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This is my data usage for the month, still got 5 days left. No tethering. I just have no signal and I disconnected my Airrave because of the horrible text messaging issues. Any thoughts?
Over 100 GB roaming in 25 days?! To quote Nappa: "there's no way that can be right!" Bug? photoshop?
If that's true you definitely should have got contacted by your carrier already.
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If that's true you definitely should have got contacted by your carrier already.
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I have been contacted in the form of an email, sprint wants to know how my service is in my area and they will credit my account $15.
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lild811 said:
I have been contacted in the form of an email, sprint wants to know how my service is in my area and they will credit my account $15.
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Post links much?
They claim it is unlimited. someone needs to flat out press criminal charges against sprint if they cancel an account for going over 5gbs. lol. so the CEO should go to jail for being a **** and a loser. and so on... Giving them a fine or trying to get money out of them is a waste of time. because the ones that make the choices are not held for their criminal actions.
TL;DR? I can't post the link, so google "Terms & Conditions - Sprint" if you want the whole deal. Per the aforementioned:
Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes.
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Examples of prohibited data uses: Sprint data services are provided solely for purposes of web surfing, sending and receiving email, photographs and other similar messaging activities, and the non-continuous streaming of videos, downloading of files or on line gaming. Our data services may not be used: (i) to generate excessive amounts of Internet traffic through the continuous, unattended streaming, downloading or uploading of videos or other files or to operate hosting services including, but not limited to, web or gaming hosting; (ii) to maintain continuous active network connections to the Internet such as through a web camera or machine-to-machine connections that do not involve active participation by a person; (iii) to disrupt email use by others using automated or manual routines, including, but not limited to "auto-responders" or cancel bots or other similar routines; (iv) to transmit or facilitate any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, telemarketing, promotional materials, "junk mail", unsolicited commercial or bulk email, or fax; (v) for activities adversely affecting the ability of other people or systems to use either Sprint's wireless services or other parties' Internet-based resources, including, but not limited to, "denial of service" (DoS) attacks against another network host or individual user; (vi) for an activity that connects any device to Personal Computers (including without limitation, laptops), or other equipment for the purpose of transmitting wireless data over the network (unless customer is using a plan designated for such usage); or (vi) for any other reason that, in our sole discretion violates our policy of providing service for individual use. Unlimited Use Plans. If you subscribe to rate plans, services or features that are described as unlimited, you should be aware that such "unlimited" plans are subject to these Sprint Prohibited Network Uses.
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This is my data usage for the month, still got 5 days left. No tethering. I just have no signal and I disconnected my Airrave because of the horrible text messaging issues. Any thoughts?
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It's torrenter's like you that degrade the network and cause low speeds and higher costs for the rest of us you ****! Go get FIOS or cable and stop screwing up our network. Hopefully Sprint drops you now!
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It's torrenter's like you that degrade the network and cause low speeds and higher costs for the rest of us you ****! Go get FIOS or cable and stop screwing up our network. Hopefully Sprint drops you now!
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Really? I've been on Verizon speedy network and I haven't even used 250 mb on sprints network. So how am I to blame? If anything I help preserve sprints crappy service and speeds by not using their network.
I've been on Verizon speedy network and I haven't even used 250 mb on sprints network. So how am I to blame?
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Because Sprint has to pay Verizon for every MB you use, thus raising prices in the long run for the rest of us.
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This is my data usage for the month, still got 5 days left. No tethering. I just have no signal and I disconnected my Airrave because of the horrible text messaging issues. Any thoughts?
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Make you you double check you bill because even though the website says that you have unlimited they will still charge you something like $0.50 a megabyte over 300MB
And that's why sprint got pissed off at you. They lose money when you roam off another carrier's tower's. That's why you only get 300 mb data roaming when they claim you get unlimited. Easiest way to lose your service wiith them. It's not illegal to flash your phone over to another carrier. That's what I would do. It maybe possible to flash over to Verizon, but you can definitely flash over to boost, virgin mobile, metro pcs and page plus.
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http://www.sprintspecialoffers.com/everything/?id12=UhpChp_Billboard_SimplyEverythingPlan
dam wrong thread
well put up the right one then
only IDEN network only?
