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Ok so I've had this question forever and I'm not sure its ever been addressed.
I rooted via revolutionary so I have s off.
for whatever reason I decided I wanted to have h boot 1.5.
I know about the kernel dilemma with hboot 1.5.
Does anyone if that would still affect me even with s off?
Does anyone have a link to unit 1.4 that I can try and flash through recov?
Thanks guys,
RJ
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cant flash back to a previous version of hboot. tried it lol
Don't flash to hboot 1.5 sir its a one way street.you have already an S off
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I really want to know what possessed you to want hboot 1.5
What benefit is there to flashing hboot 1.5?
DarkManX4lf said:
What benefit is there to flashing hboot 1.5?
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There is no benefit. Its locked down so there is absolutely no reason to upgrade unless you don't like having root access.
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If you ever wanted the newer hboot version (I don't see why anyone would ever want it) you could flash it but I don't know if it will keep S-Off. If it does, it will be locked so you might have to use HTC unlock to get the features of S-Off. Even then, you might still have to flash kernels via fastboot.
TLDR: Don't flash HBOOT 1.50.
Wanna trade phones? I've got 1.5 and I really wish I didn't.
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I really want to know what possessed you to want hboot 1.5
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Haha because 1.5 is obviously a bigger number than 1.4 right!? The bigger the number the cooler you are. Example you have 1.4 million dollars I have 1.5 million dollars. I'm living large. End of story
Um... Yeah I have s off with 1.5 so idk
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Musik847 said:
Haha because 1.5 is obviously a bigger number than 1.4 right!? The bigger the number the cooler you are. Example you have 1.4 million dollars I have 1.5 million dollars. I'm living large. End of story
Um... Yeah I have s off with 1.5 so idk
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No need to get pissy, I was simply asking if you think there are any advantages of having the 1.5 hboot over the 1.4 or the ENG hboot. I mean, there are no new featrues. In fact, if you wanted all of the hboot features, then the ENG hboot is your best bet.
wrapkgb said:
There is no benefit. Its locked down so there is absolutely no reason to upgrade unless you don't like having root access.
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So basically the only reason htc updates its hboot is to keep phones locked?
DarkManX4lf said:
So basically the only reason htc updates its hboot is to keep phones locked?
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That's exactly right.
@soltice i was jk. I didnt at all mean to sound rude. I just did it cause i wasnt thinking and i saw "hboot 1.5, the newest out there" and i said to myself i gotta have it.
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Musik847 said:
@soltice i was jk. I didnt at all mean to sound rude. I just did it cause i wasnt thinking and i saw "hboot 1.5, the newest out there" and i said to myself i gotta have it.
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Ah, good to know. It can be rather difficult to convey and understand sarcasm on the internet, especially on these forums. Anyways, as long as you have S-OFF, that's all that matters. However, if you want all the features possible, you want the ENG hboot. Haus has a thread on how to install it in the dev forums.
I did what you did, had 1.40 and flashed the wrong update, got 1.50 LOCKED with S-off. You can still flash ROMs and Kernels with no issues. I just had to reload TWRP recovery. Then I flashed the 1.40 Bootloader and all was well.
You can grab 1.40 and flash from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192306&highlight=eng+bootloader
***To others reading this...do not flash this, unless you are S-OFF with 1.50 hboot***
You do not need to UNLOCK using the htcdev method. Just flash the 1.40 hboot and you will be fine.
KB112 said:
I did what you did, had 1.40 and flashed the wrong update, got 1.50 LOCKED with S-off. You can still flash ROMs and Kernels with no issues. I just had to reload TWRP recovery. Then I flashed the 1.40 Bootloader and all was well.
You can grab 1.40 and flash from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192306&highlight=eng+bootloader
***To others reading this...do not flash this, unless you are S-OFF with 1.50 hboot***
You do not need to UNLOCK using the htcdev method. Just flash the 1.40 hboot and you will be fine.
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Thanks man that's good news.
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DarkManX4lf said:
So basically the only reason htc updates its hboot is to keep phones locked?
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SolsticeZero said:
That's exactly right.
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So if they want to keep the phones locked, why release an official bootloader unlock method?
/confused
_-Jay-_ said:
So if they want to keep the phones locked, why release an official bootloader unlock method?
/confused
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They release an official unlock method that still gives them some control. For example, you can't flash a different hboot or a different radio on their unlock method.
What type of features are you talking about? Are you saying 1.4 h-boot over 1.3 adds extras to the phone?
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They release an official unlock method that still gives them some control. For example, you can't flash a different hboot or a different radio on their unlock method.
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Can u not flash new radios via fastboot like kernels? Always wondered that part.
Also if you can't then how do you get the new radios when they r released?
