Should I trade my thunderbolt for a droid razr and cash? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I offered to trade my thunderbolt for a droid razr and they offered it plus cash. Should I take it? I don't like moto much but just curious if anyone else thought it was a good deal.
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I suppose I'm just a fan of HTC phones, but I would stick to the Thunderbolt.
Your phone works perfectly and you know how to use it correctly. The Razr would be another whole thing to get used to and you take a chance on that phone having its issues.
I'm probably way out there on my concept, and I'd also hate to see you leave the Thunderbolt community. We've lost a lot of people already, and as active as you are here, it would be much lonely here.
Besides that, I just personally think the Thunderbolt is a better phone... but that's just my opinion of it.
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RBarnett09 said:
I suppose I'm just a fan of HTC phones, but I would stick to the Thunderbolt.
Your phone works perfectly and you know how to use it correctly. The Razr would be another whole thing to get used to and you take a chance on that phone having its issues.
I'm probably way out there on my concept, and I'd also hate to see you leave the Thunderbolt community. We've lost a lot of people already, and as active as you are here, it would be much lonely here.
Besides that, I just personally think the Thunderbolt is a better phone... but that's just my opinion of it.
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I like my thunderbolt just fine I was just thinking of the moto razr as a slight upgrade. I'm mo stranger to Motorola all. My wife had the og droid and a droid 3 (both of which were huge piles of crap) and rooted them both. I'm just worried ill get that razr and it will be a huge steaming pile like my wife's droids. Thanks, you helped me decide against it.
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Good. I tried. Haha.
I've mostly always heard bad reviews about moto phones.
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The displays in them after the og droid look like crap. You can actually see the digitizer on it which is annoying to me. Plus blur sucks really bad IMO. I think blur just looks terrible. Hardware wise the phone is better but I think the display and blur are enough for me to not want it.
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I know this is a few days old, but another vote for keeping the Thunderbolt. I checked out the RAZR and RAZR MAXX in the store, and absolutely hated the display and overly large bezel, as well as the odd hard edges of the phone. While the Thunderbolt is older and has lower specs, I still prefer it. Heck, I missed it after using a GS3 for a couple days.

Yea I'm not getting it. I really hate moto phones.
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Droidx2 or htc thunderbolt?

So i just got the droidx2 i really like the phone and all but im thinking about trading it for a htc thunderbolt does anybody know how they compare to eachother?
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A buddy of mine from work just got a thunderbolt and it is really fast the development on the x2 is slow but is getting there ..the thunderbolt does have some sweet roms out ....the only bad thing I've heard is that it has terrible battery life ....its your call bit those are my 2 cents
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Support The X2!!
Get the thunderbolt. I don't wanna read your whining about slow development for the x2. We have enough whiners.
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i was using dx and i bought the thunderbolt on ebay and used it
for about 3months.. but then i came back to dx..
if you want 4g lte then u might want thunderbolt,
but if 3g is ok with u then dx2 will be a lot better
im getting dx2 today for replacement
ok, thanx guys for ur two cents. like i said i really like the droid x2 its a greaT phone but i just really prefer sense idk y lol i kinda also really want the front facing camra lol. n ya i heard the same thing about the battery life. so far that, and the fact that theres no hdmi out are the only negative things ive heard about it really
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ok, thanx guys for ur two cents. like i said i really like the droid x2 its a greaT phone but i just really prefer sense idk y lol i kinda also really want the front facing camra lol. n ya i heard the same thing about the battery life. so far that, and the fact that theres no hdmi out are the only negative things ive heard about it really
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I believe battery life importance is by far the most important thing in a phone. Can't wait for the day when battery life on these and 4G (since their going to phase 3G out) is fantastic (more then 10 hours heavy use). Thats just wishful thinking because it'll never happen.
Question for those here, when 3G phones do get phased out and were stuck with 4G and its horrible battery life is everyone just going to go with the flow or anyone stick with the same phone they currently have.
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ya i heard the same thing about the battery life. so far that, and the fact that theres no hdmi out are the only negative things ive heard about it really
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If you want to hear yet another "negative thing" about the Thunderbold, I think it feels rather "clunky" in your hand. Sorta like a small brick.
I had a Thunderbolt and came to the x2. It's a great phone, development is awesome, ie it has cm7 and a slew of sense based roms. Battery life is easily manageable. I'd go back if i could.
