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Just wondering if we can get 2.3.3 on X10i and ARE you still good on x10i?
I don't use and play much about hardware, I spent a lot of time with apps from market and flashed new ROM released (Now 6.1.3 V05 Cyanogen). Just want to use it for daily / generally.
I love my x10i. It's really nice phone designed. But I also love to have newer coming technology.
Confusing myself!!! Please advice...
Sony is releasing an official v2.3.3 gingerbread for our x10 in the end of q2, if you wanna wait then wait, if not then the arc is a mighty fine phone
I'm staying with my x10 for a while more cause I love the phone and I'm broken so I can't buy a new phone lol
Ok i got some money, i long time ago thinking change my x10 to ...
Now my x10i running on 2.3 v3 thx to Wolfbreak Im really appreciate this. Thx
Now im thinking between buying an ARC - mainly cause of the HDMI, and Sony- and SGSII -hardware capability- I read some article, post about challenging the 2 phone. And now stuck so many pros and cons on both side.
So which 1 you choose: stay with x10i, SGSII, ARC (optionaly Xplay? )
I'd stick to x10i for now because with wolf's 2.3.3 it really is pretty fast and stable, thus making it a good phone that can compete with most newer phones running on stock roms.
I don't know how things are in hungary, but here you usually get the best deals around christmas time and new stuff will be released continuously until then, I'd say lay low, read the news about upcoming handsets and make your decision then.
It all depends on what are your expectations from a smartphone and what u use it for mainly.
The X10 with 2.3 is a good phone imo and i'm pretty astisfied with it.
The Arc is an improved X10 - better screen / camera / performance ; but it's rly not that different.
The SGS II is in a total different cathegory with it's dual-core processor , but unless u are rly into opening apps in 1ms and stuff like that u won't notice such a big difference between ARC and SGS II.
The Play i would recommend only if u are a heavy gamer
U can just keep the X10 for now and w8 for the next generation of smartphones (maby quad-core or who nows )
It all comes down to what u use the phone for and what are your expectations D:
man!
there's no comparison between X10i, arc and SGS2 !
X10i is now outdated but still good for basic functionality,
if you can afford don't look at Arc, go for SGS2, its a Rocket, and you won't disappoint with its quality and features!
SGS2 is good but bad screen quality cause the type if screen it does. I will recommend you buy the Arc:
- 16 million colors but I don't think you eyes can process all colors at once.
- The camera sensor and front camera.
- The launcher is very beautiful and I don't want to look at the SGS2 cause the such ugly launcher.
- Bootloader unlocked and If you want TouchQuiz, you will have (I don't know exactly how boot loader works but as I know from HTC announcement that you can install other ROM from other device on your Arc. (Maybe SamSung does)
- etc.
But I don't think it's good ideo to compare X10 to these 2 phones and I think you know why. Brilliant.
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Ok i got some money, i long time ago thinking change my x10 to ...
Now my x10i running on 2.3 v3 thx to Wolfbreak Im really appreciate this. Thx
Now im thinking between buying an ARC - mainly cause of the HDMI, and Sony- and SGSII -hardware capability- I read some article, post about challenging the 2 phone. And now stuck so many pros and cons on both side.
So which 1 you choose: stay with x10i, SGSII, ARC (optionaly Xplay? )
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If you have to, buy a sammy 2, if not, dont buy any and wait
jus wait wid x10 after wolf's 2.3 even i stopped my plan to buy a new one ..will wait until sony launches it dual core ...love the arc launcher though !!!
anyways else go for HTC Evo 4g or Sensation 4G
Don't rush to buy now. Everybody insists on the difference of the phones HOWEVER, that's better is about to come.
There are rumors by Eldar, the russian blogger, that Samsung wants to put out even a better phone - ahead of Iphone 5 (and that's why the law suit etc).
So instead of paying now and then in 2-3 months already a new one is on the market, please stick with X10 and then you upgrade afterwards.
The trouble with SG2 is the 3 second lag and the interface freezes from time to time, and depending on your (bad) luck, you might get one which has problems with the screen. Arc is still Sony, has house cracking issues, check online ...
Wolf just release a mod without FPS cap and no audio lag for X10.
So just hang in there
sgs2 is by far the best out of your choices...
anyone who says otherwise is an se fanboy.
Sgs2 and Arc are awesome but you should stick.with the x10(its not THAT far behind) cause by the end of the year i bet there will be new improved models and you have time to save more money
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Okay guys,
All of us know about the imminent ICS update that our phones are receiving/will receive. Users of Ray, Neo V and Arc S have already the chance to upgrade to 4.0 version of the little robot.
