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Any word yet on a solid release date for ICS on the Xperia S?
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To avoid 1500 threads being created around this same thing I have created this thread as the official ICS discussion thread for the Xperia S.
I dont really understand Sony's policy about software , you're creating a new phone which relaesed in feb 2012 and the most current software is ice cream sandwich and the phone comes with gingerbread , it sounds like you creating a high end notebook and it comes with vista ,
you sucks Sony , believe me I'm telling this just buying Xperia S a few hours ago .
even though u sucks , u dont destroy my feelings about sony
Therollingstone said:
I dont really understand Sony's policy about software , you're creating a new phone which relaesed in feb 2012 and the most current software is ice cream sandwich and the phone comes with gingerbread , it sounds like you creating a high end notebook and it comes with vista ,
you sucks Sony , believe me I'm telling this just buying Xperia S a few hours ago .
even though u sucks , u dont destroy my feelings about sony
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We'll just have to hope that they work hard optimising it.. I prefer a delayed optimised ICS than a crappy worthless update
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They don't say that ICS release will be end March early April ?
arc_u said:
They don't say that ICS release will be end March early April ?
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Yea, I read that as well. In fact, I read it on that Playstation news app last night
MasterLinuxer said:
We'll just have to hope that they work hard optimising it.. I prefer a delayed optimised ICS than a crappy worthless update
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i 2nd that.
MasterLinuxer said:
We'll just have to hope that they work hard optimising it.. I prefer a delayed optimised ICS than a crappy worthless update
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I totally get what you say, but you don't want to wait for ages to put an outdated but optimized OS on your phone? I hope for some BETA tester ROM release from Sony on Xperia S forum as well.
I'm not sure we have to wait all that much longer...
They said it can be end of March/early April, I would assume they would try and release it around then, or at least that beta you speak of. I don't think Sony wants to adopt SE's update reputation, so I would hope they would release it around when they said they will release it.
Jelly Bean is in the works, sure, but it's all down to rumors at the moment to when it will be actually released. If we are one update behind for awhile, I don't really care as long as it's optimized for the phone, and not some half-baked, rushed OS port.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/28/android-5-release-date-jelly-bean_n_1306952.html
I will say that coming from a Nexus S which was running CM9 (ICS), the interface Sony has put on top of Gingerbread does a great job. I thought I'd hate taking the step back but other than a few little bits, it's not that big of a difference. Things like the themed progress bars and buttons really remove some of the ugliness that GB still had.
Don't get me wrong, I am VERY excited about ICS on this device but I don't miss ICS as much as I thought I would. I can certainly hold on for a few weeks.
Nimche said:
I totally get what you say, but you don't want to wait for ages to put an outdated but optimized OS on your phone? I hope for some BETA tester ROM release from Sony on Xperia S forum as well.
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For the general public, beta roms with problems can cause much more damage reputation-wise (aka "this phone sucks, it crashes all the time lol").
Also, I like how Asus has pushed fast ICS releases for the Transformer, but it does not yet have the stability of the previous HC version. Picking up your tablet/phone for a 3 minutes read and seeing it reboot spontaneously is not that great
So I prefer Sony to be a bit late and get a good ICS release at the first try. And when it comes to the Arc/Arc S, we will know the XPS version will be close
PandaVoyageur said:
For the general public, beta roms with problems can cause much more damage reputation-wise (aka "this phone sucks, it crashes all the time lol").
Also, I like how Asus has pushed fast ICS releases for the Transformer, but it does not yet have the stability of the previous HC version. Picking up your tablet/phone for a 3 minutes read and seeing it reboot spontaneously is not that great
So I prefer Sony to be a bit late and get a good ICS release at the first try. And when it comes to the Arc/Arc S, we will know the XPS version will be close
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What I would be suggesting is for them to work harder to hit the market at a right time with fully optimized upgrade. If they don't want loss of customer like what they did back in X10 time, they need to still work faster and base on 2011 model upgrade and what we saw, they are on a right track.