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http://www.sprintspecialoffers.com/everything/?id12=UhpChp_Billboard_SimplyEverythingPlan
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Can someone confirm this:
after a recent call to change my plan to the Simply Everything, i was told this is only for Nextel(IDEN) network. can someone confirm this. thanks
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Can someone confirm this:
after a recent call to change my plan to the Simply Everything, i was told this is only for Nextel(IDEN) network. can someone confirm this. thanks
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I don't think that's accurate. Here's the fine print from the offer. It doesn't mention IDEN at all, and seems to indicate that it works with Sprint's network just fine.
May require up to a $36 activation fee/line, credit approval, deposit and $200 early termination fee/line. Simply Everything Plan: Offer ends 5/31/08. Premium content/downloads (games, ringers, songs, etc.) are an additional charge. Texts to third parties to participate in promotions or other may result in additional charges. Sprint Music includes 150 radio channels. Sprint TV includes over 20 available channels. GPS Navigation includes Sprint Navigation or TeleNav GPS Navigator. GPS reliability varies by environment. International services are not included. E-mail includes use of ActiveSync, MICROSOFT Windows Mobile with Direct Push™, VersaMail, IBM Lotus Notes Traveler® or Blackberry Internet Services (BIS). Direct Connect and Group Connect (20 maximum participants) allows connection to other Nextel Direct Connect subscribers. Offer and service plan features not available in all markets/retail locations or for all phones/networks. Sprint may terminate service if a majority of minutes or a majority of kilobytes in a given month are used while roaming. Services are not available for use as a modem, in connection with server devices or host computer applications, other systems that drive continuous heavy traffic or data sessions, or as substitute for frame relay connections. Other Terms: The Nationwide Sprint Network reaches over 262 million people. The Nextel National Network reaches over 274 million people. The Sprint Mobile Broadband Network reaches over 230 million people. Coverage not available everywhere. Not combinable with other discounts. Other restrictions apply. See store or sprint.com for details. ©2008 Sprint. ©2008 NFL Properties LLC. NASCAR® and the NASCAR logo are registered trademarks of the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing, Inc.
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One caveat though:
Sprint may terminate service if a majority of minutes or a majority of kilobytes in a given month are used while roaming. Services are not available for use as a modem, in connection with server devices or host computer applications, other systems that drive continuous heavy traffic or data sessions, or as substitute for frame relay connections.
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Looks like they reserve the right to kick us off if we use too much data. That just turned me off from the whole idea.
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I don't think that's accurate. Here's the fine print from the offer. It doesn't mention IDEN at all, and seems to indicate that it works with Sprint's network just fine.
One caveat though:
Looks like they reserve the right to kick us off if we use too much data. That just turned me off from the whole idea.
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I think that they state that for ALL their plans that they have the right to kick you off if you use too much data. You might as well go for the $99 plan if you need or want unlimited voice calls to go with your "unlimited" data.
And speaking of "unlimited" data, I need to find a thread here about how NOT to get charged while tethering before I start tethering with the new ROMs.
if that makes you love sprint, get on the sero plan. www.sprint.com/sero
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if that makes you love sprint, get on the sero plan. www.sprint.com/sero
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thats for employees
Unless you know a way for us all to get on it
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=526998
enjoy...
As of last friday I have this plan with my Mogul. Had to call in and argue a bit, but it freakin' rocks. EVDO works, SMS, Email, voicemail... all as advertised.
E-mail Addy?
Does any one happen to have the e-mail address of someone I could use?
http://networxcontract.sprint.com/fedreps.html
I used one from there and it worked. LOL.
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Does any one happen to have the e-mail address of someone I could use?
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Look at the section labled 4: HOW DO I SIGN UP FOR SERO? on the 1st post of the SD SERO thread. Below is the link to the newest SERO SD thread that hasn't been retired yet.
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=716694
Anyone use tethering to download too much data and had repercussions from T-Mobile? I'm just wondering if/how much I should limit my bandwidth use. Use tethering frequently on the train and such.
After 5gb of data you will likely get throttled to EDGE-only speed. You will receive a message from TMO if this happens. If you are just checking email, chat, facebook, etc it is highly unlikely you will kill your 5gb.
I just recieved the text message yesterday and I have to say the speed that they throttle you down to renederd my laptop practically useless. Even just trying to log into Yahoo my browser timed out. Just FYI.
How much bandwidth did you use? I was up to 2.3 gigabyte last month.
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After 5gb of data you will likely get throttled to EDGE-only speed. You will receive a message from TMO if this happens. If you are just checking email, chat, facebook, etc it is highly unlikely you will kill your 5gb.
