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Hi all;
For some reason, within the last couple of weeks, my phone has been freezing like crazy.
I uninstalled Advanced Task Killer and I use the installed Task Manager to monitor my ram usage and it's weird.
At any given time, I only have about 40-50 mb of ram left.
On average, out of 304 it shows that something is using anywhere from 230-260 mb of ram.
I shut everything down (using the task manager...shutting down level 1 and level 2) and still there is no change. I tried to not shut anything down to see if things would work themselves out, but still my ram is being eaten up.
I even went so far as to do a factory reset, hoping that this would fix the problem, but nada!
I've uninstalled every single program that I've installed within the last week or so, but still nothing.
My phone is becoming a brick and I don't know why. Next step is to call Tmobile, but seeing that my warranty is over, I"m sure that they will rape me with a replacement fee.
Any help would be most appreciated.
What rom? I'm experiencing the very same thing. Usually this happens when I've been in a rom for a very long time.
Maybe try wiping the SD card?
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iynfynity said:
What rom? I'm experiencing the very same thing. Usually this happens when I've been in a rom for a very long time.
Maybe try wiping the SD card?
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This. But only on sense roms, just install cyanogen mod, that rom never bogs down.
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I have read that the more memory you are using the better w android. Got that....Now my question is. I am running the v6 supercharger script on aggressive while using eclipse 1.0 for. 2.3.4.. When I run the script it seems my memory goes way lower than it would without. For instance w/o running my memory is around 150 to 180. While running script its down to 80 and below, which right now is fine. My music skipping is 99% gone. (Like one quick skip during intensive applications, once at startup than butter smeared on silk). Seriously now after my tangent, my question is ; I thought the minfrees in the script kept memory available to the system, is that what it does? Or does it load the memory up so starting applications don't take up CPU speed? If the latter is the case doesnt that go against what the os is supposed to do?I'm from blackberry and loving this phone especially with nitros newest and best!!! Just want some clarifications for myself and others.
This forum + nitros work = awesome. I can't believe how fast my phone is right now compared to when I got it a month ago!!!
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I have read that the more memory you are using the better w android. Got that....Now my question is. I am running the v6 supercharger script on aggressive while using eclipse 1.0 for. 2.3.4.. When I run the script it seems my memory goes way lower than it would without. For instance w/o running my memory is around 150 to 180. While running script its down to 80 and below, which right now is fine. My music skipping is 99% gone. (Like one quick skip during intensive applications, once at startup than butter smeared on silk). Seriously now after my tangent, my question is ; I thought the minfrees in the script kept memory available to the system, is that what it does? Or does it load the memory up so starting applications don't take up CPU speed? If the latter is the case doesnt that go against what the os is supposed to do?I'm from blackberry and loving this phone especially with nitros newest and best!!! Just want some clarifications for myself and others.
This forum + nitros work = awesome. I can't believe how fast my phone is right now compared to when I got it a month ago!!!
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Memory on android (linux) doesn't work like you guys think it does. Links caches processes in memory for faster startup times later. If you're mad at stuff running in memory all the time, like a lot of noobs on here, go use another platform this is how android and Linux as a whole runs to speed things up for you on the front end.
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ilovesoad said:
Memory on android (linux) doesn't work like you guys think it does. Links caches processes in memory for faster startup times later. If you're mad at stuff running in memory all the time, like a lot of noobs on here, go use another platform this is how android and Linux as a whole runs to speed things up for you on the front end.
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Yea I am a noob... where in my question did I say I wanted more memory? Are you a noob at reading? I asked if the script I am using goes against the principle of using memory or if it is in fact filling it. Forgive me if I was unclear, but a Smiley in your post doesn't make up for a snide reply. I've only been using android for over a month and i have learned quite a bit already. Just wanted a little clarification/
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Memory on android (linux) doesn't work like you guys think it does. Links caches processes in memory for faster startup times later. If you're mad at stuff running in memory all the time, like a lot of noobs on here, go use another platform this is how android and Linux as a whole runs to speed things up for you on the front end.
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I have always said that im not looking so much for a higher number where I see free ram. I just didn't want my ram being used AT ALL by apps/processes that I don't touch AT ALL. Thus allowing me to have more "free ram" for the things I DO USE which of course makes my phone "run faster/smoother" as my system doesn't have ti drop an app I am not using to allow enough ram to go to the one I am opening.
Just felt.like putting my 2cents sorry.
And I only use v6 supercharger for oom grouping fix as that's what I found benefits the.phones operations. Its not the minfree adjustments that help so much as the groupings fix that comes along with it. At least that's what I've found with my experience /experiments
try it. U SHOULD notice same silky buttery results
Everyone seems to find different results tho but it's worth a try. I feel like gingerbread minfrees are fine where they are. Oom grouping fix is what's helping/needed for smoother operations
It just gets old with people complaining about their lack of memory. Supercharger and speedy etc work by other ways. The free memory is (almost) inconsequential.