Nimche said:
What I would be suggesting is for them to work harder to hit the market at a right time with fully optimized upgrade. If they don't want loss of customer like what they did back in X10 time, they need to still work faster and base on 2011 model upgrade and what we saw, they are on a right track.
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How many brands have upgraded their lineup to ICS so far "at a right time and fully optimized"? If Sony delivers an upgrade before end of Q2 they're still in a comparable time with other brands unless all the others suddenly deliver it in the following 1-2 months, because so far only Samsung (that is the biggest Android manufacturer at the moment) is barely pointing to an imminent SGS2 upgrade (based on rumors, not even officially yet).
Therollingstone said:
I dont really understand Sony's policy about software , you're creating a new phone which relaesed in feb 2012 and the most current software is ice cream sandwich and the phone comes with gingerbread , it sounds like you creating a high end notebook and it comes with vista ,
you sucks Sony , believe me I'm telling this just buying Xperia S a few hours ago .
even though u sucks , u dont destroy my feelings about sony
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Here's your choice.
1.Be the first that has ICS.
2.Wait 2 more months and get a fully optimised ICS, totally optimised for your phone. That probably runs better than a HTC or Samsung on ICS with the same specs.
btw ICS isn't a super drastic update or something, you're acting like it's the difference between Window 3.11 and Windows 7.
Razje said:
Here's your choice.
2.Wait 2 more months and get a fully optimised ICS, totally optimised for your phone. That probably runs better than a HTC or Samsung on ICS with the same specs.
btw ICS isn't a super drastic update or something, you're acting like it's the difference between Window 3.11 and Windows 7.
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I agree
Alien987 said:
How many brands have upgraded their lineup to ICS so far "at a right time and fully optimized"? If Sony delivers an upgrade before end of Q2 they're still in a comparable time with other brands unless all the others suddenly deliver it in the following 1-2 months, because so far only Samsung (that is the biggest Android manufacturer at the moment) is barely pointing to an imminent SGS2 upgrade (based on rumors, not even officially yet).
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Htc have already released ics for their sensation phones, also alot of manufacturers would have phones released next month with ics onboard.
I'm not buying the Xperia S until the ics update comes out, it just doesn't feel right to spend $600+ aud on a high end phone that comes with a 1.5 yrs old os that my current phone is running. If ics doesn't come out by april. I'm buying a new phone from the other manufacturers which does have ics.
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btw ICS isn't a super drastic update or something, you're acting like it's the difference between Window 3.11 and Windows 7.
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It is (probably more like xp to windows 7), just hw acceleration and support for the google chrome browser is reason enough for the upgrade.
ICS is the only reason I am upgrading from my n1
Well, thanks for all the comments up there ^^^.
I did the ICS upgrade that ZD did in arc board and have it on my arc and it was based on Vanilla ICS. I got the best battery and performance I have ever got on any android phone (owned 4 so far)
Second, optimization with Sony won't be there ever. While I agree there are lots of work with custom UI and setting and adding extra stuff that Sony does't with their on-top of OS thing, but if you pay attention, the OS on Xperia S 2.3.7 that should be optimized, its not even close to being optimized. Battery is like hell, I got rid of all the junk apps (bascially everything) and have nothing to run live, plus battery of this phone is bigger that arc (yes, screen is larger as well) but still not close even to arc.
I like to be optimist about this situation, but I was more hoping for a Beta version so maybe our beloved developers could make something out of it.
You guys don't worry, I won't be waiting for Sony to release its optimized ICS since I really don't care about the UI.
I hope I didn't go over board since we are all here to have fun.
ko0l said:
Htc have already released ics for their sensation phones, also alot of manufacturers would have phones released next month with ics onboard.
I'm not buying the Xperia S until the ics update comes out, it just doesn't feel right to spend $600+ aud on a high end phone that comes with a 1.5 yrs old os that my current phone is running. If ics doesn't come out by april. I'm buying a new phone from the other manufacturers which does have ics.
