i need to know how things like bootloader , s-off ,kernels work on HTC Devices
Bootloader - i herad that it can be unlocked using HTCDEV.COM
===Q. Does unlocking my bootloader using HTCDEV.COM Void my WARRANTY ??
===Q. Can i flash custom kernels like cm9 ,aokp,pacman etc after unlocking bootloader??
S=On -- i know this as once i used HTC WILDFIRE ,ALPHAREV,REVOLUTIONAR Helped in those days
===Q. what CANT BE DONE WHEN S-ON ?? (like u cant flash custom kernels when S-ON etc)
===Q.WHAT is a RUU
AND U can tell anyother important things(related to development or general) that i need to know or consider before i buy this phone ,
sorry for long list of questions ,i used SONY till date so dont know much around ,thanks in advance
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Unlocking your device trough htcdev will leave it s-on, but you will be able to flash roms. There isn't any rom yet though, and there isn't any way to get it s-off yet. You can't flash kernels trough cwm with htcdev unlockes, but you'll be able to flash them with fastboot.
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MaartenXDA said:
Unlocking your device trough htcdev will leave it s-on, but you will be able to flash roms. There isn't any rom yet though, and there isn't any way to get it s-off yet. You can't flash kernels trough cwm with htcdev unlockes, but you'll be able to flash them with fastboot.
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what about warranty ?? will i void if i use htcdev.com
thank you
Yes
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Hmm..guess ill have to reconsider this phone
thanks anyway
ze0 said:
i need to know how things like bootloader , s-off ,kernels work on HTC Devices
Bootloader - i herad that it can be unlocked using HTCDEV.COM
===Q. Does unlocking my bootloader using HTCDEV.COM Void my WARRANTY ??
===Q. Can i flash custom kernels like cm9 ,aokp,pacman etc after unlocking bootloader??
S=On -- i know this as once i used HTC WILDFIRE ,ALPHAREV,REVOLUTIONAR Helped in those days
===Q. what CANT BE DONE WHEN S-ON ?? (like u cant flash custom kernels when S-ON etc)
===Q.WHAT is a RUU
AND U can tell anyother important things(related to development or general) that i need to know or consider before i buy this phone ,
sorry for long list of questions ,i used SONY till date so dont know much around ,thanks in advance
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RUU is Rom Update Utility.
You can't flash CID / Radio without S-Off.
ze0 said:
Hmm..guess ill have to reconsider this phone
thanks anyway
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Unlocking the bootloader on any HTC phone will void your warranty, just so you know
HTC ONE V or DESIRE X...?
Hi all,
I Just sold my HTC Wildfire S cause of (very much disappointed) battery, low speed, low memory even after rooted the device.
Now I'm in dilemma to chose between ONE V and Desire X(my max budget).
I prefer Desire X then One V, because of :
Dual Core, 4 Inch Display, 768 Mb Ram, 1650 mAh battery and some say upgradable to Jelly Bean....
Can any ONE help me to decide on this....?
or give your verdict if you are going to buy......?
(I like to know more from Desire X users....)
I had the same dilemma too... But seller tell me to buy the desire (one v cost the same here). Bigger screen, dual core, better battery, jb confirmed by htc Czech republic etc. No problem at all. One v have some of my friends and have lot of problem with display and the chin at the bottom of the phone. I see three biggest advantage is jelly bean update. Desire x will have it but one v is officially stuck on ics forever
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Gnaver said:
I had the same dilemma too... But seller tell me to buy the desire (one v cost the same here). Bigger screen, dual core, better battery, jb confirmed by htc Czech republic etc. No problem at all. One v have some of my friends and have lot of problem with display and the chin at the bottom of the phone. I see three biggest advantage is jelly bean update. Desire x will have it but one v is officially stuck on ics forever
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The only +ves of One V
720p video record
Compass
Higher PPI Display
In all remaining specs, desire X rox !
Thank you Guys,
I was expecting this kind of answer, I go with Desire X even though little bit more have to pay (around $30-40) more than One V in India.
Thanks again for the feedback...
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how can i update hboot of my htc desire x..?? plzz help
Yashrajsoni05 said:
how can i update hboot of my htc desire x..?? plzz help
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Maybe just to update to jelly bean ?
Yashrajsoni05 said:
how can i update hboot of my htc desire x..?? plzz help
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Yes, there are 3 ways
1. Softwate/OTA update from HTC (Officially)
2. S-OFF your Desire X and use a modified P66IMG.zip to manually flash hboot update.
3. Use an RUU for Hboot update (if available)
Regards
Yasir
As far as i know option two (S-OFF) isn't possible for Desire X as of yet, and option three (a JB RUU) hasen't been released.
