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I bought an X2 a few weeks ago because it was available to me for $50 (yeah, I'm. Cheap). I really love it (except for the physical buttons (wtf?)) and I really wanted something larger than my Incredible. However after reading threads for a few weeks it just really seems the development for the X2 is being past over for older equipment (i.e. my Viewsonic G Tab?) & newer phones. Did I pick the wrong phone??
I'm not crazy techie, so I don't know the complexity, but the Droid, the Droid X & the Droid 2 have been cracked. Did Motorola really go to so much trouble making the X2 so different that it is much more difficult to crack or are the efforts to crack this phone being passed over for some reason? Do I just need to avoid Motorola phones in the future?
Like I said I'm not a very technical, but have contributed (donation-wise) to multiple ROMs I used on my Incredible & gTab & I just thought I would see similar flexibility on the X2 by now, so I just want to know if I need move on from the X2 or not?
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Yeah, I don't really run that much and I regularly see only about 3-9MB avail. ;(
I'm starting to think this is a middle of the road phone that I should have just past by & it seems the developers think so as well. Guess I should have researched more, not been so cheap & been less impatient.
Well I'm cheap, so I'll need to wait for better pricing on the latest phones, but if Motorola is going to be such a problem, then I guess I need to go with Samsung or HTC.
mistawolfe said:
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Agreed, they do however, run very well on any of the current available roms imo. The devs have done an excellent job of working with what we have.
Flashaholik
The above is true. Nitro is the best thing that happened to this phone. Try eclipse out and see how you like it then.
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If you don't have 4g in your area, x2 is your best bet. Im running eclipse and am more than happy to keep x2 until mid 2013 when 4g arrives in my area. If you have 4g, get something else.
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The only thing that sux about this phone is not having an unlocked bootloader but with the roms we have available it runs super smooth and it's reliable and yes nitro is the best thing to happen to this phone...don't get discouraged paying 50 bucks for this dualcore phone is a steal bro...
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
ralphwiggum1 said:
This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Please enlighten us noobs on this subject professor wolf lol
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xaalfx said:
There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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the lack of non-stock ROMs is partially because of the bootloader. The other reason is because of lack of interest.
Droid X, 2, 2 Global all still have locked bootloaders (I believe), yet a lot of custom ROMs including CyanogenMod and MIUI. Not sure if all the dual-core Motorolas are unlocked, but I know some are.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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No actual ROMs huh? So a ROM isn't a ROM because it doesn't have a custom kernel? What do you call Eclipse? What do you call Liberty?
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
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You talking about me? Or the newbs?
I was able to trade my dx2 for an incredible 2 and the difference is astounding. The dx2 has good hardware and amazing build quality but a lot of the major selling points of the phone don't mean anything. Qhd is a gimmick, as is dual-core IMO. Nothing is built to take advantage of it, including Android.
The best thing about the dx2 was the build quality and feel which is second to none. Everything about the hardware is more refined than my INC2. Eclipse is a great ROM too and makes this device worthwhile.
All in all, I think this phone has a chance at being everything that the x was but it is going to require more people to stand up.
Bottom line: if you want a phone for a specific ROM/kernel, do your research before you spend your cash. Your response to your device will be based on your expectations.
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The other issue, with the rate the new "bigger badder" phones are popping up, Dev's can't keep up, nor afford to buy every phone on the block. This Android runs 2.2.2, the next runs 2.3.5, the next runs 4.0.1, you get the point. These 1 man teams like Nitro are insane working on 3/4 phones at a time, and building their rom at a pace that keeps up with Android builds and hardware differences. Not to mention the continued support despite the pace of new phones being released. If you want everything under the sun, buy a phone everyone is interested in. Look how ridiculous the Galaxy Nexus forum is already and the phone was just ANNOUNCED weeks ago, not even released yet. We have what we have over here, and complaining about it doesn't help anything. Short of unlocking the BL ourselves and enticing devs by buying them the phone, we probably are not going to get more than the handful of ROMs and support we currently have.
The newly released Eclipse 1.2 and Liberty 3 RC1 are fantastic. This is how the X2 shouldve have been out of the box. Liberty final is coming soon and that'll be it till we get ICS. My phone is now almost as smooth as an iphone.
