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Hi, they have addded another wlreless connction at work. They have now heavily restricted what we can acesss.
I have been searching all over and not really getting anywhere. Is there a WEP android hack thingy for our phones. I can acess XDA at work if I can get in on the second connection (managers wifi and of course I work for a living not like them so we get screwed LOL). I can not really run a laptop on the shop floor so that way is out.
Thanks.
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Router keygen and penetrate,both are paid apps,and wifi kill if you want the wifi only for you. Cant post warez.
Penetrate gives you the wireless keys of Thomson, Discus, Infinitum, BBox, DMax, Orange, SpeedTouch,DLink,Eircom,BigPond,O2Wireless routers. if it is one of theese you can rely on penetrate
Sorry it took so long to get back, thanks anyways but those programs do not seem to work on Canadian routers like dlink and stuff. O well
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So here's my problem. My Ps3 has been banned from my parents WiFi (despite my being a straight A student, captain of the golf and soccer teams, and working fulltime in the summers. Any who, I still have access to the WiFi through my phone and was wondering if I could use the droids built in tethering to create a wireless access point for the ps3?
Here's the unique part, I bought the phone myself off of ebay and it has a bad esn (so WiFi only).
Is this possible? If itI matters, I have access to the network settings and can change a couple of less noticeable settings but I can't just unblock the ps3 as that would be noticed and followed up with a password change.
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So here's my problem. My Ps3 has been banned from my parents WiFi (despite my being aapplied straight A student, captain of the golf and soccer teams, and working fulltime in the summers. Any who, I still have access to the WiFi through my phone and was wondering if I could use the droids built in tethering to create a wireless access point for the ps3?
Here's the unique part, I bought the phone myself off of ebay and it has a bad esn (so WiFi only).
Is this possible? If itI matters, I have access to the network settings and can change a couple of less noticeable settings but I can't just unblock the ps3 as that would be noticed and followed up with a password change.
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WIFI Tethering is through 3G only
Really? I've read on a couple sites about there being a mobile AP settings menu under the wireless and networks settings menu of some phones, this isn't present on mine (eclipse 1.3).
What about setting up bluetooth dun on a pc, and then setting up a wireless access point (on the DROID) using the bluetooth in place of 3G?
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Really? I've read on a couple sites about there being a mobile AP settings menu under the wireless and networks settings menu of some phones, this isn't present on mine (eclipse 1.3).
What about setting up bluetooth dun on a pc, and then setting up a wireless access point (on the DROID) using the bluetooth in place of 3G?
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I'm sure that in theory there is a way to EVENTUALLY get it working. But if you're trying to get a PS3 working through tethering and you mention Bluetooth in that, you're getting nowhere fast. Bluetooth is insanely slow.
On a good day, my internet tops out at 1mbps max. Isn't that the top speed of bluetooth 2.1 or is it 512kbps or am I making a complete fool of my self?
If dragonzkiller says it will not work then you can be assured you will not get it to work.
The WiFi Tether app works on 3G only, as it uses your phone's WiFi card to broadcast a signal.
Unfortunately, the broadcast signal is Ad-hoc and the PS3 only connects to infrastructure, so even if you did get it to work on WiFi, the PS3 wouldn't read the Ad-hoc network that your phone was broadcasting.
Alright I concede, oh well. Can't win them all
Thanks for the really speedy responses
Do your parents regularly regulate the router? Since you say you have access to the router's settings, are the ports the PS3 uses blocked or is the PS3's MAC address blocked? If it were those situations, you could change the blocked ports or MAC address by just one number. That way it still appears like the PS3 is being blocked. In the MAC address list, I'd also move the PS3 one to the middle so that it's not the last one on the list. This is based off the simple routers I've had in the past and my own experience growing up with restrictive parentals. If your steps creak, I also reccommend placing your footing away from the middle and close to the wall where the boards are nailed and flush. Also use your hands to better distribute the weight and at least avoid a really loud creak. If they are light sleepers, put your car in neutral and roll it out of the driveway. Don't start your car until you pushed your car down the road a bit. I have a lot more advice on the subject if you want. Just don't ask me what to do when your gf pinned you down in her foyeur at 2am and your phone butt dials your evil sister that will tell mom. There's no answer for that.