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I've had a DX2 for 5 weeks. GB has made it very unstable. And the pentile display is poor. Its almost as bad as my old BB Storm. Get the TB if you can't wait for the good phones in October
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c_hack said:
I've had a DX2 for 5 weeks. GB has made it very unstable. And the pentile display is poor. Its almost as bad as my old BB Storm. Get the TB if you can't wait for the good phones in October
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stop trolling. GB is the most stable android as a whole has ever been. and the pentile display is entirely opinion, although most "real world" reviews will tell you it is not an issue in the least bit.
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stop trolling. GB is the most stable android as a whole has ever been. and the pentile display is entirely opinion, although most "real world" reviews will tell you it is not an issue in the least bit.
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This.
Sounds like c_hack needs a iphone.
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This.
Sounds like c_hack needs a iphone.
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The display does ghost like a mother though. Seriously.
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ilovesoad said:
The display does ghost like a mother though. Seriously.
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Whose mother? Not mine!
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Whose mother? Not mine!
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I wasn't going to add the other word. Some people like to report me to mr. Clown for using adult language.
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ilovesoad said:
I wasn't going to add the other word. Some people like to report me to mr. Clown for using adult language.
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It's Not About Using It, This Isn't The Place To Use It. Clearly Stated In The Rules That You Agreed To When Signing Up. What You Could Do Is Make Your Own Website And Make Your Own Rules. Lol.
ilovesoad said:
The display does ghost like a mother though. Seriously.
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Sounds like your display is defective.
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Go for the Bolt, especially if you're into custom roms. We only have 2 roms...which aren't really custom roms, they're just tweaked stock roms. Nothing like CM7 or MIUI.
Once the Bionic comes out, a good handful of people will get it. I doubt a lot of devs will be looking at it (locked loader, sick of waiting for it). The Bionic, the Vigor, and the rumored soon released Nexus Prime are going to push us to the back of the room. I plan on trying to sell my x2 once the Prime or Vigor comes out, actually I regret getting it since the Prime and Vigor are coming out so soon

[Q] Early upgrade to what?

My wife's Incredible is in the process of dying & I found out that I have the last of my yearly upgrades on my line & she's always wanted the x2, sooooo: What should I get, Razr, Rezound or GNex?
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Get anything Samsung.
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X0dus said:
Get anything Samsung.
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Can you root a stock Samsung phone now without having to deal with that "Rage against the Cage" nonsense? Tried it once on my wife's Facinate and my anti-virus program wouldn't let Rage run, even when I disabled it. (I know there are ROM's with pre-rooted Kernels you can flash. Just flashed rooted GB 2.3.5 kernel to my Galaxy Tab.)
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Get anything Samsung.
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Came from a fascinate & am suspicious of Samsung reception. The missed call thing was killing me & I haven't had one incident of that on the x2.
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Gnex sounds sick to me...
But u know if u wait a month something even crazier will be bound to drop Hahaha.
I was also digging the HTC resound that was announced
Galaxy Nexus. Hands down. I'll be getting one of those soon.
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Galaxy Nexus. Hands down. I'll be getting one of those soon.
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It does sound great but the lack of an sd card slot is kinda a deal breaker for me.
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Gnex sounds sick to me...
But u know if u wait a month something even crazier will be bound to drop Hahaha.
I was also digging the HTC resound that was announced
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Yep, I know but it's either buy me a phone now or buy my wife one now, so how do you think that's gonna go? Lol
But all that aside, I checked out the razr today & plan on comparing it to the Rezound next week. My bottom line is reception & my x2 has never failed me where my wife's dinc hasn't been too impressive so htc might not be the best for me.
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Can you root a stock Samsung phone now without having to deal with that "Rage against the Cage" nonsense? Tried it once on my wife's Facinate and my anti-virus program wouldn't let Rage run, even when I disabled it. (I know there are ROM's with pre-rooted Kernels you can flash. Just flashed rooted GB 2.3.5 kernel to my Galaxy Tab.)
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Rage in the cage new? Never had to use it. First root ever was a one click root i found somewhere. Then i used Odin to flash the stock froyo pre-root. I believe i seen a pre-root GB stock over there, too.
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I believe "Rage against the Cage" is the exploit scheme that they used on the Samsung one-click boot process. It's been about 6 months since I've tried to root the Facinate, so my memory is sketcy. The upside is that, as you mentioned, there are probably a lot of pre-rooted ROM offerings that can be easily flashed with Heimdall (or Odin, if yer into that).