It is (probably more like xp to windows 7), just hw acceleration and support for the google chrome browser is reason enough for the upgrade.
ICS is the only reason I am upgrading from my n1
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You mean the Sensation ICS update officially released only in a couple of countries with bugs as idiot as links not opening in the browser?
If your priority is having ICS and Jelly Bean when released ASAP your only real option is a Nexus Galaxy. As of today Android is still a train wreck when it comes to OEM updates...
you people should look at SGSII forums.People are complaining about the rushed ICS official update.
I currently own a Sony Xperia Ray, I like it but after getting very disappointed with the ICS update this phone got, I have been thinking of replacing it, and now I have the chance to do it because my father needs a smartphone for work, and I can just give him my Ray and buy a new one for me.
Anyway, since it's quite an old phone, I was wondering if it's still worth it. I had the chance to try it a few days ago from a friend of mine, his SGSII had some AOKP rom installed and it seemed very fast and bug-free. I did not like the screen very much, since I'm used to the sharp screen Ray has, the screen seemed a bit more pixelated, and also I noticed a blueish tint on white backgrounds.
Anyway, here are my questions:
Which one is the latest official firmware available for it? I heard it's 4.0.4 but I'm not sure. After the giant disappointment I got with Sony, I'd be happier to know it has at least the latest version of ICS right now. I have a thing against homebrew roms and would avoid them if possible, no offence intended to all the talented developers of XDA. I like to keep the stock firmware and just add mods and tweaks to it.
Also, how do you like the stock interface available for it in the latest official firmware? Do you think it's very obsolete or flawed? How does it compare to the one on the SIII?
Do you think there is anything that pushes the SGSII to it's limits and makes you think it's not powerful enough? I often get this feeling on my Ray, especially in the browser and some games. I kind of like some Gameloft games for Android but they don't run as well as I'd like them to on my Ray.
Do you think the low resolution of the screen is a big limitation? Do movies look good on it? I am a bit underwhelmed by the screen on the SGSII, especially after trying the Xperia S, which has an utterly amazing screen.
I assume it's safe to say that Sammy won't update it to Jelly Bean, right?
That's all I guess. Feel free to recommend me another phone if you think the SII is not worth it in 2012. I can't spend much more than what the SII costs though (around 380€ new here).
MarkMRL said:
I currently own a Sony Xperia Ray, I like it but after getting very disappointed with the ICS update this phone got, I have been thinking of replacing it, and now I have the chance to do it because my father needs a smartphone for work, and I can just give him my Ray and buy a new one for me.
Anyway, since it's quite an old phone, I was wondering if it's still worth it. I had the chance to try it a few days ago from a friend of mine, his SGSII had some AOKP rom installed and it seemed very fast and bug-free. I did not like the screen very much, since I'm used to the sharp screen Ray has, the screen seemed a bit more pixelated, and also I noticed a blueish tint on white backgrounds.
Anyway, here are my questions:
Which one is the latest official firmware available for it? I heard it's 4.0.4 but I'm not sure. After the giant disappointment I got with Sony, I'd be happier to know it has at least the latest version of ICS right now. I have a thing against homebrew roms and would avoid them if possible, no offence intended to all the talented developers of XDA. I like to keep the stock firmware and just add mods and tweaks to it.
Also, how do you like the stock interface available for it in the latest official firmware? Do you think it's very obsolete or flawed? How does it compare to the one on the SIII?
Do you think there is anything that pushes the SGSII to it's limits and makes you think it's not powerful enough? I often get this feeling on my Ray, especially in the browser and some games. I kind of like some Gameloft games for Android but they don't run as well as I'd like them to on my Ray.
Do you think the low resolution of the screen is a big limitation? Do movies look good on it? I am a bit underwhelmed by the screen on the SGSII, especially after trying the Xperia S, which has an utterly amazing screen.