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its not even EDGE speeds. more like a little bit better than GPRS speeds around 50-59kbps. my edge speeds is almost triple this and my 3g speeds peak at 5.3mbps at night and 3-4mbps during day
to OP- Tmobile used to allows 10GB of bandwidth but now its cut to half to 5GB which can be easily used up by tethering,but then again tethering using USB in settings, MobileAP, or an app like EasyTether and PDAnet is not covered in the contract and actually goes against the terms of use
Of course, most probably already know tethering is expressly forbidden by the terms and conditions for most (if not all) contracts with TMO. While they've cast a blind eye to in the past, this is changing.
Beginning Nov 3, TMO will offer a $15 Tethering option which is less expensive than other carriers. Each activated IMEI (phone serial) will get no more than one IP address. All tethered data will count toward your 5GB monthly limit. Like other carriers, your monthly data cap doesn't increase just because you pay more. Unlike other carriers though, you will NOT be charged overage fees unless perhaps you somehow manage to tether without a proper plan in place.
The DHCP pool which currently assigns / allows acquiring of the additional addresses for any tethered devices that you may be using will be limited to just "one" address. In order to tether after this change, you'll require a minimum of 2 IP addresses. This limitation will only be officially lifted upon adding a monthly paid tethering plan to your account. Being rooted or on an unoffical rom likely won't change this as it'll all be controlled by the TMO's network hardware which is out of our reach.
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That assumes that TMO won't modify the normal operation it's APN gateway to prevent Private DHCP then tethering as we know it might not be possible. Then, you'd be forced to get your addresses from their DHCP server alone.
Yeap . this is a sad sad day for tmob...
I am going to look for a better carrier ./ option
I can get Virgin mobile wifi unlimited , and someone else cheaper for the phone
You think they will send a notice to all users with a 'Change of Terms' letter enclosed???
Also, does anyone know how to monitor my usage?? How do I know how much data I've transfered thus far in my billing cycle??
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You think they will send a notice to all users with a 'Change of Terms' letter enclosed???
Also, does anyone know how to monitor my usage?? How do I know how much data I've transfered thus far in my billing cycle??
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You can monitor usage with netcounter in market. Free and I have been using it since g1.
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Of course, most probably already know tethering is expressly forbidden by the terms and conditions for most (if not all) contracts with TMO. While they've cast a blind eye to in the past, this is changing.
Beginning Nov 3, TMO will offer a $15 Tethering option which is less expensive than other carriers. Each activated IMEI (phone serial) will get no more than one IP address. All tethered data will count toward your 5GB monthly limit. Like other carriers, your monthly data cap doesn't increase just because you pay more. Unlike other carriers though, you will NOT be charged overage fees unless perhaps you somehow manage to tether without a proper plan in place.
The DHCP pool which currently assigns / allows acquiring of the additional addresses for any tethered devices that you may be using will be limited to just "one" address. In order to tether after this change, you'll require a minimum of 2 IP addresses. This limitation will only be officially lifted upon adding a monthly paid tethering plan to your account. Being rooted or on an unoffical rom likely won't change this as it'll all be controlled by the TMO's network hardware which is out of our reach.
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As long as tethering still works like it did with usb tethering on cyanogen roms we do not get 2 ips from the carrier. Your phone gets 1 ip address from carrier and then acts as a router giving you private ip addresses that your carrier does not see. Same as you home ISP does not give out multiple ip addresses if you have multiple PCs at home conneted to a router.
Conclusion: Pay tmo $15/mo extra or root and do it for free (at your own risk). I have done it since the g1 days but very rarely, never had a prob.
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As long as tethering still works like it did with usb tethering on cyanogen roms we do not get 2 ips from the carrier. Your phone gets 1 ip address from carrier and then acts as a router giving you private ip addresses that your carrier does not see. Same as you home ISP does not give out multiple ip addresses if you have multiple PCs at home conneted to a router.
Conclusion: Pay tmo $15/mo extra or root and do it for free (at your own risk). I have done it since the g1 days but very rarely, never had a prob.
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^ This. I don't see how t mobile could track that you are tethering. Your phone requests the data, than transfers the data to the device you are tethering just like a router. The "outside world" only ever sees your router, or phone in this case. Unless I am misunderstanding the way tethering works.
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AFAIK, an APN is required for tethering to work. The carrier controls this. Without APN access and one that plays nice with tethering apps, tethering may become impossible with existing tethering / wifi router apps?
Tethering Via Kies or Tethering Via Dial-Up Connection
Currently you can easily tether via Samsung Kies or by creating a dial-up connection. How will these two options change?
