Hey guys, been reading the threads and playing around with Joker's locked ROMs, but when I heard Moto abandoned the official ICS upgrade I bit the bullet and decided to jump into the unlocked ROMs. My most important concern is stability and battery life. I decided to try CannonROM (based on Joker's CM9 0.8.1), but after one day the battery life is killing me. I barely made it through 4-5 hrs with moderate use. I did apply the Facebook Sync "fix" which reenables the native facebook sync... could that be causing the battery drain? Should I just rewipe and reinstall?
What is the difference between CM10 and AOKP? I know TheBill has taken over both and has been updating them like crazy (thanks Bill!) but which has the better stability and battery life so far?
dshim99 said:
Hey guys, been reading the threads and playing around with Joker's locked ROMs, but when I heard Moto abandoned the official ICS upgrade I bit the bullet and decided to jump into the unlocked ROMs. My most important concern is stability and battery life. I decided to try CannonROM (based on Joker's CM9 0.8.1), but after one day the battery life is killing me. I barely made it through 4-5 hrs with moderate use. I did apply the Facebook Sync "fix" which reenables the native facebook sync... could that be causing the battery drain? Should I just rewipe and reinstall?
What is the difference between CM10 and AOKP? I know TheBill has taken over both and has been updating them like crazy (thanks Bill!) but which has the better stability and battery life so far?
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One day isn't enough to know how a ROM will do with battery life. You have to charge, discharge, recharge, several times, wiping battery stats each time. That 4-5 hrs could just be that it isn't calibrated yet. Cannon seemed just fine for me with battery. I haven't really found a bad ROM for battery life in the CM9 and CM10 ROMS here. I do think one ROM stands out, but it's based on CM7, and that's peetr's CM7 2.3.5 hybrid ROM. That's my daily.
fester30 said:
One day isn't enough to know how a ROM will do with battery life. You have to charge, discharge, recharge, several times, wiping battery stats each time. That 4-5 hrs could just be that it isn't calibrated yet. Cannon seemed just fine for me with battery. I haven't really found a bad ROM for battery life in the CM9 and CM10 ROMS here. I do think one ROM stands out, but it's based on CM7, and that's peetr's CM7 2.3.5 hybrid ROM. That's my daily.
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Thanks for the reply. Point taken. I tried reinstalling CannonROM to clear out that Facebook Sync "fix". I'm still having trouble with Flash not working after I manually installed it, with either Browser or Dolphin. Also some GoogleVoice aspects don't work (like voice-to-text) even though GoogleNow does. I think I might try AOKP or CM10 to see if it likes my phone better...
Try then new 4.1.2 cm10 it works great for me and good battery life
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MIONS said:
Try then new 4.1.2 cm10 it works great for me and good battery life
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I ended up going with AOKP and am very happy with it so far! It was quite buggy at first, even after multiple wipes and reinstalls, but then I realized I was only doing Full Wipe, Wipe Cache, and Wipe Dalvik, but not doing Format /system. Once I did that it really cleaned up and is working great.
One issue I'm trying to troubleshoot is that system won't scan my old media files on my external SD (but I can see, access, and play them through a File Browser). I've tried having it mounted as Internal and as External. I've gone through and deleted all .nomedia files. I cleared data on the music, gallery, and media storage apps. What's weird is when I downloaded new pictures from email, or took new pictures, and the files were saved to the SD card, the system was briefly able to find them, even if it couldn't see older pics in the same folder! Once I cleared the media storage app, then it couldn't see those files anymore.
I moved all my old media files to the Internal "sdcard" and now the system sees them. I then tried reformatting the External sdcard in CWM (Using Joker v3) and with Windows (FAT32) but both times if I copy an old media file back to the card it isn't seen by the system.
Am I not formatting the card properly? Since the files can be seen and manually run through a File Browser, I'm guessing it has to do with either the code for how the system scans media, or maybe a problem with the mount path schemes? Help!
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Thanks for the reply. Point taken. I tried reinstalling CannonROM to clear out that Facebook Sync "fix". I'm still having trouble with Flash not working after I manually installed it, with either Browser or Dolphin. Also some GoogleVoice aspects don't work (like voice-to-text) even though GoogleNow does. I think I might try AOKP or CM10 to see if it likes my phone better...
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Ever since Bill has started building from source, I would consider JB to have surpassed the level of stability as my CM9 based CannonROM. I am waiting to see what changes come in the immediate future with the atrix leak and if cybik releases his kernel. When the smoke clears cannonROMs base will be updated to JB AOKP and updates will resume. For now, go will one of Bills sourcebuilds.
I run Gummy 1.2.1 GSM only problem I have is caps doesn't lock and browser rotate FC all the time but great battery life and stability its been used for playing Deity Wars all night and this morning (about 8 total he's of use) and still at 91%
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I installed the Nameless v4 yesterday and v4.1 today.