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Do your parents regularly regulate the router? Since you say you have access to the router's settings, are the ports the PS3 uses blocked or is the PS3's MAC address blocked? If it were those situations, you could change the blocked ports or MAC address by just one number. That way it still appears like the PS3 is being blocked. In the MAC address list, I'd also move the PS3 one to the middle so that it's not the last one on the list. This is based off the simple routers I've had in the past and my own experience growing up with restrictive parentals. If your steps creak, I also reccommend placing your footing away from the middle and close to the wall where the boards are nailed and flush. Also use your hands to better distribute the weight and at least avoid a really loud creak. If they are light sleepers, put your car in neutral and roll it out of the driveway. Don't start your car until you pushed your car down the road a bit. I have a lot more advice on the subject if you want. Just don't ask me what to do when your gf pinned you down in her foyeur at 2am and your phone butt dials your evil sister that will tell mom. There's no answer for that.
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Hehehe That is all
Yeah, I considered that. Might do it if I get desperate after midterms end this week.
The stairway thing I've known for a while, but the car ones a good suggestion, especially since my car has a dying catalytic converterand makes more noise than a heavy metal band.
The part about the gf had to suck for you, but luckily I've got enough dirt on my siblings that I don't have to worry (too much)
One of my favorites is to wait until everyones asleep and then leave a note on the counter saying I had to go to school early to work on ____ if you end up not being able to get back before they wake up this covers you and if you get back before they wake up you can just destroy the note.
Use PC as AP
Not sure if this is still a problem for you, but do you have a PC connected to the internet? If so, you can probably set up the PC as a wifi access point. This is really easy to do in Windows 7, and even easier in Linux (if you know what you're doing). There is also a program called Connectify that you can install to do this on Windows, but if you have Win 7, then all you need to do is run a few simple commands at the cmd prompt to set up your PC as a wifi AP.
quit soccer and golf and take up basketball, only then will your parents see you are truly ready for their wifi waves
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If dragonzkiller says it will not work then you can be assured you will not get it to work.
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Yea he's kind of a big deal around here lol
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HitMyKush said:
quit soccer and golf and take up basketball, only then will your parents see you are truly ready for their wifi waves
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Hockey is where it's at.
I am a fan of your username.
More to the point, though, is that I don't believe this to be possible. Tethering is designed to be an access point through 3G/4G.
It would be painfully slow anyway. With 40Mb/s broadband you would struggle to get 1Mb/s if you routed it through your phone.
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Hockey is where it's at.
I am a fan of your username.
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Yes hockey is where its at
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No, No, No. Quit all sports and pick up a guitar. Music makes people happy. And chicks like guys who can play the guitar.
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No, No, No. Quit all sports and pick up a guitar. Music makes people happy. And chicks like guys who can play the guitar.
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I prefer to play the violin personally...but I'm self taught and not all that good but I tell you it is an awesome feeling when you can make a violin sing in only the way a violin can
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I prefer to play the violin personally...but I'm self taught and not all that good but I tell you it is an awesome feeling when you can make a violin sing in only the way a violin can
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I've always wanted to try out a violin. Never knew anyone with one to play though. Im self taught as well. Guitar, bass, drums and a little bit of piano. I love music
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I've always wanted to try out a violin. Never knew anyone with one to play though. Im self taught as well. Guitar, bass, drums and a little bit of piano. I love music
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The toughest part about the violin for me was finger position....notes are not too close together in the first position but in the third they are right on top of each other, but if you are just slightly off in either position the note is just sour and not right...but when you're on absolutely beautiful...also bow tension pressure etc is tough to get used to....you can get a cheap one for around 120-150 but if you love music you know how cheap instruments can be and sound
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I'd like to keep my Flyer out in my truck as a perm GPS kinda thing. It gets kinda cold up in NY, so I'm concerned on how cold weather tolerant this thing is. The general rule is not to keep electronics outside when its cold, but come on... have you seen newer cars!! I left my Garmin outside 365/year without issue too.
I'd like to know fact from fiction on this. Maybe Myth Busters did something on it, lol.
