Hi, I'm sort of a noob, 48 years old but interested in new technology, started with an og moto droid 3 years ago let my son root it in late 2011,I got my razr in Feb, rooted it myself, then ran into trouble with the its update before the ics update, after much heartache and searching I found the droid razr utility by Mattlgroff,saved my a**! Then ics came without a hitch and although I swore I'd never do anything "crazy"I upgraded to the. 215 leak! Still I told myself custom roms were out of question but thanks to all of you here and at droid razr. com I had the confidence to flash the razr hd non soft rom believe me there were bumps along the way but with all the info I managed to do it now I'm a flasher! Thanks to Mattlgroff,keebob, spc hicks, and the countless others who answered my posts without making me feel like a fool, that's what makes these forums great, thanks, djerk, old man and now rom flasher
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I currently have the incredible 2 and am thinking of coming to the dx2. With a little research doesn't look like there's much dev support for here or is that because its so new? Just trying to see if its a good idea and looking for a couple opinions. Thanks!
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We're at the beginning of the cycle with this phone so I think that is the reason you don't see much activity yet. An SBF was just procured and some developments are starting to trickle out. I just moved from the original DROID and so far I'm very pleased with this phone. I've rooted with gingerbreak and am running the supercharger script.
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Lack of dev support was due to a locked bootloader...we still have a locked bootloader but we do have a way into a custom recovery. It is just a matter of revs hopping on and making roms.
99% of the devs looking into this are prob passing it up until we get gingerbread so they don't have to make their roms twice.
Thanks, just read another thread and realized the questions were asked. Had same issue with dinc2 bootloader being locked but finally was cracked and am rooted now. Phone is great I like it but because of signal issues in my area Verizon is sending me a Droid x2 to try out. Dev support for dinc2 isn't that great either but got the main roms like CM7 and miui with couple others brewing. Just trying to decide if this would be a good switch. Thanks
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I bought an X2 a few weeks ago because it was available to me for $50 (yeah, I'm. Cheap). I really love it (except for the physical buttons (wtf?)) and I really wanted something larger than my Incredible. However after reading threads for a few weeks it just really seems the development for the X2 is being past over for older equipment (i.e. my Viewsonic G Tab?) & newer phones. Did I pick the wrong phone??
I'm not crazy techie, so I don't know the complexity, but the Droid, the Droid X & the Droid 2 have been cracked. Did Motorola really go to so much trouble making the X2 so different that it is much more difficult to crack or are the efforts to crack this phone being passed over for some reason? Do I just need to avoid Motorola phones in the future?
Like I said I'm not a very technical, but have contributed (donation-wise) to multiple ROMs I used on my Incredible & gTab & I just thought I would see similar flexibility on the X2 by now, so I just want to know if I need move on from the X2 or not?
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Yeah, I don't really run that much and I regularly see only about 3-9MB avail. ;(
I'm starting to think this is a middle of the road phone that I should have just past by & it seems the developers think so as well. Guess I should have researched more, not been so cheap & been less impatient.
Well I'm cheap, so I'll need to wait for better pricing on the latest phones, but if Motorola is going to be such a problem, then I guess I need to go with Samsung or HTC.
mistawolfe said:
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Agreed, they do however, run very well on any of the current available roms imo. The devs have done an excellent job of working with what we have.
Flashaholik
The above is true. Nitro is the best thing that happened to this phone. Try eclipse out and see how you like it then.
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If you don't have 4g in your area, x2 is your best bet. Im running eclipse and am more than happy to keep x2 until mid 2013 when 4g arrives in my area. If you have 4g, get something else.
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The only thing that sux about this phone is not having an unlocked bootloader but with the roms we have available it runs super smooth and it's reliable and yes nitro is the best thing to happen to this phone...don't get discouraged paying 50 bucks for this dualcore phone is a steal bro...
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Please enlighten us noobs on this subject professor wolf lol
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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the lack of non-stock ROMs is partially because of the bootloader. The other reason is because of lack of interest.
Droid X, 2, 2 Global all still have locked bootloaders (I believe), yet a lot of custom ROMs including CyanogenMod and MIUI. Not sure if all the dual-core Motorolas are unlocked, but I know some are.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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No actual ROMs huh? So a ROM isn't a ROM because it doesn't have a custom kernel? What do you call Eclipse? What do you call Liberty?
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
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You talking about me? Or the newbs?
I was able to trade my dx2 for an incredible 2 and the difference is astounding. The dx2 has good hardware and amazing build quality but a lot of the major selling points of the phone don't mean anything. Qhd is a gimmick, as is dual-core IMO. Nothing is built to take advantage of it, including Android.
The best thing about the dx2 was the build quality and feel which is second to none. Everything about the hardware is more refined than my INC2. Eclipse is a great ROM too and makes this device worthwhile.
All in all, I think this phone has a chance at being everything that the x was but it is going to require more people to stand up.