I assume it's safe to say that Sammy won't update it to Jelly Bean, right?
That's all I guess. Feel free to recommend me another phone if you think the SII is not worth it in 2012. I can't spend much more than what the SII costs though (around 380€ new here).
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the latest official firmware is XXLQ5 (android 4.0.4) available on samfirmware.com
and with ur budjet i think s2 is the best option for u
There appears to be a big lack of development for this phone. Just wondering if anyone expects things to pickup? I just come from a galaxy nexus and while I know that that it's one of the most favored phones from the developers side, I'm currently disappointed by the lack of options wet currently have. There is like only 3 ICS Roms and 3 ICS kernels (1 only has OC ability) to choose from.
Love this phone though.
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When developers are going to buy this phone development would be better.
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Development is still in progress! When freexperia team releases source, then we will get aokp ROM. Miui is aviable also cm 9 and cm 10 is aviable.
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It would be a dream if Huexx had a Sony Xperia S to develop a great rom like Zeus ROM for Optimus Black (i have one, trying to sell it). An incredible and organized work, with a great presence in the comunity, organized changelogs and constant updates! He also developed a nice kernel for CM9 (that original kernel from Cyanogen guys is bugged and crappy) that turned CM9 almost a usable ROM (not for me, since i really like listening music and podcasts with my phone). He did a really incredible work with Zeus! Should we ask him if he have interest in a Xperia S and donate one to him? XD haha! But really guys! Give a look at his work!
Yea...i two u man on dis...!!
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mainly because the people have got this phone on a contract there for the bootloader cant be unlocked as of this moment until setool or some other software manage to enable fastboot via testpoint. (exactly the reason i cant develop for this phone atm)
Soon many Arc/Arc S devs will come and support this phone.
Once we get CM9 and CM10 going you should see more development.
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Soon many Arc/Arc S devs will come and support this phone.
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Hehehe on the arc a lot of dev,s are gone to htc/s3.
A few teenagers are left there.
I'll try some serving during the summer, we'll see.. that's why I'm switching ROMs and making all these changes all the time, I'm learning about the phone's limits...
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this is what concers me too.. i started with galaxy s then galaxy s2.. but after that i switched to moto xoom, then galaxy tab 10.1 and then temprorarly galaxy ace.. i used samsung most of the time because of the unlocked bootloaders but i could never get used to the build quality and never got away from the screen burns of the amoled screen..
so my next preference was htc sensation XE.. this was the perfect phone for me definetely.. i had gread develeopment (since it was backed up by original sensation days), great sound quality and somehow quallcomm CPU and GPU was better than the arm based ones... i know the benchmarks say the opposite but i was using my sensation XE at 1.2 Ghz by setcpu and it was still fast enough and it never refused to play any game i thrown at.. but dust got under the screen after a few months and i sold it..
so my next was htc one x and it was a disaster with the greatest screen i have ever seen.. it was a joy to play with it but the problems were unsolveable for daily usage.. and no matter how much i love playing with my phone, messing things most of the time i need it as a ready and steady phone for daily usage.. with that heat, lack of S-off and other problems i sold it too..
so novadays i was looking at the galaxy note or s3 but then i decided to be realistic.. i love playing my games on the consoles and my computer.. so gamewise any phone would handle me because my expectations are low.. what i want is smooth web browsing, very good audio quality to listen lossless music and a good camera to shoot good photos and HD videos (not like a pro camera but at least sharp enough to make the moment freeze forever to remember later).. so i decided to go for nexus.. but then in a store i realised every galaxy phone had screen burns.. i know there are lots of ways to prevent it but still this time i made a promis and have to live with my next phone 1.5 year at least and i dont want to watch my leds die slowly and seperately in front of my eyes everyday..