If the worst thing to happen to my Flyer is a sluggish screen until it warms up, I'd like to keep it in the truck/car most of the time.
i literally never take my first gen ipod video from 2005 out of my trucks glovebox...in NJ, it gets as cold as single digits in the winter, and hits triple in the summer, and it's always in there, and somehow STILL works..and that's a moving hard drive too lol..i'd think as long as it doesn't move from cold to hot temps really quickly, no condensation should form or anything
Lion batteries tolerate cold better than heat but, I would imagine that there is still a potential for damage to occur.
I doubt the other components would be affected much.. but, just keep in mind there is a chance it will be on life support to actually run the rest of it's life.
If I may also go ahead and point this out.. You can get a Garmin with lifetime updates for about 250$ that doesn't require a cellular data connection and would be more reliable for what your buying it for..
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Lion batteries tolerate cold better than heat but, I would imagine that there is still a potential for damage to occur.
I doubt the other components would be affected much.. but, just keep in mind there is a chance it will be on life support to actually run the rest of it's life.
If I may also go ahead and point this out.. You can get a Garmin with lifetime updates for about 250$ that doesn't require a cellular data connection and would be more reliable for what your buying it for..
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I got the Flyer at BestBuy for $99 a few months ago when they messed up the price. I dont have a need for it in the house because I have a GT10.1. I was close to CraigsListing it for $175, but decided to buy the Flyer car dock and use it as device to leave in the truck for GPS and such.
I dont really want another Garmin if the Flyer can work (w/tethering).
While Li ion batteries tolerate cold temperatures better than some other types, they still drain much more quickly in freezing temperatures. If you are leaving your Flyer in screen-off mode (and not powering it down), then you should be careful its not draining until shutoff in cold temps. Full power cycles are not good for Li ion batteries long term. Its also possible that draining the battery until the device shuts off, will render the battery unable to take a charge. (doesn't happen often, but does happen with Android devices).
That said, I completely understand your feeling about wanting to use an Android device instead of a Garmin for car navigation. I haven't used the "latest" Garmins. But the one I have (couple years old) has a crappy unresponsive touch screen, low resolution, and search function is nothing compared to Google.
The only advantage to a Garmin, is that you don't need a data connection. But of course, there are ways around that with Android also, either downloading Google Map sections, or with 3rd party software.
This doesn't answer your question, but I'll just throw this out there:
I've had the Flyer since it's release date at Best Buy. I bought it with full intentions of leaving it in my truck as a GPS/Media Player/Browser.
I built a console for it that goes between my jump seat and dash (the unit basically sits right under my stereo) and I have left it there plugged into a usb charger and line in on my stereo since the day I bought it (I can easily remove it and have on occasion for a few hours at a time.
I live in West Virginia so it probably doesn't get quite as cold as it does in NY but it can get down below zero at night. We have had a pretty mild winter here but that being said - I have never had a single problem out of it. Neither heat nor cold has seemed to have any affect on it whatsoever.
This is not to say that it couldn't and I've wondered the same as you many times... but just as someone who is doing exactly what you plan to do... I have never had a problem with it.
Hope this helps.
Just an FYI regarding the need for a cellular or wifi signal to use the Flyer or View as a dedicated GPS. With the use of a standalone navigation app such as CoPilot Live (no affiliation) or similar, which include built-in maps, your GPS-enabled unit uses only the internal GPS antenna to set a fix, and the on-board maps to get you around. No data connection is required to constantly update maps, as is the case with Google Maps, which is an 'assisted GPS' (aGPS) program.
Once your nav app is loaded, conserve batt power by activating 'airplane mode,' then under 'Location' enable the 'use GPS satellites' function. Make sure your Flyer is securely mounted on windshield or dashboard with a reasonable view of the sky (that's where the satellites are). You'll have no problems getting around in remote areas not served by Sprint et al. Over the past few years we have used my Evo 4g, Evo 3D and Evo View to get around in Europe in just this manner (no phone calls though, these are not international phones).
Regarding cold temperatures, I would remove the device from your vehicle if sub-zero F readings are expected.
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No data connection is required to constantly update maps, as is the case with Google Maps, which is an 'assisted GPS' (aGPS) program.
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That is not what assisted GPS (aGPS) means. aGPS uses cell tower triangulation to speed up GPS location. Virtually any usage of the phone's GPS involves aGPS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
Also, as I've mentioned previously, Google Maps has the ability to download maps so you can use Maps and Navigation online. You just have to download the maps one area at a time.