On the Froyo roms my battery pull on idol was -2 to -10ma [i use battery monitor widget]
Now on the GB i am getting -100 to -275.
Is anyone else experiencing this kind of draw?
[I do understand that the GB is a wip]
I can't speak on the new build, but I was running the 4.0 build and my battery ran down so quickly that I thought I left my gps running with a connection. I also was having quite a lot of issues with the rom, so I thought it was a fluke. I'm on 4.1 and it's been running much better, so hopefully the battery drain isn't as great.
Definitely sounds like you've got a runaway process or wake-lock occurring somewhere. Have a look around the processes and see if something's keeping the CPU running hard. Also run a dumpsys power from adb and see if something's keeping it from sleeping.
Im getting quite the opposite here. It's been almost a day and after moderate use I have a little over 50%. It's amazing because I would be getting half of that on a full charge in froyo.
Looks like it may have been the Widget itself.
But i am not sure, if i closed the running application of Battery Monitor it dropped down to -1 or -2 but then ten mins later its back up to -300.
The other possibility is when i kill the app the widget gets no information and defaults to a low number.
Thank you everyone for your input. I will keep on testing to find my battery killer.
I also may try uninstalling K-9 mail and reverting to the stock Mail client
It being on stock kernel and a lot of debugging features being enabled will do that to your battery.
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A lot of people have reported poor battery life with K-9, FWIW, though the K-9 devs say there isn't an issue. I haven't used it myself so I can't really say... you could try this though:
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.r3pek.k9datakiller&feature=also_installed
4.1 drained my battery from 100% to 10% in about 4 hours today. But then I plugged in and rebooted and I had 40%, so I would imagine a battery stats wipe is needed on my phone.
My home button does not work as well, so I am going to re-install again and see if it fixes these issues.
Anyone else had the home button issue?
Edit: The re install fix the home button/lock screen issue. Will report back on the battery tomorrow.
Weird, my battery is AMAZING on Nameless. After 11 hours with using Screeble, with moderate use, I'm at 50%.
xwhofarted said:
I installed the Nameless v4 yesterday and v4.1 today.
On the Froyo roms my battery pull on idol was -2 to -10ma [i use battery monitor widget]
Now on the GB i am getting -100 to -275.
Is anyone else experiencing this kind of draw?
[I do understand that the GB is a wip]
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I tried Nameless 4.0 and it used less than 20% during the first 6 hours.
Whenever I flash a new rom, it uses more power at first and less and less as you use the phone. Some people insist that you do not have to kill the apps especially on Gingerbread.
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Some people insist that you do not have to kill the apps especially on Gingerbread.
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Assuming you're talking about task killers, "some people" = Google. With the exception of apps like Watchdog (which just notifies you of apps using excessive CPU, like >50%), task killers hurt more than they help -- they're all effectively scams.
Google's serious techy explanation:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.
An excellent, understandable article from Lifehacker:
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
I thought I read somewhere (either the EC09 Leak thread on the Nameless v4 thread) that auto-rotate is causing 50% cpu for this EC09 leak, would that have something to do with battery drain?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131213&page=15
Thanks
saw the one about auto rotate and turned it off, then i was in the -50 to -100
But that is still bad coming from froyo`s -2 to -10
So i went back to Com Rom and will be awaiting the best Devs on XDA to crack the Leak and make some fantastic ROMS, just like they did with Froyo!
Keep up the good work!
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saw the one about auto rotate and turned it off, then i was in the -50 to -100
But that is still bad coming from froyo`s -2 to -10
So i went back to Com Rom and will be awaiting the best Devs on XDA to crack the Leak and make some fantastic ROMS, just like they did with Froyo!
Keep up the good work!
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I suggest disabling auto rotate, rebooting, and then never turning auto rotate on again. (even toggling on/off can get the events/0 process stuck at high cpu usage) Once I did this, the full bloated GB leak is spanking Froyo battery life.
This more than makes up for the poor contacts scrolling for this guy.
Also full bloated GB leak appears to be much safer for you SD card than other versions of the leak.
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I suggest disabling auto rotate, rebooting, and then never turning auto rotate on again. (even toggling on/off can get the events/0 process stuck at high cpu usage) Once I did this, the full bloated GB leak is spanking Froyo battery life.
This more than makes up for the poor contacts scrolling for this guy.
Also full bloated GB leak appears to be much safer for you SD card than other versions of the leak.
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This. My battery life (and signal dBm) has been MUCH better even at work, which is notoriously hard on the battery due to being so well insulated.
I've had ZERO issues with the SD card so far, and it's a huge mystery what exactly is causing that. I ODIN'd the leak an hour after it was posted, then the NamelessV4 rom, then the NamelessV4.1 and haven't had a single issue. There needs to be a better process of defining it, and I'd be willing to bet it has something to do with the recovery the person used when it was flashed.