so i decided to go back to sensation XE.. the most problem-free experience for me.. i care so much about graphic performance.. i think any CPU can handle anything novadays but GPU makes the difference.. so the adreno 220 in sensation XE was more than enough with the help of low-res screen and it was also OCable.. but then i saw a friends xperia s.. that changed everything.. until then i did not even look at any sony device.. not even accidentely..
now i really can not decide.. i have never been into any sony topics before so i am trying to learn but i guess on the development side xperia S is no match for sensation / XE..
so i am kind of scared about the high resolution of the screen.. XE is getting old and has only 768 mb of RAM but it has S-off and lots of developers will keep it as a legacy device.. besides i do not have to worry about warranty since there is S-off...
on the other hand soy seems to be promising with this brand new device and it seems like they use the hardware better than HTC.. it gives 37.5 FPS on the nenamark2 even with that 720p screen.. but is there any chance that i keep the warranty even after i unlock the bootloader... and what about the sound quality? i know sensation XE was not the best but at leats the sound is clear and there is beats audio.. and "most importantly" will there be any more development? i dont want to buy a device that will be forgotten after 3-4 months...
i know i wrote very long but i decided to ask.. because i have been reading for 3 weeks non-stop and i am more cunfused than i started.. its like android world's nature.. every device has their adventages and disadvanteges on each other.. like a perfect balance and it is really hard to choose sometimes..
^ you can re-locked the bootloader. and here in Indonesia, they (Sony's Service) dont even bother checking the bootloader f it's hardware problems (yellow tints). so i guess it's not an issue, but different country, different policy.
and for development.. SXS has, modded stock roms (2), cm9 and cm10 in development (bug fixing, etc), and official miui. what's more do you want? i prefer this than many development which only modified stock roms, modified miui, modified cm. it's just me though..
actually i prefer one good custom (or stock) rom than lots of roms.. but for example sensation and one x has a camera mod which let them shoot videos with 20Mbps (or 40) and take photos with 0 compression.. and i can tell; lowering the compression value looks like a must for xperia S too.
or you can OC the GPU to get more performance on 3d apps or games.. these are more important than having lots of custom roms in my opinion.. because since ICS came out every custom rom is similar to each other.
what i want to do is generally about unleashing the potential of the hardware.. like in the camera mod example.. i mean, the camera lens is still there but the software uses it much better with a little touch of a good developer..
_delice_doluca_ said:
this is what concers me too.. i started with galaxy s then galaxy s2.. but after that i switched to moto xoom, then galaxy tab 10.1 and then temprorarly galaxy ace.. i used samsung most of the time because of the unlocked bootloaders but i could never get used to the build quality and never got away from the screen burns of the amoled screen..
so my next preference was htc sensation XE.. this was the perfect phone for me definetely.. i had gread develeopment (since it was backed up by original sensation days), great sound quality and somehow quallcomm CPU and GPU was better than the arm based ones... i know the benchmarks say the opposite but i was using my sensation XE at 1.2 Ghz by setcpu and it was still fast enough and it never refused to play any game i thrown at.. but dust got under the screen after a few months and i sold it..
so my next was htc one x and it was a disaster with the greatest screen i have ever seen.. it was a joy to play with it but the problems were unsolveable for daily usage.. and no matter how much i love playing with my phone, messing things most of the time i need it as a ready and steady phone for daily usage.. with that heat, lack of S-off and other problems i sold it too..
so novadays i was looking at the galaxy note or s3 but then i decided to be realistic.. i love playing my games on the consoles and my computer.. so gamewise any phone would handle me because my expectations are low.. what i want is smooth web browsing, very good audio quality to listen lossless music and a good camera to shoot good photos and HD videos (not like a pro camera but at least sharp enough to make the moment freeze forever to remember later).. so i decided to go for nexus.. but then in a store i realised every galaxy phone had screen burns.. i know there are lots of ways to prevent it but still this time i made a promis and have to live with my next phone 1.5 year at least and i dont want to watch my leds die slowly and seperately in front of my eyes everyday..