I think we're saying the same thing. The Flyer/View will perform GPS (vs. aGPS) duties just fine without tower triangulation (in airplane mode) if your program has built-in maps. No tethering required.
The map caching is in Google Labs, right? I played with that while waiting at an appointment. I tried a Nav to home with it and Nav just spun. I only tried once though. I didn't get a "data connection required" so i know it knew the cached data was there.
I will think about Copilot if GNav doesn't cut it.
I like this thread, lots of good comments!
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I think we're saying the same thing. The Flyer/View will perform GPS (vs. aGPS) duties just fine without tower triangulation (in airplane mode) if your program has built-in maps. No tethering required.
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No, we are not saying the same thing at all. You were saying that Google Maps can't be used without a data connection, since its an "aGPS program", and you seemed to be stating that aGPS had something to do with updating the maps (which it does not). Google Maps is fully functional without a data connection as I stated above.
Also, pretty much any current Android device is going to use aGPS when possible to shorten GPS lock time, regardless of what navigation app you are using (I hate when people call nav software "GPS", as GPS just determines lat/long and elevation and nothing more).
And now you are mis-using the term "tethering". A data connection is not tethering. Tethering is when you share a cell data connection with another device. For instance, tethering a phone to a laptop, means your laptop can use the data connection on your phone.
You really need to get your terms right.
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The map caching is in Google Labs, right?
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Yeah, that's right. I haven't played around with the feature much myself. But a buddy of mine recently used it during a trip to Europe, so he can navigate the cities on foot without pricey data roaming fees. He said it worked wonderfully.
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And now you are mis-using the term "tethering". A data connection is not tethering. Tethering is when you share a cell data connection with another device. For instance, tethering a phone to a laptop, means your laptop can use the data connection on your phone.
You really need to get your terms right.
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Thanks for the suggestion, Captain. I am attempting to help the OP, who used the term 'tethering,' which is unecessary, as is a data connection, if you have maps on your device:
kenyu73 said:
I dont really want another Garmin if the Flyer can work (w/tethering).
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My comments/methodologies are based upon actual travel experiences with these devices, which I'm sharing with the OP. Why do you feel the need to challenge me? Is this an initiation ritual for a new poster?
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Thanks for the suggestion, Captain. I am attempting to help the OP, who used the term 'tethering,' which is unecessary, as is a data connection, if you have maps on your device:
My comments/methodologies are based upon actual travel experiences with these devices, which I'm sharing with the OP. Why do you feel the need to challenge me? Is this an initiation ritual for a new poster?
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Its all good gents. I just wanted to know if the Flyer was ok out in the cold.
Whether or not I'll use GNav or purchase something like Copilot is another story. I appreciated the comments from everyone.
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I dont really want another Garmin if the Flyer can work (w/tethering).
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My comments/methodologies are based upon actual travel experiences with these devices, which I'm sharing with the OP. Why do you feel the need to challenge me? Is this an initiation ritual for a new poster?
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The person your last response is directed at, and the OP are the same person.
No, I'm not trying to pick on you. But if you post something that is incorrect, people here are going to call it out. Or people here may just want to offer up a different opinion. Which brings me to the following.
I completely sympathize with the OP's desire to not want another Garmin navigation unit. I've found them to be crap. Overpriced for what they can do, not well made, and completely unreliable. I paid $399 for a flagship Nuvi unit, and it broke down a year after I bought it. Luckily, it was still on warranty, and they fixed it. But then the power cable failed soon after (out of warranty). Good thing I found a replacement on eBay for less than $10, because Garmin wants to charge you $30 (for something that will probably fail again in a year or so anyway). Both failures happened while I was traveling, and luckily I had my smartphone and Google Maps as backup.
Meanwhile, I have 3 HTC smartphones, and one tablet, from as far back as 4 years, still running fine as the day they were bought (aside from a few cosmetic blemishes from normal wear and tear). As far as I'm concerned, you are better off using a smartphone or tablet as navigation, with a 3rd party nav app with pre-loaded apps, if losing data connection is a concern.
Having a dedicated nav unit is probably a dying business model. Aside from providing software for smartphones, I don't see much of Garmin's business being around in a few years.
