Have a One X+ arriving tomorrow. First Android phone. Have general knowledge about Custom ROMs but couple questions regarding the options now and future for this device.
Comes with Android 4.1 and Sense 4.5. Obviously like many Power Users, I would love to have Android 4.2 be realize it was just released to AOSP a couple days ago.
Will any ROM for One X work with One X+ since they are essentially the same device, just faster clock speed and bigger battery?
Is there a Cleanrom with Android 4.1 and Sense 4.5? And if there is, or will be, are the benefits significant enough to make it worth installing? I'm not doing gaming or anything. So performance isn't a big concern. Stability and battery life are really my main concerns.
Based on past experience, how long probably until there is a Jelly Bean 4.2 stable ROM for this device?
jazee said:
Have a One X+ arriving tomorrow. First Android phone. Have general knowledge about Custom ROMs but couple questions regarding the options now and future for this device.
Comes with Android 4.1 and Sense 4.5. Obviously like many Power Users, I would love to have Android 4.2 be realize it was just released to AOSP a couple days ago.
Will any ROM for One X work with One X+ since they are essentially the same device, just faster clock speed and bigger battery?
No, the HOX+ has a different kernal so will need to be a HOX+ specific device. Stay tuned as if you have an ATT USA version you might need a specific rom for this carrier too, we dont' know yet.
Is there a Cleanrom with Android 4.1 and Sense 4.5? And if there is, or will be, are the benefits significant enough to make it worth installing? I'm not doing gaming or anything. So performance isn't a big concern. Stability and battery life are really my main concerns.
It is Sense 4+, not sure where you read 4.5? Yes there are custom roms here, have you not checked the sub-forum???
Based on past experience, how long probably until there is a Jelly Bean 4.2 stable ROM for this device?
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Probably a few weeks, maybe a month, who knows since you can't even root your device yet if your on ATT USA??? Patience my friend, patience and in the mean time enjoy your device out of the box as it already comes amazing. By the time you have the device fully figured out i'm sure a Root and 4.2 Clean Rom will be available by then. Don't get ahead of yourself bud
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Probably a few weeks, maybe a month, who knows since you can't even root your device yet if your on ATT USA??? Patience my friend, patience and in the mean time enjoy your device out of the box as it already comes amazing. By the time you have the device fully figured out i'm sure a Root and 4.2 Clean Rom will be available by then. Don't get ahead of yourself bud
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I just ordered one as well. Is there anyone currently working on either a MIUI Rom or a vanilla Android 4.2 rom for this device? I'd gladly donate if someone did.
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Ok, please don't blast me, and I am not starting this thread to start a fight. I just really want some advice. I love the rezound, and I would like to get it over the Gnex as I don't like a lot of things about the Nex. However, I had the TB, and now the Bionic and I just don't want to be waiting on a never ending cycle to get to the lastest software(IE 4.0, 5.0 etc.) The reason I say this, is I know like with the TB it seems like the Devs have to build a whole new RIL in order to get the software to work with the hardware(at least in the GB and now the ICS update for the TB) and I don't want to have to wait for the same thing when JB comes out at the end of the year, but I also don't want to upgrade again in 6-9 months. I hope I have made my dilemma clear. I would like to know if you, as rezound owners, think this may happen, as I may just jump (regretfully) to the Gnex.
Also, Let me make this clear, I am in NO WAY degrading the Devs work here or else where, I am just impatient. And don't want to wait for many months for fully working roms that may or may not come. But there are a few main things I REALLY like on ICS, but the current build are just so buggy on my current devices that it's not worth using as a DD. Please don't think this is me fussing, or anything of the sort, it's just I'm looking for advice. Thanks.
The current ICS builds are pretty good. The devs did a great job with them.
As to your question about JB, only time will tell. I don't think that anyone has an answer to that.
I've had both BAMF's and Scott's ROMs on my Rezound, they are both very stable. The only thing HTC has said about the update regarding the Rezound is that it'll come later this year. It is not listed in the first batch of phones.
"According to HTC, we can expect to see the updates begin to roll out by the end of March for the original Sensation, Sensation 4G, Sensation XE, followed shortly there after by the Sensation XL. The following batch of devices will include the Rezound and Incredible S, but there is no time frame listed for that device other than, “later this year."
-Quoted from droid-life.com
I don't mean as much for ics as it appears to be currently working well on the device. I'm not shy about flashing. I'm just worried that the next version jelly bean may miss the device and it will be left to the devs to get it up and running. But that's been even harder on them recently, Atleast with my experience with the tbolt, as they have to built the Ril from the ground up, or so I understand. So I don't want to be stuck on current software. I'm not saying it will happen, I just want advice on whether I should take the chance with the rezound. I do really like the device.