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I've had ZERO issues with the SD card so far, and it's a huge mystery what exactly is causing that. I ODIN'd the leak an hour after it was posted, then the NamelessV4 rom, then the NamelessV4.1 and haven't had a single issue. There needs to be a better process of defining it, and I'd be willing to bet it has something to do with the recovery the person used when it was flashed.
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I was one of the unlucky ones that had a 16GB get ruined. But i know it was my fault. i didnt odin the original leak i went from com rom to nameless and it botched my card. But i am lucky i had my POS BB Storm 2's 16gb. I also went and got a $10 4gb card that i now use when testing out the GB roms [better safe than sorry]
I will try that with the new rom and let you know what i am getting.
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I was one of the unlucky ones that had a 16GB get ruined. But i know it was my fault. i didnt odin the original leak i went from com rom to nameless and it botched my card. But i am lucky i had my POS BB Storm 2's 16gb. I also went and got a $10 4gb card that i now use when testing out the GB roms [better safe than sorry]
I will try that with the new rom and let you know what i am getting.
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That's definitely what I'd be leaning towards. I also took the added (though not really needed) step of using the GB root exploit app, and confirming all was well before ever flashing CWM3.xx in ODIN, then going onto the nameless ROMs. I've actually tried to re-create the problem since I stuck in a spare 4GB card waiting for it to happen, but nothing so far.
Everything is so new, it's really all speculation for the time being. I personally don't think it's the ROM or the leak causing the problem, although it's obviously a factor. There are so many different combinations of recoveries being used (as if all of us read directions in full) and ROMs were flashed in different sequences that it's impossible to nail it down.
Aside from disabling auto rotate, I've had no complaints about the leak or ROM. I ran CM7 forever on my Eris before getting this Fascinate, and while I like it, it's a pain to deal with the missing functionality at times.
xwhofarted said:
I was one of the unlucky ones that had a 16GB get ruined. But i know it was my fault. i didnt odin the original leak i went from com rom to nameless and it botched my card. But i am lucky i had my POS BB Storm 2's 16gb. I also went and got a $10 4gb card that i now use when testing out the GB roms [better safe than sorry]
I will try that with the new rom and let you know what i am getting.
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I went from stock odin to nameless and my card was eaten alive...I followed the steps exactly as listed not missing one thing. So it has nothing to do with flashing from another rom
detox07 said:
I went from stock odin to nameless and my card was eaten alive...I followed the steps exactly as listed not missing one thing. So it has nothing to do with flashing from another rom
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So, immediately upon flashing the sd card was corrupted?
It'd be nice if there was more cooperation among everyone to figure out the common problem. It seems like for all the trouble reports, there are as many or more of us with no issues. I can't see anything in logs that would tip off a problem, so it needs to be someone who has the issue.
I'm still leaning towards it being a recovery issue. It's odd that some people are saying the files still appear on the sd when viewed through the CWM interface.
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Man, that would be awful if the CWM we were told to use is what is killing the SD cards, and a diffr version would have worked :O
I used the CWM linked in the nameless thread and no issue so far, but only 2 days so far.
Just a thread to see what the majority of people are choosing to run right now and which you have tested as well. This is NOT intended to be any type of a bashing thread, just please stick to what you've tested and what you've chosen to currently use.
As for myself, I'm running UnNamed from gtg and have been for a bit now. I've removed a few additional pieces of software that I didn't want and modified the battery icon but other than that, it's pretty much as is.
I've tested and have a backup of CM 7 and I'm planning to test Cognition next...
I am running UnNamed, I had a circle battery mod, but flashed the full update and have stuck with it as-is. I ran Cognition with no issues or complaints, but wanted the extended power menu.
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I'm running Cognition as of yesterday. For a few days before that I was running a stock + root ROM.
I must say, my battery lasts sooooooo much longer since installing Cognition compared to Stock. I just now hit 90% and it's been off the charger (getting regular use: some idle, some web browsing, some pp installs) for about 6 hours now.
I love it.
Kadin said:
Just a thread to see what the majority of people are choosing to run right now and which you have tested as well. This is NOT intended to be any type of a bashing thread, just please stick to what you've tested and what you've chosen to currently use.
As for myself, I'm running UnNamed from gtg and have been for a bit now. I've removed a few additional pieces of software that I didn't want and modified the battery icon but other than that, it's pretty much as is.
I've tested and have a backup of CM 7 and I'm planning to test Cognition next...
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I'm on Cognition and haven't tried others, yet. It works and as ROMs have appeared, I've pulled what I wanted from them. I get great battery life (3 hours of display time, but lately it's been increasing - yesterday I got 4 and today I'm on pace for over 5 hours of display ). I'm really interested in CM7. I hadn't tried it yet because I'm not convinced that it's bug free (which is important for me). What did you think of it?