I agree Sammy makes a good phone. Wife loves her Facinate. Sadly, the Galaxy II never made it to Verizon, but now lots of folks are waiting for the Nexus, which should be out around the end of the month. But I also like the Moto Droid line, now that we've been given some developer attention. The hardware is top notch, and my X2 is running VERY snappy and stable on Moto-Ginger-Funk v7a. I have no reason to want to trade up for a long while yet (unless Google cannot get a handle on their funky Market issue).
Droid Razr looks very sharp (sorry for the pun). I'm a little afraid of the non-removeable battery, though. There are loads of times that I have recoved my X2 from brink of "brickhood" just by pulling the battery and booting into recovery.
I'm not too crazy about the Razr's non-detachable battery. All too often taking the battery out and putting it back in seems to solve a problem, without having that ability on the Razr I'm somewhat concerned.
Odin=Heimdall but for diff operating systems, i believe. When my contract is up, I'm looking into sprint if vzw isn't allowed to launch the SGSII. And no, i have no intentions of turning this thread into a "who it's better sprint or vzw". Carry on w/ upgrade discussion...
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I'm not too crazy about the Razr's non-detachable battery. All too often taking the battery out and putting it back in seems to solve a problem, without having that ability on the Razr I'm somewhat concerned.
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I'm pretty sure that the razr has a failsafe two buttons u.press to kill battery connection or something similar
.like a "hard kill" switch.
I am upgrading to the ReZound Monday. There are more reasons not to get the Razr, than there are to get it lol. If you are in an X2 now, you are better off either keeping it and riding out your time, or getting the ReZound/Nexus, at least right now.
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I am upgrading to the ReZound Monday. There are more reasons not to get the Razr, than there are to get it lol. If you are in an X2 now, you are better off either keeping it and riding out your time, or getting the ReZound/Nexus, at least right now.
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What led you to the Rezound? Beats audio or the the display?
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Well, the headphones alone carry a very hefty price, so getting them "free" for the same price as the other phones is a good incentive(probably why they aren't advertising the phone). I already have the SkullCandy Titan Earbuds, so I really don't NEED the Beats Audio ones. But, the camera's on it are both better. The screen resolution is on par with the nexus on a DX2 size screen. Removable battery, SD storage, unlockable BL, 1.5GHz processor.. Basically, the only "feature" it doesn't carry is the super slim design, and who gives a **** if the phone is lacking in so many other categories? lol.
My moms Stock Inc2 walked all over my X2 with Eclipse before I even put CM7 on it for her! HTC is doing all the right things, even with Sense. Too many people complain about Samsung, and I lived in Korea for 2 years from 07-09, we are getting their leftovers over here(Thanks FCC/FTC, and assholes running patent wars..Apple).
Yeah Im gonna look into adding a line soon. Not sure if I'm going to resound or nexus yet
Rezound looks sick. As does nexus(ICS!) but I can see resound getting ics eventually.
ha. HTC edge I thought about until I saw it was Tegra. I will wait for reviews on that before even trying it lol. This phone has lowered my expectations for tegra devices lol
Skip skip stutter...it drives me crazy how one day it seems skipping is.fixed but next its stutters again
garywojdan81 said:
My wife's Incredible is in the process of dying & I found out that I have the last of my yearly upgrades on my line & she's always wanted the x2, sooooo: What should I get, Razr, Rezound or GNex?
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His and hers X2's...it would be soooo cute
Well, couldn't hold out any longer...
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motcher41 said:
His and hers X2's...it would be soooo cute
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We did that actually, got the original DX the day they came out. Loved em. I moved from a bb curve and she from a Moto rokr. When the DX gb bugs hit we were offered DX2s and took them since we had the car docks etc. Didn't feel like switching 100 worth of accessories.
AtLemacks right, seems that the Razer with limitations or something without. Hardware is close enough on either one. Why move to another Moto and keep banging your head against the wall like we do daily.
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Well, couldn't hold out any longer...
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Wha?! Well you might as well let us know what your impressions are.
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Thunderbolt for droid3?

I have an opportunity to trade my tbolt for a droid3. Im not crazy over blur, but I do want a keyboard. Lte doesn't really matter to me that much, its nice but I ALWAYS need a spare battery. Kinda defeats the purpose. What do you guys think I should do?