so i decided to go back to sensation XE.. the most problem-free experience for me.. i care so much about graphic performance.. i think any CPU can handle anything novadays but GPU makes the difference.. so the adreno 220 in sensation XE was more than enough with the help of low-res screen and it was also OCable.. but then i saw a friends xperia s.. that changed everything.. until then i did not even look at any sony device.. not even accidentely..
now i really can not decide.. i have never been into any sony topics before so i am trying to learn but i guess on the development side xperia S is no match for sensation / XE..
so i am kind of scared about the high resolution of the screen.. XE is getting old and has only 768 mb of RAM but it has S-off and lots of developers will keep it as a legacy device.. besides i do not have to worry about warranty since there is S-off...
on the other hand soy seems to be promising with this brand new device and it seems like they use the hardware better than HTC.. it gives 37.5 FPS on the nenamark2 even with that 720p screen.. but is there any chance that i keep the warranty even after i unlock the bootloader... and what about the sound quality? i know sensation XE was not the best but at leats the sound is clear and there is beats audio.. and "most importantly" will there be any more development? i dont want to buy a device that will be forgotten after 3-4 months...
i know i wrote very long but i decided to ask.. because i have been reading for 3 weeks non-stop and i am more cunfused than i started.. its like android world's nature.. every device has their adventages and disadvanteges on each other.. like a perfect balance and it is really hard to choose sometimes..
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Go for xperia s ...its actually quiet good
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Hi all!
First of all I wish to thanks in advance for any of you who may stop by, and provide some tips, experience
regarding the next matter, advice request:
My context is that I am completely noob regarding choosing android phone.
I want to get my first one, but a low budget, and I thought about Sony Xperia Tipo, cause it uses Android ICS,
and its hardware specs are some better than comparing to others of similar budget as LG Optimus L3, Samsung Galaxy Mini
( phonearena.com/phones/compare/LG-Optimus-L3,Samsung-GALAXY-mini,Sony-Xperia-tipo/phones/6941,5147,7151 )
I already discarded going for Vodafone Smart II, cause after reading its thread in XDA (around 30 pages), despite it was posible
to be rooted at first, in 1 month the new versions have been capped by cel companies (the recovery, the fastboot etc), at least for Spain, Portugal versions, therefore the customization is getting quite impossible, or very random depending the version, the cel company, ...
I think the main problem it is that this Xperia Tipo has been released quite very recently,
and after been searching through forum about info for rooting the Xperia Tipo, I can't find any info about it :S.
So my 2 questions are:
- it is expected that Xperia Tipo will be rooted in a near future ( and therefore customizable with
ROMs ...) ?
- Taking in count any answer to this question, would you suggest to go for it,
or by other hand go for Samsung Galaxy Mini (despite it has worse HW, Android GingerBread,
BUT it has quite plenty support for rooting and flashing with custom ROMs) ?
Again thanks in advance for any advice, and excuse the long post! )
Cheers!
ive used this phone after recomending it for someone else. Its a great cheap ICS phone dont expect it to be really fast or to play excellant games but it is really good for the price under £100!!!. would i recomend it to someone else after using it YES!!!! just remember to clear the apps your not using from the RAM by pressing the Home key and holding it and swiping it to close it so it doesnt get laggy.
as for root im not a dev but im safley sure it will be rooted in the future as its got a SD card slot so its easier to install CWM recovery etc.
BUT it is new out and dont expect it to happen any time soon i have the Xperia U and thats been out ages now and i still dont have root it just takes time for the devs to get the phones and then to start work on them.
hope it helped
djpigz said:
ive used this phone after recomending it for someone else. Its a great cheap ICS phone dont expect it to be really fast or to play excellant games but it is really good for the price under £100!!!. would i recomend it to someone else after using it YES!!!! just remember to clear the apps your not using from the RAM by pressing the Home key and holding it and swiping it to close it so it doesnt get laggy.
as for root im not a dev but im safley sure it will be rooted in the future as its got a SD card slot so its easier to install CWM recovery etc.
