiz94 said:
I just don't know how that can be said without the phone being released yet..no one has used it..I think it solely based on the benchmarks which are inaccurate based in the a sync cores..even a gs2 fan can't deny that..
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People are basing it on the sensation reviews because they think its the same phone when its not wirefly said it was super fast and smooth so we will see
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I sure hope the EVO-3D is on par with the Galaxy S 2 smoothness and lag free, because the Sensation reviews sure make it seem choppy, and just an average phone, nothing spectacular.
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Specs are similar. If it is laggy it may be software related. But I don't for see any issues.
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Specs are similar. If it is laggy it may be software related. But I don't for see any issues.
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Correct with those specs. It should fly..I think the devs will make it ridiculous with a slick custom Rom and a oc kernel
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I think GS2 is out in Europe already. Saw a video of it on Phonedog youtube channel.
For some reason people are thinking that this phone is the same as the Sensation even though they are 2 different phones.What they are thinking is: So since the sensation has lag the evo 3d must have lag too. When in reality nobody will know until more reviews hit.
I'm pretty sure any of us prior Evo4G owners are going to be quite happy with the performance of the new Qualcomm dual in here, increase in RAM, Adreno 220 GPU (YES!) and higher screen res. I can't wait for this phone. I love Samsung displays, but I really am not a fan of their handsets for some reason.
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I think GS2 is out in Europe already. Saw a video of it on Phonedog youtube channel.
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It's been out for weeks
aaronpoweruser said:
i think the lag they are seeing is based on the governors operation of the a sync cores but there is no doubt that the gs2 is faster
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What lag? I've watched every video i can and I've never seen lag. no doubt the gs2 is faster? Evo 3D isn't even out yet, not sure you can make a claim like that. (but i think the E3D will beat the gs2 in the end)
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What lag? I've watched every video i can and I've never seen lag. no doubt the gs2 is faster? Evo 3D isn't even out yet, not sure you can make a claim like that. (but i think the E3D will beat the gs2 in the end)
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Just because the phone isn't out does not mean nobody has EVER used it.
If you do some research you will see people that have used BOTH phones and side by side the GS2 is SIGNIFICANTLY faster in all of the benchmark apps out there. I know that does not mean much, and it is not to say that the EVO 3D will be slow or laggy, but the GS2 *IS* going to be faster stock.
I believe once the EVO 3D gets rooted and we are able to overclock and remove the bloatware it definitely has the potential to outperform the GS2 assuming that the Samsung doesn't get as much development support as HTC phones get. I am getting the EVO 3D, but I am not expecting it to perform like a GS2.
No video says the sgs 2 is faster then the evo 3d there only against the sensation which is not the same phone
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Just because the phone isn't out does not mean nobody has EVER used it.
If you do some research you will see people that have used BOTH phones and side by side the GS2 is SIGNIFICANTLY faster in all of the benchmark apps out there. I know that does not mean much, and it is not to say that the EVO 3D will be slow or laggy, but the GS2 *IS* going to be faster stock.
I believe once the EVO 3D gets rooted and we are able to overclock and remove the bloatware it definitely has the potential to outperform the GS2 assuming that the Samsung doesn't get as much development support as HTC phones get. I am getting the EVO 3D, but I am not expecting it to perform like a GS2.
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One word: sense
Two words: new sense
Two more words: is bloated
That is all
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No video says the sgs 2 is faster then the evo 3d there only against the sensation which is not the same phone
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The only difference between the Sensation and the EVO 3D that will affect performance is 768 RAM vs 1 GB.
I asked bob at wirefly if there was any lag at all he said no and said its faster then the sensation
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The only difference between the Sensation and the EVO 3D that will affect performance is 768 RAM vs 1 GB.
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The only difference between the Sensation and the EVO 3D that will affect performance is 768 RAM vs 1 GB.
