According to the sales assistant in my local Phones4U shop, there are 2 different versions of the 920, one that won't and can never work on 4G and one that will.
Does anyone know if this is true? I assumed it was the device that was 4G capable, full stop. If you have a 4G network/SIM then you put it in and it works, possibly requiring some change in config settings, but surely there isn't a 3G only version of the device.
They wouldn't sell me one SIM free as they only had enough stock for new contracts apparently and it was only available in white so far. Plus, this is where she then claimed that I had to buy the EE contract version in order to get a 4G capable device, and my theory of buying a SIM free device to use with my SIM on the 3 network for now, with a view to gaining 4G once 3 brought theirs online in my area.
Appreciate any comments from someone who knows what is true. I really don't (want to) believe what the sales assistant has told me. It seems daft.
cheers,
Wes
All of them are capable of LTE, but there are variations in the bands, so it is possible that you could get one that wouldn't work 3's LTE once it is deployed, but that is very unlikely if you purchase a UK version of the device as I'm fairly certain OFCOM didn't sell too many bands for LTE.
I got told the same thing at P4U
I was told that my Black 920 EE branded wouldn't work on 4G but if you look on the box all the LTE bands are listed... turned the phone on and found a option that allows 4g connection... i will find out in a few days once my EE 4G sim turns up.
called up the local EE shop who did me a black 920 for £399 and gave me a free set of WESC headphones and a free wireless charging plate, there and then. Oh, and i also had to pay £10 top up for a PAYG SIM that came with it as this was a deal for buying the phone as PAYG. It accepts EE, Orange, T-Mobile and Virgin SIMs in the UK so i can just put my existing Orange SIM in. Absolute bargain i thought
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hi there im doing my rounds In LA soon and would love to buy a hero out there my main concern is, when i return to the UK will it work with one of my UK networks... any one have any insight into this.....
If it is unlocked , answer is tes.
My hero was on Orange UK ,and using with 3 network and will most certainly work with networks in US.
The answer is no!
The Sprint Hero is a CDMA device. It doesn't have a SIM card slot, because CDMA devices don't use SIM cards, so you can't give it another "identity" by inserting a different SIM like you can a GSM phone.
I believe that there are some phones that support both CDMA and GSM, and these can operate on both types of network because they have a radio that supports both and a SIM card slot.
Note that some CDMA networks have implemented what they call a UIM, which does the same job as a SIM card, but isn't compatible.
Regards.
Dave
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My hero was on Orange UK ,and using with 3 network and will most certainly work with networks in US.
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In the US, it will work on T-Mobile and AT&T (GSM networks) but not Sprint and Verizon (CDMA networks). Note that you will also not get 3G from the GSM networks, because the Euro Hero doesn't support the 3G bands needed by either AT&T and T-Mobile, so EDGE is the best you will see.
Regards,
Dave
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In the US, it will work on T-Mobile and AT&T (GSM networks) but not Sprint and Verizon (CDMA networks). Note that you will also not get 3G from the GSM networks, because the Euro Hero doesn't support the 3G bands needed by either AT&T and T-Mobile, so EDGE is the best you will see.
Regards,
Dave
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this doesent answer my question it does the opposite.....
im trying to find out.. if a US hero that i buy in the US will work on any uk network....??
My previous post answered your question! The second post was commenting on what Lord Lucan had said.
Regards,
Dave
so dave in the us cant i just buy a sim free non network hero... ?
The "worldwide" GSM Hero does not support any of the 3G bands employed by networks in the US. So, if you were to buy a GSM Hero, it would work on either T-Mobile US or AT&T, but the best you would get, data wise, is EDGE whilst you are in the US. When you come back to the UK, you would be able to get 3G.
The US Hero, otherwise known as the Sprint Hero, is a CDMA device. This will not work at all on any UK networks.
Regards,
Dave
cool thanks for reply's dave.. looks like im gonna get one. ok so does anyone know where i could pick one up while im there.. im staying in west hollywood.
Why do you want to physically buy one in the US?
You can buy one from Expansys in the US for $540, or in the UK for £370 (with £30 worth of vouchers).