I'm getting such poor battery life still, even after rooting and removing data hogs (AP Mobile, etc.), running BBS and CPUSpy to monitor, and turning off unnecessary sync. I'm thinking about moving to Cognition, but I kinda like Touchwiz's interface and the safety of running stock.
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I'm on Cognition and haven't tried others, yet. It works and as ROMs have appeared, I've pulled what I wanted from them. I get great battery life (3 hours of display time, but lately it's been increasing - yesterday I got 4 and today I'm on pace for over 5 hours of display ). I'm really interested in CM7. I hadn't tried it yet because I'm not convinced that it's bug free (which is important for me). What did you think of it?
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I liked CM7. I probably didn't give it enough time to make an accurate assessment of it as I liked the idea of trying UnNamed simply because I like the stock build as it is... minus the garbage bloatware and wanted the extended power menu. I'd highly recommend giving CM7 a shot though. I simply get each rom running and then do a full nandroid backup in case I want to go back in the future - barring any major improvements of course in which case I'll start out fresh.
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I'm getting such poor battery life still, even after rooting and removing data hogs (AP Mobile, etc.), running BBS and CPUSpy to monitor, and turning off unnecessary sync. I'm thinking about moving to Cognition, but I kinda like Touchwiz's interface and the safety of running stock.
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I have to say that I was never much of a believer in Juice Defender but between running that program and doing a battery calibration with the app, BatteryCalibration, my battery life has increased quite a bit. I've still got Gmail auto syncing but I have turned off 'Back up my data' in Privacy and keep GPS off until I need it. Everything else is running as is. Oh and no Facebook or Words with Friends. I login to Facebook via Dolphin HD when I have to check it on the go.
Running UnNamed 1.0.3 and really like it. Clean, snappy and excellent battery life (yes, better than stock rom).
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Running UnNamed 1.0.3 and really like it. Clean, snappy and excellent battery life (yes, better than stock rom).
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+1 for UnNamed.... love that rom!
Ive been on cog beta 4 for a while and it is perfect. Picked up DD exp kernal a few days ago and its still perfect. Perfect combo i guess. Battery life is amazing. After 15 hour days i am always getting 4 hours of screen on time along with playing music thoughout the day and few calls and messages data and sync always on.
I have yet to have any problems and gonna make this my offical "go back to, stable rom" when others start to drive me nuts. I would like to just stay on this rom and call it good cause its perfect but that never happens.
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UnNamed 1.0.3 for the past two days. Had no issues and I like the added features. This is the only custom ROM I tried so far.
roadrash7 said:
Ive been on cog beta 4 for a while and it is perfect. Picked up DD exp kernal a few days ago and its still perfect. Perfect combo i guess. Battery life is amazing. After 15 hour days i am always getting 4 hours of screen on time along with playing music thoughout the day and few calls and messages data and sync always on.
I have yet to have any problems and gonna make this my offical "go back to, stable rom" when others start to drive me nuts. I would like to just stay on this rom and call it good cause its perfect but that never happens.
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Wow.... That sounds impressive. I may need to give that rom a whir then.
I've been reading up a lot about custom ROMs, and more often than not CM9 always gets a mention. I'm tempted to flash it but just wanting to know is it really worth it? Does it have major improvements on battery and performance, and what are the main things that make it so much better than the stock ROM?
Also is it easy to revert back to the stock? I've already got my phone rooted with CF-Root, is that the clockworkmod recovery I've read about, and if so can I just go ahead with making a backup and flashing with CM9?
Any help/info would be appreciated.
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I've been reading up a lot about custom ROMs, and more often than not CM9 always gets a mention. I'm tempted to flash it but just wanting to know is it really worth it? Does it have major improvements on battery and performance, and what are the main things that make it so much better than the stock ROM?
Also is it easy to revert back to the stock? I've already got my phone rooted with CF-Root, is that the clockworkmod recovery I've read about, and if so can I just go ahead with making a backup and flashing with CM9?
Any help/info would be appreciated.
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Its users choice read what does not work first .
CF root is not Clockwork Recovery but it probably has CWM recovery incorporated .
CWM manager in apps and boot to recovery should show CWM options .
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CM9 is experimental and still has several flaws and issues.
I'd not recommend it for everyday usage if you're not a developer or like living on the edge.
Plus, 3G battery life is terrible since CM9 has no Fast Dormancy. Within ~5 hours the battery was always dead on me.
Samsung-based Roms make it more than 24 hours in contrast.
It will of course get better when the ROM is properly fixed and all features integrated. It always does =)
Also is it easy to revert back to the stock?