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That is not true..they use different displays..both qhd yes but different panels..they also have different cameras..and of course the RAM ,those benchmarks.don't mean **** ..I know that people love to brag about there high bull**** quadrant scores but it is useless..honestly I thought the sensation held up very well against the gs2 ..the reviews online were so ridiculously biased I couldn't watch them. The first thing they do is "oh I'm.gonna run some benchmarks here" in Their British accent..in one comparison he was comparing messaging apps and the two apps were basically identical besides one be black background (gs2) and the sensation white..and he was like the gs2 clearly wins here again. Anyways side by side i did not see the epic difference in speed between the two..they seemed to be very similiar running through tasks IMHO..both very fast and smooth..and people act like 3d is no big deal but I think its pretty cool..its easy to call it a gag when your phone can't do it..and its an option u don't need to use it..but I'm sure it will "wow" the friends at work
Has anyone run Quadrant yet, on their Evo 3D. I have never seen results like this, blows all other phones out of the water. I hit 2105 on it. On my regular Evo rooted, with custom rom, the most i hit is 1100 ish. I am amazed.
Yours is low, my friend said he got about 2250 and the one in the sprint store got about 1500
If the one in the Sprint store got 1500, I think mine is pretty high.
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Highest I have gotten so far is 2343 but these scores really don't mean much.
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Because benchmarks don't matter.
2460 here but like he said, doesn't mean much.
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If the one in the Sprint store got 1500, I think mine is pretty high.
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My bad I missed that was your original evo that got 1100. But yeah the one at the sprint store was really low compared to the rest for some reason.
Try cf-bench if you want a more accurate benchmark for dual core devices..
I agree it doesn't mean much but I consistently get 1980-2010. Can't wait till we get root and overclock.
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2141 , For now
i just scored 1952 and then i scored 5132 on cf-bench.... Kinda sad considering that according to benchmarks the Galaxy S2 kills this one :/ avging a 1000 more wtf!
2317 on quadrant
5292 on cf
58.208 on the old linpack
43.8 fps on nenamark1
26.2 fps on nenamark2
60.8 fps on neocore
Edit: new linpack 201.754 highest, really inconsistent tho
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I have never seen results like this, blows all other phones out of the water.
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Not sure if serious....
You know what I say when people try and brag about benchmarking scores?
"Oh yeah, I have an ICQ account number that is only 5 digits long!" They respond with "what does that have to do with anything?"
My response. "Yes, exactly"
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I got... OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!
LOL @ quadrant
E3D
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You know what I say when people try and brag about benchmarking scores?
"Oh yeah, I have an ICQ account number that is only 5 digits long!" They respond with "what does that have to do with anything?"
My response. "Yes, exactly"
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I remember when a 5 digit icq number was actually worth a nice chunk of change. Mine is 6. lol
I do see some value in benchmarks actually. They're good for tracking changes made on the same piece of hardware. People that blindly diss them don't really get what they're for...
felacio said:
You know what I say when people try and brag about benchmarking scores?
"Oh yeah, I have an ICQ account number that is only 5 digits long!" They respond with "what does that have to do with anything?"
My response. "Yes, exactly"
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Funny quadrant don't matter unless its your device with the high score oh then it matters and that applies for every single damn spec we beef over it don't matter unless its your spec that's higher see watch My LG 2x has 8 gigs rom hows it fell to have 4 ?? Don't matter to you guys unless I said 2x ram witch is 512 Evo 3D is 1gig Oh Now that matters cause its you spec that's higher its one big Ass game
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felacio said:
You know what I say when people try and brag about benchmarking scores?
"Oh yeah, I have an ICQ account number that is only 5 digits long!" They respond with "what does that have to do with anything?"