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After dealing with my wife's piece of crap Droid 3 I would say hell no. Her phone wouldn't hold a data signal for nothing and it was constantly glitching.
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I too had an offer to trade for a droid 3 but declined. No 4G, blur is horrid, development is kinda stagnant, although the bolt is too until we get ics, no unlocked bootloader, no ics, wasn't very appealing to me. I like my thunderbolt, and with the extended battery it has done me very well. Not much right now I would consider changing too.
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Just talked with verizon...again. Need your help guys.

I've been having issues with network here in Scarborough Maine. At first Verizon was quick to help but after 2-3 months of trying to get them to fix it its like they are trying to ignore me. Also, this is after 2 replacement phones. So today I called back and they said my network ticket had been.....RESOLVED??!! Hmm this is the first I heard of it and obviously not since I'm still having speed issues. So I got transferred to tech support and they offered to give me a different model. She said no iPhone (I laughed and said that's fine I hate apple junk) and no 4G phones (dammit). So she gave me two phones that she "recommends" a Casio commander and an HTC rhyme....WTF!!?? So I kinda giggled and said I don't think those will work for ME. So I guess I'm allowed any current 3G phone on their website, I want suggestions from you guys annnnnd go!
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I've been having issues with network here in Scarborough Maine. At first Verizon was quick to help but after 2-3 months of trying to get them to fix it its like they are trying to ignore me. Also, this is after 2 replacement phones. So today I called back and they said my network ticket had been.....RESOLVED??!! Hmm this is the first I heard of it and obviously not since I'm still having speed issues. So I got transferred to tech support and they offered to give me a different model. She said no iPhone (I laughed and said that's fine I hate apple junk) and no 4G phones (dammit). So she gave me two phones that she "recommends" a Casio commander and an HTC rhyme....WTF!!?? So I kinda giggled and said I don't think those will work for ME. So I guess I'm allowed any current 3G phone on their website, I want suggestions from you guys annnnnd go!
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ask for the droid incredible 2. its not on the website but they have to have some somewhere....
antp121 said:
ask for the droid incredible 2. its not on the website but they have to have some somewhere....
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Good call, I'm gonna go to the Verizon store right now and see
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Triscuit said:
Good call, I'm gonna go to the Verizon store right now and see
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great phone. single core but has a really good dev community. has more ram too, if im not mistaken. also has REALLY stable ics roms like cm9, aokp, miui, a sense 4 rom, paranoid, geeze theres alot of roms!
They gave me a Dinc2 and I love it. Just be aware the newer software on the phones are making it more dificult to downgrade to get s off. Which gives you perm root. When they downgrade with the newer software version sense roms bootloop. People are working on it and it is ongoing. AOSP roms will work fine like CM7 and CM9 or any aosp ICS rom.
jesus, verizon put up a helluva fight but after fighting with them tooth and nail for over 45 minutes, I am now the proud owner of a droid incredible 2. My time in the droid x 2 forums has been great everybody here has been extremely helpful in any issues or questions I've had. And as for the developers, thank you so very much for making this phone at all usable and enjoyable. Of course I will still be browsing through these forums because my roommate has the x2 but my time here has come to an end. moving on to bigger and better things!!! See you all on the flip side, actually, who am I kidding I will still be on these damn x2 forums everyday lol
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jesus, verizon put up a helluva fight but after fighting with them tooth and nail for over 45 minutes, I am now the proud owner of a droid incredible 2. My time in the droid x 2 forums has been great everybody here has been extremely helpful in any issues or questions I've had. And as for the developers, thank you so very much for making this phone at all usable and enjoyable. Of course I will still be browsing through these forums because my roommate has the x2 but my time here has come to an end. moving on to bigger and better things!!! See you all on the flip side, actually, who am I kidding I will still be on these damn x2 forums everyday lol
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Lol enjoy! I'm enjoying my rezound. 10x better then the dx2.
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antp121 said:
Lol enjoy! I'm enjoying my rezound. 10x better then the dx2.