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Hello all,
I traded that sorry BB Playbook for a lovely Evo 3D. Now I want to root 2.3.5 and I have Hboot 1.5. There is a lot of information that I have combed through but its really confusing. I have a Nexus S and an Evo 4g rooted without issue, but EVO 3D appears to have too many ways to root and I'm not sure where to start. If someone can point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
qhinton said:
Hello all,
I traded that sorry BB Playbook for a lovely Evo 3D. Now I want to root 2.3.5 and I have Hboot 1.5. There is a lot of information that I have combed through but its really confusing. I have a Nexus S and an Evo 4g rooted without issue, but EVO 3D appears to have too many ways to root and I'm not sure where to start. If someone can point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
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Check the stickies of the development forum for how to downgrade your hboot, after that, use revolutionary to s-off your phone.
Better yet, here's the downgrade thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
qhinton said:
Hello all,
I traded that sorry BB Playbook for a lovely Evo 3D. Now I want to root 2.3.5 and I have Hboot 1.5. There is a lot of information that I have combed through but its really confusing. I have a Nexus S and an Evo 4g rooted without issue, but EVO 3D appears to have too many ways to root and I'm not sure where to start. If someone can point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
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I would recommend htcdev.com for the official 1.5 unlock. Its easier and safer than downgrading your boot loader.
Vinchenzop said:
Check the stickies of the development forum for how to downgrade your hboot, after that, use revolutionary to s-off your phone.
Better yet, here's the downgrade thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
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Thanks kind sir
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jsp20 said:
I would recommend htcdev.com for the official 1.5 unlock. Its easier and safer than downgrading your boot loader.
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Dude please go back to sucking on your mothers nipple as you have no Idea what you are talking about.
@OP stay away from HTCdev.com do the downgrade it is well worth it in the end yes it does sound scary that you have to brick your phone to achieve h-boot 1.4 with s-off but it works 100% I have done the method and now sitting with an evo3d with h-boot 1.4 s-off running Meanrom with the Anthrax kernel.
spirithandler said:
Dude please go back to sucking on your mothers nipple as you have no Idea what you are talking about.
@OP stay away from HTCdev.com do the downgrade it is well worth it in the end yes it does sound scary that you have to brick your phone to achieve h-boot 1.4 with s-off but it works 100% I have done the method and now sitting with an evo3d with h-boot 1.4 s-off running Meanrom with the Anthrax kernel.
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Too funny. Tiddy milk
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spirithandler said:
Dude please go back to sucking on your mothers nipple as you have no Idea what you are talking about.
@OP stay away from HTCdev.com do the downgrade it is well worth it in the end yes it does sound scary that you have to brick your phone to achieve h-boot 1.4 with s-off but it works 100% I have done the method and now sitting with an evo3d with h-boot 1.4 s-off running Meanrom with the Anthrax kernel.
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Seeing as you HAVE to use the HTCDev method to unlock it in the first place, I would say you have failed. Massively.
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I recently had my EVO 3D replaced by sprint, kept rebooting randomly even after superwipe and flashing completely back to stock. Received a replacement with 1.5 hboot. I downgraded it just fine, never used HTCDev method.
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Seeing as you HAVE to use the HTCDev method to unlock it in the first place, I would say you have failed. Massively.
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Maybe you need to read unknownforces thread and you will see you also have the foot in mouth disease.
you dont need to do the HTC unlock method to downgrade the instructions I quite clear in unknownforces thread.
Atomix86 said:
Seeing as you HAVE to use the HTCDev method to unlock it in the first place, I would say you have failed. Massively.
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Well...this is embarrassing...
If you don't want to go through the process of downgrading. I reccomend
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-evo-3d-2-08-651-2-and-later-htc-unlock-method/
Painless and fast
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If you are new to rooting and not very computer savy I would recommend htc's unlock method it will give you root albeit with s-on. But if you understand Linux and are good on a computer. I say go ahead with the down grade by unknownforce. I'm gonna do it this weekend. It'll be nice to have s-off.
Vinchenzop said:
Well...this is embarrassing...
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Now, now guys. Let's give our neighbor across the pond the benefit of the doubt as he is on GSM and cannot downgrade boot using unknownforce's method.
Curious if there is any other ways to achieve S-Off on an already rooted EVO hboot 1.12 other than DirtyRacun as I am not having any luck with that method.
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ChewyWade said:
Curious if there is any other ways to achieve S-Off on an already rooted EVO hboot 1.12 other than DirtyRacun as I am not having any luck with that method.
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lazy panda works if u have hboot 1.12 they dont support it anymore but it still works on hboot 1.12 i kno someone who used it a weeks ago.. dam i just asked if they had the file still and they dont.. ask around someone should still have the lazy panda file im sure
ChewyWade said:
Curious if there is any other ways to achieve S-Off on an already rooted EVO hboot 1.12 other than DirtyRacun as I am not having any luck with that method.