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It just gets old with people complaining about their lack of memory. Supercharger and speedy etc work by other ways. The free memory is (almost) inconsequential.
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I can understand what your saying. I was by no means complaining. I am loving how my phone is running. Just wanted some information on what these scripts are doing. From what I understand they free memory up, which goes against what I read is opposite of how the phone should work. Either way phone runs like sh*t thru a goose!!
You can't blame people for complaining about the memory problems. Between the 384 MB RAM and Motorola's inability to program, this phone multitasks worse than an iPhone on iOS 1.
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This thread needs closed. Not b/c of the OP but b/c of the back handed comments to the OP..if he/she wants to spend time finding the best way to have more free RAM then he should be allowed to inquire, after searching first, w/out people back handing him, but this wouldn't be XDA if you folks let this go.
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I have read that the more memory you are using the better w android. Got that....Now my question is. I am running the v6 supercharger script on aggressive while using eclipse 1.0 for. 2.3.4.. When I run the script it seems my memory goes way lower than it would without. For instance w/o running my memory is around 150 to 180. While running script its down to 80 and below, which right now is fine. My music skipping is 99% gone. (Like one quick skip during intensive applications, once at startup than butter smeared on silk). Seriously now after my tangent, my question is ; I thought the minfrees in the script kept memory available to the system, is that what it does? Or does it load the memory up so starting applications don't take up CPU speed? If the latter is the case doesnt that go against what the os is supposed to do?I'm from blackberry and loving this phone especially with nitros newest and best!!! Just want some clarifications for myself and others.
This forum + nitros work = awesome. I can't believe how fast my phone is right now compared to when I got it a month ago!!!
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Basically what these scripts do is change the limit for when Android "needs" to kill a running process. Different types of processes are assigned an OOM or Out Of Memory group. when free memory reaches your limit you choose in these scripts Android starts killing off apps with the least amount of "value" so if say you've picked a setting in your script that says you want 80mb free, as long as you have 80mb or more free it leaves the idle processes alone, the second it dips below 80 Android starts killing idle processes to free up memory and continuing on killing processes until it's back to the preprogrammed "safe levels".
I probably got something wrong there or left something out/mixed something up, I haven't slept in 2 days but, that's the jist of it.
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Basically what these scripts do is change the limit for when Android "needs" to kill a running process. Different types of processes are assigned an OOM or Out Of Memory group. when free memory reaches your limit you choose in these scripts Android starts killing off apps with the least amount of "value" so if say you've picked a setting in your script that says you want 80mb free, as long as you have 80mb or more free it leaves the idle processes alone, the second it dips below 80 Android starts killing idle processes to free up memory and continuing on killing processes until it's back to the preprogrammed "safe levels".
I probably got something wrong there or left something out/mixed something up, I haven't slept in 2 days but, that's the jist of it.
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Thanks man... I appreciate the info. I really don't worry about free memory at all. That was not my intention in this thread. I am new to android and when I pick something up I wanna learn as much as I can about it. Asking questions is usually the best way to find answers haha.
To the poster that asked for this thread to be closed, I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't worry about petty things posted on the internet. I told him what I thought and that's that...
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Thanks man... I appreciate the info. I really don't worry about free memory at all. That was not my intention in this thread. I am new to android and when I pick something up I wanna learn as much as I can about it. Asking questions is usually the best way to find answers haha.
To the poster that asked for this thread to be closed, I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't worry about petty things posted on the internet. I told him what I thought and that's that...
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You're welcome, I'm just like you, I like to know how stuff works. You've probably heard it before but, a well phrased google search really is your best friend. You might have to skim over a dozen pages before you really find what you want to know but have the battle is knowing some key terms. Like "minfrees" "OOM groupings" etc. Also I believe zeppelinrocks OP on supercharger script has a lot of the info you're looking for. Just keep reading, keep google searching new terms you learn, keep asking questions, and most importantly don't get discouraged.
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You're welcome, I'm just like you, I like to know how stuff works. You've probably heard it before but, a well phrased google search really is your best friend. You might have to skim over a dozen pages before you really find what you want to know but have the battle is knowing some key terms. Like "minfrees" "OOM groupings" etc. Also I believe zeppelinrocks OP on supercharger script has a lot of the info you're looking for. Just keep reading, keep google searching new terms you learn, keep asking questions, and most importantly don't get discouraged.
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+1 Zepps supercharger thread is GREAT and had so much info! I learned a lot reading some of that thread.
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See, it's the attitude exhibited by people like ilovesoad that burns my ass.
Linux "gurus" that preach that memory must be as full as possible and it won't effect performance.