This is true, the last one I purchased was in 2003; it's unlikely that I'll ever purchase a dedicated unit again. The Flyer/View's 7-inch screen and robust build make for an excellent navigation device.
January 13, 2014
Mr. Gregory Lee
President and CEO
Samsung Electronics North America
Samsung Telecommunications America
85 Challenger Road
Ridgefield Park, NJ. 07660
Dear Mr. Lee:
You are surely aware by now of the many WIFI and instability problems reported on the web regarding the Samsung Galaxy S and Note Smartphones. These appear to be independent of carrier, but may be related to Android 4.3.
I myself have spent about 20 hours tracing WIFI instability problems on my Verizon Note 3 including all the cookbook suggestions on the web, as well as installation of a new router and modem. None worked for me until I turned off the Bluetooth function – a temporary solution at best.
As an electrical engineer I understand the complexities of hardware and software interactions, as well as the potential interactions of RF devices sharing the 2.4 GHz band. However, the problems with your devices are now likely consuming tens of thousands of user plus customer service hours, on what may be futile trails. This wasted time and frustration could be avoided.
I think the honorable thing to do would be for Samsung to broadly acknowledge that they are having these problems, announce that they have a top team working on it, forecast a time frame when they may have a repair, and suggest temporary fixes for those who can’t wait and need them immediately. For many people this would suffice, since your strong reputation would be enough to give them confidence that help is on the way. In effect, this makes Samsung a hero rather than a villain.
Unless you do this, you will face a growing backlash from increasingly frustrated users who feel their time is being wasted by a company that wants to hide the issue.
Sincerely,
Steven M. Baer MSEE
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January 13, 2014
Mr. Gregory Lee
President and CEO
Samsung Electronics North America
Samsung Telecommunications America
85 Challenger Road
Ridgefield Park, NJ. 07660
Dear Mr. Lee:
You are surely aware by now of the many WIFI and instability problems reported on the web regarding the Samsung Galaxy S and Note Smartphones. These appear to be independent of carrier, but may be related to Android 4.3.
I myself have spent about 20 hours tracing WIFI instability problems on my Verizon Note 3 including all the cookbook suggestions on the web, as well as installation of a new router and modem. None worked for me until I turned off the Bluetooth function – a temporary solution at best.
As an electrical engineer I understand the complexities of hardware and software interactions, as well as the potential interactions of RF devices sharing the 2.4 GHz band. However, the problems with your devices are now likely consuming tens of thousands of user plus customer service hours, on what may be futile trails. This wasted time and frustration could be avoided.
I think the honorable thing to do would be for Samsung to broadly acknowledge that they are having these problems, announce that they have a top team working on it, forecast a time frame when they may have a repair, and suggest temporary fixes for those who can’t wait and need them immediately. For many people this would suffice, since your strong reputation would be enough to give them confidence that help is on the way. In effect, this makes Samsung a hero rather than a villain.
Unless you do this, you will face a growing backlash from increasingly frustrated users who feel their time is being wasted by a company that wants to hide the issue.
Sincerely,
Steven M. Baer MSEE
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Dear Mr. Baer:
Sounds good buddy, keep it to your blog posts though.
Sincerely,
Mr. Cabra
getting this off the top of my head but I think you want to take you letter and send them out executive email carpet bombing where u email all the head honchos at that monster company samsung
United states division will probably get you something if you contact a director or something
who knows
would be interesting if everyone who signed the petition emailed n' carpet bombed em
can you imagine their inboxes getting flooded
I'D LOVE IT
After fixing my own and helping others in threads with WiFi instability issues, a solid fix is to adjust the channel of the frequency within your router settings to match your device/phone/laptop
Also if you go barely out of range/back in/flutter the WiFi connection you will get this message
Thanks for sending a letter to Samsung for us though, not many ppl put in the effort
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After fixing my own and helping others in threads with WiFi instability issues, a solid fix is to adjust the channel of the frequency within your router settings to match your device/phone/laptop
Also if you go barely out of range/back in/flutter the WiFi connection you will get this message
Thanks for sending a letter to Samsung for us though, not many ppl put in the effort
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Have you got a how to thread about this? I know how to change channels on router but how do I know which match the note 3?
Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
recDNA said:
Have you got a how to thread about this? I know how to change channels on router but how do I know which match the note 3?
Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
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Every router we'll be different so the web console interface will be unique per router model.
You want to login to your router via Google chrome or IE, and navigate to something along the lines of Wi-Fi channel frequency.
There should be a range from 1-11 "channels" and you want to try one at a time. Yours could be different than mine depending on interference around you.
I hope this kinda makes sense. This also applies to general networking if your laptop Wi-Fi signal is weak sauce
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Thanks. I'm aware of the process. I thought there might be 1 or 2 specific channels that work best with Note 3. Through trial and error I do have a good connection. I just wondered if there was a better method than I used because it took quite a while.
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What kind of routers are people using when they get this message? I've only gotten it once since having the phone on some random wifi network and the signal was dropping in and out
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Thanks. I'm aware of the process. I thought there might be 1 or 2 specific channels that work best with Note 3. Through trial and error I do have a good connection. I just wondered if there was a better method than I used because it took quite a while.
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There should be a range from 1-11 "channels" and you want to try one at a time. Yours could be different than mine depending on interference around you.
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Wifi Analyzer will look at all the wifi networks in earshot of your phone and tell you what channel they're on. You just pick one with the least chance of bumping into another network. No try and see method... just do it once. Test from the spot you're having the most trouble, typically the farthest spot from your router that you'll be using the wifi. (I tried to post direct link to the app in Google Play, but I'm too new of a user and the forum wouldn't let me)
recDNA you are not alone, I too thought lmike6453's post made it sound like he had some secret info about the Note 3 working best on a certain channel or something like that. No worries!
Thanks for this. Hope to see the response. Anyone ever buy a Samsung device from Asia, etc. and try to connect to your USA home Wi-Fi, only to find out your device doesn't recognize the region code? Yeah, lame. Almost as lame as releasing the international note 3 region locked, and LTE version not compatible with AT&T LTE bands. OK, I will stop veering off topic, here. Please post any response to this great letter.
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What kind of routers are people using when they get this message? I've only gotten it once since having the phone on some random wifi network and the signal was dropping in and out
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I've never had the message pop-up and I've had my Note 3 since the release day.
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Wifi Analyzer will look at all the wifi networks in earshot of your phone and tell you what channel they're on. You just pick one with the least chance of bumping into another network. No try and see method... just do it once. Test from the spot you're having the most trouble, typically the farthest spot from your router that you'll be using the wifi. (I tried to post direct link to the app in Google Play, but I'm too new of a user and the forum wouldn't let me)
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Here's the play store app link for the Wifi Analyzer app (farproc).
Doing an occupied channel assessment like this is definitely a good practice for avoiding interference from other WiFi APs; but keep in mind that due to channel overlap a three-channel separation is best. Because of the pervasiveness of WiFi, it may be impossible to find such a "quiet channel" arrangements, though. In such cases though it is useful to at least avoid the same channels that the strongest nearby APs are using. A lot of consumer WiFi routers use default channels assignments of 3, 6, or 9 (so that folks that leave their APs with default settings always end up 3 channels apart from other "defaulters"... two-thirds of the time ). That suggests that if you are in an area with lots of WiFi (maybe an apartment building or something) try to get 2 channels away (1, 4 or 5, 7 or 8, 11) - at least the interference will be diminished a little bit.
There is one big problem with WiFi scanners though - they don't give a single clue about RF interference by non-WiFi devices in the ISM band(s). Microwave ovens, portable phones, baby monitors, bluetooth devices, yada yada yada. Perhaps there is a way to infer from re-transmission statistics whether or not one channel is better than another, but I'm not sure if such apps even exist, and due to the burst-like nature of many forms of interference (who runs their Microwave oven all day long?), you might have to observe a lot of data to figure something like that out.
Some of the statistics in this Cisco article ("Top 20 Myths of WiFi Interference") are rather startling; worth a look.
@steve181
Good luck getting any response from Samsung or Verizon. Not because I'm a cynic or anything, but because WiFi operates in a uncontrolled, free-for-all radio space which is basically a giant experiment started by the FCC. The fact that it operates at all - or even most of the time - is hardly some kind of guarantee that it will work in all scenarios.
They (Samsung/Verizon) are not going to come over to your house to find out what is wrong.