My response. "Yes, exactly"
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Funny quadrant don't matter unless its your device with the high score oh then it matters and that applies for every single damn spec we beef over it don't matter unless its your spec that's higher see watch My LG 2x has 8 gigs rom hows it fell to have 4 ?? Don't matter to you guys unless I said 2x ram witch is 512 Evo 3D is 1gig Oh Now that matters cause its you spec that's higher its one big Ass game
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http://m.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/99-for-at-ts-3d-phone-lg-thrill-4g-confirmed/26496
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http://m.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/99-for-at-ts-3d-phone-lg-thrill-4g-confirmed/26496
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Eh going by price, it makes it seem cheap to me. Will it sell more, possibly cus of price. But will it be better.....nahhhh
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I don't see it as competition but an expansion of 3D directed content. Hope more 3D phones come out.
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It only has a 1ghz dual processor so, not as good as the 3vo right off the bat.
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It only has a 1ghz dual processor so, not as good as the 3vo right off the bat.
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"Though the HTC Evo 3ds dual core CPU clocks at a slightly faster speed at 1.2 GHz, the Thrill 4G makes up for its slower clock speed with its dual memory channels." Dual channels?
No 4G, slower, half the RAM. PERFECT!!!
More importantly, why the hell would you care? I can't concern myself with the Jones's or what they are buying.
Honestly? Have you used an LG phone? There is no comparison. It's not competition. Not to mention it might be cheaper to start with but consider the network its on and the price you pay to be on that network.......we win in the end.
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I don't see it as competition but an expansion of 3D directed content. Hope more 3D phones come out.
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Exactly. I don't really consider it "competition". It's another 3d phone on another network. Hopefully, it will help with the increased 3d market as fast as apps, games and other content.
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Yeah, I wouldn't get to cranked up over this. 99 bucks? You get what you pay for.
My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
Meh doesn't even come close.
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It only has a 1ghz dual processor so, not as good as the 3vo right off the bat.
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LOL
Are you serious?
It will run circles around the Evo 3d.
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LOL
Are you serious?
It will run circles around the Evo 3d.
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Maybe half circles
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Lol ok guys, be nice. Can someone explain to us all though how dual memory channels will make up for the slower cpu and less ram? Someone with knowledge please help us all out lol. Not this wah wah ****
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It may be $100 cheaper, but remember AT&T has a $325 ETF not $200 like Sprint. Plus their rate plans are a little bit more expensive.
Specs wise, it might be lower resolution but if it's like the 2x it's an IPS panel verses SLCD which looks better if it doesn't have the light bleed problem that plagued the 2x. As for dual channel memory, it allows the memory to be interacted with faster, but can't be filled if that makes any sense. So there can't be as memory hungry apps running, but it does help benchmarks for speed.
the LG has a TI WiLink chipset which is better (has more features like ANT+) than our Broadcom's.
KingKuba13 said:
LOL
Are you serious?
It will run circles around the Evo 3d.
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Someone get this poor kid a doctor. He hit his head pretty hard.
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I am actually happy! Regardless if it is better or not, the more 3d phone out there the more 3d content!!!
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_3d-review-622.php
Oh I was wandering why nobody I know has an optimus 3D.
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iliapiano said:
I am actually happy! Regardless if it is better or not, the more 3d phone out there the more 3d content!!!
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This should be true. They need a couple more and we should start seeing 3D content like crazy.
Sprint and soon ATT. Then tmobile then Verizon?
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I saw this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY7nHi2Lcbg
And it confirmed what I already thought, especially with the benchmarks.
What I'm asking is if through custom roms, overclocking and different apps (maybe opera is better than stock browser) the evo 3d can get near or beat a stock S2 across a number of these tasks.
Referring to the ROMs I mean GSM, but any CDMA input is also appreciated and beneficial to the forum.
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If you were to run AOSP on both phones, there is a very good chance you would not notice a difference in performance (real world wise). Overclock a Sense ROM and you'll probably get the same effect as well. But comparing OC'd to stock isn't that fair.