But, after reading reviews or watching videos, i can notice that there are many voices of displeasure about the update. Phones getting slower, battery drains, HD games lagging or just not working...
What do you think:
-In this month, Will Sony develop a reworked version of the update (fixing all bugs described), releasing it for first time for the next phones in the list -XM, XMP, LWW, Arc, Neo, Pro-, and also for the phones that have already received the first update?
-What will you do? Will you update and keep ICS? Will you just test? Or you will stay on GB?
More info will be appreciated (official news, ...)
sorry for my english
This should not be a problem.
If you dont like the official ics roms, you can always go back to stock gb.
Or just make a custom ics roms based on the official ics.
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well.
Well man as i am a user o xperia NEO V and had this update,I think that it does not worth it...it is laggier/some apps not working and the overall speed of my phone had ruined..Not that much,but as i play HD games, I can feel the difference...Finally,it is useful that games based on orientation are not working on my ICS NEO V,but were working smoothly on GingerBread ICS neo v!
Conlcusively,as i have unlocked the bootloader of my second phone XperiaMiniPRO and tried ICS on beta stage...i think that this small screen is not for ics...Gingerbread is more smooth,better,better and better
I dont think that SONY will fix these bugs for now,i cant predict for summer but I really hope!
Izzy Stinson said:
This should not be a problem.
If you dont like the official ics roms, you can always go back to stock gb.
Or just make a custom ics roms based on the official ics.
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Thread closed? you would be kidding hehehe
This is opinion, GENERAL discussion about our devices. This topic concerns to all of us. It's OBVIOUS that BETTER ICS custom roms will exist after the release of the update. Please give more mature opinions
About djnik7... I think, would ICS run faster on the mdpi devices? i think, as the screen resolution is smaller than the Neo V, Ray, etc., the processor has to deal with less graphics to run...
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Thread closed? you would be kidding hehehe
This is opinion, GENERAL discussion about our devices. This topic concerns to all of us. It's OBVIOUS that BETTER ICS custom roms will exist after the release of the update. Please give more mature opinions
About djnik7... I think, would ICS run faster on the mdpi devices? i think, as the screen resolution is smaller than the Neo V, Ray, etc., the processor has to deal with less graphics to run...
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alright then my opinion is, the official ics will not run any better on our devices. although im still not sure because we havent even taste it yet.
but due to other xperia users who has has experienced ics, most of them complaining about it, like slow fps, high usage of battery and ram and that kind of stuff but yet im still not sure,
because who knows ics made for lww, xmp xm or active are probably different than ics that are already came to ray, neo v, arc s and it could probably be even better.
so our bet is just wait and try it for ourself
if one not satisfy of its performance, just wait for an updates 2.4.2, 2.4.4 and so on or just go back to stock gb 2.3 or maybe wait for someone make an ics roms that are based on the official ics.
Will certainly test ICS, after that we will see.
A small note to previous user: ICS is Android 4.0, not 2.4
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Will certainly test ICS, after that we will see.
A small note to previous user: ICS is Android 4.0, not 2.4
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my mistake, i have been confused about android version. so yeah ics is 4.0 not 2.4
Anyone tried ICS for xperia mini yet?? Please give feedback about the rom used. I would like to see which ICS for XM I wanna use thanks!
anyone? :highfive:
I can say only about official ICS.
I was excited about update and the wait was painful, but when was released, I reverted back to old official rooted firmware with Launcher Pro and alot of stock aps removed.
I don't like the new ICS. The interface is realy ugly in my opinion. It looks like an alpha build without a proper theme. The text is fuzzy, but there is a font size feature. The small is useless, the medium looks more fuzzy than in GB and large is way to large.
What can you do in ICS and can't do in GB ? The only cool feature I found is the integrated advanced data traffic monitor, and larger file size on photos. (but the camera apk was redesigned with bad interface) In GB I installed a modded camera apk with better quality compression for photos and videos, and the default data monitor is enough for me (update v6)
They say the ICS require better hardware. I don't know how it works with games, because I am not interested, but from other Xperia phones I heard that performance is worse.
For me, ICS brings nothing great for my Mini. Maybe is better for other phones but for Mini the long awaited ICS looks like its ported in a rush in few days. Maybe Android 5 will worth the update.
ionutph said:
I can say only about official ICS.
I was excited about update and the wait was painful, but when was released, I reverted back to old official rooted firmware with Launcher Pro and alot of stock aps removed.
I don't like the new ICS. The interface is realy ugly in my opinion. It looks like an alpha build without a proper theme. The text is fuzzy, but there is a font size feature. The small is useless, the medium looks more fuzzy than in GB and large is way to large.