And the fact that you can find isolated reports of problems scattered across the internet is not a reliable metric of the incidence rate of problems. That's an "availability bias" problem with the data you have to work with. People with trouble go looking for solutions and people that don't have problems... don't. There might be widespread problems or only rare ones - neither you nor I have the data to support either of those hypotheses with any credibility, though.
The 802.11 protocols are extremely complicated and sophisticated - and complex, sophisticated protocols are good breeding grounds for interop problems (software bugs due to differences in protocol interpretation). It takes at least two to tango (the STA and the AP), and a bug could be on either side. Throw in uncontrolled interference from other random electronic devices, and who is to say that "this is Vendor A's fault" without any due diligence. ("Well, my other devices don't do this" is hardly proof of much - it's just a suspicion or hypothesis at best)
Don't like the results you are getting? Get a different phone, router, or neighborhood. Or fiddle with some settings on them until they work. Yeah it sucks and is a huge drain of time; but practically speaking those are the only alternatives when you run into a WiFi problem.
I once encountered an IT infrastructure bug that was a three-vendor bug: it only occurred with a specific client OS, a specific AntiVirus software release, and a specific vendor's multi-protocol (SMB/NFS) file server. Imagine what that was like trying to get any of the involved vendors to engage. Every WiFi issue has exactly the same 3-fold problem resolution tree: is the problem (a) the STA, (b) the AP, or (c) uncontrolled crap in the area?
good luck
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Wifi Analyzer will look at all the wifi networks in earshot of your phone and tell you what channel they're on. You just pick one with the least chance of bumping into another network. No try and see method... just do it once. Test from the spot you're having the most trouble, typically the farthest spot from your router that you'll be using the wifi. (I tried to post direct link to the app in Google Play, but I'm too new of a user and the forum wouldn't let me)
recDNA you are not alone, I too thought lmike6453's post made it sound like he had some secret info about the Note 3 working best on a certain channel or something like that. No worries!
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Funny, I had wifi analyzer but there was no congestion on any channel so I just used trial and error. I have very secure and fast wifi now. I do think I have an excellent router though. Fairly new with lots of options.
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Changing router settings is not okay... As a temporary fix, maybe. But to act like it's not a problem with the phone because you were able to change router channels, or have the latest greatest router, misses the point completely. If everything else you have has no issues with wifi connectivity to your router, why should you have to change anything at all to get the Note 3 to have a stable connection? Not everyone is a computer whiz or has the time to mess with all that. Wifi is a basic function of a phone that should work out of the box. Just my 2 cents. Not trying to start a debate.
toddnbrown said:
Changing router settings is not okay... As a temporary fix, maybe. But to act like it's not a problem with the phone because you were able to change router channels, or have the latest greatest router, misses the point completely. If everything else you have has no issues with wifi connectivity to your router, why should you have to change anything at all to get the Note 3 to have a stable connection? Not everyone is a computer whiz or has the time to mess with all that. Wifi is a basic function of a phone that should work out of the box. Just my 2 cents. Not trying to start a debate.
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This makes me wonder whether indeed I should get a Dev edition Note 3... until this is resolved...
Another reason this is unacceptable is many people do not have access to router settings in corporate environments. This should be embarrassing to Samsung. Imagine their reputation when in a meeting someone says oh sorry, I can't connect to WiFi I have a crappy Samsung. Then another guy says oh, that sucks. I have an iPhone it works just fine. Hm. They need to get their crap straight on this and not ignore it like Apple and go all "you're holding it wrong" on us. This thread should be enough for the engineering team to start from and fix this issue permanently.
So do you guys notice a difference in performance or is it just words telling you something is wrong while it's working fine? What if Samsung is the only one trying to help and others just mute the warnings
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I thought I was going crazy when I couldn't get my vzw retail note 3 to play nice with my chromecast. HTC one, no problem. IPhones 5 and 5s, no problem. Nexus 7 (2013), iPad air, no problem. I too have wondered in frustration how it could be possible that a flagship device from a company as high profile as Samsung (only the #1 android device maker in the world) could put out products with such major problems. I'd say that inability to maintain a stable WiFi connection is a pretty significant shortcoming in a device that is essentially a vehicle to access the internet. It's things like this that allow fanboys to say "apple stuff just works." Because it does. Apple has trained to consumers to expect that things will 'just work'. And why shouldn't they?