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Oh I know lol I threw my buddy onto my account and got him a rezound, was it fairly easy to unlocked and get it hooked up with custom rom/kernel etc? I want to get him up and running with AOKP
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Oh I know lol I threw my buddy onto my account and got him a rezound, was it fairly easy to unlocked and get it hooked up with custom rom/kernel etc? I want to get him up and running with AOKP
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well..... the rezound doesnt have any of those roms. We dont have a stable CM9 or AOKP. there are some but they are REALLY alpha (like no talk, texting, wifi, 3g/4g, etc) it pretty much boots. Although, there are some good roms. the one im running is Desensed, meaning there is less sense but its still there.
I actually went from resound to Droid x2 lol. So many issues with my resound. Besides ram issues I love dx2
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I actually went from resound to Droid x2 lol. So many issues with my resound. Besides ram issues I love dx2
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Oh god! I'd never do that!
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Cool. I went to RAZR and it's definitely 10x (if not 100x) better than the X2.
Enjoy!
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I actually went from resound to Droid x2 lol. So many issues with my resound. Besides ram issues I love dx2
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Youch. Not sure if the X2 could be considered to be better. At least, not from my experience!
Music on the X2 is awful. It constantly skipped and the 512mb of memory just doesn't cut it. If you're not using it for music, it's not bad, but as an MP3 player, wow. Poor, poor design.
But, if it's doing better than the resound, all the more power to yah! There are plenty of helpful people here with a lot of knowledge.
Enjoy!
Ugh guys, I've kinda gotten attached to my X2. I was looking through the Incredible 2 forums and it looks like I have a lot to learn lol
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The X2 is losing people literally everyday. Congrats of the new device. Funny cause I still use my X2 everyday. My 4G signal is extremely iffy in my gym (and the wifi is un-useable) so when it goes out, no music and no Netflix. I whip out my X2 that now holds all my music internally and I'm all good.
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I might just buy a cheap X2 in a while so I can keep screwing around with it, DzK's ICS has a lot of potential, it will only get better with time as he hacks the **** out of it lol
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I might just buy a cheap X2 in a while so I can keep screwing around with it, DzK's ICS has a lot of potential, it will only get better with time as he hacks the **** out of it lol
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How much for one that won't boot cause I can't boot because of a bad install I just need a external charger so I can sbf... Then I'm gunna sell mine
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How much for one that won't boot cause I can't boot because of a bad install I just need a external charger so I can sbf... Then I'm gunna sell mine
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Lol well I said a while because my bills enjoy taking all the money out of my pockets. But...make me an offer I can't refuse haha
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They just gave me a Stratosphere 4G for free No upgrade required! !! even the rep said she had never heard of anyone ever getting a 4g phone for a 3g replacement completely free. Didn't even have to upgrade!!! Score!!!
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They just gave me a Stratosphere 4G for free No upgrade required! !! even the rep said she had never heard of anyone ever getting a 4g phone for a 3g replacement completely free. Didn't even have to upgrade!!! Score!!!
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Nice!
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The X2 is losing people literally everyday. Congrats of the new device. Funny cause I still use my X2 everyday. My 4G signal is extremely iffy in my gym (and the wifi is un-useable) so when it goes out, no music and no Netflix. I whip out my X2 that now holds all my music internally and I'm all good.
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Gnex with iffy signal....hmmm
btw, once you learn how to work the dinc2, you will love it. All the romage is sweet.
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DNA review

What do you guys think of this review? agree? vehemently disagree?
I agree. I love this phone, despite it not working well with my own Jam speaker.
http://www.itiswhatitis.biz/1/post/2013/05/htc-dna-verizon.html
Agreed. DNA is probably the best phone I've ever used.
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I sure like it. Usually I get that ancy feeling when a new phones comes out that I "must get that!"", but so far I've been more than happy with the DNA :good:
I agree absolutely love this phone diffident content with everything.
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This is probably one the best devices I've ever used. The hardware is phenomenal and it can handle a ported unofficial 4.2.2 android rom like a charm.
I think the author is my alternate reality self. We both had bb storms (I actually really liked mine, maybe because in was used to the hard resets from my curve.) he got the incredible, I got the DROID X. He got the bionic and I got the thunderbolt lol. Although I think my addiction is more severe since I've also owned a RAZR maxx and a gnexus. I'll be keeping the dna for a good long while though. I really really love my phone.
That was a great review.
I'm coming from the bionic as well. My ex roommate was a really bad Verizon employee and gave me one. I didn't realize what I was missing until I got the nexus 7 and realized having a locked bootloader sucks. Never owning another moto phone either.
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