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Check your PM
I am also on hboot 1.12 and am currently S-ON rooted and HTCDEV unlocked. Looking for an S-Off method other than DirtyRacun because I have x64 Windows and would really rather not update my hboot for S-OFF or mess around with Linux.
If I could get a hold of the Lazy Panda file would it be helpful based on my situation?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
spokenwordd said:
I am also on hboot 1.12 and am currently S-ON rooted and HTCDEV unlocked. Looking for an S-Off method other than DirtyRacun because I have x64 Windows and would really rather not update my hboot for S-OFF or mess around with Linux.
If I could get a hold of the Lazy Panda file would it be helpful based on my situation?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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bigdaddy mite be the man to talk to??
spokenwordd said:
I am also on hboot 1.12 and am currently S-ON rooted and HTCDEV unlocked. Looking for an S-Off method other than DirtyRacun because I have x64 Windows and would really rather not update my hboot for S-OFF or mess around with Linux.
If I could get a hold of the Lazy Panda file would it be helpful based on my situation?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Check your PM
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ChewyWade said:
Curious if there is any other ways to achieve S-Off on an already rooted EVO hboot 1.12 other than DirtyRacun as I am not having any luck with that method.
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Yesterday I did the deed, and got S-OFF. I was running a 1.12 hboot after downgrading several months earlier. Had to RUU up to a 1.19 hboot for the Racun to do it's thing. Otherwise it was a quick, and painless operation. If you need help go the #unlimited IRC channel on freenode.net.
If you're already hboot 1.12, lazypanda is a simple executable that needs no more than administrative privileges and 5-10 minutes.
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Why not upgrade from 1.12 to 1.19 to use dirtyracun? Only reason why not to upgrade before was because there wasn't an s off method for 1.19 lol
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decayer177 said:
If you're already hboot 1.12, lazypanda is a simple executable that needs no more than administrative privileges and 5-10 minutes.
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Problem now is, Lazy Panda is no longer supported by Team Unlimited. If you get into a tight spot and need help, you're potentially going to be screwed. Having said that, myself and many others have successfully used it since support for it ceased. Risk versus reward, I suppose.
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FinZ28 said:
Problem now is, Lazy Panda is no longer supported by Team Unlimited. If you get into a tight spot and need help, you're potentially going to be screwed. Having said that, myself and many others have successfully used it since support for it ceased. Risk versus reward, I suppose.
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I am also in need to lazy panda. Can someone send it to me or point me in the right direction? Thanks
FinZ28 said:
Problem now is, Lazy Panda is no longer supported by Team Unlimited. If you get into a tight spot and need help, you're potentially going to be screwed. Having said that, myself and many others have successfully used it since support for it ceased. Risk versus reward, I suppose.
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Juopunutbear is no longer supported on the 3D, but I was able to use it successfully just a couple weeks ago on a used phone I got from eBay for my wife. As long as you follow the directions as closely as possible, you shouldn't run into any issues.
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Linux kicking my ass. Cat seem to in on live CD trying to soffffffff a 209.after the ota
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So is there now way to get soff on a new device these days? WTF?
Just had to get my phone replaced and I can't seem to find clear direction on how to get S-Off anymore. Can't believe it.
I don't even know how to function with a S-On phone. Seriously.
tgrgrd00 said:
So is there now way to get soff on a new device these days? WTF?
Just had to get my phone replaced and I can't seem to find clear direction on how to get S-Off anymore. Can't believe it.
I don't even know how to function with a S-On phone. Seriously.
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You can use FacePalm found in original development if you are not on the latest OTA 3.16.651.3
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I JUST used Lazy Panda after being rooted on the newest software update and it wasn't a problem. Don't hesitate to use it.
mstrblueskys said:
I JUST used Lazy Panda after being rooted on the newest software update and it wasn't a problem. Don't hesitate to use it.
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I'm calling BS on this ^^^^^
LazyPanda is no longer supported and unless you have the files you cannot find them anywhere.
LazyPanda ONLY works for hboot 1.12 it will not work on "the newest software update"
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You can use FacePalm found in original development if you are not on the latest OTA 3.16.651.3
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Well it cane with 3.16.651.3 so I am out of luck there.
So it looks like I am stuck like chuck for now. :sigh:
I actually have the lazy panda files but don't have the instructions for my hboot.
Gotta say reading the lazy panda page reads like a 12 year old girl got soff on our device.
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tgrgrd00 said:
Well it cane with 3.16.651.3 so I am out of luck there.
So it looks like I am stuck like chuck for now. :sigh:
I actually have the lazy panda files but don't have the instructions for my hboot.
Gotta say reading the lazy panda page reads like a 12 year old girl got soff on our device.