How would T-Mo know you are tethering via keys or dial-up connection?
I do have Kies and I've set up dial-up tethering, it works, however I have internet everywhere I go, so I never have really tethered other than just testing to see if it works. I think it is a shame though, people who abused tethering kinda ruined it for everyone. Now if you need to tether in an emergency, which in my case would be maybe like once a year or something, now the option is closed to everyone? Maybe they can create an emergency tethering plan. You pay for the 1 time you need to tether. I dunno.
*dial-up isn't really dial-up in the sense you may be thinking like in the old modem dial up days.
are there extra fees when you're roaming with data and voice? I'm on the unlimited everything plan.
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are there extra fees when you're roaming with data and voice? I'm on the unlimited everything plan.
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Not in the U.S. However I've heard that if you use too much you can get booted off.
Voice/Data Usage Limitation: Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to limit throughput speeds, and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. Prohibited network use rules apply. See in-store materials or sprint.com/termsandconditions for specific prohibited uses
From the Sprint website, so a 300MB limit i presume
ooo looks like a bad call to set data roaming
I know this question is very subjective to each individual, but how much data do you guys use on a monthly basis? It would be awesome if you included the average number of things you do each month with your phone (internet time, emails, videos, etc.) I am unsure whether or not to go with a Verizon plan on the GS4 because I have no idea how much data I will use (yes, I have looked at usage calculators), but your averages would be greatly appreciated!
10 - 15 gbs on average
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10 - 15 gbs on average
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I fluctuate between 1.5 gb and 8 or 9GB depending on how often I use my Vulkano box to placeshift my TV. Many things use little data, but streaming video forget about it. It's a data hog and I'm not giving up my unlimited until forced to. It's a BS money making farce. Case in point.......Last week had to take my wife to the ER at 1 am. Kids had to be with us (young). To keep them entertained and not a total mess I tethered my tablet so they would watch the Disney channel. Vulkano is like a sling box......allows you to watch your TV on your device. In the time we were there while my wife was in the ER (she's fine btw) I used almost 2gb of data with them watching TV on the tablet.
The argument against unlimited is that there not enough "bandwidth" to go around, so they limit you to keep the network unclogged. 90% of my data comes at non peak times like this. There is no bandwidth shortage when I'm using it, so to charge me extra for data is nothing more than profiteering.
so, how much data? 2gb is standard. Do you have access to a lot of wifi, or will you be stuck on the network most of the time? That can HIGHLY influence your data usage. If wifi most of the time, you can go as low as 1. I do believe with the shared data, they update you before you go over so you can bump up the plan and not pay outrageous overages fees, and just pay for the extra data for that month.
I use between 2-4gbs a month depending on how much I'm working (work wifi sucks)
I used to have Unlimited data and ditched it to save over $120. I was using a total of 4 devices and paying over $300.00. I'm now down to 3 devices and paying around $200.00. I have the 6GB plan and we average maybe 2GB if that. I'm always using WiFi. All the hospitals I go to have WiFi and I go to many a month. Other public places have WiFi as well.
I use an average of 1 or 2gb a month. I probaly use about 1&half hours on internet/social networking apps and about 1 hour of watching youtube. But I am on wifi most of the time.
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I used to have Unlimited data and ditched it to save over $120. I was using a total of 4 devices and paying over $300.00. I'm now down to 3 devices and paying around $200.00. I have the 6GB plan and we average maybe 2GB if that. I'm always using WiFi. All the hospitals I go to have WiFi and I go to many a month. Other public places have WiFi as well.
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If all the public wifi was reliable I would be more apt to let go of my unlimited (except on a 4 phone plane with only 2 smartphones I'd pay $10 MORE for a limited plan), but in the hospital story above, there was an xfinity wifi available, and I am a customer so I can use it free, but they all limit your bandwidth, and the video stream wouldn't work.