It was my understanding that Jelly Bean was more like a Honeycomb release...
The operating system's next version jelly bean will be optimized for tablets
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Oh, I hadn't seen that. Thanks for the heads up.
Hello All,
I want to start off with a very big thank you to everyone in this community, everyone here has been very helpful to someone who is a general noob to HTC-Android devices (last HTC I owned was a TPII).
With that out of the way, I've had my Rezound for about a week and I love this phone. It feels great in the hand, has a gorgeous screen that is second to none, and an amazing camera that I'm happy to walk around with in case I need to grab a quick picture of something. Truly, this is a top notch device.
The problem I'm having is that after a week of owning this phone, I'm ready to leave stock. I was settled on CleanROM ICS for the time being until CM9 came out, but then I did some reading looking into CM9 which brought up a few questions.
1) What is S-Off and why is it important? Coming from a Droid X, I thought the important thing was an unlocked Bootloader. Why are other HTC Phones "S-Offed" and this one isn't? How does this affect ROM Development? Does this hurt the chances of CM9 making it to the Rezond (very hard to tell because they have not announced CM9 device support other than the G-Nex)?
2) What is the RIL and why is it important? This seems to be a problem amongst developers.
The main reason I bought this phone over the G-Nex was the SD-Card slot, the camera, and the screen. If development of an AOSP or AOKP is going to be lackluster because of the issues above, I still have one week to return the device and go back to my X for the time being. I will admit, I'm loving 4G, but I'm going to have this device for 2 years; I need to make sure I can get as much as I can out of this device.
Thank you as always for your answers!
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1) What is S-Off and why is it important? Coming from a Droid X, I thought the important thing was an unlocked Bootloader. Why are other HTC Phones "S-Offed" and this one isn't? How does this affect ROM Development? Does this hurt the chances of CM9 making it to the Rezond (very hard to tell because they have not announced CM9 device support other than the G-Nex)?
2) What is the RIL and why is it important? This seems to be a problem amongst developers.
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The 2 questions you have are very related. What it means, from what I understand, is custom radio developments. Also referring to your first question and your concern, that's what we are waiting on. To not rely on a leak for custom roms and to get an official OTA to base the roms off of, which refers back to your 2nd question if this device can't get s-off capability. We already have a way to flash custom kernels & roms, so at this time, s-off would just add the functionality of creating a custom radio.
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The 2 questions you have are very related. What it means, from what I understand, is custom radio developments. Also referring to your first question and your concern, that's what we are waiting on. To not rely on a leak for custom roms and to get an official OTA to base the roms off of, which refers back to your 2nd question if this device can't get s-off capability. We already have a way to flash custom kernels & roms, so at this time, s-off would just add the functionality of creating a custom radio.
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So what makes custom radios important?
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So what makes custom radios important?
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it's more of nodding radios and not creating them. the only advantage is possibly better signal(depending on location,prl and tower) which leads to better voice quality but since this is high end as it is it might not even make a better difference even with possible data speed increases.
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it's more of nodding radios and not creating them. the only advantage is possibly better signal(depending on location,prl and tower) which leads to better voice quality but since this is high end as it is it might not even make a better difference even with possible data speed increases.
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It sounds to me like an excuse not to develop on this device if this is really something stopping us from a solid AOSP or AOKP build.
I'm really torn. I want a Sense-less ICS ROM, but I really love this phone. I have a week left before I can return it. I suppose worst case I could steal my wife's upgrade in May and give her this phone if we don't see development start picking up.
Unrelated, I'm starting to think this device will never see a solid 5.0 build. CM9 isn't even out of beta and official device support is still showing CM7 devices.
I guess it's a tough decision. At least my wife is willing to take this phone.
The radio isn't the issue. The RIL in android is. I don't know of any android devices that have needed modded radios in order to get AOSP working. There is a working build of MIUI with 4G working... but it seems like the dev wants to get it perfect before he releases it. Once that is done we should be able to get CM9.
But by all means though, if you don't like sense, get a nexus. It is possible nothing will ever be released though so don't hinge your plans on it.
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The radio isn't the issue. The RIL in android is. I don't know of any android devices that have needed modded radios in order to get AOSP working. There is a working build of MIUI with 4G working... but it seems like the dev wants to get it perfect before he releases it. Once that is done we should be able to get CM9.