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DirtyRacun will work on 3.16 but you have to use Linux (windows is no longer supported)
I did BabyRacun so I could install 3.15 and finished with FacePalm. Had not one issue other than user error. Lol. Worked great. Did that today on my replacement of which Sprint decided to update fully.
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Hello XDA I'm wondering the best reliable way to gain S-OFF and root access on the software 3.15
Thank you
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lreyes said:
Hello XDA I'm wondering the best reliable way to gain S-OFF and root access on the software 3.15
Thank you
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I don't think you can S-Off yet with the latest. DirtyRacun may support it now I could be wrong. Watch Qbking77's videos on YouTube to unlock and root your device. Good luck and welcome.
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If you are already on 2.09 hboot, I think you have to use the hboot downgrade method to brick your phone and install an earlier hboot which will let you run dirty racun. It is by no means easy, and I don't know if there is still support for that method.
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cruise350 said:
If you are already on 2.09 hboot, I think you have to use the hboot downgrade method to brick your phone and install an earlier hboot which will let you run dirty racun. It is by no means easy, and I don't know if there is still support for that method.
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Downgrading your Hboot doesn't brick your phone. I've been doing this with my OG evo
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lreyes said:
Downgrading your Hboot doesn't brick your phone. I've been doing this with my OG evo
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The only way to downgrade your HBOOT on this device IS to brick your phone (if you're S-ON, that is). I think you misunderstood. This device is much more locked down than the OG. "Forget everything you think you know."
But at this point, the downgrade method isn't supported (yet). I already bricked my Jewel trying it (granted, that was after the downgrade was completed successfully, but still).
The team that put together the downgrading tool is still working vigorously on confirming a method that will work reliably with the new HBOOT. Stay tuned.
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The only way to downgrade your HBOOT on this device IS to brick your phone (if you're S-ON, that is). I think you misunderstood. This device is much more locked down than the OG. "Forget everything you think you know."
But at this point, the downgrade method isn't supported (yet). I already bricked my Jewel trying it (granted, that was after the downgrade was completed successfully, but still).
The team that put together the downgrading tool is still working vigorously on confirming a method that will work reliably with the new HBOOT. Stay tuned.
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^^^ This. The OG EVO and this phone are not the same. What worked on one won't necessarily work on the other. Just wait for an S-off exploit for the new Hboot, otherwise you'll end up with an expensive paperweight, like the Captain did:banghead:
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Ok I will do thanks guys.
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Along the same lines.....
Once you have S-Off can you go ahead and RUU to the latest one.
I'm experiencing a bunch of problems since S-Off and thought this might fix them?
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murphdsurf said:
Along the same lines.....
Once you have S-Off can you go ahead and RUU to the latest one.
I'm experiencing a bunch of problems since S-Off and thought this might fix them?
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What kind of problems? What ROM are you currently on? Have you updated your firmware?
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Is it? I'm not into using htcdev and I'm on hboot 1.9. I'd like to just have root access with having to flash anything. Possible?
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Is it? I'm not into using htcdev and I'm on hboot 1.9. I'd like to just have root access with having to flash anything. Possible?
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Why on earth would you not want S-OFF???
It makes everything easier, I think its redundant to make anything available to the people that are s-on or at least to the people that choose to be s-on
Get DirtyRacun S-OFF then you'll be headache free
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Why on earth would you not want S-OFF???
It makes everything easier, I think its redundant to make anything available to the people that are s-on or at least to the people that choose to be s-on
Get DirtyRacun S-OFF then you'll be headache free
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On the contrary, I'd love to be s-off, I simply choose not to use the htcdev route. I was s-off before my mini sd port took a crap and I had to swap. Sadly I now have hboot 1.19 and can no longer use panda.
So my thinking was if I can at least get root until a method to s-off doesn't involve using htcdev comes along, I'd be happy.
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On the contrary, I'd love to be s-off, I simply choose not to use the htcdev route. I was s-off before my mini sd port took a crap and I had to swap. Sadly I now have hboot 1.19 and can no longer use panda.
So my thinking was if I can at least get root until a method to s-off doesn't involve using htcdev comes along, I'd be happy.
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Why don't you want to use htcdev?
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On the contrary, I'd love to be s-off, I simply choose not to use the htcdev route. I was s-off before my mini sd port took a crap and I had to swap. Sadly I now have hboot 1.19 and can no longer use panda.
So my thinking was if I can at least get root until a method to s-off doesn't involve using htcdev comes along, I'd be happy.
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You can't flash a custom recovery without unlocking your bootloader and part of the S-OFF process requires you to unlock your bootloader using htcdev
I'm just going to assume the answer is no since everyone seems to be dancing around it. Not trying to be a jerk, it's just that almost every question I ask on this site turns into a debate rather than someone simply saying yes or no.
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No you cannot root without unlock or s-off
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No you cannot root without unlock or s-off
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Thank you.
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