Also, use the following apps:
Go Launcher
Opera
Quickpic
ES File Explorer
ROM Toolbox
Handcent
I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
aldar5 said:
I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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That's because it IS great and every update gets even better.
don't forget to customize your phone to make it run how you want. Don't feel limited in what this phone can do/handle.
A custom launcher can make a lot of difference in how you phone feels.
I LOVE go launcher ex. Lots of themes and home screen options. Different screen transition animation(even in app drawer..sphere animation is sick)
Right now im still using the launcher that came wit 1.2eclipse..it works smooth and looks good.
Just throwing in my 2cents but the previously mentions about just buying on cool specs is always going to backfire. And the other point about the devs not being able to keep up with the phones is the second major issue.
I got "upgraded" to the DX2 from my DX by insurance and I have run almost every rom I could. After the time I spent with my DX it was as fast as this phone is and there was way more choice of hacks and roms. I have to give serious props to Nitro, the Liberty crew and Navendrob (hope I spelled the name right) because they have done some great work. But unfortunately by the time all their hard work is finally paying off the majority of us will be on the next phone.
To bad more people can't afford to donate to devs so they can have new toys to hack on....
Hey everyone! I just got my Razr today and wanted to get it rooted. I'm not a noob by any means with Android but I am noob to Moto. I'm coming from the LG Revolution and a Droid Charge before that. I've made a few themes for the Revolution that I look forward to bringing here for everyone.
So anyway, just wanted to introduce myself and I look forward to seeing all you guys around here!
spc_hicks09 said:
Hey everyone! I just got my Razr today and wanted to get it rooted. I'm not a noob by any means with Android but I am noob to Moto. I'm coming from the LG Revolution and a Droid Charge before that. I've made a few themes for the Revolution that I look forward to bringing here for everyone.
So anyway, just wanted to introduce myself and I look forward to seeing all you guys around here!
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Welcome. You'll find the RAZR is a solid phone. One thing, I hope you bought the RAZR MAXX. You will need the bigger battery it comes with. I love my RAZR MAXX. It's a terrific phone.
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Welcome. You'll find the RAZR is a solid phone. One thing, I hope you bought the RAZR MAXX. You will need the bigger battery it comes with. I love my RAZR MAXX. It's a terrific phone.
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No I just got the regular RAZR but I've seen the post for using the MAXX battery with it. Just need to find a broken one now lol. Got it rooted already and getting ready to install ICS. I've actually owned quite a few 4G phones so I wasn't expecting this battery to be any better.
Congrats on the RAZR buddy! You're gonna have loads of fun with the RAZR. Its the best out there!
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Congrats on the RAZR buddy! You're gonna have loads of fun with the RAZR. Its the best out there!
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Thanks! Can't wait to put a theme out for it, should only be about a week.
Yeah the locked bootloader, and all these devs jumping ship has caused me to make the sad sad decision as well.
I remember using the OG I9000 Galaxy S and the simple joy of browsing up and down the XDA forums looking for a new fresh ROM to flash. Unfortunately I don't get the same joys with my RAZR and I think it's a bummer, considering it's an attractive and svelte device with good internals. (Also, it's Android. Why would you lock your bootloader if you don't agree with a "open" ecosystem. Damn you Motorola.)
I'm rocking the XT910 model GSM unlocked and I just have a few things to take care of beforehand.
The little crevasse between the edge of the phone and the screen is home to (in my case) some lint which is although minor, is really unattractive and downright annoying. It's the little part of the glass where it slopes down into a ridge. Has anybody cleaned this before? Would anybody suggest I use a toothbrush to brush out the little dust and lint?
Also, I'm no fan of the SIII (cheap plastic phones belong in Toys R Us, not Best Buy, also S Voice is a sham), and I'm not sure how happy I'd be using a dual core One X with the knowledge that there is a quad core version in Asia. If I do hold on to my phone until say, December, do you think I'd still be able to fetch ... say ... $300 used in excellent condition?
Thanks
I love my RAZR Maxx. I've had the OG Droid, OG Atrix, Bionic and Droid Charge - the RAZR Maxx is by far my favorite. Really, I bought it for the 3300mah battery and the notification LED, but I'm really starting to love my RAZR Maxx.
The Atrix and Bionic displays were kind of crappy, so I was a bit hesitant to get the RAZR Maxx, but I'm glad that I did. I guess they changed their displays to SAMOLED+?