So we're just left with option one. Do i miss something?
Twisthor said:
As far as i know option two (S-OFF) isn't possible for Desire X as of yet, and option three (a JB RUU) hasen't been released.
So we're just left with option one. Do i miss something?
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yes, youre left with option one
Twisthor said:
As far as i know option two (S-OFF) isn't possible for Desire X as of yet, and option three (a JB RUU) hasen't been released.
So we're just left with option one. Do i miss something?
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I gave a generic answer.
But you're right, S off not here yet. And ruu also.
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Thnxx
thanxx guyz for suport.....i had rooted desire x....nd its had a hboot version 1.20....plzz help me tp update it......
Yashrajsoni05 said:
thanxx guyz for suport.....i had rooted desire x....nd its had a hboot version 1.20....plzz help me tp update it......
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You can only update hboot via OTA update, and for that, you need stock Rom, like it was before rooting, and stock recovery. Then you'll get the hboot update to 1.24 and then 1.25 hopefully.
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Thanks bro...
neXus PRIME said:
You can only update hboot via OTA update, and for that, you need stock Rom, like it was before rooting, and stock recovery. Then you'll get the hboot update to 1.24 and then 1.25 hopefully.
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bt will u explain it how can i go back to stock rom......coz i had tried may time..........im faild... :'(
Yashrajsoni05 said:
bt will u explain it how can i go back to stock rom......coz i had tried may time..........im faild... :'(
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Whats your cid??? if its 044, then use this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2210619
and this thread for other q&a
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076675
Regards
neXus PRIME said:
Whats your cid??? if its 044, then use this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2210619
and this thread for other q&a
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076675
Regards
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Its htc__038
is anyone besides V6 maniac working on the s-off ? I woulda thought s-off would be one of the first few things people would of worked on after disabling write protection and rooting the phone or am I wrong ?
azraelcelt said:
is anyone besides V6 maniac working on the s-off ? I woulda thought s-off would be one of the first few things people would of worked on after disabling write protection and rooting the phone or am I wrong ?
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s-off involves high risk of bricking the device thats why devs stay from it and its very hard to attain s-off as it requires lot of hardware knowledge.. leavin aside some fancy mods, we can still do alot of development without s-off
S-OFF
ohok didnt realise it was that hard to do also when a device is bricked due to this does that mean using a JTAG recovery thing, (I saw one of the guys in the elegancia rom post meantion this) would not recover a bricked phone ?
azraelcelt said:
ohok didnt realise it was that hard to do also when a device is bricked due to this does that mean using a JTAG recovery thing, (I saw one of the guys in the elegancia rom post meantion this) would not recover a bricked phone ?
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jtag should allways be able to recover any bricked device (thats kinda point of using it)
oohk just got the idea that it didnt always work although the JTAG thing I was looking at did several things like S-OFF supercid etc
neXus PRIME said:
Whats your cid??? if its 044, then use this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2210619
and this thread for other q&a
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076675
Regards
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so it means i have to put stock ROM back tom my phone to get the officaly rom included the 1.25 hboot? or iam stupid ?
Solsylen said:
so it means i have to put stock ROM back tom my phone to get the officaly rom included the 1.25 hboot? or iam stupid ?
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You're not stupid, just not reading much.
Yes, you need a stock ROM with everything intact (not even a single file is missing).
ckpv5 said:
You're not stupid, just not reading much.
Yes, you need a stock ROM with everything intact (not even a single file is missing).
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@ckpv5.
I recently tried an experiment. My bro Huawei phone got ota but as he had modified system apps, the ota failed. His ota also had firmware and hboot update (89mb)
I opened the ota zip, in updater script removed all assert checks, and then flashed ota, and it completed, even his firmware and hboot got updated. Have we ever tried fooling HTC stock recovery ?
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neXus PRIME said:
@ckpv5.
I recently tried an experiment. My bro Huawei phone got ota but as he had modified system apps, the ota failed. His ota also had firmware and hboot update (89mb)
I opened the ota zip, in updater script removed all assert checks, and then flashed ota, and it completed, even his firmware and hboot got updated. Have we ever tried fooling HTC stock recovery ?