Assuming you could find a local retailer which stocks them in West Hollywood with prices similar to Expansys, you'd have to pay sales tax on it @ 9.75% would bring the cost pretty close to £370.
Regards,
Dave
becasue i have loads of usd to burn and not loads of GBP are you glad you now know my business......anyway back to where a retailer might be
i dont thing it would have uk 3g
would it?
Sorry probably none of my business but what use would the Sprint hero serve you in the UK since it is not possible to connect to any UK network or did I misunderstand. Wouldn't you be better off with the UK hero, at least that one could be rooted. Personally I would rather have that one, but the grass is always greener right.
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Sorry probably none of my business but what use would the Sprint hero serve you in the UK since it is not possible to connect to any UK network or did I misunderstand. Wouldn't you be better off with the UK hero, at least that one could be rooted. Personally I would rather have that one, but the grass is always greener right.
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no wrong your whole post is a wrong... i have a USD budget for every year.. so i dont care what price it is i just wanted to get one while im out there.. and as currently posted before like 3 times.. i don't want a sprint one.....so where might i be able to pick a non sprint hero up while in LA.. ?????????
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no wrong your whole post is a wrong... i have a USD budget for every year.. so i dont care what price it is i just wanted to get one while im out there.. and as currently posted before like 3 times.. i don't want a sprint one.....so where might i be able to pick a non sprint hero up while in LA.. ?????????
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umm...there is no non-sprint hero in the US. The cdma hero aka the US hero aka the SPRINT hero is ONLY available on sprint and from sprint. This phone does not use a sim card or any thing like it, when you turn one on for the first time it automatically connects to the sprint network and is linked to the number of the sprint subscriber that purchases by the phones unique ESN number, which cannot be changed legally. If you want a chinless hero, the one that is available on sprint and does not look at all like the UK hero, it will only and can only connect to CDMA networks and as far as I know only sprint. So no my post was not A wrong, I admitted to being kinda lost I just asked what use would a phone that you can not use as a phone serve you, a also asked if I had misunderstood, which I am sure now that I did not, you seem to be the lost one. When you get your US hero and try to unlock it for a gsm network, where are you going to stick the SIM card, please send me a video of you trying to put it into the phone, that will be fun to watch.
I recently took my phone to the UK, and it seems to get no signal at all. When I do the *#*#4636#*#* service menu, it only states that it has usa bands (my captivate and nexus one had multiple bands to choose from). Does anyone know of a workaround to get this phone working overseas?
Called AT&T and they were no help in getting the phone connected.
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I recently took my phone to the UK, and it seems to get no signal at all. When I do the *#*#4636#*#* service menu, it only states that it has usa bands (my captivate and nexus one had multiple bands to choose from). Does anyone know of a workaround to get this phone working overseas?
Called AT&T and they were no help in getting the phone connected.
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AT&T does that **** on purpose because they want you to pay for their international plan...if you talk to them about it, they'll tell you that you need to sign up for a plan that will let you go out of the US with signal.. (it's not permanent, but you pay for the month that you are gone).
Problem is I already have the international roaming plan.
If you're trying to use a foreign simcard it wont work unless you have a sim unlock code.
Otherwise there is no reason it shouldnt work overseas on your ATT sim card if you have the right plan. it has the correct 3g bands to work anywhere in UK/EU on 3g.
It could be that its not pulling down the right APN settings for orange or whatever provider its trying to roam on. Just a thought.
Just out of curiosity where in the UK were you? I was there in Dec with my AT&T Blackberry (worked fine) and will be there in June with my BB and my Atrix (didn't have a personal international phone when I was there in Dec as I had been on Sprint at the time). In the past I've had no problems - taken past AT&T phones to Germany, France, Spain, Scotland, Slovenia and Italy and they've always worked (that was with my old HTC Fuze which I had totally unlocked). The only place I ever had a problem was rural Wyoming about 100 miles west of Sturgis two summers ago. It wouldn't work but for one corner of the driveway at the cabin we were staying at.