But by all means though, if you don't like sense, get a nexus. It is possible nothing will ever be released though so don't hinge your plans on it.
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So con247- Do you think there is a chance that an ASOP ril will never be developed?
I guess my question is- how is the rezound>RIL>sense different than rezound>RIL>ASOP? If that makes sense?
It is possible it won't ever happen, but I have 99% faith it will be completed soonish.
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It sounds to me like an excuse not to develop on this device if this is really something stopping us from a solid AOSP or AOKP build.
I'm really torn. I want a Sense-less ICS ROM, but I really love this phone. I have a week left before I can return it. I suppose worst case I could steal my wife's upgrade in May and give her this phone if we don't see development start picking up.
Unrelated, I'm starting to think this device will never see a solid 5.0 build. CM9 isn't even out of beta and official device support is still showing CM7 devices.
I guess it's a tough decision. At least my wife is willing to take this phone.
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Seems like an odd thing to buy a phone on the expectation of AOSP. I'm pretty sure we will see a solid AOSP ROM before long though. Not sure how development is going to pick up much more than it is. We have a ton of great ROMs that these awesome devs have been working on tirelessly since before the unlock was even announced. It's only been four months since the phone came out. The development has been moving at breakneck speed! The lack of flashing unsigned radios has no bearing on ROM developing. Con is dead on. Patience folks.
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I'm in the process of needing to upgrade to a new phone and have narrowed my choices down to the Galaxy S II or the Galaxy Nexus as they are the best phones in this price bracket. The main problem I'm currently having choosing between the two is the hardware advantages of the S II vs the software advantages of the GN.
The main thing holding me back from purchasing the S II is that I'm not sure if it will get the jelly bean update promptly seeing as it took 6 months for the SII to get ICS.
However this disadvantage would be nullified if there would be custom roms that would support the S II for jelly bean shortly after it is released on the GN without having to wait for the official support to arrive for the SII. Would these custom roms be released just as promptly as the jelly bean custom roms for the GN? Also how stable would those SII roms be compared to the ones for the GN?
I'm also curious as to how custom roms based on AOSP work in this way. Wouldn't developers just be able to just take the source code from google and apply it to either the GN or SII and have the custom rom released in the same amount of time for either phone or is it simply faster to develop a rom on the GN?
Basically as I see myself using a custom rom on either device if the SII would have a custom rom based on jelly bean released in pretty much the same time as one for the GN that is just as stable, I see no reason why the SII isn't a better choice over the Nexus in all areas and am looking to confirm if this is true. Also if I am to use a custom rom this would mean that I wouldn't get the prompt OTA updates from google either which defeats a lot of the point of the GN. Looking to confirm this point also.
The reason why JB support, and thus the attractiveness of the GN, is such a concern for me is that I believe a lot of the value in the phone you pay for is in how up to date it stays. Where hardware on a phone remains constant, if a phone can keep up to date with its software it will never age in this respect and keep getting better for the money you pay.
Thanks for your help guys!
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The main thing holding me back from purchasing the S II is that I'm not sure if it will get the jelly bean update promptly seeing as it took 6 months for the SII to get ICS.
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no-one knows, unanswerable question
However this disadvantage would be nullified if there would be custom roms that would support the S II for jelly bean shortly after it is released on the GN without having to wait for the official support to arrive for the SII. Would these custom roms be released just as promptly as the jelly bean custom roms for the GN? Also how stable would those SII roms be compared to the ones for the GN?
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probably but as JB isnt out, we dont know...
Plus, questions belong in Q&A not the general section
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Plus, questions belong in Q&A not the general section
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Sorry! Would a mod be able to remove this please or shall I go ahead and create a new post there? (Kinda a newb to all of this)
Also, my question is more along the lines of how roms actually work. Is it that e.g. google releases a generic ICS source code that works for all devices and the OEMs take that code and add their own skins to it where devs here can take that code too make a custom rom? In that case how come it still took months before the first ICS custom roms were available on the SII? Or is it that the custom roms have to be based off a device specific ICS that google/OEM releases to the devices which come months later after they are released on the nexus which would explain why it takes much longer for devices other than nexus phones to receive the updates?
Guys, I've lost touch with this thread since I've gone to the Note II on Verizon. I am wanting to give my brother my old Note since he has AT&T and the phone is just sitting unused, but I left my previous Note being a mess with force closes and all and he is not good with technology so I want the most stable ROM for him that I can overclock too. Any recommendations on ROM's and Kernels? I would like Jelly Bean if possible. Suggestions would be appreciated and then I'll check them out. Thanks.