I used to take wifi over the network when I could just to save battery life on my rezound, but the S4 lasts me a full day no problem, and if it needs a slight charge in the evening, it charges so darn quick, so I take whatever data is giving me the fastest speeds
Data Usage is never over 4 gb
I feel your concern for Data usage averages and I just wanted to tell you what I wish someone would have told me before I switched to Sprint from AT&T. Most companies that offer unlimited Data plans aren't entirely unlimited anyway. For example Sprint only allows 300 mb roaming Data. The unlimited Data connection that sprint provides in my area (Georgia) is totally garbage. Verizon 3G was honestly much faster than Sprint's 4G LTE. The point I'm trying to make is: If you have unlimited but it takes the entire month to load a YouTube video (not true of course but Sprint is EXTREMELY slow) why even bother? Just connect Wi-Fi! Sprint offers unlimited Data to reel in customers but never talk about the real speed compared with other providers. I have my own theory: the people who have unlimited Data must abuse the heck out of it. There are people who average close to 20-30 gb a month on Sprint. I honestly applaud Verizon for not allowing people to upgrade and get a discount without changing their plan. Makes my connection faster for when I need it.
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I feel your concern for Data usage averages and I just wanted to tell you what I wish someone would have told me before I switched to Sprint from AT&T. Most companies that offer unlimited Data plans aren't entirely unlimited anyway. For example Sprint only allows 300 mb roaming Data. The unlimited Data connection that sprint provides in my area (Georgia) is totally garbage. Verizon 3G was honestly much faster than Sprint's 4G LTE. The point I'm trying to make is: If you have unlimited but it takes the entire month to load a YouTube video (not true of course but Sprint is EXTREMELY slow) why even bother? Just connect Wi-Fi! Sprint offers unlimited Data to reel in customers but never talk about the real speed compared with other providers. I have my own theory: the people who have unlimited Data must abuse the heck out of it. There are people who average close to 20-30 gb a month on Sprint. I honestly applaud Verizon for not allowing people to upgrade and get a discount without changing their plan. Makes my connection faster for when I need it.
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No it doesn't, and that's what the carriers want you to believe. True there is only so much bandwidth to go around, but when I'm using 2 gb between 12-2am while your asleep......it doesn't do anything to your connection, just costs me more without unlimited. If they were honest and upfront, they'd go to peak time limits like they used to do with minutes. And if I'm at a football game in the city with 60,000 fans in the stands, limit or unlimited the phone is still unusable because of all the people connecting to the same tower. Bandwidth is just a pipeline, whether it's a gush or a trickle, the data coming through is the same. It's not a commodity that they charge for.
I use roughly 60 gigs of data per month. I tether everyday while I'm at work. I stream plenty of movies and music. I'm on the unlimited plan.
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20 - 30 gig on netflix and thethering. Downloading new roms and music playing games etc. I refuse to use wifi tho because I pay to keep unlimited.
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20 - 30 gig on netflix and thethering. Downloading new roms and music playing games etc. I refuse to use wifi tho because I pay to keep unlimited.
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I am the same way, I avg 60-70 gigs a month just because i can. I travel for work , for me to watch netflix on my ps3 and to send out my reports. Its bad enough I pay 168 $ a month on one phone, so yes I take advantage
250 g per month grandfather unlimited plan. ....
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I know this question is very subjective to each individual, but how much data do you guys use on a monthly basis? It would be awesome if you included the average number of things you do each month with your phone (internet time, emails, videos, etc.) I am unsure whether or not to go with a Verizon plan on the GS4 because I have no idea how much data I will use (yes, I have looked at usage calculators), but your averages would be greatly appreciated!
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I'll assume you're asking because you need to choose a data plan. Thus, you may need to disregard the folks who are running 10-250GB/month on their unlimited plans, because you can be sure that most would not be running those levels without 'unlimited' plans.
You also need to discount a bit for the fact that this board is chock full of enthusiasts, and probably not representative of the general population.
Personally, I had the same question when I switched from Sprint. On Sprint, I was using under 1GB/month, but not b/c I'm a low-user, it was b/c Sprint's data service s*cked so bad that I could (or would) never use it. So I had no real frame of reference when I switched to Verizon.
I chose the 2GB plan, and have found that, provided I use wi-fi where possible (home, work), I can live within the confines of that plan* (more on that in a bit).
As a user, I do maybe 30-40 minutes of web surfing a day, check FB maybe 2 or 3 times, occasionally watch a youtube video, push several email accounts multiple times per day, use Google Maps regularly (mostly weekends), download a podcast or two, listen to Pandora (10-15 mins/day), probably spend another 15-30 mins in misc. data consuming apps, and have a variety of apps running that pull background data such as weather apps, calendar sync, twitter, etc.
* So, 'living within the confines' of the 2GB plan requires some level of 'awareness' on my part, which would likely not be necessary with a larger plan. That doesn't mean heavy restrictions, just certain things I make a conscious effort to do only on wi-fi include updating Google Apps, streaming Netflix or HBO, downloading multiple podcast episodes, etc. If I had a child that had to be entertained (as another poster indicated) anytime-anywhere, I could see where the data usage could pile up. IMO, streaming video is probably the biggest consumer.