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Flash Stock firmware through Odin, then factoryreset the phone in CWM. You're back to stock
d4fseeker said:
CM9 is experimental and still has several flaws and issues.
I'd not recommend it for everyday usage if you're not a developer or like living on the edge.
Plus, 3G battery life is terrible since CM9 has no Fast Dormancy. Within ~5 hours the battery was always dead on me.
Samsung-based Roms make it more than 24 hours in contrast.
It will of course get better when the ROM is properly fixed and all features integrated. It always does =)
Flash Stock firmware through Odin, then factoryreset the phone in CWM. You're back to stock
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So that must be the drain issue everyone is talking about. I use 2G only on T-Mobile and I get awesome battery life haha. Good to know I must be the only one
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a lot of the battery issues are due to not resetting battery stats. You fully charge the phone, clear the stats, then charge it again I think? Search there are instructions.
I've got CM9 on an Atrix which isn't even a supported device and it's totally daily usable. The only things I lose which are only b'cause it's an atrix are:
Fingerprint reader
Webtop
video camera
Check out what works and doesn't with CM9 for your phone and decide. I like it a lot, it's TOTALLY stripped though, like no google aps (you can install them as a package)... There are lots of weird intricacies to it but it's cool as hell IMO
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a lot of the battery issues are due to not resetting battery stats. You fully charge the phone, clear the stats, then charge it again I think? Search there are instructions.
I've got CM9 on an Atrix which isn't even a supported device and it's totally daily usable. The only things I lose which are only b'cause it's an atrix are:
Fingerprint reader
Webtop
video camera
Check out what works and doesn't with CM9 for your phone and decide. I like it a lot, it's TOTALLY stripped though, like no google aps (you can install them as a package)... There are lots of weird intricacies to it but it's cool as hell IMO
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Resetting/erasing battery stats does nothing.
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I've got CM9 on an Atrix
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At least the build for Atrix is not pre-alpha EXPERIMENTAL =)
It takes some time for the developers to get it right on the S3. I've never said CM9 itself had issues, it's the combination of CM9+ i9300 that needs some serious work.
I have or manage a couple of CM9-flashed devices (from Galaxy S1 over Galaxy S2 to Motorola Xoom) so I know how awesome the Rom is =)
Cheers for all the replys.
Are there any other custom ROMs worth looking at? I've heard CM9 is the most popular but if it's not quite usable daily yet I might give something else a try.
CM9 is currently very usable. I have no problems whatsoever. It has many advantages to stock ROM like no low free memory problem, no launcher redraws and no lags. The only real disadvantage is that the camera app sucks compared to stock.
It must like your phone better.
Kept turning off the modem for no reason, sometimes restart was necessary to connect.
It also has no fd as already described, so many people will notice a huge drain in 3g.
Btw you can easily get rid of memory issues by freezing/removin, all the apps you do not need but which are always running.
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CM9 is currently very usable. I have no problems whatsoever. It has many advantages to stock ROM like no low free memory problem, no launcher redraws and no lags. The only real disadvantage is that the camera app sucks compared to stock.
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I agree 100pct.
I don't even notice it's rom'd till I want to take a video or use webtop :-(
The tablet switching roms work great though. I played with jokers and LOVED it but couldn't get gapps installed for some reason.
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Just upgraded from CM9 7/12 to 8/14. First time using goo and twrp 2.2. I was aware of the probs at goo so I held off until it appeared they had restored their database. Seemed to take a long time to download the zip file and when I tried to flash the latest it seemed to go through the steps but when I rebooted my TP was still on the old ROM. I went into twrp and flashed the wiped, flashed, and rewiped wtice from there and everything was good to go.
8/14 seems a bit faster and smoother. I am letting it run a few days before trying to see how the battery works versus the July ROM. One thing I wish the CM9 TP could improve on is wifi strength... seems I don't have much "range" (seems well less than when I had WebOS).
I am very interested in trying one of the other ROMS... either ClassicNerd or OAT's CM9.Sounds like OAT's is not only faster/better battery but also may have better wifi? These may seem like dumb questions but I should be able to download direct onto the TP without using my laptop, correct (neither appear to be on goo)? I tried to download OAT's latest onto my laptop but some annoying malware (funmoods) followed along so I am a bit leery to do that again.
Nomad1600 said:
Just upgraded from CM9 7/12 to 8/14. First time using goo and twrp 2.2. I was aware of the probs at goo so I held off until it appeared they had restored their database. Seemed to take a long time to download the zip file and when I tried to flash the latest it seemed to go through the steps but when I rebooted my TP was still on the old ROM. I went into twrp and flashed the wiped, flashed, and rewiped wtice from there and everything was good to go.
8/14 seems a bit faster and smoother. I am letting it run a few days before trying to see how the battery works versus the July ROM. One thing I wish the CM9 TP could improve on is wifi strength... seems I don't have much "range" (seems well less than when I had WebOS).