That's Bull****.
Guess what?
Linux is for PCs. So why the hell should Android be configured like it's a PC?
Yeah great, background apps load quicker when ram is full. Big deal.
What good is that when the dialer lags like hell? It's a phone ffs.
I don't need a ram filled, laggy phone that does **** that I don't care about in the background.
Fact is, when memory is too full, it bogs down to the point that you want to pull your hair out.
On the flipside, any given device won't get any performance increase over a certain level of free RAM.
So I try and find settings that match up to a devices "lag level" - the point at which free RAM gets low enough to slow the system down.
The faster the phone, the more free ram it needs free so that the cpu doesn't get bottlenecked by too little ram.
Anything above that is pointless.
So on my Milestone, which doesn't have much ram anyway, the lag level is about 25 - 30 mb - so that's what I set slot 3 at for 256 mb devices.
For 512mb devices I got ALOT of input in order to determine that a 512mb device will start to lag anywhere between 50 -80 mb or so... so that's why I have slot 3 in that ballpark for my 512mb device settings.
So that's what it does - finds the balance between performance and multitasking - while getting rid of the damn laggy launcher once and for all.
zeppelinrox said:
See, it's the attitude exhibited by people like ilovesoad that burns my ass.
Linux "gurus" that preach that memory must be as full as possible and it won't effect performance.
That's Bull****.
Guess what?
Linux is for PCs. So why the hell should Android be configured like it's a PC?
Yeah great, background apps load quicker when ram is full. Big deal.
What good is that when the dialer lags like hell? It's a phone ffs.
I don't need a ram filled, laggy phone that does **** that I don't care about in the background.
Fact is, when memory is too full, it bogs down to the point that you want to pull your hair out.
On the flipside, any given device won't get any performance increase over a certain level of free RAM.
So I try and find settings that match up to a devices "lag level" - the point at which free RAM gets low enough to slow the system down.
The faster the phone, the more free ram it needs free so that the cpu doesn't get bottlenecked by too little ram.
Anything above that is pointless.
So on my Milestone, which doesn't have much ram anyway, the lag level is about 25 - 30 mb - so that's what I set slot 3 at for 256 mb devices.
For 512mb devices I got ALOT of input in order to determine that a 512mb device will start to lag anywhere between 50 -80 mb or so... so that's why I have slot 3 in that ballpark for my 512mb device settings.
So that's what it does - finds the balance between performance and multitasking - while getting rid of the damn laggy launcher once and for all.
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Thanks a lot for responding, you answered my question and put the smack down too lol. Script is running fine and phone is fast fast fast. I even use a lwp now with no lag!!!!
heh.. yeah.. it was late and I was tired and gumpy but the rant felt great lol
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heh.. yeah.. it was late and I was tired and gumpy but the rant felt great lol
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Tired/buzzing/don't care rants feel the best...I did one of the don't care rants on the moto soak test forum. Felt damn good to get it out there
Is there a way to increase my RAM memory? I tried partition SD but it just increases my internal memory..
Thank you in advanced!
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maybe it have a software on market but i dont remember it
Nope. From the factory we have a misleading 512mb. I say that due to the fact that something like 170mb is automatically eaten up by the Android system. Leaving us with a meager 340mb. In the beginning kernel makers were tweaking the amount we had available but it left other things broken. We can never have more ram available without ruining other processes. And adding a new chip of ram like a pc is absolutely out of the question. May I ask why do you need more ram? Are your homescreens widget city? I've needed to compromise which widgets I use but thanks to circle launcher makes it not half bad.
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One of the things that I do when I flash a new ROM is delete all the /system/apps that I do not use. Well, delete isn't really the right word. I move them over to a folder on my external, so just in case I ever want to reinstall them, I can just move them back to /system/app, wipe Dalvik and reboot and viola they are there. Another thing that I also do is if I don't know about a certain app and what it does, I'll use TBPro to freeze it and wait for a few days to see if there are any adverse effect. If not, then I'll uninstall, If so, then I will defrost and make note.
The reason I mention this is, aside from being in widget/homescreen hell, there are system apps that you may not need/use that are running and taking up unneccessary RAM. Example: If you never use Maps, then move it out and that service (locator- I think it is) won't be running in the background.
There are times that I opened a lot of apps,some still runs in background even if i already closed it and it decreases the performance of my phone.. I have a friend who have a Samsung Ace and he was able to add up memory of his ram..I did the same thing and it just adds up on my internal SD... just wondering if that is something to do with tweaking.. by the way I'm on MIUI
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There are times that I opened a lot of apps,some still runs in background even if i already closed it and it decreases the performance of my phone.. I have a friend who have a Samsung Ace and he was able to add up memory of his ram..I did the same thing and it just adds up on my internal SD... just wondering if that is something to do with tweaking.. by the way I'm on MIUI
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Any of the "hacks" to get more memory on this phone will result in either lower performance or breaking something or both. That's why there's not anything around for "increasing" memory.