I will 1v1 anyone in any benchmarks and CPU speed... Lulz
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How old is that video? I had to unroot my EVO to take the new update to the 2.17 base and I must say it flies. I noticed the difference right away. And I'm talking about stock unrooted. The new base on a custom Rom like Meanrom makes all other roms on the old base feel like crap.
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Chad's kernel anyone?
Little kids thinking benchmarks matter. Its cute.
DoctorComrade said:
Little kids thinking benchmarks matter. Its cute.
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True story.
Benchmarks were worth it during the Evo 4G era, but now, all these phones are so powerful that in the real world you won't see differences. IMO
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Little kids thinking benchmarks matter. Its cute.
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Where do I mention benchmarks? If you watch the video its most comparing real world speed like opening and panning etc. Benchmarks are still a good indicator of raw performance
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I saw this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY7nHi2Lcbg
And it confirmed what I already thought, especially with the benchmarks.
What I'm asking is if through custom roms, overclocking and different apps (maybe opera is better than stock browser) the evo 3d can get near or beat a stock S2 across a number of these tasks.
Referring to the ROMs I mean GSM, but any CDMA input is also appreciated and beneficial to the forum.
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shure2 said:
Where do I mention benchmarks? If you watch the video its most comparing real world speed like opening and panning etc. Benchmarks are still a good indicator of raw performance
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Just wanted to point this out.
I dont think its a problem with our cpu or gpu, htc had our phone bogged down, linpack and nenamark2 are so close on both phones stock now. Since the jan update this thing flies.
That video needs to be redone
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Just wanted to point this out.
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Ha i did mention them after all! My mistake, but I'm still a firm believer that benchmarks often show the raw performance of the hardware, but it's usually crippled by the supplied drivers and software.
I guess it's because I come from a PC era where benchmarks are a lot more valuable
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Mean rom surpasses stock SGSII in IMO. Benchmarks say it even passes GalNex too.
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Mean rom surpasses stock SGSII in IMO. Benchmarks say it even passes GalNex too.
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G.nex isn't really considered a powerful phone by any means. Just a elegant phone with an insane display, ICS, and second best development before the International GS2.
I'm running a custom ROM here on my GS2 and it runs better than any Evo 3D ROM I tried. Pretty insane.
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@1:33 he claims the e3d has gorilla glass. Anyone feel like taking their SP off and testing it out?
s3nt from my 3D wond3rland
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@1:33 he claims the e3d has gorilla glass. Anyone feel like taking their SP off and testing it out?
s3nt from my 3D wond3rland
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I have had mine sine early July and never used a case or screen protector. No scratches or blemishes over here.
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diestarbucks said:
I have had mine sine early July and never used a case or screen protector. No scratches or blemishes over here.
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Ditto, hate screen protectors and have never used one on my OG Evo and my Evo 3d and have never had a scratch on them.
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G.nex isn't really considered a powerful phone by any means. Just a elegant phone with an insane display, ICS, and second best development before the International GS2.
I'm running a custom ROM here on my GS2 and it runs better than any Evo 3D ROM I tried. Pretty insane.
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Mean rom is fairly new, newer than the New Year itself. Did you try it before you jumped ship?
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@1:33 he claims the e3d has gorilla glass. Anyone feel like taking their SP off and testing it out?
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Well the manufacturer of gorilla glass thinks so too.
LINK
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Paul5015 said:
Well the manufacturer of gorilla glass thinks so too.
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Inquire at gorilla glass and they say they have no idea.
s3nt from my 3D wond3rland
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Inquire at gorilla glass and they say they have no idea.
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What? It says right on their website that the 3d uses it.
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hey all, iv been an EVO owner since the OG evo on release date. Sorry to say but i threw in the towel today with my evo lte and bought a S3 on Craigslist and sold my evo to a family member. its been a good run! Im off to the s3 forums for now on.
i did love my lte evo very very much, but i feel like iv had the same phone for 4 years now and wanted to change it up with touchwiz.