I am very interested in trying one of the other ROMS... either ClassicNerd or OAT's CM9.Sounds like OAT's is not only faster/better battery but also may have better wifi? These may seem like dumb questions but I should be able to download direct onto the TP without using my laptop, correct (neither appear to be on goo)? I tried to download OAT's latest onto my laptop but some annoying malware (funmoods) followed along so I am a bit leery to do that again.
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Yup, you sure can. You'll find it in XDA_DOWNLOADS if you use the XDA app, or in DOWNLOADS if you are using the browser.
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Yup, you sure can. You'll find it in XDA_DOWNLOADS if you use the XDA app, or in DOWNLOADS if you are using the browser.
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I know this will make me look even dumber, but where do I find XDA_DOWNLOADS in the XDA app (you mean, XDA Premium which is a reader app)? Same question re: DOWNLOADS if I am using a browser?
I can find the first post in the forum under "development" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557111
But that is the one that takes you to a download site where I picked up the funmoods bug. Is there some other place I can download directly to my TouchPad? Thanks again for the help!
You can download to the Touchpad by clicking (selecting) the download link. It will download to your download folder. What I do is then move the file to the root of the sd and install using cwm. I don't use goop or TWRP as I've had problems with both. I find cwm easy to use and pretty fool-proof. I use either es file explorer or file manager HD to move the files. I don't use the xda app, I do it from the website itself.
OATs, worked fine with me. Imo I think it's the best CM9 Rom for the touchpad.
I made some minor changes (changed wallpaper to a simple static design, lowered my screen brightness even further with RootDim), downloaded a few battery related tools (eg Battery Monitor Widget) and will soon download Better Battery Stats. I uninstalled Juice Defender and instead went into Settings to shut off wifi when the screen is off and it plugged in. It has only been a day but battery life seems dramatically better. It looks like I will be getting more than a day moderate use between charges at the rate its going today. I suspect with better data and history derived I should see even better battery performance.
I still want to try OAT's ROM but I'd like to let the 8/14 settle in a bit more.
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Nomad1600 said:
I made some minor changes (changed wallpaper to a simple static design, lowered my screen brightness even further with RootDim), downloaded a few battery related tools (eg Battery Monitor Widget) and will soon download Better Battery Stats. I uninstalled Juice Defender and instead went into Settings to shut off wifi when the screen is off and it plugged in. It has only been a day but battery life seems dramatically better. It looks like I will be getting more than a day moderate use between charges at the rate its going today. I suspect with better data and history derived I should see even better battery performance.
I still want to try OAT's ROM but I'd like to let the 8/14 settle in a bit more.
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Unfortunately OAT's rom is discontinued. Its a real shame since it was a good and stable ROM (especially the Linaro builds which were super charged).
Anyone has a mirror of the latest built?? I was holding off upgrade, so I don't have to reinstall the apps. Now all the original mediafire links are offline.
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Anyone has a mirror of the latest built?? I was holding off upgrade, so I don't have to reinstall the apps. Now all the original mediafire links are offline.
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The ROM's thread indicates that OaT requested that those who have it respect his decision and not post them. I actually was also intending to try it just this morning, since OaT responded to one of my questions on another thread and it reminded me that I'd heard good things about his ROM.
4) and it's very very annoying... so much so that I sometimes (multiple times in a day, actually) wish to get back to Android 2.3.3, which I had before updating to Samsung's (India) version of Android 4.1.2 for my GS2.
What could be the problem? I rarely ever connect to WiFi (am always connected to GPRS/EDGE, but that has never been a problem in the last 2 years... the phone still used to get nearly a day of battery life) and the brightness is almost always at the lowest. I rarely use Bluetooth, GPS, etc. I don't even use Facebook and WhatsApp anymore, so the screen isn't used to the max. I've turned off all the Location Sharing settings for Google Maps and/or other apps (I use very few apps anyway, but have a bunch of them installed on the phone... none that execute in the background though | also not more than a couple new apps after my OS upgrade).
It's been nearly a week since upgrading the OS on my phone. Last night when I hit the bed at 1.15AM my time, the battery was at 100% (after charging). With no activity whatsoever in the night, the charge had dropped to 88% by 9.35AM. That's less than 8.5 hours of no use and 12% charge gone. That never was the case earlier.
Also, for each minute of using the phone with the screen on, I notice 1-1.5% drop in the battery. That is, to put it very very mildly, PATHETIC!!!
I don't know what to do. Would a "clean rom" install help? If so, what exactly is a "clean rom" install?
Or should I be doing something else?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
P.S.: Please let me know if any other info is needed too. BIG BIG Thanks in advance to anyone reading this
5) Read about jb settings/issues.