BUT it is new out and dont expect it to happen any time soon i have the Xperia U and thats been out ages now and i still dont have root it just takes time for the devs to get the phones and then to start work on them.
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Thanks for the tip!
Being cheap phone is ok, in fact that is what I seek for, a low budget phone as a start point, looking for customization.
Well, I could get that Xperia Tipo for £48, while the Samsung Galaxy Mini would cost £32. HW (CPU, inbuilt mem, display res) difference and phone release date diff, explain the price difference, hehe.
I was tempted to get Vodafone Smart II (for £48, I think), but atfer reading this whole thread forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722811 , I found that it is a lottery, if I could get it rooted or not :S
My main doubt is if going for Samsung Galaxy Mini cause its great support in matters of rooting and customization, or expect that Xperia Tipo will get some nice support here in XDA, in the future ...
A third choice could be LG Optimus L3 which has worse display res, same price as Xperia Tipo, and it has some support here at forum for rooting and ROMs.
Regarding your Xperia U, I think there is quite nice support in this site, forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1728 , so you mention you still having probs to root it ?
I have just returned my Tipo today due to very poor reception. If you just want a phone to make calls and send texts then it should be more than adequate but if you are going to use it for browsing or games I would find something with a stronger processor as it can be very laggy after using it a while - even in menus. However the touchscreen is responsive and the display should be OK for making calls and texting but I found it very washed out when viewing pics etc. On my particular handset I could hear electrical interference through the headphones but this could be related to my reception fault I guess. If you can I advise you try it out before making a decision - if ur in the UK o2 shops usually have all there the phones on display switched on. If music is important to you the sound quality is very budget. Also the camera has no flash or autofocus. Tbh if it wasn't for the Sony xperia branding on the front I would have though this was a cheap chinese no-name handset as Sony really have cut costs on this one.
I can't comment on the Samsung but I have read bad things about the lg. Have you considered the Motosmart from Motorola. It has a similar spec to the tipo but at least the camera has a flash and its root able (running gingerbread)
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I bought this phone a week ago. It's very nice for the price!. It isn't laggy, It has plenty of ram. Obviously it isn't so fast as would be needed for a device to play games,and doesn't have a big screen (or an hires one) if you have to surf the web a lot, but handles with no problems at all divx streaming from my pc, using mx-player. It's clearly better than vodafone smart_II and my device hasn't reception problems at all. The battery (this is a good point in my opinion) it's 1500mah just better than the usual 1200mah used in low-end devices
The camera can make decent photos but hasn't flash or aufocus at all & no front camera just like all the cheap phones.
BTW i think it's one of the best ICS devices avaiable here in Italy for about 150€.
I tried samsung galaxy mini too and this experia is a lot better in my opninion.
I have been using the mobile for more than a month... It's perfect .. Go for it... It is the best in the range... I do use it a lot and it has held up against everything... Custom ROM will be available veeeeeeeeeeeery soon... It is already rooted...
Sent from my ST21i using xda app-developers app
[help] firmware flash
my boot loader is unlocked and my device is stuck at boot with single vibration .
i need to install firmware but its get aborted everytime with an error
ERROR - ERR_SEVERITY="MAJOR";ERR_CODE="0019";ERR_DYNAMIC=" SIN header verification failed";
please help
Well, this day should come soon or later.
I had a chance for trading my Xperia Ray for a phone with similar specifications, and I did.
I own now a LG Optimus Black (white version). If you guys check the specs of both phones you'll note that they're very similar, with only few differences. I miss the great quality of the camera, Optimus camera is crappy. But what I like most of this phone is the bigger screen and the unlocked bootloader, thanks to it I could install and taste (at last) Jelly Bean. Everything is working in a CM10 based ROM, the performance is very good, but the battery drain is a little bit faster than ICS, I guess this is caused by project butter.