Of course, your mileage will vary
On a related note, I think it's great that the S4 allows you to track your data usage on the device, and not only tells you your cumulative monthly total, but also totals for any period and exactly which apps are using data.
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I'll assume you're asking because you need to choose a data plan. Thus, you may need to disregard the folks who are running 10-250GB/month on their unlimited plans, because you can be sure that most would not be running those levels without 'unlimited' plans.
You also need to discount a bit for the fact that this board is chock full of enthusiasts, and probably not representative of the general population.
Personally, I had the same question when I switched from Sprint. On Sprint, I was using under 1GB/month, but not b/c I'm a low-user, it was b/c Sprint's data service s*cked so bad that I could (or would) never use it. So I had no real frame of reference when I switched to Verizon.
I chose the 2GB plan, and have found that, provided I use wi-fi where possible (home, work), I can live within the confines of that plan* (more on that in a bit).
As a user, I do maybe 30-40 minutes of web surfing a day, check FB maybe 2 or 3 times, occasionally watch a youtube video, push several email accounts multiple times per day, use Google Maps regularly (mostly weekends), download a podcast or two, listen to Pandora (10-15 mins/day), probably spend another 15-30 mins in misc. data consuming apps, and have a variety of apps running that pull background data such as weather apps, calendar sync, twitter, etc.
* So, 'living within the confines' of the 2GB plan requires some level of 'awareness' on my part, which would likely not be necessary with a larger plan. That doesn't mean heavy restrictions, just certain things I make a conscious effort to do only on wi-fi include updating Google Apps, streaming Netflix or HBO, downloading multiple podcast episodes, etc. If I had a child that had to be entertained (as another poster indicated) anytime-anywhere, I could see where the data usage could pile up. IMO, streaming video is probably the biggest consumer.
Of course, your mileage will vary
On a related note, I think it's great that the S4 allows you to track your data usage on the device, and not only tells you your cumulative monthly total, but also totals for any period and exactly which apps are using data.
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That's kind of the exact same boat that I am in at the moment. I currently have Sprint, and their data speeds are awful. I consistently end up on roaming in buildings and what not, so I cannot judge the amount of data that I might actually use. So when you mentioned the things you do regularly (web, social media, maps, etc.), are those mainly done via their LTE network? And thank you for this post; it was right on track in regards to my same mindset.
It's not hard to restrain yourself to a certain plan. Like I was saying I had a 10GB plan but switched to the 6GB plan. The only reason I keep the tablet active is because they used my tablet to upgrade my primary phone to the S4. Even though the tablet never leaves my house usually I still don't use a lot of data. I never used a lot of data while on unlimited either. It;s down to personal preference and that is up to you. Everyone can say what they use and you would never have an ideal. You should have made the post say no unlimited plan since you can't get a true feeling with the unlimited's poking in.
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It's not hard to restrain yourself to a certain plan. Like I was saying I had a 10GB plan but switched to the 6GB plan. The only reason I keep the tablet active is because they used my tablet to upgrade my primary phone to the S4. Even though the tablet never leaves my house usually I still don't use a lot of data. I never used a lot of data while on unlimited either. It;s down to personal preference and that is up to you. Everyone can say what they use and you would never have an ideal. You should have made the post say no unlimited plan since you can't get a true feeling with the unlimited's poking in.
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Yeah I didn't think about the grandfathered unlimited plans before I posted it, my mistake haha.
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Yeah I didn't think about the grandfathered unlimited plans before I posted it, my mistake haha.
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WhiteRice said:
That's kind of the exact same boat that I am in at the moment. I currently have Sprint, and their data speeds are awful. I consistently end up on roaming in buildings and what not, so I cannot judge the amount of data that I might actually use. So when you mentioned the things you do regularly (web, social media, maps, etc.), are those mainly done via their LTE network? And thank you for this post; it was right on track in regards to my same mindset.
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All I can say is WOW are you going to be in for a pleasant surprise. The short answer is yes, almost all of my non-wifi usage is via 4G LTE. I live near NYC and work in Philly, and with Sprint, I kept 4G toggled 'off' b/c whenever it was 'on', there'd rarely be a 4G signal available, and when there was, it wasn't very impressive.