Bottom line: if you want a phone for a specific ROM/kernel, do your research before you spend your cash. Your response to your device will be based on your expectations.
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The other issue, with the rate the new "bigger badder" phones are popping up, Dev's can't keep up, nor afford to buy every phone on the block. This Android runs 2.2.2, the next runs 2.3.5, the next runs 4.0.1, you get the point. These 1 man teams like Nitro are insane working on 3/4 phones at a time, and building their rom at a pace that keeps up with Android builds and hardware differences. Not to mention the continued support despite the pace of new phones being released. If you want everything under the sun, buy a phone everyone is interested in. Look how ridiculous the Galaxy Nexus forum is already and the phone was just ANNOUNCED weeks ago, not even released yet. We have what we have over here, and complaining about it doesn't help anything. Short of unlocking the BL ourselves and enticing devs by buying them the phone, we probably are not going to get more than the handful of ROMs and support we currently have.
The newly released Eclipse 1.2 and Liberty 3 RC1 are fantastic. This is how the X2 shouldve have been out of the box. Liberty final is coming soon and that'll be it till we get ICS. My phone is now almost as smooth as an iphone.
Also, use the following apps:
Go Launcher
Opera
Quickpic
ES File Explorer
ROM Toolbox
Handcent
I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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That's because it IS great and every update gets even better.
don't forget to customize your phone to make it run how you want. Don't feel limited in what this phone can do/handle.
A custom launcher can make a lot of difference in how you phone feels.
I LOVE go launcher ex. Lots of themes and home screen options. Different screen transition animation(even in app drawer..sphere animation is sick)
Right now im still using the launcher that came wit 1.2eclipse..it works smooth and looks good.
Just throwing in my 2cents but the previously mentions about just buying on cool specs is always going to backfire. And the other point about the devs not being able to keep up with the phones is the second major issue.
I got "upgraded" to the DX2 from my DX by insurance and I have run almost every rom I could. After the time I spent with my DX it was as fast as this phone is and there was way more choice of hacks and roms. I have to give serious props to Nitro, the Liberty crew and Navendrob (hope I spelled the name right) because they have done some great work. But unfortunately by the time all their hard work is finally paying off the majority of us will be on the next phone.
To bad more people can't afford to donate to devs so they can have new toys to hack on....
Anyone else think this is good news?
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Who is nitro
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Nitroglycerin33 is who he is talking about. He is good developer. He has created roms for couple Moto devices. He is the creator of Eclipse rom. He help are community by making the Unofficial Razr Bootstrap. He made the only deodex rom for the CDMA droid Razr. He help many people get the OTA update to pass install. I say he is pretty important for use "VZW Droid Razr" i give him props nd hope to see more awesome work from him
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this is good news!
This is great news no doubt!
He is definitely a beast on the dev stuff however this isnt a new thing he got the razr more than a week or more ago
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He is definitely a beast on the dev stuff however this isnt a new thing he got the razr more than a week or more ago
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Yeah, but I just heard about it on droudrzr.com & hadn't seen it mentioned here. Could be cuz he may be leaving xda...
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Nitro saved my butt from the agony of not being able to accept the OTA due to some fouled modding. I saw this a while ago but man am I glad you guys got him one. I hope Nitro knows how much his work is appreciated.
I have ran his roms on many phones with no complaints. The guy is a straight up beast. Eclipse is the only rom you would ever need. And now if the fastboot files turn out to be legit...Stand back cause **** is about to get nasty.
He did some pretty cool stuff with the fascinate as well. His themes were really tight
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From what I gather, droidrzr.com was having a giveaway & he won.
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Very nice! lol See? people were panicking for no reason!
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...-earliest-if-at-all.ars?clicked=related_right
yep, no love...
galaxy nexus, here I come.
Did I miss something? I didn't see a reference to the x2 at all..
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The official Motorola list has the DX2 as under evaluation for ICS which may be the same as never. My hope is that ICS is more profitable to Google for some reason so they would push Moto to update more phones. Even if it only makes it to a QA server and gets leaked out I would be happy.
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...-earliest-if-at-all.ars?clicked=related_right
yep, no love...
galaxy nexus, here I come.
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X2 is not listed as NOT getting ICS. The article states:
The Droid 2, Defy, and Droid X don't appear to have made it to evaluation and planning considerations, but instead are listed alongside the most recent upgrade currently available (2.2 or 2.3).
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If you look at the actual Motorola page, the X2 is listed as in the evaluation and planning stage whereas before it was shown as having received the 2.3.4 upgrade. This doesn't guarantee an ICS upgrade, but it also doesn't rule it out of consideration like the Droid 2, Defy and Droid X appear to have been.
Just wanted to clear that up. I'm still waiting to hear back from Motorola and/or see what actions they take, but HTC is definitely the way I'm going. They just announced MORE phones that they are adding to their bootloader unlocking program.