What can you do in ICS and can't do in GB ? The only cool feature I found is the integrated advanced data traffic monitor, and larger file size on photos. (but the camera apk was redesigned with bad interface) In GB I installed a modded camera apk with better quality compression for photos and videos, and the default data monitor is enough for me (update v6)
They say the ICS require better hardware. I don't know how it works with games, because I am not interested, but from other Xperia phones I heard that performance is worse.
For me, ICS brings nothing great for my Mini. Maybe is better for other phones but for Mini the long awaited ICS looks like its ported in a rush in few days. Maybe Android 5 will worth the update.
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hey thanks for the feedback. arh.. im getting so confused now. UI is nothing big for me as I use go launcher.. Main thing for me is performance. Some say its better some its worse and some the same .. Lets see any custom ICS will be better
I found MiniCMSandwich Lite AOSP from kamarush pretty descent and fast.
ionutph said:
Maybe Android 5 will worth the update.
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Actually there will be Android 4.1, and there might be even a chance to get updates for it.
ionutph said:
I can say only about official ICS.
I was excited about update and the wait was painful, but when was released, I reverted back to old official rooted firmware with Launcher Pro and alot of stock aps removed.
I don't like the new ICS. The interface is realy ugly in my opinion. It looks like an alpha build without a proper theme. The text is fuzzy, but there is a font size feature. The small is useless, the medium looks more fuzzy than in GB and large is way to large.
What can you do in ICS and can't do in GB ? The only cool feature I found is the integrated advanced data traffic monitor, and larger file size on photos. (but the camera apk was redesigned with bad interface) In GB I installed a modded camera apk with better quality compression for photos and videos, and the default data monitor is enough for me (update v6)
They say the ICS require better hardware. I don't know how it works with games, because I am not interested, but from other Xperia phones I heard that performance is worse.
For me, ICS brings nothing great for my Mini. Maybe is better for other phones but for Mini the long awaited ICS looks like its ported in a rush in few days. Maybe Android 5 will worth the update.
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i agree with u but one thing about ics is all app ,games etc. before it ur can used in gb now doesnt work on ics and it not only happen to xperia mini or to sony only....so still with gb and wait till ics realy2 stable...
This is not problen of ics but apps,games which not ready fo ics.
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madhouses said:
This is not problen of ics but apps,games which not ready fo ics.
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yap agree but we got some new os update but old app and games can't run on it
ionutph said:
I can say only about official ICS.
I was excited about update and the wait was painful, but when was released, I reverted back to old official rooted firmware with Launcher Pro and alot of stock aps removed.
I don't like the new ICS. The interface is realy ugly in my opinion. It looks like an alpha build without a proper theme. The text is fuzzy, but there is a font size feature. The small is useless, the medium looks more fuzzy than in GB and large is way to large.
What can you do in ICS and can't do in GB ? The only cool feature I found is the integrated advanced data traffic monitor, and larger file size on photos. (but the camera apk was redesigned with bad interface) In GB I installed a modded camera apk with better quality compression for photos and videos, and the default data monitor is enough for me (update v6)
They say the ICS require better hardware. I don't know how it works with games, because I am not interested, but from other Xperia phones I heard that performance is worse.
For me, ICS brings nothing great for my Mini. Maybe is better for other phones but for Mini the long awaited ICS looks like its ported in a rush in few days. Maybe Android 5 will worth the update.
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How I can Get the Modded Camera.apk ?
John Cooper, UK Product Manager for Sony Mobile, has been taking questions from customers on Facebook and, perhaps inadvertently, revealed that both the Sony Ericsson Xperia arc S and Xperia mini pro will not receive the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update.
We have been waiting for Sony to make an official statement on their Jelly Bean upgrade plans and this is the first concrete news we have on the matter. The Xperia arc S was the highest specced 2011 Sony Xperia handset, so if this handset isn’t getting it we can conclude that none of the other Xperia handsets from the 2011 range will get the update either. However, the 2012 Xperia range do look likely to get the update, although timing remains an unknown right now.
Its funny that many of the 2012 Xperia handsets have lower specs than the 2011 models. It sux! anw, we can hope for a developer to port JB for 2011 Xperia lineup. & Cynomod10 is coming with JB
Credit goes to www.xperiablog.net
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/07/26/official-2011-sony-xperia-handsets-will-not-get-android-4-1-jelly-bean/
They have made a mistake
Xperia 2011 handets should have had that minor upgrade to Jelly Bean, especially given the performance issues. Also, it means those handsets are stuck permanently on 2.6 Linux kernel, unless one goes the custom ROMs way. Thankfully, Cyanogenmod devs are supporting Xperia Mini Pro, so I am starting on a quest to root my SK17i.
Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
It's a shame, but it was expected...
Yeah, i also expect 2012 xperias will probably get Jelly Bean update around this time next year (+/- couple months), just before Key Lime Pie comes out
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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but google successfully made JB for nexus S right? it has the same specs as the xperia 2011 lineup sooo sad
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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I wonder....
does anyone remember Xperia x10i? the funniest was they came from Donut 1.6 to GingerBread 2.3. they've got 3 official FW update.. and me guess we still have a chance.. Our device is not low range since we have 512 ram inside. and some of Xperia 2012 family also have the same type.
I was expecting this. They won't update 2011 xperia phones to JB. But they will update 2012 xperias. If I buy another phone, it won't be a Sony. Maybe a Nexus 7 but not a Sony. I was very disappointed with the ICS update. Can't imagine a JB for our phones, maybe to slow...
Long live to Gingerbread! xD
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Jelly Bean would be slow on our phones if official update was done. Sony will push own Timescape UI inside instead of Butter UI, so we don't get any performance improvements in UI.
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I dont't think Timescape has anything to do with Butter
Anyway, I'm not surprised, but they could change their minds if community presses them enough. As I remember, HTC upgraded Desire to GB even though they said phone was underpowered (for sense bloatware).
I smell some "business politic" here from sony.
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I wasn't really expecting that our 2011 Xperia phones would get 4.1. But I'm going to flash a custom rom when it's available
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who cares about their update...cyanogenmod 10 alpha has rolled out..have to tell its much more faster than GB..wait for fue for days l get the beta version of bug free ...just waiting to get beta cm10.
The thing is that to be able to create stable custom roms you need support from the manufacturer. Without proper source code or hardware drivers/libraries that suit the new OS developers have to tack everything together which greatly increases the chances of bugs.
IMHO the least thing Sony could do is provide a proper hardware layer to developers to give them a solid base to work from. Nobody really needs the Sony customisations anyway so they could actually save a lot of development time there.
Personally I'd wish all android phones came with AOSP, like what Apple and Microsoft do. It saves the manufacturers a lot of development and opens the way for more frequent/longer OS updates.
All hope of custom rom
**** Sony, where's Ericsson when we need him?
pfonck said:
The thing is that to be able to create stable custom roms you need support from the manufacturer. Without proper source code or hardware drivers/libraries that suit the new OS developers have to tack everything together which greatly increases the chances of bugs.
IMHO the least thing Sony could do is provide a proper hardware layer to developers to give them a solid base to work from. Nobody really needs the Sony customisations anyway so they could actually save a lot of development time there.
Personally I'd wish all android phones came with AOSP, like what Apple and Microsoft do. It saves the manufacturers a lot of development and opens the way for more frequent/longer OS updates.
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Correct.
Nicely Explained Brother:good:
Here is example!
1.Bravia Engine wont work without proper supported lib files
2.Same will happen with xLoud
But we can force SONY to give us JB update
If majority of all the customers keep on telling them about the update for 2011 Family, after all customers are the only strength of any COMPANY
What say guys?
Yeah yeah yeah! As what I have expected from SONY!
Come on guys! This isnt the first time so stop relying on this b*llsh*t company. We have the developers here and they are even better than those "INCOMPETENT" developers from Sony.
So stop crying over spilled milk and just wait for JB port to our devices :good:
zerorated24 said:
Come on guys! This isnt the first time so stop relying on this b*llsh*t company. We have the developers here and they are even better than those "INCOMPETENT" developers from Sony.
So stop crying over spilled milk and just wait for JB port to our devices :good:
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Well... There is
And i agree, Not only the developers here are better, they also keep updating us with Alpha, Nightly and Beta builds all the time, and they're also open for suggestions
I don't know why people keel slagging off Sony as a company?
Personally I buy an SE phone for the hardware (who else makes a tiny phone with a useable hardware keyboard?) while knowing you can optimise the thing to personal taste by modding the firmware and using apps.
As for updates the Mini Pro got 200% of what it's predecessor got (the X10 Mini Pro which only got Eclair).
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very sad news for xperia 2011 series, but im now testing CyanogenMod10 Alpha rom in lww but its have lot of bugs hope it will fix soon
And I was right! 4.1 probably coming after all!
We are actively investigating Android OS upgrades for all devices, but in the meantime, our Ice Cream Sandwich rollout for Xperia S and 2011 Xperia smartphones continues as planned.
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