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Hi OP,
I haven't been on the i9100 for that long, but have also been annoyed with short battery life. As have many others from what I read. A 12% drop over about 8 hours of sleep, I'm sorry to say, doesn't seem that bad actually for an SGS2 with stock jb 4.1.2 and stock battery.
Personally, I tried different lightweight ROMs that are known to spare your battery. The advice to turn off 3g and other core functions never made sense to me, as I want an operable phone, not some sort of deflated piece of junk.
After reading on xda I went through Slimbean , Liquidsmooth, and other ROMs to see if they would increase battery life.
My current ROM is NeatROM 4.8, which actually seemed to give better results. Please note that this is purely subjective, though, I have no fancy battery analyses to back up my statement.
What REALLY helped was getting a replacement battery.
I tried Qcell 1950 mAh batteries. Stay away from those. They are clearly not 1950 mAh. Now running with a genuine Samsung 2000 mAh which is worth every dime.
Now I imagine you would be frustrated having to buy a new battery just because you updated your firmware and I do understand. I never owned the SGS2 before jb, so my choice was simple I guess. That having been said, though, the 2000 mAh battery really turned the phone into a whole new sort of usable. It easily lasts through the day even with regular use.
Just my 2 cents.
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jsiv said:
Hi OP,
I haven't been on the i9100 for that long, but have also been annoyed with short battery life. As have many others from what I read. A 12% drop over about 8 hours of sleep, I'm sorry to say, doesn't seem that bad actually for an SGS2 with stock jb 4.1.2 and stock battery.
Personally, I tried different lightweight ROMs that are known to spare your battery. The advice to turn off 3g and other core functions never made sense to me, as I want an operable phone, not some sort of deflated piece of junk.
After reading on xda I went through Slimbean , Liquidsmooth, and other ROMs to see if they would increase battery life.
My current ROM is NeatROM 4.8, which actually seemed to give better results. Please note that this is purely subjective, though, I have no fancy battery analyses to back up my statement.
What REALLY helped was getting a replacement battery.
I tried Qcell 1950 mAh batteries. Stay away from those. They are clearly not 1950 mAh. Now running with a genuine Samsung 2000 mAh which is worth every dime.
Now I imagine you would be frustrated having to buy a new battery just because you updated your firmware and I do understand. I never owned the SGS2 before jb, so my choice was simple I guess. That having been said, though, the 2000 mAh battery really turned the phone into a whole new sort of usable. It easily lasts through the day even with regular use.
Just my 2 cents.
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yea.. u said it...even i have tried several custom roms ( NeatRom, WanamLite,RR etc) all give 15-19 Hrs max.. and this also by tweaking all the settings..
S2 is a undoubted beast, but the cost in terms of battery is very hight..my previous Android Motorola Defy was a Mammoth in itself..huge custom fanbase and loads of ROMS + Awsome battery.
Any ways i got no regretts for having a S2..but battery s a lil concern..
Currently am on Asnet MIUI V5 and its going good..fast, responsive, smooth and decent battery of 18 hours avg..
@jsiv - i wanted to ask u a question.. which country u hail from ?? because the stock 2000 mah battery is not available in India, my region.
Cheers:angel:
Do you calibrate battery after every ROM change?
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5) Read about jb settings/issues.
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Can you please point me in the "settings" direction? I think I'm doing all things right, going real low on app usage, sync-ing of apps, screen settings, etc.
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Do you calibrate battery after every ROM change?
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What exactly is battery calibration here? Please pardon my ignorance. I did a full charge when my phone hit got switched off the day after upgrading the OS. Is there something else I must be doing here?
I've had this problem right after the upgrade. So, I don't think it's an issue with my battery per se. It could just be JB.
How good is the Cynaogen Mod ROM in terms of battery life?
Or would it be wiser to switch to Android 4.0/ ICS?
I live in Denmark. I ordered it off Ebay, but I see now that the UK shop I got it from doesn't ship to India.
You searched Ebay for "Samsung genuine 2000 mAh battery" or similar?
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Can you please point me in the "settings" direction? I think I'm doing all things right, going real low on app usage, sync-ing of apps, screen settings, etc.
What exactly is battery calibration here? Please pardon my ignorance. I did a full charge when my phone hit got switched off the day after upgrading the OS. Is there something else I must be doing here?
I've had this problem right after the upgrade. So, I don't think it's an issue with my battery per se. It could just be JB.
How good is the Cynaogen Mod ROM in terms of battery life?
Or would it be wiser to switch to Android 4.0/ ICS?
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Cyanogenmod roms are very fast ROM they are good as hell
Ur problem is genuine go to the playstore and download battery calibration app and follow the instructions in the app charge or battery up to 100 % and caliberate the battery u should have made an nandroid backup before upgrading
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Can you please point me in the "settings" direction? I think I'm doing all things right, going real low on app usage, sync-ing of apps, screen settings, etc.