I have been in London. I actually brought my samsung captivate, and put my at&t sim card, and everything worked just fine. If I place my sim card back in the atrix it looks as if it does not detect the signal at all.
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I recently took my phone to the UK, and it seems to get no signal at all. When I do the *#*#4636#*#* service menu, it only states that it has usa bands (my captivate and nexus one had multiple bands to choose from). Does anyone know of a workaround to get this phone working overseas?
Called AT&T and they were no help in getting the phone connected.
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Hi. I know where you can work that phone overseas. Kindly contact me.
Hi guys,
I'm from Aus and trying to get a non-savvy US (Cali, splitting time between Sac and SF) friend set up with an unlocked phone suitable for short-term US and overseas use due to travel requirements. The Amaze 4G looks great. I've tried to find answers, but would like some knowledgable eyeballs on my proposal:
1. A US website currently has the Amaze 4G for $479.50 which is much cheaper than all other options. Is this legit? Is there only the X715M model out there, or is this a predecessor?
2. Are all unlocked 'Tmo' Amaze 4G phones able to operate on GSM 850/900/1800/1900 as well as UMTS 1700/2100, both physically and as allowed by the carrier? Any weird APN/data connectivity restrictions due to unlocked phone?
3. Can this phone connect to Tmo at 3G speeds if AWS is unavailable? I read somewhere that 3G 1900 would be required, and this phone doesn't appear to have that?
4. I want to get it on the $30/m walmart/tmo prepaid plan (5G uncapped is plenty of data) but can't see how to order just the sim via their website. should I just have my friend go into walmart? prefer not to muck around with simplemobile if possible - ironically, i want to keep this whole enterprise as simple as possible with a big carrier/theoretically good support.
5. Is this idea, for use in the US primarily but also overseas over the next 12 or so months, future-proof for a couple of years? e.g. I've read about tmo working on HSPA 1900MHz, but hopefully AT&T remains an option if Tmo ends up being unsatisfactory for any reason.
Thanks for having a read, hoping to tie this up ASAP. Much love for any responses.
resolved said:
Hi guys,
I'm from Aus and trying to get a non-savvy US (Cali, splitting time between Sac and SF) friend set up with an unlocked phone suitable for short-term US and overseas use due to travel requirements. The Amaze 4G looks great. I've tried to find answers, but would like some knowledgable eyeballs on my proposal:
1. A US website currently has the Amaze 4G for $479.50 which is much cheaper than all other options. Is this legit? Is there only the X715M model out there, or is this a predecessor?
2. Are all unlocked 'Tmo' Amaze 4G phones able to operate on GSM 850/900/1800/1900 as well as UMTS 1700/2100, both physically and as allowed by the carrier? Any weird APN/data connectivity restrictions due to unlocked phone?
3. Can this phone connect to Tmo at 3G speeds if AWS is unavailable? I read somewhere that 3G 1900 would be required, and this phone doesn't appear to have that?
4. I want to get it on the $30/m walmart/tmo prepaid plan (5G uncapped is plenty of data) but can't see how to order just the sim via their website. should I just have my friend go into walmart? prefer not to muck around with simplemobile if possible - ironically, i want to keep this whole enterprise as simple as possible with a big carrier/theoretically good support.
5. Is this idea, for use in the US primarily but also overseas over the next 12 or so months, future-proof for a couple of years? e.g. I've read about tmo working on HSPA 1900MHz, but hopefully AT&T remains an option if Tmo ends up being unsatisfactory for any reason.
Thanks for having a read, hoping to tie this up ASAP. Much love for any responses.
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1. 479 sounds legit for phone, i dont know about x715m but i do know that us tmobile version is compatible with all bands networks.
2. Yes all US tmobile amaze 4g operate on GSM 850/900/1800/1900 as well as UMTS 1700/2100, both physically and as allowed by the carrier. As far as apn you would need to set up your apn settings according to the network you are using.
3. If no AWS available then only 2g Edge will work, although I have called tmobile and asked if amaze 4g unlocked will be able to use att's hspa network and they said yes amaze and sg2 are only phones capable of that meaning they were built with future proof in mind. I also seen around that tmobile version has all 3g network bands but not sure myself.