That's why I don't understand why SONY won't give JB to our 2011 Xperias. I just can't believe that custom ROMs built by the community and devs are so good enough to use them daily, but SONY engineers can't (or don't want) to give Android 4.1 to Arc, Neo, Ray, etc. That has disappointed me a lot and it was one of the reasons to take the decision of trading my phone.
However, I still want to give a chance to SONY because, after all, I'm a fan and I love their devices (if you ask me, what I really like of this LG I own now is the unlocked bootloader and the screen, the physical design is ugly, so "iphoned"), so I'm waiting for CES this january 7th and see what they have to offer. I hope they don't disappoint us, and now SONY have to work harder since a new strong competitor is on his way: Ubuntu Phone. It really looks interesting, plus, I'm a Linux fan since 2004 and I've seen how this great system has evolved, until the point of being almost ready for smartphones. But I also love Android, so, we'll see.
Anyway guys, I can't say definitely "bye", I'm sure we'll meet again in some point, of course, If I decide to get another Xperia and if you also do and keep developing for these devices. For now I want to thank great developers such JJ doctor, MrTapa, arcatarc, xparanoidx, and everyone else (sorry if I don't mention all of you) for rescuing me of being stuck in Android 2.3.4 =P I learned a lot while I had my Ray and I was happy using 4.0.4 ROMs, your work is awesome and this community is just great.
So, see you later!
PS: pending projects (such banners and wallpapers) will be accomplished in sometime of the current year. Sorry about that, my free time is smaller now.
PS2: I post this here because most of the time I was in this section. But if moderators consider it's necesary to move it, OK.
El Brillantinas said:
Well, this day should come soon or later.
I had a chance for trading my Xperia Ray for a phone with similar specifications, and I did.
I own now a LG Optimus Black (white version). If you guys check the specs of both phones you'll note that they're very similar, with only few differences. I miss the great quality of the camera, Optimus camera is crappy. But what I like most of this phone is the bigger screen and the unlocked bootloader, thanks to it I could install and taste (at last) Jelly Bean. Everything is working in a CM10 based ROM, the performance is very good, but the battery drain is a little bit faster than ICS, I guess this is caused by project butter.
That's why I don't understand why SONY won't give JB to our 2011 Xperias. I just can't believe that custom ROMs built by the community and devs are so good enough to use them daily, but SONY engineers can't (or don't want) to give Android 4.1 to Arc, Neo, Ray, etc. That has disappointed me a lot and it was one of the reasons to take the decision of trading my phone.
However, I still want to give a chance to SONY because, after all, I'm a fan and I love their devices (if you ask me, what I really like of this LG I own now is the unlocked bootloader and the screen, the physical design is ugly, so "iphoned"), so I'm waiting for CES this january 7th and see what they have to offer. I hope they don't disappoint us, and now SONY have to work harder since a new strong competitor is on his way: Ubuntu Phone. It really looks interesting, plus, I'm a Linux fan since 2004 and I've seen how this great system has evolved, until the point of being almost ready for smartphones. But I also love Android, so, we'll see.
Anyway guys, I can't say definitely "bye", I'm sure we'll meet again in some point, of course, If I decide to get another Xperia and if you also do and keep developing for these devices. For now I want to thank great developers such JJ doctor, MrTapa, arcatarc, xparanoidx, and everyone else (sorry if I don't mention all of you) for rescuing me of being stuck in Android 2.3.4 =P I learned a lot while I had my Ray and I was happy using 4.0.4 ROMs, your work is awesome and this community is just great.
So, see you later!
PS: pending projects (such banners and wallpapers) will be accomplished in sometime of the current year. Sorry about that, my free time is smaller now.
PS2: I post this here because most of the time I was in this section. But if moderators consider it's necesary to move it, OK.
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...i'm sure you'll back bro'!
Inviato da me!
Moved to General section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066898
bye.