Any by the way, he probably added a swap partition on his phone, which NONE of the roms for vibrant support/have implemented.
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Well try what I do. Im using startup manager and blocking which apps are allowed to startup without me starting them. Start up cleaner is free and appears to do the same thing. Much better than freezing in titanium because they are still useable. A VERY few apps might start up anyway but who cares you will be in much better shape overall.
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I've got myself a 9305, the first day the battery life was awful the battery graph was in free fall. Data usage for the first 6 hours was well over 1 Gb.
I have installed the usual social apps and a couple of smaller games and am now over 10gb used on my system storage. I have come from a DHD that I had the latest custom roms installed, used a2sd and merrily has 130+ apps installed.
I am not rooted yet, but my question to you is what's taking up all that space? I have looked through the internal storage and not found anything large. I do have 600 fully complete Google contacts and 1000+ Picasa images 900 tracks uploaded to Music, are the indices that large?
I will be rooting soon enough when there's a range of roms available. In the meantime any suggestions more than welcome. Thanks
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Well...130+apps installed is quite alot. Alongwith 1000 photos or whatever. Its like a penny. You can find loads of them and it wouldnt be much value until it adds upto a pound. That pound will turn into more. Just like your photos. They could be 1kb each (probably not) and as you add more it will become 1gb before you know it. Along with cache. You could try delete some cache. Or when you get root delete system apps or add a vanilla rom (plain no bloatware)
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I agree that was a lot of apps, but never hit a problem. I don't think at this rate I could install enough apps to cover two pages.
This can't be typical as I'm sure there would be an outcry.
Thanks for the reply though, appreciate it.
I'm going to factory reset in case this handset took a wrong turn somewhere.
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I agree that was a lot of apps, but never hit a problem. I don't think at this rate I could install enough apps to cover two pages.
This can't be typical as I'm sure there would be an outcry.
Thanks for the reply though, appreciate it.
I'm going to factory reset in case this handset took a wrong turn somewhere.
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Woah...2pages??? You should of hit at least 5! This is information that would of been helpful as this is nowhere near normal for an s3. do Try to reset it and see if that helps.
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Get the app disk usage and see what is using your storage up
I tried using windirstat but could only analyse the sd card.
Used Astro to browse about but couldn't see much wrong, without root I guess there's a lot hiding.
I have factory reset and installed most of the apps back and am using less than a gig at this point.
I should have done this more scientifically but it seems at this point the issue is resolved but with no real information to pass on to a future sufferer. I'll report back when the usage is similar to when I put the first post.
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Hey guys, long time no see. I've recently came back to Android after a longtime hiatus with iOS. Nonetheless, I've acquired a 64GB HTC One. Although they guy I got it from didn't specify it being rooted, the device has been, and I even found a rom.zip on the root of the card. I've since deleted it, however, I believe it was labeled "Stock AT&T, Rooted, Deoxed". That's a fine and whatever, as I planned on rooting the device anyway, however, I have a HUGE "Other" usage under storage. The total size of it is 14.75GB. Can someone explain what in the world is taking up that much space? I've ran an analysis using ES File Explorer, but it shows the folder taking up the most space is my music. I can't pinpoint where all this data is.
are you on 4.2.2?
I am as of now. This thread can be closed, flashing Android Revolution cleared up the issue
In case you come across this issue again, I use an app called "memory usage" that gives you a detailed breakdown of what's using what storage. Been using it for ages. Very simple to use, and it really helps track down folders and files that eat up a lot of space.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsIm9yZy5yamouYW5kcm9pZC5tZW1vcnltb25pdG9yIl0.
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In case you come across this issue again, I use an app called "memory usage" that gives you a detailed breakdown of what's using what storage. Been using it for ages. Very simple to use, and it really helps track down folders and files that eat up a lot of space.
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I am having a similar issue. Almost 9Gb usage is listed under "other", this in a 32 Gb HTC One(AT&T). The memory usage app does not show anything that would contribute to this 9Gb usage.
Any ideas on what it could be?
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I am having a similar issue. Almost 9Gb usage is listed under "other", this in a 32 Gb HTC One(AT&T). The memory usage app does not show anything that would contribute to this 9Gb usage.
Any ideas on what it could be?
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Post a screen shot of what the app shows you. I've always been able to track down erroneous storage issues with it.
Did you flash 4.2 without wiping your sd card?
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I hadnt wiped the sd card.
Attaching the screenshots from the "memory usage" app as well as the "Usage" results. Apparently I goofed with my first post, the other section has 7Gb usage. Still pretty high.
Wipe your sd card like you're supposed to do
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