The one thing I miss is the sweet Wolfson DAC in the Droid Charge.
Why do people feel the need to announce they are dropping the RAZR?
News flash: no one cares.
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I too love my razr maxx, therefore the cleaning question posted above becomes even more relevant how do we clean that ridge?
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mrjinglesusa said:
Why do people feel the need to announce they are dropping the RAZR?
News flash: no one cares.
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I had two questions in my first post, you know.
mrjinglesusa said:
Why do people feel the need to announce they are dropping the RAZR?
News flash: no one cares.
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people leaving Razr means less people who're on the same bot with me.
I do like to mess with this phone (locked bootloader is nothing) & give away stuff.
less audience means less motivation to me..
so is the less the merrier??
whirleyes said:
people leaving Razr means less people who're on the same bot with me.
I do like to mess with this phone (locked bootloader is nothing) & give away stuff.
less audience means less motivation to me..
so is the less the merrier??
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The locked bootloader sucks :/ I use Epsilon V4 as a ROM, and I just found out that the developer just sold his RAZR for an iPhone >_>
I figure if the developers are packing up, I've got little incentive to stay and wait for custom ROMS :/
Zadabest said:
The locked bootloader sucks :/ I use Epsilon V4 as a ROM, and I just found out that the developer just sold his RAZR for an iPhone >_>
I figure if the developers are packing up, I've got little incentive to stay and wait for custom ROMS :/
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must be something wrong with his exam (play with razr to much???)
whirleyes said:
people leaving Razr means less people who're on the same bot with me.
I do like to mess with this phone (locked bootloader is nothing) & give away stuff.
less audience means less motivation to me..
so is the less the merrier??
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The Maxx has just been released in EU and there coming new Users every day. Just because they don't post on XDA doesn't mean, that they don't use your Stuff
I have a lot to do in my Home Forum to explain People, how they should use your BootMenu or Modules. You got an good Name in the game :thumbup:
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yeah, whirleyes your bootmenu is awesome.:good:
HSD-Pilot said:
The Maxx has just been released in EU and there coming new Users every day. Just because they don't post on XDA doesn't mean, that they don't use your Stuff
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But there's no more dev/ROM project to support BootMenu (AFAIK). That's my biggest concern...
& it's hard to do automation of safestrap ROM back-porting (still possible)
whirleyes said:
But there's no more dev/ROM project to support BootMenu (AFAIK). That's my biggest concern...
& it's hard to do automation of safestrap ROM back-porting (still possible)
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I don't understand why they wont support it
being a game changer is hard enough
Alright guys just bought a white razr today for $150 with box, charger etc and 3 cases including an otterbox!!! looks brand new!! getting ready to root it but what roms do you guys recommend and run? also is overclocking available?
I'm using simplex rom and I really like it. It has some over clocking abilities but since the RAZR bootloader is locked we are limited to complete overcloacking.
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hackersnu said:
I'm using simplex rom and I really like it. It has some over clocking abilities but since the RAZR bootloader is locked we are limited to complete overcloacking.
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ok cool i will check it out! and i know the bootloader is unlocked like every other moto phone haha. thanks for the reply i will check out for sure. cleaning out old sdcard to try this sucker out!
Good buy! I will second simplex rom, but another great option is eclipse. I ran that for a while and recently switched to simplex. Both are great. If you dont mind some minor bugs then take a look at full throttle AOKP build. There are a lot of choices and you won't be disappointed!
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thanks! not sure im keeping it lol rezound is so hard to beat. or i might try to get another galaxy s3!
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Hi, I'm sort of a noob, 48 years old but interested in new technology, started with an og moto droid 3 years ago let my son root it in late 2011,I got my razr in Feb, rooted it myself, then ran into trouble with the its update before the ics update, after much heartache and searching I found the droid razr utility by Mattlgroff,saved my a**! Then ics came without a hitch and although I swore I'd never do anything "crazy"I upgraded to the. 215 leak! Still I told myself custom roms were out of question but thanks to all of you here and at droid razr. com I had the confidence to flash the razr hd non soft rom believe me there were bumps along the way but with all the info I managed to do it now I'm a flasher! Thanks to Mattlgroff,keebob, spc hicks, and the countless others who answered my posts without making me feel like a fool, that's what makes these forums great, thanks, djerk, old man and now rom flasher
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