And while you're at it Samsung, fix the audio stuttering with the screen off. Jeez!
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I thought I was going crazy when I couldn't get my vzw retail note 3 to play nice with my chromecast. HTC one, no problem. IPhones 5 and 5s, no problem. Nexus 7 (2013), iPad air, no problem. I too have wondered in frustration how it could be possible that a flagship device from a company as high profile as Samsung (only the #1 android device maker in the world) could put out products with such major problems. I'd say that inability to maintain a stable WiFi connection is a pretty significant shortcoming in a device that is essentially a vehicle to access the internet. It's things like this that allow fanboys to say "apple stuff just works." Because it does. Apple has trained to consumers to expect that things will 'just work'. And why shouldn't they?
And while you're at it Samsung, fix the audio stuttering with the screen off. Jeez!
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Seriously my galaxy note one was hella stable compared to this locked down piece of garbage
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throw in about no stock files for developer edition too please lol
toddnbrown said:
Changing router settings is not okay... As a temporary fix, maybe. But to act like it's not a problem with the phone because you were able to change router channels, or have the latest greatest router, misses the point completely. If everything else you have has no issues with wifi connectivity to your router, why should you have to change anything at all to get the Note 3 to have a stable connection? Not everyone is a computer whiz or has the time to mess with all that. Wifi is a basic function of a phone that should work out of the box. Just my 2 cents. Not trying to start a debate.
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macdroid01 said:
This makes me wonder whether indeed I should get a Dev edition Note 3... until this is resolved...
Another reason this is unacceptable is many people do not have access to router settings in corporate environments. This should be embarrassing to Samsung. Imagine their reputation when in a meeting someone says oh sorry, I can't connect to WiFi I have a crappy Samsung. Then another guy says oh, that sucks. I have an iPhone it works just fine. Hm. They need to get their crap straight on this and not ignore it like Apple and go all "you're holding it wrong" on us. This thread should be enough for the engineering team to start from and fix this issue permanently.
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I agree that the technology should be automated in the sense of pairing frequencies after scanning for the best one. Until then, all ya can do is be grateful that wireless even exists compared to a decade ago's technology, it's still in overall infancy stage.
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So do you guys notice a difference in performance or is it just words telling you something is wrong while it's working fine? What if Samsung is the only one trying to help and others just mute the warnings
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It's just a notification that remains stickied in the notification drawer if at ANY point in your connection it is recognized as unstable. Really, the whole "issue" is blown out of proportion to me since it works as normal and you wouldn't know of any difference if it just didn't report anything like other Android phones.
I have a rooted c6833, running a GPE port here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2800414
I have also attached 3 screenshots that should show pretty clearly what I'm talking about, so you may not need to read this at all.
Things work great, but I've noticed an oddity surrounding wifi, and while it doesn't affect my actual wifi connection at all, it's just strange. I live in a large apartment building and there are many networks cluttering the airwaves. Funny thing is, several of these networks "follow" me when I leave.
Example: Let's say a network named "Network 1" with a MAC address of Fb:89:bt:12:3r:56 appears when I am at home. It's not my network and I have never attempted to connect to it either. When I go to school, more than 30 miles away, I still see the network, but now it has a MAC address that looks like 00:00:00:00:00. I use Wifi Analyzer to get this information, but the network will show in both that program and under wifi settings in Android.
All of the networks that "follow" me show "Xerox" as the wireless chip when they have a zeroed out MAC, but something else when they show an actual MAC address. The false wifi networks never show any change in signal, while the true ones back at home do.
I'm just curious as to why this occurs and if anybody else has ever seen this. I feel pretty at home with networking, but this stumps me. My only guess is some kind of issue with the rom or kernel, but that's a shot in the dark. Ever seen this? I'll laugh if its really simple.
wifi be like
anyways...I dunno. I have never seen this before
I truly appreciate the meme.
Its a real head scratcher, but I happen to have another of the same phone and updated it to the same rom last night and now it does it too. I think the rom/kernel is where to look. Thanks for looking.
Hmm... That's strange.. (I have no idea what's going on with your WiFi).
Not sure if there's any relation but check this thread out Click Here.