4. Easiest would be to have friend pay and pick up the sim card at walmart but i do remind you it is 30/m- 100 min and 5gb of 4g speeds CAPPED, but 2g edge speeds after the 5gb. Simple mobile is 60/m - unltd talk unlt text and 2gb of 4g speeds capped then 2g edge speeds after just depends on your preference.
5. This is a good idea as att will stil be an option and now that att failed to buy tmobile, att has come to an agreement in a roaming contract with tmobile for 7 years.
hope this helps you a little bit more in what ever you decide, good luck!
thanks mate, helped confirmed a few things in my mind.
Negri said they're on backorder so I went ahead and ordered the phone from an Amazon seller for $500. I can only hope everything's legit - I'm not too sure what the dangers of this option are. My best idea is just to use the phone heavily in the first week after getting it and make sure everything works.
now i just need a "beginners guide to android" to help the friend work through the basics... google time.
Is this your first Android phone?
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using xda premium
nope, i've had a HTC Hero and currently run a SGS2. I bought the Amaze for a friend who's new to Android due to Apple's stupid GSM-only unlocked phones, and their lack of 1.7ghz for tmo.
we'll get through it, tho after 15 mins of googling, there's a distinct lack of good "idiot user's (not programmer's) guide to android" articles/books. will write something up myself, i think.
my response to you above is more fishing for people's ideas about how Amazon sellers can be dodgy, esp. when pretty much every website is still doing the Amaze for $6-700.. I wondered if there were any potential pitfalls with the $500 price.
resolved said:
nope, i've had a HTC Hero and currently run a SGS2. I bought the Amaze for a friend who's new to Android due to Apple's stupid GSM-only unlocked phones, and their lack of 1.7ghz for tmo.
we'll get through it, tho after 15 mins of googling, there's a distinct lack of good "idiot user's (not programmer's) guide to android" articles/books. will write something up myself, i think.
my response to you above is more fishing for people's ideas about how Amazon sellers can be dodgy, esp. when pretty much every website is still doing the Amaze for $6-700.. I wondered if there were any potential pitfalls with the $500 price.
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I bought mine from eBay. It was used for a week with everything and he gave me an Incipio case. I bought it for $445. I was happy with it.
resolved said:
Hi guys,
I'm from Aus and trying to get a non-savvy US (Cali, splitting time between Sac and SF) friend set up with an unlocked phone suitable for short-term US and overseas use due to travel requirements. The Amaze 4G looks great. I've tried to find answers, but would like some knowledgable eyeballs on my proposal:
1. A US website currently has the Amaze 4G for $479.50 which is much cheaper than all other options. Is this legit? Is there only the X715M model out there, or is this a predecessor?
2. Are all unlocked 'Tmo' Amaze 4G phones able to operate on GSM 850/900/1800/1900 as well as UMTS 1700/2100, both physically and as allowed by the carrier? Any weird APN/data connectivity restrictions due to unlocked phone?
3. Can this phone connect to Tmo at 3G speeds if AWS is unavailable? I read somewhere that 3G 1900 would be required, and this phone doesn't appear to have that?
5. Is this idea, for use in the US primarily but also overseas over the next 12 or so months, future-proof for a couple of years? e.g. I've read about tmo working on HSPA 1900MHz, but hopefully AT&T remains an option if Tmo ends up being unsatisfactory for any reason.
Thanks for having a read, hoping to tie this up ASAP. Much love for any responses.
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From what i understand, this phone has UMTS/HSPA+ support for 850,1700/2100aws/1900mhz and 2100mhz. Pretty much anywhere in the world that uses those.
I've just bought a used H850 which was supposed to be locked to the EE network, but my Plusnet Mobile SIM doesn't seem to work with it (Plusnet Mobile uses the EE network). How can I check which network the phone is locked to?