With this phone, the first thing I'm asking is, "Where's my 4G toggle?" Truth is, I never needed it, because a) 4G LTE is pervasive by comparison to Sprint and b) it doesn't burn battery on my S4 as it did on my S2. In fact, because of my 'conditioning' on Sprint, I always look to see what signal I'm at whenever I'm about to use data. I'd say (unscientifically), 8 or 9x out of 10 it's 4g LTE...
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Capp5050 said:
All I can say is WOW are you going to be in for a pleasant surprise. The short answer is yes, almost all of my non-wifi usage is via 4G LTE. I live near NYC and work in Philly, and with Sprint, I kept 4G toggled 'off' b/c whenever it was 'on', there'd rarely be a 4G signal available, and when there was, it wasn't very impressive.
With this phone, the first thing I'm asking is, "Where's my 4G toggle?" Truth is, I never needed it, because a) 4G LTE is pervasive by comparison to Sprint and b) it doesn't burn battery on my S4 as it did on my S2. In fact, because of my 'conditioning' on Sprint, I always look to see what signal I'm at whenever I'm about to use data. I'd say (unscientifically), 8 or 9x out of 10 it's 4g LTE...
good luck
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Thank you very much! Also, I know you mentioned it in your first reply to some extent, but exactly what all do you have syncing during the day while on LTE, and what do you think a solid estimation is for the amount of data you use in a day?
Is it possible to hide your data usage from T-mobile so they can not track where usage is in relation to the cap?
Are there any workarounds to no be throttled by T-mobile?
I have read this is all on t-mobile's side, device usage is identified by the IMEI and phone number. If there was a way to obstruct that data (identifying information) being sent to T-mobile, maybe that would avoid throttle.
Any other ideas? Is there a forum already started for this topic?
You want people to help you steal service?
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Some thoughts/links on the subject
"You might be able to encrypt or VPN to attempt to hide what your payload is but no you cannot hide that you have data going through your provider" ~ http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...any-way-hide-data-usage-service-provider.html
Services.jar hack - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2057344
DTR- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1435085
4G Hack- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1645521
MythBusting- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987029
APN Trick- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1408812
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McDeadagain said:
You want people to help you steal service?
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I don't want people to help me steal service, I already have unlimited service. I am looking to avoid data cap/throttle.
If you can't/won't help, don't reply.
Avoid throttle = steal service
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That's your opinion, troll.
Just don't reply if you don't know/can't help.
McDeadagain said:
Avoid throttle = steal service
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I agree with McDeadagain
How is he being a troll when he is correct in his response.
When a wireless carrier charges you for certain amount of data and throttles you after that, and your trying to avoid the throttling by hiding how much data your using, your essentially stealing service. Thats how i see it..
Lets use a different analogy.
Your in your car on a highway with a speed limit of 60. Your doing 90. Is it illegal? Cop didnt catch you so i guess its right? WRONG.. its illegal.. You just didnt get a ticket for performing the illegal act.
Heres a better answer. Move to a different plan that doesnt throttle after so much data usage. Pay more for the premium service. After all your expecting a premium unlimited amount of unthrottled data so pay for it..
It is far more likely that the OP wants to use the mobile hotspot with unlimited high speed. TMO doesn't sell tethering with unlimited High Speed access. I believe one can purchase an additional 15 Gb with the unlimited high speed, but that is all. The other plans include tethering, but of course they are limited in their high speed data (I personally have 2GB).
Or else he wants unlimited high speed while paying for only 500mb or 2 gb.
if what you want is to have unlimited hotspot without further charges there are a copule of threads on xda that can help, but if its just plain cell 4g data consumption you wanna hide then no you cannot, there maybe ways to preserve data but then ur stuck with slow speeds so its not cenvenient.
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I have read this is all on t-mobile's side, device usage is identified by the IMEI and phone number. If there was a way to obstruct that data (identifying information) being sent to T-mobile, maybe that would avoid throttle.
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T-Mobile doesn't monitor your usage by IMEI which is just the hardware serial number. If they did you could just move your sim. They monitor it by your IMSI which is your account id. While some APN's and some network nodes are found from time to time that don't have throttling enabled, when they are found they are corrected. Just buy the unlimited plan, its not like T-Mobile charges a ton for it.
If you are asking for the tethering, then that's a whole different discussion which actually can be fruitful.
Yeah you can't hide data usage but if your like me, I have the unlimited data unthrottled plan that doesn't include tether. Yet through a hack I tether 10GB-20GB per month unthrottled.