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It was not working for One X ... so I believe the same for DX ... the write protection thingy.
hello, everyone
i have HTC DESIRE X
It was locked but i followed site called htcdev method and now it's unlocked
i want to install another room on it which can be rooted and unlocked network
i want to ask what's the needed steps now ? and give me links about how i can do the steps ?
and am i need to s-off the mobile
thank you
Read under "install" or "instructions" on the page of the rom you want to flash.
oddoneout said:
Read under "install" or "instructions" on the page of the rom you want to flash.
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yes i want to flash another room with unlocked network and rooted
Bithumen said:
yes i want to flash another room with unlocked network and rooted
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Not S-OFF for Desire X yet.
xpirt
No need to s-off.
Flash a custom recovery.
Flash your custom Rom.
Follow instructions and TAKE BACKUP BEFORE DOING ANYTHING AT ALL .....
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i unlocked the boatloader and flashed recovery and a new rom and the network still unlocked ? ! i dont know what is the problem
Anyone contacted Team Revolutionary yet? Bet they'd get it sorted in minimal timing
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I think atis112 should do it, otherwise I would try myself
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Even the dead child HTC First got moonshine s-off :-o
navmad
BatEarsJoe said:
Anyone contacted Team Revolutionary yet? Bet they'd get it sorted in minimal timing
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I sent a message to kmdm from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42322906 and ask him if i can use the "revone" to my DX but not responced.
Any news about Revone S-OFF by team Revolutionary? It seems it's working on a lot of HTC devices. :fingers-crossed:
As long as nobody tests it, no... I can't give my phone for that, too important it keeps runnning...
I see. We should contact team revolutionary and ask if we should try. Anyone is in touch with them on facebook, twitter or some other channel?
nor-ric said:
I see. We should contact team revolutionary and ask if we should try. Anyone is in touch with them on facebook, twitter or some other channel?
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Can u provide me their account/id/page or any other such thing,from where I can contact them?
They say:
Support
Please visit #revolutionary on the Freenode IRC network.
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I could go there in IRC, but I can't test it on my phone with the risk of bricking it, so someone else is needed for testing...
I see. Well, let's see what they say. Maybe it's safe or (more probably) they are sure it won't work.
s-off
I don't use my desire x and don't really care about it. Should I test revone s-off? Only if you guys really really need s-off. Dont just say you want it because some say so. I'm still risking a phone here.
If its a yes, please give me a link to the necessary files. As I have super slow internet atm. And I cannot load up several pages to find it. Used up all my data usage again >.>.
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I really think there is no risk (at worst it will do nothing), but let's wait for dansou901's answer, just in case.
And thanks in advance.
@nor-ric will wait. Hopefully the phone will only soft brick or not brick at all
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Before you get all like : "Man use the search button" and stuff i know what is s-off and i know that our device doesn't have one. xD
So here is the deal.
What do we need to get s-off on our device ?
Can we use the Revolutionary ?
How different is the s-off for HTC Desire,HTC Desire S and HTC Desire X ?
nightwalkerkg said:
Before you get all like : "Man use the search button" and stuff i know what is s-off and i know that our device doesn't have one. xD
So here is the deal.
What do we need to get s-off on our device ?
Can we use the Revolutionary ?
How different is the s-off for HTC Desire,HTC Desire S and HTC Desire X ?
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We need to have Kernel sources for getting s-off which are yet to be released by HTC, s-off is different for HTC desire , S etc. because their kernal sources are different..
RishiChhikkara said:
We need to have Kernel sources for getting s-off which are yet to be released by HTC, s-off is different for HTC desire , S etc. because their kernal sources are different..
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Ok,i understand,thanks for answering.
This UK website claims they can S-OFF the Desire X. I wonder how, maybe there is a way after all? I've emailed them asking how they do it and i'll post back if they reply.
http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/Unlocking/htc_s-off_service.htm
Jtag ?
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ShadowCodeGaming said:
This UK website claims they can S-OFF the Desire X. I wonder how, maybe there is a way after all? I've emailed them asking how they do it and i'll post back if they reply.
http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/Unlocking/htc_s-off_service.htm
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Did you read that website carefully? I don't think they'll just tell us their method...
Saw same russian sites who can make s-off for desire X for money
and yes, it's jtag
What is jtag??
HTC Desire X || Android 4.1.2 || mySENSEdx5 RC3.0
kapucho19 said:
What is jtag??
HTC Desire X || Android 4.1.2 || mySENSEdx5 RC3.0
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A device that can repair a HTC device with almost any problem (in the software)
But search for it next time
How much use is s-off if we can't even get some more roms to fiddle with
Wish I could help with the CM development.
oddoneout said:
How much use is s-off if we can't even get some more roms to fiddle with
Wish I could help with the CM development.