Im on EE UK and so far as I know.. EE locked phones only allow T-Mobile, Orange, IKEA Family Sim... not PlusNet... PlusNet might use their towers and frequencies, but they have to be registered with EE to work on the Sims... Howver, your in luck... along with HTC phones, the LGs on EE are one of the cheapest and fastest mobiles to get unlocked
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unlock-Co...206430?hash=item4ad346b55e:g:3W8AAOxyBvZTQTRf
Ive had 5 G5s unlocked by these guys.. and all 5 times, the codes came back within 3 hours... even on a Sunday..
Be aware though, some High street trade in stores (CEX, Granger Games, GAME) have warranties and if you sim unlock the G5, it will invalidate that warranty
Good Luck
NightOrchid said:
Im on EE UK and so far as I know.. EE locked phones only allow T-Mobile, Orange, IKEA Family Sim... not PlusNet... PlusNet might use their towers and frequencies, but they have to be registered with EE to work on the Sims... Howver, your in luck... along with HTC phones, the LGs on EE are one of the cheapest and fastest mobiles to get unlocked
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unlock-Co...206430?hash=item4ad346b55e:g:3W8AAOxyBvZTQTRf
Ive had 5 G5s unlocked by these guys.. and all 5 times, the codes came back within 3 hours... even on a Sunday..
Good Luck
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Looks like I got lucky. After a reboot I was indeed able to connect to the network. So it seems that, in my case at least, a Plusnet SIM does work on an EE-locked handset.
Just buy a 99p sim from your local home bargains/B&M Bargains and try them out.
However, I'm pretty sure that a mobile phone that is locked locked to the EE network will allow a SIM card from a mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) that uses the EE network. So Plusnet/Virgin Mobile/Asda Mobile will work in an EE locked handset, likewise an O2 locked handset will work with Tesco Mobile/GiffGaff SIM card.
My brother has an iPad pro and on the tablet in the settings he can browse many available plans from verizon, att, tmobile etc. He is able to purchase it and then immediately use the cellular data plan. I specifically like the $20 for 5GB for 5 months plan that he has access to. Do Samsung tablets have similar functionality (probably with esim)?
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My brother has an iPad pro and on the tablet in the settings he can browse many available plans from verizon, att, tmobile etc. He is able to purchase it and then immediately use the cellular data plan. I specifically like the $20 for 5GB for 5 months plan that he has access to. Do Samsung tablets have similar functionality (probably with esim)?
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No. It uses a nano SIM. Find the best deal, get a nano SIM from the provider, and you're off to the races. There are no LTE versions being sold in the U.S. currently and the overseas versions don't work on CDMA so no Verizon and Sprint although they may work on their LTE networks for data because it supports their bands. The dialer and MMS definitely won't work. When the U.S. versions are released they'll be locked to the carrier you bought it from, loaded with their crap on it, the dialer will be disabled, and you can't reflash it using an international ROM because the model numbers are different.
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No. It uses a nano SIM. Find the best deal, get a nano SIM from the provider, and you're off to the races. There are no LTE versions being sold in the U.S. currently and the overseas versions don't work on CDMA so no Verizon and Sprint although they may work on their LTE networks for data because it supports their bands. The dialer and MMS definitely won't work. When the U.S. versions are released they'll be locked to the carrier you bought it from, loaded with their crap on it, the dialer will be disabled, and you can't reflash it using an international ROM because the model numbers are different.
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So no phone/SMS/MMS function even if you have the right sim? I was going to look at the T-Mobile tab today but if those functions are disabled why would I want to pay $100 more for a tab with half the storage? I'll just get the WiFi version and run it if need be from my hot spot on my phone for internet access.
You can get genuine LTE versions from E-Bay no problem, why would you buy a 'carrier specific' one that then locks you to that carrier.
Note that, as mentioned earlier in the thread, that the S6 does NOT have an unlocked CDMA version so even with LTE certain carriers won't work.
In the UK using the LTE 256GB S6 with Giffgaff means unlmtd calls and SMS and 8GB data for $12 month, rolling 30 day contract (so no long term commitment). I'm always shocked that my US friends pay fortunes for phone and cable services compared to the UK.
When I travel in the States I use a UK Three sim in roaming mode that allows me to use my UK calls/SMS/Data allowance without any surcharge, still works out loads cheaper then using a US SIM.