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fmedrano1977 said:
Yeah you can't hide data usage but if your like me, I have the unlimited data unthrottled plan that doesn't include tether. Yet through a hack I tether 10GB-20GB per month unthrottled.
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Which hack do you use? Maybe that can help the OP.
YOU CAN'T EVER HIDE YOUR USAGE FROM YOUR PROVIDER.
Regardless of VPN or any other jazz you use to attempt this, they will always have the upper hand on you. Think about it like this: your a small town in a city which only access to the rest of the world is via one street and one highway, that street and highway is provided to you by T-Mobile.
Enough said.
If you want to traffic more, pay more, otherwise stay within your boundaries.
megabiteg said:
YOU CAN'T EVER HIDE YOUR USAGE FROM YOUR PROVIDER.
Regardless of VPN or any other jazz you use to attempt this, they will always have the upper hand on you. Think about it like this: your a small town in a city which only access to the rest of the world is via one street and one highway, that street and highway is provided to you by T-Mobile.
Enough said.
If you want to traffic more, pay more, otherwise stay within your boundaries.
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well then indeed going by your terms one must simply trick or blind tmobile not avoid them such as in your words "use there highway but only at nite when they cant see you" lol
IAmSixNine said:
Which hack do you use? Maybe that can help the OP.
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For starters he needs knowledge on decompiling and recompiling APKs. You must edit the APN.xml located in the framework-res.apk, deleting the hidden tether APN and removing the read only state from T-Mobile APNs.
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fmedrano1977 said:
For starters he needs knowledge on decompiling and recompiling APKs. You must edit the APN.xml located in the framework-res.apk, deleting the hidden tether APN and removing the read only state from T-Mobile APNs.
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Hi, which values specifically do we need to remove on apns.xml file? There are bunch of hidden tether APN lines with different values. Remove all? Also, after those steps, do we need to do something else?
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Trahald said:
Hi, which values specifically do we need to remove on apns.xml file? There are bunch of hidden tether APN lines with different values. Remove all? Also, after those steps, do we need to do something else?
Thanks!
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You can either remove the segment that indicates hidden or the entire line. I couldn't remember which line applied to me so I removed all the hidden segments (with find and replace). And I replaced all the 'webpc' (or whatever it is) with 'fast' for the address. Because I only removed the hidden segment I still have a tethering apn but it's visible and editable.
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Data Throttle=Bad Business
McDeadagain said:
Avoid throttle = steal service
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Avoid Throttle = Getting the unlimited service that I paid for
I am finding my 4g service throttled down to 2kbs I can not even use Google Navigation with that. I was told that my throttle would never go below 3g speeds as long as 3g is available and it is. I had a 3g phone with the same company for 6 years before upgrading and my speeds were always 1.1 to 1.5Mbs. I would be very happy with that. I am only trying to get what I was promised and what I pay for.
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Avoid Throttle = Getting the unlimited service that I paid for
I am finding my 4g service throttled down to 2kbs I can not even use Google Navigation with that. I was told that my throttle would never go below 3g speeds as long as 3g is available and it is. I had a 3g phone with the same company for 6 years before upgrading and my speeds were always 1.1 to 1.5Mbs. I would be very happy with that. I am only trying to get what I was promised and what I pay for.
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I pay for unlimited 4G LTE service, but I was told after multiple customer service calls that I'm being throttled due to my high data usage. I would find a hack to avoid said throttling quite morally correct, in my case.
@metropcsflash - What @PunishedSnake is trying to alert you to is that Throttling is at 2G speeds. NOT 3G. You were either misinformed by the TMO rep, or you heard what you wanted to hear. Either way if you do a small bit of research you will see that TMO does not give you 3G speeds throttled. Lets also loose the term 2G and 3G. When it comes to TMO that is a bit of a gray area. Since they called HSDPA+ 4G when it was really 3.5G and truly 4G is LTE.
In this case 2G is GPRS/EDGE speeds and 3G would be HSDPA/+.
So with that said, you will not get 1 meg or close to it being throttled. SO if you are expecting that you should move to a different carrier or go back and confront the sales person who you said told you that.
So to re-coupe, you have 3 options.
1 is to upgrade the rate plan to one that has no throttling after a certain amount of data is used.
2 understand that you will not get 3g / 1 meg of DL speed with your current plan because TMO doesnt offer it. The rep misinformed you or you heard wrong.
3 move on to a carrier that fits your financial needs and data needs.