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Some of the company's phones from summer 2010 seem like they will not make the cut.
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The Droid X2 came out in May of 2011
Nuf' Said
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eddieb1983 said:
The Droid X2 came out in May of 2011
Nuf' Said
Lol
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+1 on that.
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The official Motorola list has the DX2 as under evaluation for ICS which may be the same as never.
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I've been a user of many motorola products for YEARS.
this statement means "we have abandoned this device, but the first ones are still under warranty so we have to say this"
their software engineers need to all die in a fire, they've let me down in this regard numerous times over the years
however, I have NEVER had ANYTHING motorola fail on me hardware wise, well aside from the touchscreen on my MW-520 mobile computer, but it got hit by some untethered cargo during a 45mph side-impact collision, and it still fn worked, it was just cracked.
that's the ONLY reason I won't go HTC, never had ANYTHING HTC last longer than 90 days without having some kind of hardware problem, and I've had half a dozen different ones (probably 2 dozen if you count all the warranty replacements)
Today I had my very first service/call quality issue ever, I ended up reporting an outage/interference in downtown Denver cause it was only in a 2 block area. Strange thing was my co-worker who is a sprint customer had the exact same issues on a completely different phone, and they both worked fine there yesterday.
My wife got the Droid Razr on launch day in November and she has gotten 3 updates since then. I have had my X2 since July and have only gotten 2 updates. This is ridiculous. Even Apple put out updates for my 2nd Gen Ipod touch for 2 years after I bought it. This will not make me leave Android though. But I will leave Motorola. HTC is doing a great job unlocking there phones for power users if they are unsatisfied with the way their phones currently run. And that's where I'm headed. The HTC Rezound has several ICS roms already and that impresses me because that's the phone that I'm probably going to get. Sorry for the rant. I just needed to say something about this.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember reading somewhere that when a company(Moto, Htc, ect..) use "Google's" Android os they are required to keep it updated to the latest version for 18 months after its original release . If this is the case then you people are making a big deal out of nothing . The X2 will get ICS . Maybe we wont be first but we'll get it .
"Patience young grasshopper"
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember reading somewhere that when a company(Moto, Htc, ect..) use "Google's" Android os they are required to keep it updated to the latest version for 18 months after its original release . If this is the case then you people are making a big deal out of nothing . The X2 will get ICS . Maybe we wont be first but we'll get it .
"Patience young grasshopper"
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OG Droid never got gingerbread.
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tombaldwin6 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember reading somewhere that when a company(Moto, Htc, ect..) use "Google's" Android os they are required to keep it updated to the latest version for 18 months after its original release . If this is the case then you people are making a big deal out of nothing . The X2 will get ICS . Maybe we wont be first but we'll get it .
"Patience young grasshopper"
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For me it's not about getting ICS, it's about updates that fix the problems with this phone. Sure, I want ICS but I would be satisfied with regular GB updates. I understand that it will take awhile for us to get ICS since they have so many phones out there. Not knowing whether or not they have ended support for the X2 is what's frustrating.
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Im just happy that we have devs like dragon willing to bring us things like CM7, and a 2nd init. This, plus speedyscript and mashupV1 have made my dx2 a beast. dropping a 2933 in quadrant, and doing everything you ask of it and more as fast as any of the phones out there currently, makes me happy. Im sure with him and the others chugging away, we will have ICS whether moto wanted us to have it or not.
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OG Droid never got gingerbread.
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Ahh wouldn't that be because the 18 months had passed(nov09-jun11). That and maybe because it (og droid )couldn't run it with all the bloatware . I think hardware exceptions can and will be made . If you want ICS so bad then go buy a nexus or wait paiteintly for it to come out .We will have it one way or another. Moaning and growning about it here is absolutley useless!
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Ahh wouldn't that be because the 18 months had passed(nov09-jun11). That and maybe because it (og droid )couldn't run it with all the bloatware . I think hardware exceptions can and will be made . If you want ICS so bad then go buy a nexus or wait paiteintly for it to come out .We will have it one way or another. Moaning and growning about it here is absolutley useless!
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As I recall, gingerbread came out late 2010. And what bloatware?
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I know this isn't much of a problem but my friend needed some money so I bought this Irulu tablet from him for 30 bucks. Seemed like a good deal. So I figured I'd come ask my excellent Droid RAZR community if anyone has any sort of guidance. I do know it came rooted out of the box LOL. Just wondering if it would be difficult to build some sort of ROM or something even stock to work on it since its running 4.0.3
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I know this isn't much of a problem but my friend needed some money so I bought this Irulu tablet from him for 30 bucks. Seemed like a good deal. So I figured I'd come ask my excellent Droid RAZR community if anyone has any sort of guidance. I do know it came rooted out of the box LOL. Just wondering if it would be difficult to build some sort of ROM or something even stock to work on it since its running 4.0.3
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It would be difficult to search for specific rom for it!