Nothing wrong with that, my sister is very happy with her S3. So much so that she has yet to throw a ROM on it. It seems like a pretty good phone
running sense for 4 years got to me. i loved the phone but just felt i needed a change.
the phone runs very smooth, but it has lower benchmark scores than my evo -_-
Yeah...even now its pretty bloated. I usually jump ship as soon as I can, running CM10 with no complaints so far. I'm thinking of trying paranoid next. Like I said my lil sis loves it so far. Now if only I can get her to stop shouting bump me every time she wants to beam something
Youll be back they always come back lol
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Put the knife down wile. Let's think about this rationally
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Put the knife down wile. Let's think about this rationally
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What this aint rational? *starts cutting arms*
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I left and came back within a month.
GS3 is good but the E4glte has better quality...both phones are awesome tho
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I say it comes down to hardware because, who are we kidding, most of us can't wait to flash the latest and greatest on to our phones. All flagship phones have competing spec these days. Multiple core socs, HD screen 4+ inches, a clock speed of 1ghz or more. 512+ ram, etc....some one please take that knife away from wile and bring some bandages
I wouldn't be able to live with Samsung's hardware. The quality isn't there
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My parents both have S3s and love them. You really can't go wrong either way. I've always been a fan of HTC though.
Samsung can make a fine tv and maybe a few phones here and there
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I had the gs3 for a few days just out of curiosity...returned for my evo..this weekend I was actually able to use both side by side since my niece has a gs3...don't get me wrong it is nice and does certain things better..like its much louder speaker..but after side by side comparing the evo is better IMO...I think the hype around the gs3 makes ppl believe its better..mine opened apps faster loaded webpages faster took much better pictures and I think the evos screen is far superior ...I notice the pentile without even really looking for it and my screen was much brighter..now I'm.not saying one is much better than the other..bc u cant go wrong with either phone..but I'm sooo tired of hearing how much better the gs3 is when it just isn't ..if it weren't for the extra ram they would have nothing on the EVO
That's what a great marketing team can do, we get crap like some photographer taking pictures of a skydiving model.
Seriously that is one thing HTC could really work on, marketing.
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Warrior 3000 said:
running sense for 4 years got to me. i loved the phone but just felt i needed a change.
the phone runs very smooth, but it has lower benchmark scores than my evo -_-
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What phone runs smooth? The sg3? or the evo LTE? The benchmarks for both the sg3 and the evo LTE should be kinda close as they have the same processor.
If you are saying that your og evo has higher benchmarks, I highly recommend you start a career as a stand up comedian, because that's one of the funniest things I have ever heard :beer:
I have messed with a friends sg3 and it's a nice phone, enjoy!
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What phone runs smooth? The sg3? or the evo LTE? The benchmarks for both the sg3 and the evo LTE should be kinda close as they have the same processor.
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Doesn't Samsung use their home grown Krait SOC?
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Doesn't Samsung use their home grown Krait SOC?
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I'm pretty sure they both use the qualcomm krait s4 soc... I could be wrong but the sprint store reps in my area have said it's the same processor. I'll do some research and update my post. Thanks for the research task, gives me a few moments away from the wife and kids.
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And I could be wrong but Samsung has been bragging about their krait tech... and never trust a sprint rep unless you know them lol I over heard one tell a customer htc is made by HP computers and she bought it straight away
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And I could be wrong but Samsung has been bragging about their krait tech... and never trust a sprint rep unless you know them lol I over heard one tell a customer htc is made by HP computers and she bought it straight away
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Nope, it is the same exact soc krait s4 processor... http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/05/htc-evo-4g-lte-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-sprint/
About the sprint reps, some are knowledgeable, most want the commission. The store in the city I live in is a corporate store, so I'm hoping/assuming they might be more knowledgeable... Prolly not though. I brought my evo shift running running cm7 in a year ago and the rep had no clue. He actually thought it was cool. Lol
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