What exactly is battery calibration here? Please pardon my ignorance. I did a full charge when my phone hit got switched off the day after upgrading the OS. Is there something else I must be doing here?
I've had this problem right after the upgrade. So, I don't think it's an issue with my battery per se. It could just be JB.
How good is the Cynaogen Mod ROM in terms of battery life?
Or would it be wiser to switch to Android 4.0/ ICS?
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Battery calibration: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312273
This has to be done every time you do a ROM upgrade or change ROMs.
CM has excellent battery life when compared to other ROMs.
If you are switching over to ICS stay away from version 4.0.4 as it has EMMC brick bug.Any other version would be fine.
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4) and it's very very annoying... so much so that I sometimes (multiple times in a day, actually) wish to get back to Android 2.3.3, which I had before updating to Samsung's (India) version of Android 4.1.2 for my GS2.
What could be the problem? I rarely ever connect to WiFi (am always connected to GPRS/EDGE, but that has never been a problem in the last 2 years... the phone still used to get nearly a day of battery life) and the brightness is almost always at the lowest. I rarely use Bluetooth, GPS, etc. I don't even use Facebook and WhatsApp anymore, so the screen isn't used to the max. I've turned off all the Location Sharing settings for Google Maps and/or other apps (I use very few apps anyway, but have a bunch of them installed on the phone... none that execute in the background though | also not more than a couple new apps after my OS upgrade).
It's been nearly a week since upgrading the OS on my phone. Last night when I hit the bed at 1.15AM my time, the battery was at 100% (after charging). With no activity whatsoever in the night, the charge had dropped to 88% by 9.35AM. That's less than 8.5 hours of no use and 12% charge gone. That never was the case earlier.
Also, for each minute of using the phone with the screen on, I notice 1-1.5% drop in the battery. That is, to put it very very mildly, PATHETIC!!!
I don't know what to do. Would a "clean rom" install help? If so, what exactly is a "clean rom" install?
Or should I be doing something else?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
P.S.: Please let me know if any other info is needed too. BIG BIG Thanks in advance to anyone reading this
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As reported before, it seems that many official JB ROMS are not as optimized as other national versions and are battery hungry. It was suggested to upgrade to the French release (XEF).
vish91 said:
Battery calibration: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312273
This has to be done every time you do a ROM upgrade or change ROMs.
CM has excellent battery life when compared to other ROMs.
If you are switching over to ICS stay away from version 4.0.4 as it has EMMC brick bug.Any other version would be fine.
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I did this... and unfortunately, it did nothing in my case.
I went to the CM site, but I didn't find any stable build for SGS2. Is there a thread on this site I can refer to for the same?
Also, what's the best way to go about installing a different ROM? I have so many apps, sms messages, pics, mp3 files, 3gp files, etc. Sure I can take a back-up onto my SD card. But won't I lose all the apps once I flash the current Android installation and install a new ROM? Any article or video on YouTube that addresses these points? Please point me in the right direction. I practically don't use my phone even half as much as before and I'm having to charge it twice a day, as against once a day earlier.
Also, the rapid battery loss seems to be causing the phone to heat up a lot if I'm on a call longer than 15 minutes or having the screen on for 2-3 minutes straight.
theultimate1 said:
I did this... and unfortunately, it did nothing in my case.
I went to the CM site, but I didn't find any stable build for SGS2. Is there a thread on this site I can refer to for the same?
Also, what's the best way to go about installing a different ROM? I have so many apps, sms messages, pics, mp3 files, 3gp files, etc. Sure I can take a back-up onto my SD card. But won't I lose all the apps once I flash the current Android installation and install a new ROM? Any article or video on YouTube that addresses these points? Please point me in the right direction. I practically don't use my phone even half as much as before and I'm having to charge it twice a day, as against once a day earlier.
Also, the rapid battery loss seems to be causing the phone to heat up a lot if I'm on a call longer than 15 minutes or having the screen on for 2-3 minutes straight.
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There is no stable version of CM 10 on I9100 because of the some issues. You can flash one of the nightly builds.They might not be necessarily unstable.
No you wont be losing everything when you install a new ROM.You lose once you do a data wipe.It is suggested you wipe everything before you install a new ROM.
With a data wipe you'll lose the following - SMS,contacts,call logs,apps installed and respective data.
What you wont lose - Anything stored in the sdcard partition - Pictures, Videos, Music, Apk files and Anything stored on the Ext SD card.(unless you format them specifically)
Best solution is to use titanium backup app(You need root). This way you can backup your apps and resp. data,wipe data-install ROM,and restore the previous backup on the new ROM.
Tutorial : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1972455
As far as the battery issue is concerned,do a clean ROM install through Odin.
Index of guides : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826497