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S-off has nothing to do with roms, so I don't see your point
oddoneout said:
How much use is s-off if we can't even get some more roms to fiddle with
Wish I could help with the CM development.
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Mainly Flashing kernels from recovery and Changing splash screen (though we do have alternative ways to the above already)
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try this
http://www.redmondpie.com/root-unro...vices-in-one-click-using-htc-quick-root-tool/
azraelcelt said:
http://www.redmondpie.com/root-unro...vices-in-one-click-using-htc-quick-root-tool/
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Rooting is not the same as S-Off. We already got a OneClickRoot-Tool.
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has anybody do this method?
Are in S-off big new features or what can I make more with S-off?
FAExZ
First of all: Nobody has done it yet as much as I know. And: With S-Off you unlock nand partition, that means you are able to customize radio and hboot and can flash kernels and recoverys via recovery and don't need a PC for that. But for now it isn't possible for us without special hardware, in this case jtag...
Hi guys,
I'm a HTC One S owner and on its subforum I came across this new s-off method that supposedly works for EVERY Qualcomm based HTC device. Worth trying on our Desire X too.:fingers-crossed:
http://rumrunner.us/
nor-ric said:
Hi guys,
I'm a HTC One S owner and on its subforum I came across this new s-off method that supposedly works for EVERY Qualcomm based HTC device. Worth trying on our Desire X too.:fingers-crossed:
http://rumrunner.us/
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Has it been tested on all HTC devices? It's not mentioned on the link.
adbroot said:
Has it been tested on all HTC devices? It's not mentioned on the link.
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Not all of them, but there's a list somewhere on that site. And it also works on HTC One S (even with those hboots that don't allow facepalm or moonshine methods), even though not listed. The site claims it should work on EVERY Qualcomm based HTC device.
nor-ric said:
Hi guys,
I'm a HTC One S owner and on its subforum I came across this new s-off method that supposedly works for EVERY Qualcomm based HTC device. Worth trying on our Desire X too.:fingers-crossed:
http://rumrunner.us/
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So who's gonna test it first??
InfinityShooter said:
So who's gonna test it first??
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Tested and not working! :/
atis112 said:
Tested and not working! :/
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Can you ask the devs of rumrunner for support? Maybe "every modern qualcomn based HTC device" doesn't match ours in some way...
This isn't new and it was mentioned on our sub-forum a while ago and already confirmed not working, and i thought a load of users already messaged the team but none ever gave an update on it
+1 Not working with stock rom, may be with next release 0.51 ...
Damn...
Were you guys who tried this on unlocked bootloader and rooted? These seems to be recommended prerequisites.
By the way, to ask for support thy say:
support for rumrunner s-off is available at #rumrunners on the freenode and andirc networks.
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Do someone use irc?
What's the real big benefit of getting S off ?
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You can then fastboot flash everything, lock the bootloader without displaying "LOCKED".
neXus PRIME said:
What's the real big benefit of getting S off ?
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And also u can flash kernels in recovery.
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And also u can flash kernels in recovery.
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frankly, that takes 5 seconds on fastboot. Only gripe is that u have to use a PC, but still we dont have that many kernels or Roms to flash in order to make s-off much useful
On my old bravo, it made more sense, because they could remap all the partition sizes and hence decrease size of cache and system partition and added that to data partition.
But still, maybe someone will benefit from it
neXus PRIME said:
frankly, that takes 5 seconds on fastboot. Only gripe is that u have to use a PC, but still we dont have that many kernels or Roms to flash in order to make s-off much useful
On my old bravo, it made more sense, because they could remap all the partition sizes and hence decrease size of cache and system partition and added that to data partition.
But still, maybe someone will benefit from it
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Yeah! There aren't much kernels or roms to flash & roms can be flashed through recovery!
But the major feature is that we can get our bootloaders locked instead of relocked & have the warranty back.
On the One S subforum they say it doesn't work unless you unlock the bootloader and root.
nor-ric said:
On the One S subforum they say it doesn't work unless you unlock the bootloader and root.
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Which they did.
neXus PRIME said:
What's the real big benefit of getting S off ?
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I guess no need for pc to flash kernel is exactly what we need in first place Personally I would change splash screen and try to get rid of Red warning text on every boot!
DeveloperOne said:
I guess no need for pc to flash kernel is exactly what we need in first place Personally I would change splash screen and try to get rid of Red warning text on every boot!
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Yeah! That red text is very irritating.
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didnt worked :crying:
You're rooted and have the bootloader unlocked?
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