Just return it to stock.
Does this mean there's nothing stable but stock!
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Does this mean there's nothing stable but stock!
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No, but it does mean that if you ask the question of 10 people, you'll get 10 different answers back. Some people will flash a new ROM, not have a reboot in 24 hours, and consider that "stable". It doesn't sound like the OP's brother will care about a rooted phone or running custom ROMs, so reverting it back to stock will probably be best for him.
Agreed.....
Stock phone would likely be best in this application...g
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I haven't had time but am on a week long vacation and really want to do this now. Stock is not really the answer I want. I would like to know the most stable ROM made that keeps all the Samsung apps and S Pen usability, but even more than that is running Jelly Bean. Can anyone point me to which posts to look at and decide, or just give me their opinion on them if they use them. And what is the best kernel for that, cause I would like to overclock. I will start looking myself, but would love to hear some opinions, not just "stick to stock". I have ran many, many ROMs over the years that were pretty stable without being stock. I am just out of touch with the Note 1 as I have had the Note 2 for awhile and hadn't done anything to my Note 1 in quite some time. I believe I was running Paranoid Android (charging it now) but would prefer a closer to stock based ROM. Thanks. I would rather have Jelly Bean over the Samsung apps and S Pen apps, so the most stable or Jelly Bean ROMs would be good to know.
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BUMP.
I haven't had time but am on a week long vacation and really want to do this now. Stock is not really the answer I want. I would like to know the most stable ROM made that keeps all the Samsung apps and S Pen usability, but even more than that is running Jelly Bean. Can anyone point me to which posts to look at and decide, or just give me their opinion on them if they use them. And what is the best kernel for that, cause I would like to overclock. I will start looking myself, but would love to hear some opinions, not just "stick to stock". I have ran many, many ROMs over the years that were pretty stable without being stock. I am just out of touch with the Note 1 as I have had the Note 2 for awhile and hadn't done anything to my Note 1 in quite some time. I believe I was running Paranoid Android (charging it now) but would prefer a closer to stock based ROM. Thanks. I would rather have Jelly Bean over the Samsung apps and S Pen apps, so the most stable or Jelly Bean ROMs would be good to know.
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I cant offer you a JB stock build for our note 1, because that build does not exist.
Since kernel source for JB has not been released, we are forced to use the JB framework blobs, combined with a modified ICS kernel.
This leaves us a broken rom, that has many working features, and is for the most part stable. But like all custom builds, leaves us with some bugs.
The "leave it stock" statement is not meant to be offensive. It simply is the truth at this point, as we have no official, "stable" JB builds. Although this site does offer many high quality JB variant builds. And no one person can tell you the best one, as our usage habits differ so greatly. You simply need to read the threads, and base your opinion on the user reports from the threads.
It is our hope that Samsung will release an update for us, and open the door on some amazing JB work. but until that happens, we will have bugs, and broken functionality.
I use a very nice ICS build on occasion, as I feel that it offers the best performance, balanced with a feature rich rom.
FlappJaxxx UCLF6 build #12 is my top pick at the moment.
Unfortunately, the rules prevent my linking the rom directly for you, as the developer is no longer on XDA. but his works can be found at rootdev.org in it's complete form. and I for one feel that until we see an official update, no better ICS/ JB variant work can be found than his.
and I'm sure that if/when the update comes, the same will be said for his quality of builds in the JB framework and beyond.
He has true talent for building outstanding code. And you are well served using his wares. I hold much respect for Flappjaxxx, despite his leaving XDA. And I'm greatful to have his work at my disposal.
Good luck in your search, and happy flashing.....g
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I cant offer you a JB stock build for our note 1, because that build does not exist.
Since kernel source for JB has not been released, we are forced to use the JB framework blobs, combined with a modified ICS kernel.
This leaves us a broken rom, that has many working features, and is for the most part stable. But like all custom builds, leaves us with some bugs.
The "leave it stock" statement is not meant to be offensive. It simply is the truth at this point, as we have no official, "stable" JB builds. Although this site does offer many high quality JB variant builds. And no one person can tell you the best one, as our usage habits differ so greatly. You simply need to read the threads, and base your opinion on the user reports from the threads.
It is our hope that Samsung will release an update for us, and open the door on some amazing JB work. but until that happens, we will have bugs, and broken functionality.
I use a very nice ICS build on occasion, as I feel that it offers the best performance, balanced with a feature rich rom.
FlappJaxxx UCLF6 build #12 is my top pick at the moment.
Unfortunately, the rules prevent my linking the rom directly for you, as the developer is no longer on XDA. but his works can be found at rootdev.org in it's complete form. and I for one feel that until we see an official update, no better ICS/ JB variant work can be found than his.
and I'm sure that if/when the update comes, the same will be said for his quality of builds in the JB framework and beyond.
He has true talent for building outstanding code. And you are well served using his wares. I hold much respect for Flappjaxxx, despite his leaving XDA. And I'm greatful to have his work at my disposal.
Good luck in your search, and happy flashing.....g
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Thanks for the reply. I remember Flappjaxxx. I will definitely take a look at this. I know all ROMs have problems. Just looking for a more stable than others one that is more up to date than just stock. Thanks, will give it a try.
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Thanks for the reply. I remember Flappjaxxx. I will definitely take a look at this. I know all ROMs have problems. Just looking for a more stable than others one that is more up to date than just stock. Thanks, will give it a try.
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Always welcome....g
Found the ROM. Which kernel and modem are you using?
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Found the ROM. Which kernel and modem are you using?
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Use the kernel already present in the rom...
And use the UCLF6 modem.....g
I'd recommend ptmr3's Padawan V8 7005 Base OR Padawan 5.1 UCLF6 . I've been running Padawan ROMs for 5 months and they all have been pretty stable. Take a look! :good:
Flapjaxxxx's FJKang is really stable, along with his h0tcakez kernel. It's 4.2.2 JB, too.
One of my favorite roms is definitely AOCP 4.1.2. Not the latest jb but by far one of the most stable roms I've ever used.
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One of my favorite roms is definitely AOCP 4.1.2. Not the latest jb but by far one of the most stable roms I've ever used.
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Do you mean this one?
[ROM/MOD]*TheCollective*[02-26-13] AoCP - CP5<VBTE> {4.2.2} for i717
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Flapjaxxxx's FJKang is really stable, along with his h0tcakez kernel. It's 4.2.2 JB, too.
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I was searching for stable as well. This one seems to be a good choice.
So is jelly beer.
Zeddock.
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Do you mean this one?
[ROM/MOD]*TheCollective*[02-26-13] AoCP - CP5<VBTE> {4.2.2} for i717
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Yes, but the 4.1.2 build. That one is 4.2.2 and while it is pretty stable I still find the 4.1.2 version to be a bit more solid. There's a link to older builds in that thread I believe.
I am not an expert. I know very little about these ROMs.
I AM A USER.
I always look for a stable but capable, and fast ROM. I love some of the freedoms these flashes give to me, and some of the "flow" of using my phone is better when stupid stuff is turned off and productive stuff is turned on and preinstalled.
Everyone is different and that is why many EXPERTS here will suggest trying each one.
For me, I do NOT like flashing. I do it when I feel there is a reasonable step forward or I hit issues and support dwindles for my current ROM.
All that said... Today...
I am pretty happy with flapp jaxxx and jellybeer.
Good luck. Hope this helps! Just my simple perspective... From a USER.
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I see Scott posted his Hyperdrive ROM over on the HTC Verizon One Development thread. Wondering if that could easily be ported to the DNA using the porting tool found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196491and a 4.2.2 Sense 5 base Rom like newts?
I loved Hyperdrive ROM on my SGS3 and would love to try to get it to the DNA
I'm sure it could but usually the developer owns the device they develop for or else users have to do all the testing which can get tricky. We have 4.3 out pretty stable and 4.2.2 sense 5 basically stable as well. We will get the 4.3 sense 5 update soon and our devs will trick it out so you've got options but we are lucky that we will have some good development projects well into next year.
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I'm sure it could but usually the developer owns the device they develop for or else users have to do all the testing which can get tricky. We have 4.3 out pretty stable and 4.2.2 sense 5 basically stable as well. We will get the 4.3 sense 5 update soon and our devs will trick it out so you've got options but we are lucky that we will have some good development projects well into next year.
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Oh yeah I completely agree. Development for this phone continues to improve and it's great. Many options. I was just simply wondering if that would work.
As long as the base/port roms are the same base (aosp/aosp, sense/sense) it should work more or less right?
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Oh yeah I completely agree. Development for this phone continues to improve and it's great. Many options. I was just simply wondering if that would work.
As long as the base/port roms are the same base (aosp/aosp, sense/sense) it should work more or less right?
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Should, yes. Its just different hardware basically albeit very similar to the ONE.